100% tafiff on Euro Dirt Bikes is insane

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Edited Date/Time 8/11/2018 8:01am
From Cycle News

In move that has left many people scratching their heads, the Office of United States Trade Representative has requested comments on a December 28 regulation that would impose a tariff of 100 percent or higher on European motorcycles imported into the U.S. between 51cc and 500cc—as part of the European Union’s measures concerning meat and meat products in the United States!

Fancy paying twice the price for your next KTM? Yeah, we didn’t think so, either.
The American Motorcycle Association (AMA) has recently issued a press release opposing the move that would have a serious effect on small- to medium-sized business owners who sell the machines, resulting in the loss of many American jobs across a range of industries.

“The American Motorcyclist Association opposes the proposed tariff, because trade disputes residing within the boundaries of the agricultural industry should not be solved with trade sanctions levied against non-agricultural products.”

The proposed tariffs, the first on motorcycles 50-250cc and the second on motorcycles 250-500cc, is suspiciously hidden at the bottom of a giant list of products—not just animal meat for human consumption—that are being proposed for increased import duties.

Should the move to impose the tariff indeed be granted, it would affect Aprilia, Beta, BMW, Ducati, Fantic, Gas Gas, Husqvarna, KTM, Montesa, Piaggio, Scorpa, Sherco, TM and Vespa. The move would affect not just off-road vehicle sales, both competition and non-competition, but also scooter and streetbike sales—an area that is rather far from what could be classified as agricultural.

“Should the availability of product be hindered through unjustified trade sanctions on European-produced motorcycles, dealerships may close, leaving countless Americans without jobs,” the AMA release continues. “The negative effects of the proposed trade sanctions will not only harm the motorcycle sales industry, but will spread through the aftermarket equipment sector, recreation equipment sales, the sports entertainment industry and further down the line.

Motorcycles should not be mixed up in the U.S.’s beef trade dispute with the European Union.

Cyclenews.com/insane-tariff-levied-motorcycles-buried-euro-u-s-beef-hormone-trade-dispute/

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JW381
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1/18/2017 2:51pm
The same thing was proposed back around 08. Election years, hmm.
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1/18/2017 3:33pm
C'mon...everybody knows the most efficient way to defeat BEEF is with a MOTORCYCLE......yo.
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1/18/2017 4:02pm
I think you already started a thread about this topic.........
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1/18/2017 4:02pm
WHERES THE BEEF??

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colorado2day
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1/18/2017 4:08pm
APLMAN99 wrote:
I think you already started a thread about this topic.........
Alpman,
Did you write a letter ?
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1/18/2017 5:14pm
Its only asking for comments, doesn't sound set-in-stone..so how about "Are you f'ing nuts?", "no way jose", "what are you smokin?"...I'm sure this will change their mind.
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1/18/2017 5:44pm
APLMAN99 wrote:
I think you already started a thread about this topic.........
He did.

I'm guessing the "King of Cut & Paste" forgot about the other one.



disclaimer~ the use of "King of Cut & Paste" is not intended as disrespect towards the OP but simply a way of stating the obvious.
1/18/2017 6:34pm
Why does the OP say you'd pay twice the price for a KTM when they just want to double the tariff? Seems to me like it might add a few hundred dollars to the price, not thousands.
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1/18/2017 6:35pm
I blame Trump
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1/18/2017 6:39pm
I still think a Cobra 250 two stroke would be bad ass. I mean, that shit would stank bitches!
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1/18/2017 6:50pm Edited Date/Time 1/18/2017 6:53pm
Why does the OP say you'd pay twice the price for a KTM when they just want to double the tariff? Seems to me like it...
Why does the OP say you'd pay twice the price for a KTM when they just want to double the tariff? Seems to me like it might add a few hundred dollars to the price, not thousands.
Because the proposed tarriff is for up to 100%. That means a $10,000 european bike will cost $20,000 if this shit passes.

Take 2 minutes amd fill out the ama form oposing the tax.

https://cqrcengage.com/amacycle/app/write-a-letter?2&engagementId=27701…
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1/18/2017 6:52pm
kiwifan wrote:
I blame Trump
*obama
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1/18/2017 7:00pm
At least he's letting us know about it, the only time the AMA contacts me is when my membership is going to run out. Maybe that's why I can't ride where I could in the 60's.
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1/18/2017 7:11pm
kiwifan wrote:
I blame Trump
BobPA wrote:
*obama
it hasnt passed yet, so if it does it wont be while Obama is in office Smile
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1/18/2017 10:11pm
ML512 wrote:
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Federal-trade-agency-prop…

Hmm, could've just added to your previous topic...
Michael,
I didnt post in that previous thread because it morphed into a GMO argument.

This bill is from the Obama admin., but fits with Trumps plan of America first.

We and the European manufacturers dont have much pull in this situation. If it becomes reality the best way I would see out of it is for the European importers to import assemblies and assemble the units with US employees.

Otherwise, if this passes everyone will be forced to ride motorcycles from the land of the rising sun !

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1/18/2017 10:32pm
Maico isnt on the list Evil

Or maybe this would be an opportunity for Indian to make a comeback ?



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Well, they certainly are making a comeback on one type of Dirt racing:





And, they've got a hell of (new) Wrecking Crew, in Smith, Mees and Baker.

HD / all the others ( the swarm of Kawasakis, and a few other brands), are really going to be up against it.

Who knows - Polaris might just try with MX / SX / Offroad, but I'd seriously doubt it.
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1/18/2017 11:28pm
ML512 wrote:
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Federal-trade-agency-prop…

Hmm, could've just added to your previous topic...
Michael, I didnt post in that previous thread because it morphed into a GMO argument. This bill is from the Obama admin., but fits with Trumps...
Michael,
I didnt post in that previous thread because it morphed into a GMO argument.

This bill is from the Obama admin., but fits with Trumps plan of America first.

We and the European manufacturers dont have much pull in this situation. If it becomes reality the best way I would see out of it is for the European importers to import assemblies and assemble the units with US employees.

Otherwise, if this passes everyone will be forced to ride motorcycles from the land of the rising sun !



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1/19/2017 6:08am
Bearuno wrote:
Well, they certainly are making a comeback on one type of Dirt racing: [URL=http://s163.photobucket.com/user/bearorso/media/Indian%20FTR750%20as%20ridden%20by%20Joe%20Kopp%20at%202016%20Santa%20Rosa%20Mile%20LH%20side_zpsq5vmfwky.jpg.html][IMG]http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t319/bearorso/Indian%20FTR750%20as%20ridden%20by%20Joe%20Kopp%20at%202016%20Santa%20Rosa%20Mile%20LH%20side_zpsq5vmfwky.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s163.photobucket.com/user/bearorso/media/Indian%20FTR750%20RH%20side%20semi%20close%20up%20Charlotte%20Aug%202016_zpstniosxyk.jpg.html][IMG]http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t319/bearorso/Indian%20FTR750%20RH%20side%20semi%20close%20up%20Charlotte%20Aug%202016_zpstniosxyk.jpg[/IMG][/URL] And, they've got a hell of (new) Wrecking Crew, in Smith...
Well, they certainly are making a comeback on one type of Dirt racing:





And, they've got a hell of (new) Wrecking Crew, in Smith, Mees and Baker.

HD / all the others ( the swarm of Kawasakis, and a few other brands), are really going to be up against it.

Who knows - Polaris might just try with MX / SX / Offroad, but I'd seriously doubt it.
Isn't KTM and Polaris in a partnership or something? I once remember reading it but it might have been a few years ago. If they are couldn't Polaris just make KTMs with Polaris badges on?
1/19/2017 6:16am
Same topic, multiple threads for same topic, different day...
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1/19/2017 8:41am
The solution would be a weird wrong sized cylinder or head to mess up the displacement to get it outside of the tariff zone, with an included rebuild kit for the dealer to retrofit.

What a PITA though.
1/19/2017 9:29am
Bearuno wrote:
Well, they certainly are making a comeback on one type of Dirt racing: [URL=http://s163.photobucket.com/user/bearorso/media/Indian%20FTR750%20as%20ridden%20by%20Joe%20Kopp%20at%202016%20Santa%20Rosa%20Mile%20LH%20side_zpsq5vmfwky.jpg.html][IMG]http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t319/bearorso/Indian%20FTR750%20as%20ridden%20by%20Joe%20Kopp%20at%202016%20Santa%20Rosa%20Mile%20LH%20side_zpsq5vmfwky.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s163.photobucket.com/user/bearorso/media/Indian%20FTR750%20RH%20side%20semi%20close%20up%20Charlotte%20Aug%202016_zpstniosxyk.jpg.html][IMG]http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t319/bearorso/Indian%20FTR750%20RH%20side%20semi%20close%20up%20Charlotte%20Aug%202016_zpstniosxyk.jpg[/IMG][/URL] And, they've got a hell of (new) Wrecking Crew, in Smith...
Well, they certainly are making a comeback on one type of Dirt racing:





And, they've got a hell of (new) Wrecking Crew, in Smith, Mees and Baker.

HD / all the others ( the swarm of Kawasakis, and a few other brands), are really going to be up against it.

Who knows - Polaris might just try with MX / SX / Offroad, but I'd seriously doubt it.
gpnewhouse wrote:
Isn't KTM and Polaris in a partnership or something? I once remember reading it but it might have been a few years ago. If they are...
Isn't KTM and Polaris in a partnership or something? I once remember reading it but it might have been a few years ago. If they are couldn't Polaris just make KTMs with Polaris badges on?
they did for a while about 10 years ago, but it has been over for some time,
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1/19/2017 11:13am
All KTM has to do is:

1) Bring back the 525SX-F (or something along those lines) to avoid the tariff.
2) Get Lance Smail involved along with the RD's and MM and market it like its the best thing since sliced bread.
3) Petition MX Sports/AMA/Feld to revert back to the "old" rules allowing "big" four stroke motors so they can campaign it against the Japanese 450's in proMX here.
4) Dump the 250 teams and create more additional "big class" teams
5) Charge a slight premium for the tens of thousands of these big, latest and greatest four stroke machines they'll sell to underwrite the tariff that'll have to be paid for all the smaller, tarrifed two stroke machines that some of us dumbf*ckers continue to buy.

Problem solved!

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1/19/2017 5:20pm
If this tafiff comes to reality, why couldn't the European manufacturers ship separate containers of engines, frames, wheels, suspension and plastic and assemble the components in the USA ?

A container of components is not a motorcycle.

Foriegn automobile manufacturers moved production to America.
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1/19/2017 10:53pm Edited Date/Time 1/19/2017 10:54pm
Vitards are something else. Who blew Steve Matthes gets 900 + replies and Euro motorcycles price rising by 100 %
Nobody cares about ?

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