FELD you failed the fans and racers @ Motofest

peelout wrote:

how often would you say you check the torque on your sprocket bolts? also, if you had to torque down to 40psi, but only had a...

how often would you say you check the torque on your sprocket bolts?

also, if you had to torque down to 40psi, but only had a wrench that did a max of 20psi, do you torque it at 20psi twice?

rrjr wrote:

You say the SX riders who [i] are lower guys fighting to make the night show in qualifying [/i]are the one who would be most hurt...

You say the SX riders who are lower guys fighting to make the night show in qualifying are the one who would be most hurt by allowing the AX riders to race SX. This because of the "guy next to you has already thrown down 100 laps on it." advantage.

If they were allowed to race both AX and SX then those disadvantaged riders who are fighting to make the night show in SX could mitigate that advantage by racing the AX event and getting those extra 100 laps.

JustMX wrote:

I think some.of you haven't "aledgidley" ever read an ama rule.book for pro racing

chasestevenson599 wrote:

I'm a full time Mechanical Engineering student at the University of Iowa. Safe to say there is no riding during the week. Although, the way you...

I'm a full time Mechanical Engineering student at the University of Iowa. Safe to say there is no riding during the week. Although, the way you stated it does sound quite dreamy!

rrjr wrote:

You say the SX riders who [i] are lower guys fighting to make the night show in qualifying [/i]are the one who would be most hurt...

You say the SX riders who are lower guys fighting to make the night show in qualifying are the one who would be most hurt by allowing the AX riders to race SX. This because of the "guy next to you has already thrown down 100 laps on it." advantage.

If they were allowed to race both AX and SX then those disadvantaged riders who are fighting to make the night show in SX could mitigate that advantage by racing the AX event and getting those extra 100 laps.

akillerwombat wrote:

But then it becomes an issue with contracts and risk vs reward. It would be less risky for the AX guys to run their event Friday...

But then it becomes an issue with contracts and risk vs reward. It would be less risky for the AX guys to run their event Friday and then try to qualify for the SX than for the SX guys to run a race in a series they are not participating in the day before their actual points based event.

I'd love to see them use Friday morning to run all of the qualifying for both SX / AX and turn Saturday qualifying into a few practice sessions / dash for cash fun races with no effects on points. People who qualified (and raced) AX would have for sure have more track time going into Saturday but they would of had to at least qualified with people who were seeing the track for the first time as well.

Jarid332 wrote:

What the fans really wanna see is Cole Seely

peelout wrote:

how often would you say you check the torque on your sprocket bolts? also, if you had to torque down to 40psi, but only had a...

how often would you say you check the torque on your sprocket bolts?

also, if you had to torque down to 40psi, but only had a wrench that did a max of 20psi, do you torque it at 20psi twice?

enketchum wrote:

I still want to see Ricky Carmichael's Arena Cross Championship trophy

zehn wrote:

Uh, isn't that an AMA rule?

C_Class_Hero wrote:

No, there's no rule against it in the rulebook for 2017.

Highsider wrote:

Did I miss a mention that the AX track only uses two lanes of the SX layout? Racing Friday night AX is not really giving an...

Did I miss a mention that the AX track only uses two lanes of the SX layout?

Racing Friday night AX is not really giving an unfair advantage, IMO.

seth505 wrote:

How is it any different than a race like Southwick? That track is tricky to master, the locals always do really well compared to normal samplings...

How is it any different than a race like Southwick? That track is tricky to master, the locals always do really well compared to normal samplings because they ride it all year long/since amateurs. The best still rise to the top when it comes to final motos.

akillerwombat wrote:

Difference is Southwick is there all year ([i]like almost all nationals are[/i]) and anyone can go ride it at anytime. SX tracks are built the week...

Difference is Southwick is there all year (like almost all nationals are) and anyone can go ride it at anytime. SX tracks are built the week they are raced and everyone racing them is seeing them for the first time that week(end).

I understand that the top 5 guys get a bit of an unfair advantage being able to ride press day but as you stated the fact of the matter is they would still be the top 5 guys dominating without getting that extra few minutes the day before as proven when Villo sat out of practice and shit when he was sick but still pulled off a decent main... but, we're a sport, and our sport needs press so we parade the top guys out the day before to increase awareness of what's going on the following day. Where it undeniably hurts is the lower guys fighting to make the night show in qualifying. If you are one of those guys on the bubble and someone of a similar skill level has a whole day to ride / race the track before you do he has a huge advantage over you of making the night show. That is undeniable. You line up to qualify on a track that you haven't ridden once and the guy next to you has already thrown down 100 laps on it... not quite a level playing field.

Do I like it? No. I'd love to see the AX guys mix it up with the SX guys, but just like how no one is stopping the SX guys from racing AX the day before and skipping the SX race no one is stopping the AX guys from skipping the AX qualifying / racing and trying to make the SX night show.

mattyhamz2 wrote:

I could be wrong, but this seems like more of an AMA/FIM decision than a FELD decision. I don't like FELD either, but I don't see...

I could be wrong, but this seems like more of an AMA/FIM decision than a FELD decision. I don't like FELD either, but I don't see them having much to do with this decision

GangGreen wrote:

The 2017 AMA Supercross Rule book says it's permitted. But, there are Supplemental Rules shown above, that might be why Atlanta doesn't permit racing both events...

The 2017 AMA Supercross Rule book says it's permitted. But, there are Supplemental Rules shown above, that might be why Atlanta doesn't permit racing both events. The Supplemental Rules are also why 250cc two strokes cannot race the 250cc Class in Professional Competition.

zehn wrote:

Uh, isn't that an AMA rule?

C_Class_Hero wrote:

No, there's no rule against it in the rulebook for 2017.

GuyB wrote:

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akillerwombat wrote:

Seems pretty straight forward to me, "you can only ride the track on press day".

731chopper wrote:

Rules can easily be changed. Are you the person that called the AMA whining?

akillerwombat wrote:

Classic vital... [b]Vital:[/b] "There is no rule saying they can't race the night before!! Fucking Feld. Fucking criminals. Blah blah." (GuyB posts the rule saying they...

Classic vital...

Vital: "There is no rule saying they can't race the night before!! Fucking Feld. Fucking criminals. Blah blah."
(GuyB posts the rule saying they can't)
Vital: "Well rules can change."

Yeah, the can change but those em the rules until they do change. And yeah sure, if it helps you sleep at night, I'm the team manager that called the AMA to whine. I'm also the tooth fairy, JLaw's vanished career, and the fat guy in jersey hacking the DNC.

731chopper wrote:

I never said there was no rule. Try again buddy.

Ted722 wrote:

I know, non-moto, but can Kyle Busch still run Trucks, Xfinity, and Monster Energy NASCAR Cup in the same weekend?

akillerwombat wrote:

That's why I didn't say "731chopper" and I used "vital", buddy.