Aldon promoting junk

2/14/2017 1:59pm
Funyun wrote:
Its funny people on a motocross forum are ripping on someone in this industry advertising products when MX is literally one of the worst sports out...
Its funny people on a motocross forum are ripping on someone in this industry advertising products when MX is literally one of the worst sports out there in terms of athletes and people advertising products. You guys are acting like this is something new when after every race you watch all these riders spout off 40 different company names and pretend to drink energy drinks on the podium. I like how people will watch that bs every weekend but draw the line on aldon promoting this stuff. Its pretty comical
Most sports are the same, golf, shooting, fishing......if people are willing to buy the product good luck to them. I wonder how many people like myself hit the mute/turn off as soon as the "I'd like to thank..." line comes out.
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2/14/2017 2:07pm
Funyun wrote:
Its funny people on a motocross forum are ripping on someone in this industry advertising products when MX is literally one of the worst sports out...
Its funny people on a motocross forum are ripping on someone in this industry advertising products when MX is literally one of the worst sports out there in terms of athletes and people advertising products. You guys are acting like this is something new when after every race you watch all these riders spout off 40 different company names and pretend to drink energy drinks on the podium. I like how people will watch that bs every weekend but draw the line on aldon promoting this stuff. Its pretty comical
Jenny should just cut the mic when the memorex tape starts. It is so cringe when these guys start thanking their girlfriends tit doctor, their podiatrist, the nail lady, their massage therapist/rub and tug. Its cheesy as hell.
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2/14/2017 2:17pm
Funyun wrote:
Its funny people on a motocross forum are ripping on someone in this industry advertising products when MX is literally one of the worst sports out...
Its funny people on a motocross forum are ripping on someone in this industry advertising products when MX is literally one of the worst sports out there in terms of athletes and people advertising products. You guys are acting like this is something new when after every race you watch all these riders spout off 40 different company names and pretend to drink energy drinks on the podium. I like how people will watch that bs every weekend but draw the line on aldon promoting this stuff. Its pretty comical
Skidaddle wrote:
Jenny should just cut the mic when the memorex tape starts. It is so cringe when these guys start thanking their girlfriends tit doctor, their podiatrist...
Jenny should just cut the mic when the memorex tape starts. It is so cringe when these guys start thanking their girlfriends tit doctor, their podiatrist, the nail lady, their massage therapist/rub and tug. Its cheesy as hell.
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Agreed! I fast forward thru that junk.
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2/14/2017 2:18pm
F.B wrote:
Baker keys:

1. Avoid sugar
2. Drink Monavie

https://youtu.be/sL1n0jYyuq8
Skidaddle wrote:
Its a know fact that "Proprietary Blends and Complexes" mean very little of anything. Thats how they dont have to list an actual amount. AND this...
Its a know fact that "Proprietary Blends and Complexes" mean very little of anything.

Thats how they dont have to list an actual amount. AND this stuff for a 12 OZ Not a 2 ounce shot would have 36 grams of sugar. Thats a LOT.



Only 110$ for 4 bottles of fruit juice though!

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2/14/2017 2:22pm
Fitness marketing is total and complete bullsh*t 99% of the time, and this is no different. In a previous life I was a personal trainer for both a local gym and later a large, corporate fitness facility. You wouldn't believe some of the whoppers I've heard "trainers" spout to potential clients if they thought it would make them a quick buck. One of the reasons I got out of that line of work was that making a living in the fitness industry was more about hawking crap products and hard sales than it was about improving people's health and well-being. The more of a sleazeball salesman you were, the more money you made for yourself and the facility. I get this mentality when we're talking about used cars and widgets, but when it comes to peoples' health I thought it was ridiculous.

Ok, end of rant.
2/14/2017 2:30pm
kkawboy14 wrote:
We don't know how and why gravity works either and I don't know, is it "verifiable "?
Actually we do know a lot about gravity. We do know a lot about arm pump too and we know a lot about transdermal absorption as well as we do about the placebo effect. It's just up to you to implement these things. It isn't hard to.
2/14/2017 6:05pm
kkawboy14 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/02/14/176395/s1200_IMG_3032.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/02/14/176396/s1200_IMG_3033.jpg[/img]




It looks like that proves my point and disproves your theory.

Literally soaking in a bath of salts allows your skin to absorb "some" salt compounds. Your second search says ionic molecules like salt do not easily pass through cell membranes and mostly passes through damages in skin like cuts. Nicely done.

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kkawboy14 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/02/14/176395/s1200_IMG_3032.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/02/14/176396/s1200_IMG_3033.jpg[/img]




It looks like that proves my point and disproves your theory. Literally soaking in a bath of salts allows your skin to absorb "some" salt compounds...
It looks like that proves my point and disproves your theory.

Literally soaking in a bath of salts allows your skin to absorb "some" salt compounds. Your second search says ionic molecules like salt do not easily pass through cell membranes and mostly passes through damages in skin like cuts. Nicely done.

Your welcome but it actually disproves your idea that it can't!
2/15/2017 6:18am
kkawboy14 wrote:
Your welcome but it actually disproves your idea that it can't!
You are right of course. Congratulations, hopefully you don't get bored of winning so much.
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2/15/2017 7:35am
Leave Aldon alone......idiot.
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2/15/2017 8:03am
I bought Cytomax back in the day and I swore it helped my arm pump. McGrath supported it so I just had to use it.
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2/15/2017 9:43am
kkawboy14 wrote:
Your welcome but it actually disproves your idea that it can't!
You are right of course. Congratulations, hopefully you don't get bored of winning so much.
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2/15/2017 11:22am Edited Date/Time 2/15/2017 11:23am
Skidaddle wrote:
I know how to make home brew transdermal compounds. However unless you really want to stink its not possible with something like this. Here is a...
I know how to make home brew transdermal compounds.
However unless you really want to stink its not possible with something like this.

Here is a good rule of thumb. If it works, it's illegal.
If it's legal, you need a prescription.

If it's legal without a script, and works, you can only buy it for your tyrannosaurus monkey mouse or your saber toothed fish frog.
It will also be labeled not for human use, research purposes only. Meaning your test animal is fair game.

All this homeopathic, spray ons, roll ons, all that shit = doesn't do shit.

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The fish kinda looks like you! Wink
2/15/2017 11:30am
Aldon is the muscle tech of the motocross world. Fancy packaging is all it takes to sell useless shit to masses of stupid people.
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2/15/2017 12:15pm
jeffro503 wrote:
I eat pretty clean , and for my age I have a pretty intense workout program. One of my main issues is my lungs. I was...
I eat pretty clean , and for my age I have a pretty intense workout program. One of my main issues is my lungs. I was born with Asthma and also have some scar tissue built up on my left lung. The thing is , not everyone's forearms are built the same. The fascia tissue on my arms have always been really tight. A lot of former motocross guys use to have surgery done on their forearms for the same reason. I have to stretch the hell out of them before and after my rides. I can build my cardio and I'm fine every where else, except for my arm pump. Riding more helps , but I don't get to ride as much as I'd like too.
Jeffro...I had really bad armpump in my right arm, like two or three laps and I was done.

I ended up having carpal tunnel surgery and a Fascia release done. Night and day. Im talking a huge improvement.

My problem was the restriction the carpal tunnel placed on my nerves and it ended up causing a restriction on the amount of blood flow to and from my forearm. I had a really good doctor and everything was done with lathroscopic (sp?) and minimally invasive.

I was back to riding in a month with very small amount of pain. Two months later I was perfect.
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2/15/2017 12:59pm Edited Date/Time 2/15/2017 1:03pm
Aldon is the muscle tech of the motocross world. Fancy packaging is all it takes to sell useless shit to masses of stupid people.
Well, not true. Some of their stuff has stuff that works, and rumor was some stuff was spiked with some real goodies.

Like Hot Stuff back in the day and Ultimate Orange. That's how they got it to work with such a big following, or so the rumors go.

But yah, for the most part, it's all garbage and real food is king.
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2/15/2017 4:30pm
APLMAN99 wrote:
I have no idea what the forearm spray actually is, but I sort of assumed that it had some DMSO in it, which would make it...
I have no idea what the forearm spray actually is, but I sort of assumed that it had some DMSO in it, which would make it fairly absorbable and might be just enough of an analgesic to make mild forearm pump not be nearly as noticeable for some riders.

Or it might simply be water........
Technically it is not possible to absorb something that deep. Even if it would.... you couldn't fix armpump with something analgesic. What I don't like is...
Technically it is not possible to absorb something that deep. Even if it would.... you couldn't fix armpump with something analgesic.

What I don't like is that somebody can come up to flat out lie to people's faces and the public opinion about that is like "it's business, it's smart, stupid is to believe, don't buy it if you don't believe it, decide by yourself if it is possible..." Ugh! Smile
I'm not a DMSO user, nor that knowledgeable about it much.

My post was simply pointing out a possibility that the analgesic effect could be enough that the average rider could reduce pain enough to "ride through" arm pump, not that DMSO (or any topical treatment could "cure" it.

When I rode dirt bikes more, I wasn't really a sufferer of arm pump, but there were times I would start to feel a little bit of pain in my forearms. Never enough to make me stop riding or unable to hold on or anything. Something like a topical analgesic would probably seem very effective on a guy like me, probably not on a fast pro prone to arm pump.

Again, I've never really been a user of DMSO outside from a handful of times many, many years ago but anecdotally I knew of a couple of guys who had incredible knee pain while cycling who seemed to be able to pedal like TdF riders after applying some DMSO. I could see the possibility of it taking away some forearm pain on some riders.
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I don't think the 4arm strong stuff is going to cure all the worlds arm pump, but I believe some riders benefit from it. The spray...
I don't think the 4arm strong stuff is going to cure all the worlds arm pump, but I believe some riders benefit from it. The spray is just ridiculous and a total hoax. I hate that they sell the arm thing like it's revolutionary technology but you could probably make something to do the same thing with things in your garage lol. Although I'm not sure I can sit here and tell you that if someone wrote me a big check to endorse their product that I wouldn't take it, can't fault the guy for wanting to make money.
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I remember in an old 4arm strong thread from a while ago someone actually went away and made their own home made device that looked exactly...
I remember in an old 4arm strong thread from a while ago someone actually went away and made their own home made device that looked exactly the same with a few bits he found laying around. Though i don't think it was his intentions he caught a bit of shit for posting it as it pretty much showed how easy it was to recreate.
I made one myself It does help with grip strength for sure and maybe a little with arm pump . Cost me about 10 bucks to make
2/16/2017 12:47pm
APLMAN99 wrote:
I'm not a DMSO user, nor that knowledgeable about it much. My post was simply pointing out a possibility that the analgesic effect could be enough...
I'm not a DMSO user, nor that knowledgeable about it much.

My post was simply pointing out a possibility that the analgesic effect could be enough that the average rider could reduce pain enough to "ride through" arm pump, not that DMSO (or any topical treatment could "cure" it.

When I rode dirt bikes more, I wasn't really a sufferer of arm pump, but there were times I would start to feel a little bit of pain in my forearms. Never enough to make me stop riding or unable to hold on or anything. Something like a topical analgesic would probably seem very effective on a guy like me, probably not on a fast pro prone to arm pump.

Again, I've never really been a user of DMSO outside from a handful of times many, many years ago but anecdotally I knew of a couple of guys who had incredible knee pain while cycling who seemed to be able to pedal like TdF riders after applying some DMSO. I could see the possibility of it taking away some forearm pain on some riders.
I see where you coming from. From what I understand, armpump originates from a decreased intrafascial bloodflow which leads to muscle malfunction. The pain comes into being from the lack of oxygen deep into the muscle, not from an overstretch of the fascia. In no way can something you put on your skin penetrate the deep muscle fascia to take effect there.

DMSO might work when it comes to a black mark (and that's what a scientific study found as far as I know) but I highly doubt that it can take any pain from an ostheoarthritic knee, let alone a hypoxic muscle.

Basically I don't have a problem with people selling nonsense pills and stuff. People like it, they just want to do something against an issue, they want to take care and if they think it's help, it is help for real. But when someone comes up to lead somebody to believe something for the simple reason to squeeze money out of them, I can't resist to call him a crook.
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2/16/2017 2:12pm
Whats worse is what he charges to ride his track.

You don't hire a trainer for manfriend and training advice. If you are, you are paying a trainer for the wrong reasons.

Ask yourself why these fitness bimbos have "Trainers"



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2/16/2017 2:36pm
Skidaddle wrote:
Whats worse is what he charges to ride his track. You don't hire a trainer for manfriend and training advice. If you are, you are paying...
Whats worse is what he charges to ride his track.

You don't hire a trainer for manfriend and training advice. If you are, you are paying a trainer for the wrong reasons.

Ask yourself why these fitness bimbos have "Trainers"



You really don't like the guy do you?


The guys legend goes all the way back to what he did for RC. He helped Dungey become what he was last year, turbo diesel instead of diesel.

If someone wants to pay the guy, why do we care so much? They obviously see value in it. Roczen I guarantee was still using the stuff he learned and James Stewart still uses stuff RC taught him 20 years ago.
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2/16/2017 2:42pm
Funyun wrote:
Its funny people on a motocross forum are ripping on someone in this industry advertising products when MX is literally one of the worst sports out...
Its funny people on a motocross forum are ripping on someone in this industry advertising products when MX is literally one of the worst sports out there in terms of athletes and people advertising products. You guys are acting like this is something new when after every race you watch all these riders spout off 40 different company names and pretend to drink energy drinks on the podium. I like how people will watch that bs every weekend but draw the line on aldon promoting this stuff. Its pretty comical
Combined with the funny-fact that most of'em have "Repli-Racers" with all the graphics and bling that thier favorite hero runs; yet, they certainly don't run thier hero's training mantra nor his training equipment.

Funyun, we need to drink one of my hero's beers, a Stella, sometime.
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2/16/2017 2:46pm
Skidaddle wrote:
Whats worse is what he charges to ride his track. You don't hire a trainer for manfriend and training advice. If you are, you are paying...
Whats worse is what he charges to ride his track.

You don't hire a trainer for manfriend and training advice. If you are, you are paying a trainer for the wrong reasons.

Ask yourself why these fitness bimbos have "Trainers"



Explain this for me; because, everyone that I know that "rides his track" are at the top of the game and they pay him to keep them there...

Dungey
Musquin
Anderson
ZachO
Etc., etc., etc. ...

So, what is the price of admission and what do you think it's worth?
(Bye the way, Marvin made bank for last week's win. As did Jason for 3rd. But, I digress...)
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2/16/2017 8:56pm
Rumor has it that a couple of top 10 Snocross riders are contracting Baker for their programs in 2017-18. Sounds like they are looking to step up to the next level......
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2/16/2017 9:26pm
Not many fans of the history of commerce in this place, I see.
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2/16/2017 10:51pm
All those guys were always fast. It's a skill sport. No amount of conditioning is going to make a slow guy fast. It never has before.

I can tell you this much. If I was any of those dudes, no way would I let Miss Supercross be in better shape than me.

Maybe Roczen didn't think he was getting much for 250K? Afterall that's what they said the cost was on Pulp.
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2/23/2017 8:09pm
F.B wrote:
Baker keys:

1. Avoid sugar
2. Drink Monavie

https://youtu.be/sL1n0jYyuq8
Who the hell sleeps 9 hours a night?
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Who the hell think James was drinking Monavie to help with the recovery of his blown ACL?

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