The things Roczen has that Dungey doesn't?

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woody woodpecker wrote:
I can't believe it triggers you guys so much that a top contender believes he is better than his main competition. It'd be more concerning if...
I can't believe it triggers you guys so much that a top contender believes he is better than his main competition.

It'd be more concerning if he didn't have this mindset.
visser62 wrote:
The problem isn't that he believes he's the best. It's that he repeatedly insults everyone else, including Dungey, who has beaten him three years in a...
The problem isn't that he believes he's the best. It's that he repeatedly insults everyone else, including Dungey, who has beaten him three years in a row.
When has he ever insulted Dungey? As far as I've seen the only thing is said is that he believes that he has some things that Dungey doesn't and he believes he can beat him. To me that's hardly an insult.
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jemcee wrote:
One thing I noticed from that show, After his crash at the Monster cup Kenny was concerned about looking like a fool.. A truly self confident...
One thing I noticed from that show, After his crash at the Monster cup Kenny was concerned about looking like a fool.. A truly self confident person wouldn't care what other people thought of them
LumpDog841 wrote:
The old saying that confidence is quiet and insecurities are loud.
Because Kenny got this far and won his titles without self confidence. Jesus christ man....
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jemcee wrote:
One thing I noticed from that show, After his crash at the Monster cup Kenny was concerned about looking like a fool.. A truly self confident...
One thing I noticed from that show, After his crash at the Monster cup Kenny was concerned about looking like a fool.. A truly self confident person wouldn't care what other people thought of them
LumpDog841 wrote:
The old saying that confidence is quiet and insecurities are loud.
burnside wrote:
Because Kenny got this far and won his titles without self confidence. Jesus christ man....
I hope I can be as insecure as Roczen is on a bike someday...
woody woodpecker 12/20/2016 7:04am
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woody woodpecker wrote:
I can't believe it triggers you guys so much that a top contender believes he is better than his main competition. It'd be more concerning if...
I can't believe it triggers you guys so much that a top contender believes he is better than his main competition.

It'd be more concerning if he didn't have this mindset.
visser62 wrote:
The problem isn't that he believes he's the best. It's that he repeatedly insults everyone else, including Dungey, who has beaten him three years in a...
The problem isn't that he believes he's the best. It's that he repeatedly insults everyone else, including Dungey, who has beaten him three years in a row.
Really? Give me one example of him insulting anyone (other than Barcia)

I think even Dungey would tell you he's been nothing but respectful.

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For all the 'Baller comment' dudes, I know it's all tongue in cheek, but I guarantee you Dungey has probably close to double the amount of money in the bank that Roczen does. Ryan won his first 450SX title six years ago.
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MBBadgers 12/20/2016 10:39am
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He does not have an accent, he lost that a year or two ago, pretty impressive if you ask me.
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burnside 12/20/2016 10:42am
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LumpDog841 wrote:
The old saying that confidence is quiet and insecurities are loud.
burnside wrote:
Because Kenny got this far and won his titles without self confidence. Jesus christ man....
Fourth_Floor wrote:
I hope I can be as insecure as Roczen is on a bike someday...
Me too!
To think he's so insecure he came back after that crash and won the next moto.
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kkawboy14 12/20/2016 10:59am
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MBBadgers wrote:
He does not have an accent, he lost that a year or two ago, pretty impressive if you ask me.
He has an accent when he sings The Sound of Music
LumpDog841 12/20/2016 12:02pm
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jemcee wrote:
One thing I noticed from that show, After his crash at the Monster cup Kenny was concerned about looking like a fool.. A truly self confident...
One thing I noticed from that show, After his crash at the Monster cup Kenny was concerned about looking like a fool.. A truly self confident person wouldn't care what other people thought of them
LumpDog841 wrote:
The old saying that confidence is quiet and insecurities are loud.
burnside wrote:
Because Kenny got this far and won his titles without self confidence. Jesus christ man....
Being confident on a bike and confident of who you are as a person are two different things.
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woody woodpecker wrote:
I can't believe it triggers you guys so much that a top contender believes he is better than his main competition. It'd be more concerning if...
I can't believe it triggers you guys so much that a top contender believes he is better than his main competition.

It'd be more concerning if he didn't have this mindset.
visser62 wrote:
The problem isn't that he believes he's the best. It's that he repeatedly insults everyone else, including Dungey, who has beaten him three years in a...
The problem isn't that he believes he's the best. It's that he repeatedly insults everyone else, including Dungey, who has beaten him three years in a row.
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When has he ever insulted Dungey? As far as I've seen the only thing is said is that he believes that he has some things that...
When has he ever insulted Dungey? As far as I've seen the only thing is said is that he believes that he has some things that Dungey doesn't and he believes he can beat him. To me that's hardly an insult.
Saying he has something Dungey lacks after getting his ass kicked in the last two sx seasons is not only insulting, it's arrogant.
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20 out of 24 moto wins in one season?
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Not that I really care all that that much but a comparison of the 2 IMO.

Things Kroc has that Dungey doesn't:
Youthfulness on his side
Baller status
Is bilingual
An MX2 Title
Momentum into A1

Things that Dungey has but Kroc doesn't:
Experience as a champion
An immense amount of class(sure Ken does too but not as much as Dungey)
A few extra championships
A cemented status as an all time great indoors and out.(not to say Ken won't too, just not quite yet IMO)


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gsxr6 wrote:
East Rutherford ended that streak right?
Correct, and my reference was to Caddyshack, when Bill Murray had a young caddie up against the wall with a pitchfork, and told him that the Dali Lama gave him "total consciousness (when he dies), so I got that going for me, you know, which is nice."
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RCB33 wrote:
Not that I really care all that that much but a comparison of the 2 IMO. Things Kroc has that Dungey doesn't: Youthfulness on his side...
Not that I really care all that that much but a comparison of the 2 IMO.

Things Kroc has that Dungey doesn't:
Youthfulness on his side
Baller status
Is bilingual
An MX2 Title
Momentum into A1

Things that Dungey has but Kroc doesn't:
Experience as a champion
An immense amount of class(sure Ken does too but not as much as Dungey)
A few extra championships
A cemented status as an all time great indoors and out.(not to say Ken won't too, just not quite yet IMO)


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Dungey has a lites mx championship, Roczen doesn't. He also has a few 450 SX championships that Roczen doesn't have. You didn't seem to mention those in particular. Also, Dungey never raced MX2 in the GP's, so it's impossible for him to have that championship. They both did race the lites here though, and one has a championship and the other doesn't.

A lot of variables and both are great. Dungey is a clear cut hall of famer and an all time great due to multiple championships in both series. Roczen needs to win a few SX championships to get in the same category. Roczen has lots of time and I have no doubt he will get there and be one of the all time greats.
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visser62 12/20/2016 7:41pm
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woody woodpecker wrote:
Really? Give me one example of him insulting anyone (other than Barcia)

I think even Dungey would tell you he's been nothing but respectful.
Passive aggressively mentioning that he has things Ryan doesn't, and making all the baller comments about working the hardest, and shoveling shit on Aldon is all a way of insulting Dungey. He doesn't have to come out and say Ryan sucks to insult him.
woody woodpecker 12/20/2016 7:55pm
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visser62 wrote:
Passive aggressively mentioning that he has things Ryan doesn't, and making all the baller comments about working the hardest, and shoveling shit on Aldon is all...
Passive aggressively mentioning that he has things Ryan doesn't, and making all the baller comments about working the hardest, and shoveling shit on Aldon is all a way of insulting Dungey. He doesn't have to come out and say Ryan sucks to insult him.
So in other words he didn't insult him at all and its you who's taking it that way.

You guys should try harder, if you had some legitimate reasons to be hating on Roczen all the time it would make this more interesting.

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visser62 wrote:
Passive aggressively mentioning that he has things Ryan doesn't, and making all the baller comments about working the hardest, and shoveling shit on Aldon is all...
Passive aggressively mentioning that he has things Ryan doesn't, and making all the baller comments about working the hardest, and shoveling shit on Aldon is all a way of insulting Dungey. He doesn't have to come out and say Ryan sucks to insult him.
woody woodpecker wrote:
So in other words he didn't insult him at all and its you who's taking it that way. You guys should try harder, if you had...
So in other words he didn't insult him at all and its you who's taking it that way.

You guys should try harder, if you had some legitimate reasons to be hating on Roczen all the time it would make this more interesting.
Some of these pussified dorks need a safe space for their circle jerk bro
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peelout wrote:
Some of these pussified dorks need a safe space for their circle jerk bro
Everyone gets a trophy, Bro.
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The two things that come to mind is immaturity and a loud mouth Dad.
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Mit12 wrote:
The two things that come to mind is immaturity and a loud mouth Dad.
*shaking my head in disbelief*
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visser62 wrote:
Passive aggressively mentioning that he has things Ryan doesn't, and making all the baller comments about working the hardest, and shoveling shit on Aldon is all...
Passive aggressively mentioning that he has things Ryan doesn't, and making all the baller comments about working the hardest, and shoveling shit on Aldon is all a way of insulting Dungey. He doesn't have to come out and say Ryan sucks to insult him.
woody woodpecker wrote:
So in other words he didn't insult him at all and its you who's taking it that way. You guys should try harder, if you had...
So in other words he didn't insult him at all and its you who's taking it that way.

You guys should try harder, if you had some legitimate reasons to be hating on Roczen all the time it would make this more interesting.
peelout wrote:
Some of these pussified dorks need a safe space for their circle jerk bro
So, to summarize... KR claims to have a 'lot' of things RD doesn't. I'd like to know what they are specifically and give a few clear factual examples. Some people take offence to the question straight away. Others note legit advantages. Others though, make thinly veiled references to both rider's anatomy and their own self projected broclivities. Right now, I regret having posted the question and humbly ask whomever has the ability to flush this mess.
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jemcee 12/21/2016 12:56am
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jemcee wrote:
One thing I noticed from that show, After his crash at the Monster cup Kenny was concerned about looking like a fool.. A truly self confident...
One thing I noticed from that show, After his crash at the Monster cup Kenny was concerned about looking like a fool.. A truly self confident person wouldn't care what other people thought of them
LumpDog841 wrote:
The old saying that confidence is quiet and insecurities are loud.
burnside wrote:
Because Kenny got this far and won his titles without self confidence. Jesus christ man....
Kenny seems intent on telling us how confident he is and how he's better than everyone else.. Then he was concerned about what the people he's better than thought of him after he made a mistake even though he's super confident..
If he was as confident as he says he wouldn't care what people thought after making a mistake
So I said a truly self confident person wouldn't care what people thought of them

You read that I said he had no self confidence on the bike and apparently that he's shit

I don't actually think either of those things! Just that maybe he's trying more to convince himself that he's super confident and better
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JB 19 12/21/2016 1:10am
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Seems like these days Kenny has a big chip on his shoulder........and for a pro athlete that isn't a bad thing.

Whether it's real or self created, he seems very intent on proving himself. Sometimes you have to find ways to piss yourself off when you are looking for motivation.

If Dungey is on the way out this year it will be interesting to see how he responds when Roczen and Tomac turn up the heat.
TheOriginalPancakee 12/21/2016 6:03am
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Why does everyone hate on Kenny geeez. Kenny is fun and entertaining! Dungey is freaking boringggggggggggggggggggggggggggg doesn't spice anything up
TheOriginalPancakee 12/21/2016 6:05am
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LumpDog841 wrote:
The old saying that confidence is quiet and insecurities are loud.
burnside wrote:
Because Kenny got this far and won his titles without self confidence. Jesus christ man....
jemcee wrote:
Kenny seems intent on telling us how confident he is and how he's better than everyone else.. Then he was concerned about what the people he's...
Kenny seems intent on telling us how confident he is and how he's better than everyone else.. Then he was concerned about what the people he's better than thought of him after he made a mistake even though he's super confident..
If he was as confident as he says he wouldn't care what people thought after making a mistake
So I said a truly self confident person wouldn't care what people thought of them

You read that I said he had no self confidence on the bike and apparently that he's shit

I don't actually think either of those things! Just that maybe he's trying more to convince himself that he's super confident and better
Damn right Kenny is confident. Should've won that million. Came out third Moto last gate pick and won!
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TheOriginalPancakee wrote:
Why does everyone hate on Kenny geeez. Kenny is fun and entertaining! Dungey is freaking boringggggggggggggggggggggggggggg doesn't spice anything up
Does anyone really need a reason to not like any rider or anyone in the world of sports for that matter ? Sometimes it's just because. People take this shit way too seriously.
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This thread hurts my brain...
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twotwosix wrote:
For all the 'Baller comment' dudes, I know it's all tongue in cheek, but I guarantee you Dungey has probably close to double the amount of...
For all the 'Baller comment' dudes, I know it's all tongue in cheek, but I guarantee you Dungey has probably close to double the amount of money in the bank that Roczen does. Ryan won his first 450SX title six years ago.
That's a fair point: it's paid REALLY WELL to log all those podiums...which has paid him more than anyone-else thus far via...

A KTM/Red-Bull check
A Fox check
An Oakley check
A Target check

How much do you think he was earning EVERY WEEK & then you have to add...

The TITLE bonuses which really add up.ESPECIALLY for SX.

Ryan has MILLIONS in checks from the podiums and Many Millions in checks from THE TITLES. On top of all that, his price went up after winning those 1st few titles. So, while many assume that Kenny is the guy making bank...

They seem to have completely forgotten who's been winning the VAST majority of ALL THE MONEY.

There's only -2- things that Kenny's got that Ryan doesn't: a New Motorcycle & a New Team.

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