Helmets

My current Fox helmet is coming up for renewing soon and I'm thinking of spending a little more to get something good. What would you lot say offers the best protection?
Cheers guys
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1/31/2017 5:55am
gpnewhouse wrote:
My current Fox helmet is coming up for renewing soon and I'm thinking of spending a little more to get something good. What would you lot...
My current Fox helmet is coming up for renewing soon and I'm thinking of spending a little more to get something good. What would you lot say offers the best protection?
Cheers guys
Fox v3, Bell moto flex, Troy Lee se4 , and 6D.
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1/31/2017 6:00am
If you like fox just switch to V3 with MIPS!
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1/31/2017 6:03am
General rule of thumb is to not cheap out. So you are on the right track. I strongly suggest going around and trying on a variety of different brands. Find the one that fits you like a glove so to speak.Fit is just as important than which brand it is. Top of my list for safety is Shoei,(keep in mind they are coming out with a new helmet this spring) Troy Lee Designs (SE3/SE4) Bell (Moto9), Arai and 6D. Hope this helps some.
1/31/2017 6:34am
Do yourself a favor, spend the money and get something with mips. I prefer Bell but you can go through bto sports and use the pulpmx code to save some cash

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You can get the Fly F2 Carbon MIPS right now for $179, originally $399. Nice helmets that I think are very similar to the Fox V3 with MIPS. Someone said they are made by the same company. Roczen has also said his Fox helmet protected him in his crash so well he didn't get a concussion.
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1/31/2017 7:29am Edited Date/Time 1/31/2017 7:34am
For me the Bell moto 9 flex is the best helmet on market. Top of the line safety features and the most comfortable helmet that i have ever had and tried(i have tried every single high end helmet and most mid end helmets).

There are 2 brands/models that i haven't tried. Fly F2 and the new Leatt helmet.
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Have them put your name and number on it





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1/31/2017 7:41am
JB426 wrote:
You can get the Fly F2 Carbon MIPS right now for $179, originally $399. Nice helmets that I think are very similar to the Fox V3...
You can get the Fly F2 Carbon MIPS right now for $179, originally $399. Nice helmets that I think are very similar to the Fox V3 with MIPS. Someone said they are made by the same company. Roczen has also said his Fox helmet protected him in his crash so well he didn't get a concussion.
Bell, Fly, Fox, TLD and 6D are made by the same company.


But i really want to put one thing clear. The company that makes all these helmets can make a shit helmet that has a MSRP of 100 bucks or a high end helmet for 800 bucks. 2 different brands helmets are not the same only because they are made in the same factory.

I have 2 Bell Moto 9 Flex helmets and one 6D helmet that come from the same factory in China and have the same pricepoint. Are they the same helmets? No, the Bell is a better made helmet in my opinion and at least feels more qualitative.
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1/31/2017 7:41am
I'd have to agree with @turbojez and suggest getting another Fox helmet. It's a known quantity, you know if fits your head, and it's safe. I'm a Bell guy myself but if a helmet doesn't fit your head correctly, you won't enjoy wearing it and you'll most likely be looking for a new lid.

All these opinions are based on everyone's personal fit preference. If you have a brand of helmet you know fits your head well...the hard part is over. Now find a color scheme you like and pay the man. haha
1/31/2017 7:51am
Has there been a lot of research on MIPS?
from what I can tell its a thin smooth sheet of plastic which simply lets the liner rotate a little upon impact.

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Has there been a lot of research on MIPS? from what I can tell its a thin smooth sheet of plastic which simply lets the liner...
Has there been a lot of research on MIPS?
from what I can tell its a thin smooth sheet of plastic which simply lets the liner rotate a little upon impact.

If the Pros are wearing it, it works! They are gonna hit the ground a lot harder than us and whatever they are wearing is trust worthy IMHO.
So all the stuff works!
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I was wearing a Bell Moto 8 at the time of my tragic accident. I had multiple injuries in that crash and thankfully a head injury wasn't one of them.

I say go with Bell. They've only gotten better since the Moto 9 came out.

There's obviously other good helmets out on the market and truthfully I don't think you can go wrong with any of the higher end helmets.

Pick one that best fits your head, spend the money and don't be cheap.
1/31/2017 8:21am
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I was wearing a Bell Moto 8 at the time of my tragic accident. I had multiple injuries in that crash and thankfully a head injury...
I was wearing a Bell Moto 8 at the time of my tragic accident. I had multiple injuries in that crash and thankfully a head injury wasn't one of them.

I say go with Bell. They've only gotten better since the Moto 9 came out.

There's obviously other good helmets out on the market and truthfully I don't think you can go wrong with any of the higher end helmets.

Pick one that best fits your head, spend the money and don't be cheap.
I think that is fair advice from MAV.

I bought a 6D when they first came out. I like it.

I saw a brand new Fox helmet with MIPS the other day at the track and really liked it. It looked good, felt good, and seemed to have a high level of quality. Quality is what I do for a living, so anything I pick up it gets scrutinized by my Mk. 2, Mod 3 QA eyeballs. Smile
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1/31/2017 8:29am
I have a Bell Moto9 Flexx, TLD SE4 comp, and a Fox V3 i switch between right now and iv got to say the Bell is the most comfortable and the TLD and Fox have a similar feel due to the mips. But if youve got the cash go with a Moto9 Flexx
1/31/2017 8:37am
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My current Fox helmet is coming up for renewing soon and I'm thinking of spending a little more to get something good. What would you lot...
My current Fox helmet is coming up for renewing soon and I'm thinking of spending a little more to get something good. What would you lot say offers the best protection?
Cheers guys
Just go with any brands' top of the line helmet. Don't fall for the MIPS meme.

I personally wear Shoei.
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1/31/2017 8:43am
Motofinne wrote:
Bell, Fly, Fox, TLD and 6D are made by the same company. But i really want to put one thing clear. The company that makes all...
Bell, Fly, Fox, TLD and 6D are made by the same company.


But i really want to put one thing clear. The company that makes all these helmets can make a shit helmet that has a MSRP of 100 bucks or a high end helmet for 800 bucks. 2 different brands helmets are not the same only because they are made in the same factory.

I have 2 Bell Moto 9 Flex helmets and one 6D helmet that come from the same factory in China and have the same pricepoint. Are they the same helmets? No, the Bell is a better made helmet in my opinion and at least feels more qualitative.
Which factory in China made both your Bell and 6D? I'm really curious
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1/31/2017 9:16am
Add to the list Arai, AGV, Just1, Suomy, Leatt.
Less marketing but good products too
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1/31/2017 9:17am
I have 2 Bell Moto 9 Flex helmets. Love them. Best helmets I've ever owned.

I can't really comment on any of the other high end helmets as I haven't owned any of them other than the Bell. I would really look at the TLD SE4 composite for the price tho.
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1/31/2017 9:22am Edited Date/Time 1/31/2017 9:28am
Just like just about every other product on the MX market they all seem the same. If the helmets are different safety wise, the manufacturers are not giving us a good explanation of why. My understanding of what the helmet does is that there's a dense foam skeleton between the inner face pads and the plastic/fiberglass/etc outside shell and that foam layer does all the work. I just don't know if there's differences in foam types or what not. Nobody tells us.

Also if you wanna go see where the helmets are made, just go to alibaba.com and type motocross helmet. Or anything else. I just had a custom jersey made in china for $20. Picked all the materials and shit I wanted and uploaded my design and everything. Can do anything in China for fucking cheap.
1/31/2017 10:40am
p0wn wrote:
Just like just about every other product on the MX market they all seem the same. If the helmets are different safety wise, the manufacturers are...
Just like just about every other product on the MX market they all seem the same. If the helmets are different safety wise, the manufacturers are not giving us a good explanation of why. My understanding of what the helmet does is that there's a dense foam skeleton between the inner face pads and the plastic/fiberglass/etc outside shell and that foam layer does all the work. I just don't know if there's differences in foam types or what not. Nobody tells us.

Also if you wanna go see where the helmets are made, just go to alibaba.com and type motocross helmet. Or anything else. I just had a custom jersey made in china for $20. Picked all the materials and shit I wanted and uploaded my design and everything. Can do anything in China for fucking cheap.
Give 6D a call. They're great at explaining their technology and what makes their helmet very different.
1/31/2017 10:46am
gpnewhouse wrote:
My current Fox helmet is coming up for renewing soon and I'm thinking of spending a little more to get something good. What would you lot...
My current Fox helmet is coming up for renewing soon and I'm thinking of spending a little more to get something good. What would you lot say offers the best protection?
Cheers guys
Long time Shoei rider, switched to 6D about 3-4 years ago because I believed in the new technology they had to offer. Seems to me for years the helmet manufacturers lead with cool new paint schemes and bling. Safety was a 2nd or 3rd priority/concern until 6D came out leading with safety. Now all the major players are introducing new/better tech..we all win from that.

There is plenty of data to support the 6D tech. Give them a call or check out the website.
Zach Bell was the probably first high profile pro that "tested" the 6D in his huge crash, 2013.

I've personally had two significant crashes wearing a 6D. Of course i'll never know if another helmet would have protected me more or less, but I believe Frank at REM, who witnessed my crash coming down Mt. St. Helens at Glen Helen when he said "that 6D helmet probably just saved your life."

Anyway, good luck! It's the most important piece of gear!

Doug
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1/31/2017 10:53am
Give 6D a call. They're great at explaining their technology and what makes their helmet very different.
I don't call my girlfriend, or anybody else for that matter. I don't call people. Can't expect the consumer to be calling up the manufacturers

What we need is a real unbiased source of consumer product reviews. All the magazines and basically everyone in this industry is all about advertising and shit. There's so much opinion and not a lot of fact. All this marketing bullshit to confuse everyone into just buying what looks cool.

Let's put some accelerometers into a few helmets and see what the difference in impact is. I highly doubt it's any different in any helmet model. 6d's suspension system just looks like a gimmick to me. What could it possibly help? When crash you have about 1" of room between your head and the ground. That's all the room you get to cushion that fall. The foam doesn't move, if anything it will dent under a lot of pressure and that's what will save you. But that's the same with any helmet you buy.

I think it's mostly bullshit. Just because you're paying more doesn't mean you're getting more. In the safety department at least. They've all got to pass the government ratings and beyond that it's probably all about aesthetic and comfort.
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1/31/2017 11:08am
Don't buy one that's made in China....
1/31/2017 11:11am
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I don't call my girlfriend, or anybody else for that matter. I don't call people. Can't expect the consumer to be calling up the manufacturers What...
I don't call my girlfriend, or anybody else for that matter. I don't call people. Can't expect the consumer to be calling up the manufacturers

What we need is a real unbiased source of consumer product reviews. All the magazines and basically everyone in this industry is all about advertising and shit. There's so much opinion and not a lot of fact. All this marketing bullshit to confuse everyone into just buying what looks cool.

Let's put some accelerometers into a few helmets and see what the difference in impact is. I highly doubt it's any different in any helmet model. 6d's suspension system just looks like a gimmick to me. What could it possibly help? When crash you have about 1" of room between your head and the ground. That's all the room you get to cushion that fall. The foam doesn't move, if anything it will dent under a lot of pressure and that's what will save you. But that's the same with any helmet you buy.

I think it's mostly bullshit. Just because you're paying more doesn't mean you're getting more. In the safety department at least. They've all got to pass the government ratings and beyond that it's probably all about aesthetic and comfort.
The suggestion to call was to seek information about the technology on a product that is most important to your safety. 6D has a ton of scientific data to support their safety claims and much of it is unbiased, using the same testing methods as the other brands with vastly better results. Have you been to their website? Also, a 6D helmet search on YouTube provides quite a bit of information. Whether you believe the data is your choice but it's out there and available for you to make an educated decision. I'm like you, i don't like to drink the Koolaid, but would rather make my own decision.

I know what you're saying, we're all fed a lot of BS in advertising with products that are crap and made in China. It's difficult to sort through the nonsense and the legit stuff.

I've checked 6Ds box, my opinion is it's the safest helmet money can buy so I like to share because I do think it would help you, others, anyone who wears it.

Doug
1/31/2017 11:14am
Motofinne wrote:
Bell, Fly, Fox, TLD and 6D are made by the same company. But i really want to put one thing clear. The company that makes all...
Bell, Fly, Fox, TLD and 6D are made by the same company.


But i really want to put one thing clear. The company that makes all these helmets can make a shit helmet that has a MSRP of 100 bucks or a high end helmet for 800 bucks. 2 different brands helmets are not the same only because they are made in the same factory.

I have 2 Bell Moto 9 Flex helmets and one 6D helmet that come from the same factory in China and have the same pricepoint. Are they the same helmets? No, the Bell is a better made helmet in my opinion and at least feels more qualitative.
ron727 wrote:
Which factory in China made both your Bell and 6D? I'm really curious
It's KBC I believe. Could be wrong.
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1/31/2017 2:02pm
it is not by who they are manufactured that is critical. it is who designed and constructed it.

you dont call iphone chinese do you? just because it is manufactured in china by foxconn. foxconn and other chinese manufactures do contract manufacturing for maybe 20-30 different us and european brands at the same time.

they do from 50 usd mobile phones to iphones 800 usd.

helmet is the same thing.
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1/31/2017 3:43pm
My current fav:


The ventilation alone is worth it.
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1/31/2017 3:53pm
I've got a Scorpion VX34 that is insanely comfortable, it fits like my Shoei and honestly i wear it way more than my Arai. I also have a Fly F2 Carbon that i really like but it just doesn't fit as comfortable as my Scorpion. Best thing is my Scorpion was $180 retail and is DOT/ECE certified.
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1/31/2017 4:02pm
Arai or Shoei. Made in Japan, unlike the rest that are made in China.

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