Kenny "The Suit" Roczen...hindsight.

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You know, I bagged on KR pretty heavy for his wearing a designer suit to the A1 press conference yesterday. I said he looked "ridiculous"...and I really felt that at the time.

But, in retrospect I see that Roczen...on top of it being a huge PR stunt to draw attention...was actually calling us to consider elevating the status of our tiny (in comparison) sport, at least in professionalism and respectfulness to other professional sports where a press conference is done with athletes in dress attire.

So, maybe it's just an old dog like me being unwilling to expand my viewpoint. Riders have always dressed a certain way, with jerseys & caps ablazened with sponsor logos and such. That's cool, but maybe it's time for a paradigm shift...if our sport is ever going to be recognized & appreciated by the masses.
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resetjet 1/6/2017 5:35am
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No hes out of control cocky. You had it right the first time
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I'm good with the suit. I think its good when people dress for success.

However, it would have been EPIC had he worn this... considering his new move to Shift.



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If you watched the press conference that's the exact reason Kenny gave when asked about wearing the suit. It seems that many that didn't watch or listen are bagging on Kenny just by scouring pictures alone.

Now I thought it was cool it seemed a bit out of place. I think the sport needs to land somewhere in the middle between the "NASCAR/Monster Truck" pit shirt and hat look and a business suit. However, it needs to move as a whole with regards to the press conference setting and "production"
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hasko158 1/6/2017 5:43am
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I think you were right the first time, he's turning into a total tool. And it wasn't even just wearing the suit, it was him basically saying the other guys up there and all the ones before aren't 'professional".

Then the IG video rolling up in a NSX....#baller (insert eye roll)

NASCAR drivers wear their driver suits in almost all appearances. I mean, he even wore the same kind of suit and matching tie as McGregor.

Wonder how his sponsors felt as they weren't on display.

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resetjet wrote:
No hes out of control cocky. You had it right the first time
I think he's doing fine. I would have been the cockiest dickhead in America had I been given his ability and salary at his age. I doubt many possess the ability to stay well grounded at that age. Let him play a little for Christs sake.
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Not a huge shocker. You're always going on about Kenny over something.
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Don't you have something important to be upset about?
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ga_pike wrote:
I'm good with the suit. I think its good when people dress for success. However, it would have been EPIC had he worn this... considering his...
I'm good with the suit. I think its good when people dress for success.

However, it would have been EPIC had he worn this... considering his new move to Shift.



Now that he is with shift I have a feeling that suit is the next step
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hasko158 wrote:
I think you were right the first time, he's turning into a total tool. And it wasn't even just wearing the suit, it was him basically...
I think you were right the first time, he's turning into a total tool. And it wasn't even just wearing the suit, it was him basically saying the other guys up there and all the ones before aren't 'professional".

Then the IG video rolling up in a NSX....#baller (insert eye roll)

NASCAR drivers wear their driver suits in almost all appearances. I mean, he even wore the same kind of suit and matching tie as McGregor.

Wonder how his sponsors felt as they weren't on display.
Apparently, the sponsors were all on board. I think that was posted by GuyB in the other thread.
quadzrulebro 1/6/2017 5:57am
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I remember a cocky young factory Honda racer rolling up to the press conference in an NSX a few years ago. The license plate on that NSX read 93CHAMP. That cocky young superstar did more to grow the popularity of our sport than anyone before or anyone since. Good luck this weekend, Kenny, and don't ever let any of the grouchy old haters cramp your style.
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I remember a cocky young factory Honda racer rolling up to the press conference in an NSX a few years ago. The license plate on that...
I remember a cocky young factory Honda racer rolling up to the press conference in an NSX a few years ago. The license plate on that NSX read 93CHAMP. That cocky young superstar did more to grow the popularity of our sport than anyone before or anyone since. Good luck this weekend, Kenny, and don't ever let any of the grouchy old haters cramp your style.
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You know you're dealing with a community of rednecks when a suit is that big of a deal.

I applaud anything that brings the sport away from the flatbillers
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The fact that we're still having this conversation a day later sheds light on just how back-asswards this sport and its fan base is. An athlete work a f*cking suit to a press conference. A suit. And we're still trying to come to terms with it almost 24 hours later. I'm truly embarrassed as a fan.
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resetjet wrote:
No hes out of control cocky. You had it right the first time
Kenny says, "get me my steak and taters, Bitch".

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newmann, where have you been? Grinning It's "steak and mac n cheese."Laughing
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resetjet wrote:
No hes out of control cocky. You had it right the first time
reded wrote:
I think he's doing fine. I would have been the cockiest dickhead in America had I been given his ability and salary at his age. I...
I think he's doing fine. I would have been the cockiest dickhead in America had I been given his ability and salary at his age. I doubt many possess the ability to stay well grounded at that age. Let him play a little for Christs sake.
Every single rider in their early 20's, actually most men in their early 20's are overly cocky. Why people are surpised is beyond me. Look at JS7, RC, Reed, RV, Jlaw, even forkner is about there with his body language. They are all cocky/were cocky around 20 years old. Cant tell you how often i hear the old farts at work complaining about the arrogence of us kids in our 20s. Its old news.
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hasko158 wrote:
I think you were right the first time, he's turning into a total tool. And it wasn't even just wearing the suit, it was him basically...
I think you were right the first time, he's turning into a total tool. And it wasn't even just wearing the suit, it was him basically saying the other guys up there and all the ones before aren't 'professional".

Then the IG video rolling up in a NSX....#baller (insert eye roll)

NASCAR drivers wear their driver suits in almost all appearances. I mean, he even wore the same kind of suit and matching tie as McGregor.

Wonder how his sponsors felt as they weren't on display.
As far as rolling up to the event in an NSX, he is sponsored by Honda and the NSX is it's flag ship model. Honda knew there would be a ton of eyes on him. He posts all those IG pics of him using the new Honda "truck" for Christ sake, it shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone.
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hasko158 wrote:
I think you were right the first time, he's turning into a total tool. And it wasn't even just wearing the suit, it was him basically...
I think you were right the first time, he's turning into a total tool. And it wasn't even just wearing the suit, it was him basically saying the other guys up there and all the ones before aren't 'professional".

Then the IG video rolling up in a NSX....#baller (insert eye roll)

NASCAR drivers wear their driver suits in almost all appearances. I mean, he even wore the same kind of suit and matching tie as McGregor.

Wonder how his sponsors felt as they weren't on display.
You don't think he has talked that through with his sponsors before?
Of course he has, and it probably wasn't his idea to roll up in a HONDA sports car...

He had his Redbull fox helmet right in front of him, no need to put a hat on and have 12 more red bull logos on your body... Breitling must have been pretty happy with him wearing his new watch to a suit and not to a honda jacket.

His paycheck doesn't care if people think he's cocky. That guy is pretty darn good at making money.

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DoctorJD wrote:
The fact that we're still having this conversation a day later sheds light on just how back-asswards this sport and its fan base is. An athlete...
The fact that we're still having this conversation a day later sheds light on just how back-asswards this sport and its fan base is. An athlete work a f*cking suit to a press conference. A suit. And we're still trying to come to terms with it almost 24 hours later. I'm truly embarrassed as a fan.
^^ Yup. It is rather astonishing.
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BobPA 1/6/2017 6:21am
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Not a fan of the suit

Pretty big fan of Kenny's on track ability

He is just a young kid, I think some of you are looking too far into things
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resetjet wrote:
No hes out of control cocky. You had it right the first time
reded wrote:
I think he's doing fine. I would have been the cockiest dickhead in America had I been given his ability and salary at his age. I...
I think he's doing fine. I would have been the cockiest dickhead in America had I been given his ability and salary at his age. I doubt many possess the ability to stay well grounded at that age. Let him play a little for Christs sake.
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Every single rider in their early 20's, actually most men in their early 20's are overly cocky. Why people are surpised is beyond me. Look at...
Every single rider in their early 20's, actually most men in their early 20's are overly cocky. Why people are surpised is beyond me. Look at JS7, RC, Reed, RV, Jlaw, even forkner is about there with his body language. They are all cocky/were cocky around 20 years old. Cant tell you how often i hear the old farts at work complaining about the arrogence of us kids in our 20s. Its old news.
The people who have a problem with cockiness, masculinity, and testosterone in general, are the beta males. If one has trouble differentiating between the two, just watch what happens any time Seely and Anderson go into the same corner together, and lurk the banter on this forum afterward. Perfect alpha/beta split dichotomy every time.
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Pepe wrote:
The people who have a problem with cockiness, masculinity, and testosterone in general, are the beta males. If one has trouble differentiating between the two, just...
The people who have a problem with cockiness, masculinity, and testosterone in general, are the beta males. If one has trouble differentiating between the two, just watch what happens any time Seely and Anderson go into the same corner together, and lurk the banter on this forum afterward. Perfect alpha/beta split dichotomy every time.
Not so much.
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https://youtu.be/vFevxqmg92s

This is how I picture everyone looking like behind their computer that are assed up by Kenny wearing a suit.
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resetjet wrote:
No hes out of control cocky. You had it right the first time
reded wrote:
I think he's doing fine. I would have been the cockiest dickhead in America had I been given his ability and salary at his age. I...
I think he's doing fine. I would have been the cockiest dickhead in America had I been given his ability and salary at his age. I doubt many possess the ability to stay well grounded at that age. Let him play a little for Christs sake.
Acidreamer wrote:
Every single rider in their early 20's, actually most men in their early 20's are overly cocky. Why people are surpised is beyond me. Look at...
Every single rider in their early 20's, actually most men in their early 20's are overly cocky. Why people are surpised is beyond me. Look at JS7, RC, Reed, RV, Jlaw, even forkner is about there with his body language. They are all cocky/were cocky around 20 years old. Cant tell you how often i hear the old farts at work complaining about the arrogence of us kids in our 20s. Its old news.
Acidreamer for the win. He nailed it.
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reded wrote:
I think he's doing fine. I would have been the cockiest dickhead in America had I been given his ability and salary at his age. I...
I think he's doing fine. I would have been the cockiest dickhead in America had I been given his ability and salary at his age. I doubt many possess the ability to stay well grounded at that age. Let him play a little for Christs sake.
Acidreamer wrote:
Every single rider in their early 20's, actually most men in their early 20's are overly cocky. Why people are surpised is beyond me. Look at...
Every single rider in their early 20's, actually most men in their early 20's are overly cocky. Why people are surpised is beyond me. Look at JS7, RC, Reed, RV, Jlaw, even forkner is about there with his body language. They are all cocky/were cocky around 20 years old. Cant tell you how often i hear the old farts at work complaining about the arrogence of us kids in our 20s. Its old news.
Pepe wrote:
The people who have a problem with cockiness, masculinity, and testosterone in general, are the beta males. If one has trouble differentiating between the two, just...
The people who have a problem with cockiness, masculinity, and testosterone in general, are the beta males. If one has trouble differentiating between the two, just watch what happens any time Seely and Anderson go into the same corner together, and lurk the banter on this forum afterward. Perfect alpha/beta split dichotomy every time.
Certainly a lot of low T on this forum some should consider TRT.
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lostboy819 1/6/2017 6:40am
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For all you ladies who are upset about Kenny's fashion statement I am sure there will be plenty of shows this Saturday on the "lifetime channel" or you can watch" the view" The rest of us will watch the race on FOX.





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Pepe wrote:
You know you're dealing with a community of rednecks when a suit is that big of a deal. I applaud anything that brings the sport away...
You know you're dealing with a community of rednecks when a suit is that big of a deal.

I applaud anything that brings the sport away from the flatbillers
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moto317 wrote:
Certainly a lot of low T on this forum some should consider TRT.
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