2017 KTM 450 SXF Engine Failure (Help)

DimitrieSep 12/5/2016 1:01pm
12/5/2016 1:01pm
Yess 6 months warranty here in Holland too
Underground 12/5/2016 2:05pm
12/5/2016 2:05pm
KTM will definitely cover it as long as you are diplomatic about it and don't act a clown. It's just going to be the inconvenience of the ordeal, pulling your engine and sending it back to the dealer plus time off the bike while it gets fixed that costs you. The dealer you bought the bike from is your best bet for the warranty as there's usually a loss in $$ for the labor paid by KTM to rectify the issue than what it actually takes unless you have done a few previously.
Don't forget to ask for a bottle of new coolant and oil.
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Be a Jackhole and tell them you want a brand new bike. Tell them you have no confidence in this one any longer and threaten them with the lemon law and a lawsuit. If you cave and just allow them to fix it, don't put up with any discussion of back ordered parts as you know that same bike is sitting in a dealer somewhere and you are entitled to running bike NOW so strip one for parts. Demand they make your payments if it was financed and pay back your entry fee if you were racing or at least the track fee the day it blew up. How about that trip you were planning to take with the bike, they need to reimburse you for that also.

See how good KTM is when they are treated like Honda, Kawasaki and the other Japanese OEM's.
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vetmxr 12/5/2016 4:34pm
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I wouldn't touch or troubleshoot anything on that bike until your dealer looks at it.....all that can do is help to void a warranty. Be nice till its time to not be nice Smile don't even drain the oil.....let them see it exactly how it ended, or they may balk.

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kzizok 12/5/2016 5:09pm
12/5/2016 5:09pm Edited Date/Time 12/5/2016 5:11pm
Damn, some chippy dudes in this thread.

It sucks when something happens, especially on a Sunday and/or Monday (when dealers are closed) and you drive yourself crazy thinking about it. So, people reach out, on a forum, to hopefully help ease their mind with info that may be related. Sometimes people just want a little relief.

Shit happens, OP didn't start chastising KTM, just starting the process of fixing his issue.
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kzizok 12/5/2016 5:15pm
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fordo-197 wrote:
It's a 6 month warranty on ktm and husky in the U.K. Seems strange you get 30 days across the pond
Yes, it does seem strange until you compare it to Japanese bikes (maybe Yamaha still has a 30 day). So, KTM's 30 day warranty is 30 days better than the other options. A 6 month warranty would be incredible!
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A friend had this 450 Husky 2017 FC making sounds, also think it was a oil channel that was clogged so cam was destroyed.

First time i feel i hear something of an issue with the 2016-2017 KTM 450 SXF, besides the condensator mount.
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Pretty sure they had a recall on some of the 2017 350-450's, something about a crank nut backing out and rubbing on the side of the case. You may check if they have VIN's listed for the recall. Good luck getting it sorted.
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aees 12/5/2016 8:57pm
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350 only, not 450.
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GPrider wrote:
your wondering if anyone else has ever had an engine lock up? the answer is for sure, it happens. What exactly do you need help with...
your wondering if anyone else has ever had an engine lock up? the answer is for sure, it happens. What exactly do you need help with? your dealers phone number? They should be able to help you.
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Sometimes, it's just better not to hit submit.
GPrider wrote:
sometimes its better to make a phone call before putting up threads that can put a black eye on a manufacture or company. Use your head...
sometimes its better to make a phone call before putting up threads that can put a black eye on a manufacture or company. Use your head ML
nah, you don't come across doooshy at all...
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GPrider wrote:
sometimes its better to make a phone call before putting up threads that can put a black eye on a manufacture or company. Use your head...
sometimes its better to make a phone call before putting up threads that can put a black eye on a manufacture or company. Use your head ML
If the engine failed, then it failed. It seems the poster lives in a fairly obscure country, especially when it comes to moto, and our forum can be utilized as a large resource when it comes to gathering info on a problem...or being pointed in the right direction. At no point did the poster go on a rant about the product but has simply asked for assistance. Per the all-too-often usual around here, the question was answered with an unnecessary attitude. So yes, I use my head all the time to think my posts through from a logical standpoint.
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David934 12/6/2016 3:21am
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My friend have something similar of his Husky. 20 hour bike will suddenly not start. Camshaft was totally destroyed. Small piece of steel clogged oil channel...
My friend have something similar of his Husky. 20 hour bike will suddenly not start. Camshaft was totally destroyed. Small piece of steel clogged oil channel into the head.Sad
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From the 30 minute mark my friends were saying something sounds odd..But i was in denial with my new bike so i contnued to ride thinking...
From the 30 minute mark my friends were saying something sounds odd..But i was in denial with my new bike so i contnued to ride thinking that I've had Kawis and other brands and even other KTMS that sounded "odd" and never had issues..

Calling Palmetto Motorsports now.
We are bet, that small piece of steel was from factory..
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David934 12/6/2016 3:29am
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aees wrote:
A friend had this 450 Husky 2017 FC making sounds, also think it was a oil channel that was clogged so cam was destroyed. First time...
A friend had this 450 Husky 2017 FC making sounds, also think it was a oil channel that was clogged so cam was destroyed.

First time i feel i hear something of an issue with the 2016-2017 KTM 450 SXF, besides the condensator mount.
KTM was covered?
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GPrider wrote:
sometimes its better to make a phone call before putting up threads that can put a black eye on a manufacture or company. Use your head...
sometimes its better to make a phone call before putting up threads that can put a black eye on a manufacture or company. Use your head ML
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If the engine failed, then it failed. It seems the poster lives in a fairly obscure country, especially when it comes to moto, and our forum...
If the engine failed, then it failed. It seems the poster lives in a fairly obscure country, especially when it comes to moto, and our forum can be utilized as a large resource when it comes to gathering info on a problem...or being pointed in the right direction. At no point did the poster go on a rant about the product but has simply asked for assistance. Per the all-too-often usual around here, the question was answered with an unnecessary attitude. So yes, I use my head all the time to think my posts through from a logical standpoint.
my point was, ok, your engine blew up, that sucks. Call your dealer on Monday, see what they say. If you get nowhere then by all means, post a help me thread. But at least make a phone call first and see what they say. Many guys around here are quick to point fingers at the manufacture or a moto company anytime something doesn't go their way. And many times they put an unneeded blemish on said company, my opinion.

as far as being a little harsh, I am sorry to the OP
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aees wrote:
A friend had this 450 Husky 2017 FC making sounds, also think it was a oil channel that was clogged so cam was destroyed. First time...
A friend had this 450 Husky 2017 FC making sounds, also think it was a oil channel that was clogged so cam was destroyed.

First time i feel i hear something of an issue with the 2016-2017 KTM 450 SXF, besides the condensator mount.
David934 wrote:
KTM was covered?
Husky did not cover that @ 30h
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RMT wrote:
Be a Jackhole and tell them you want a brand new bike. Tell them you have no confidence in this one any longer and threaten them...
Be a Jackhole and tell them you want a brand new bike. Tell them you have no confidence in this one any longer and threaten them with the lemon law and a lawsuit. If you cave and just allow them to fix it, don't put up with any discussion of back ordered parts as you know that same bike is sitting in a dealer somewhere and you are entitled to running bike NOW so strip one for parts. Demand they make your payments if it was financed and pay back your entry fee if you were racing or at least the track fee the day it blew up. How about that trip you were planning to take with the bike, they need to reimburse you for that also.

See how good KTM is when they are treated like Honda, Kawasaki and the other Japanese OEM's.
Want them to comp a 5 star restaurant as well?
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my point was, ok, your engine blew up, that sucks. Call your dealer on Monday, see what they say. If you get nowhere then by all...
my point was, ok, your engine blew up, that sucks. Call your dealer on Monday, see what they say. If you get nowhere then by all means, post a help me thread. But at least make a phone call first and see what they say. Many guys around here are quick to point fingers at the manufacture or a moto company anytime something doesn't go their way. And many times they put an unneeded blemish on said company, my opinion.

as far as being a little harsh, I am sorry to the OP
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My 2007 Honda 450 locked up during a race...... Turned out a piece broke off the kick start mechanism and dropped into the works....stopped me cold going through the whoops.....almost over the bars..it was a sand track so it kind of swapped to a stop without any craziness ................the bike was 2 weeks in my hands, new off the floor........

Honda handled it.

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RMT wrote:
Be a Jackhole and tell them you want a brand new bike. Tell them you have no confidence in this one any longer and threaten them...
Be a Jackhole and tell them you want a brand new bike. Tell them you have no confidence in this one any longer and threaten them with the lemon law and a lawsuit. If you cave and just allow them to fix it, don't put up with any discussion of back ordered parts as you know that same bike is sitting in a dealer somewhere and you are entitled to running bike NOW so strip one for parts. Demand they make your payments if it was financed and pay back your entry fee if you were racing or at least the track fee the day it blew up. How about that trip you were planning to take with the bike, they need to reimburse you for that also.

See how good KTM is when they are treated like Honda, Kawasaki and the other Japanese OEM's.
You know you can still accomplish a lot with a great company like KTM without acting like a royal dick. Coming in hot like that when all that is needed is a simple explanation to KTM corporate. They will handle it. Do you know how many defective cars Ford or Chevy puts out a year?! God forbid 1 KTM has an issue and they have to hear your list of entitlements before they even get to offer help. Smh... what a joke! Save your ignorant suggestions. People around here are looking for solutions.
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RMT wrote:
Be a Jackhole and tell them you want a brand new bike. Tell them you have no confidence in this one any longer and threaten them...
Be a Jackhole and tell them you want a brand new bike. Tell them you have no confidence in this one any longer and threaten them with the lemon law and a lawsuit. If you cave and just allow them to fix it, don't put up with any discussion of back ordered parts as you know that same bike is sitting in a dealer somewhere and you are entitled to running bike NOW so strip one for parts. Demand they make your payments if it was financed and pay back your entry fee if you were racing or at least the track fee the day it blew up. How about that trip you were planning to take with the bike, they need to reimburse you for that also.

See how good KTM is when they are treated like Honda, Kawasaki and the other Japanese OEM's.
drifto614 wrote:
You know you can still accomplish a lot with a great company like KTM without acting like a royal dick. Coming in hot like that when...
You know you can still accomplish a lot with a great company like KTM without acting like a royal dick. Coming in hot like that when all that is needed is a simple explanation to KTM corporate. They will handle it. Do you know how many defective cars Ford or Chevy puts out a year?! God forbid 1 KTM has an issue and they have to hear your list of entitlements before they even get to offer help. Smh... what a joke! Save your ignorant suggestions. People around here are looking for solutions.
I'm thinking (hoping) this guy is saying that's how people over react to a failure with a Japanese made cycle and wonder why they get little response, so try acting the same way with KTM and see where you get???? Could of maybe been on the other side of the phone/counter to said requests??? I've experienced my far share of grieve from customers that make you want to do sweet FA to help them but nothing like that, but then I don't live in the good ol' law suit loving USA.
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GPrider wrote:
your wondering if anyone else has ever had an engine lock up? the answer is for sure, it happens. What exactly do you need help with...
your wondering if anyone else has ever had an engine lock up? the answer is for sure, it happens. What exactly do you need help with? your dealers phone number? They should be able to help you.
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Do you get paid overtime to be a dickhead on Sunday's?
No shit what a useless prick.

Anybody have engine problems with 17s with low hours?, like there might be a common problem or a defect. Or how bout if others have the same problem, he has now put it out that it may be common. Pretty freaking simple

Were you 48 months old when your mother finally slapped you off the teet.


The only thing I would add is if you own a KTM, get your transmission Kryo treated. But KTM has been covering almost all the failures I've seen
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adamdf 12/6/2016 4:01pm
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Guys. I spoke with the dealer and they are workign with me to have the problem resolved - just like I knew they would.

I only posted here because I wanted to know if anyone else may have had similar issues and if so, then I was eager to hear of their resolution. KTM is a great company and I never doubted that this would eventually be resolved..

Thanks for those that posted with their support! I'll let you all know what the outcome of all of this is.
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GPrider 12/6/2016 4:12pm
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GPrider wrote:
your wondering if anyone else has ever had an engine lock up? the answer is for sure, it happens. What exactly do you need help with...
your wondering if anyone else has ever had an engine lock up? the answer is for sure, it happens. What exactly do you need help with? your dealers phone number? They should be able to help you.
reded wrote:
Do you get paid overtime to be a dickhead on Sunday's?
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No shit what a useless prick. Anybody have engine problems with 17s with low hours?, like there might be a common problem or a defect. Or...
No shit what a useless prick.

Anybody have engine problems with 17s with low hours?, like there might be a common problem or a defect. Or how bout if others have the same problem, he has now put it out that it may be common. Pretty freaking simple

Were you 48 months old when your mother finally slapped you off the teet.


The only thing I would add is if you own a KTM, get your transmission Kryo treated. But KTM has been covering almost all the failures I've seen
haha, well my prick is not worthless, have three boys. Not sure how old I was when my mom slapped me of hear teet either. But I will admit I was a dick. Already apologized to the OP. Guessing you missed that? being from IL that makes sense.
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aees wrote:
A friend had this 450 Husky 2017 FC making sounds, also think it was a oil channel that was clogged so cam was destroyed. First time...
A friend had this 450 Husky 2017 FC making sounds, also think it was a oil channel that was clogged so cam was destroyed.

First time i feel i hear something of an issue with the 2016-2017 KTM 450 SXF, besides the condensator mount.
David934 wrote:
KTM was covered?
aees wrote:
Husky did not cover that @ 30h
we had the same
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David934 12/7/2016 12:10am
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Guys. I spoke with the dealer and they are workign with me to have the problem resolved - just like I knew they would. I only...
Guys. I spoke with the dealer and they are workign with me to have the problem resolved - just like I knew they would.

I only posted here because I wanted to know if anyone else may have had similar issues and if so, then I was eager to hear of their resolution. KTM is a great company and I never doubted that this would eventually be resolved..

Thanks for those that posted with their support! I'll let you all know what the outcome of all of this is.
best luck with your new ktmUnsure
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adamdf wrote:
HI guys, My new 2017 KTM 450 SXF locked up at the track ttoday with less than 2 hours on the hour meter. It felt like...
HI guys,

My new 2017 KTM 450 SXF locked up at the track ttoday with less than 2 hours on the hour meter. It felt like something in the engine just "let go" and it happened while under power, thank God it wasn't on the face of a jump....I am wondering if anyone else has had this issue and what was your experience like with KTM?

Thanks in advance for your feedback!
I have experienced the same issue. It is crazy how we are disciplined to accept these issues. Our plight was with a 2020 xc250f. Cam oil passage became clogged by something from within the engine. KTM dealer says we must have put dirt in the engine during an oil change. Please!! I want to spend 9k on a bike to have it sit in a shop for two months and incur a $2000 repair bill. There are way to many of these bikes failing. This is either a design flaw or a quality control issue. I accept things fail but come on guys!!
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adamdf wrote:
HI guys, My new 2017 KTM 450 SXF locked up at the track ttoday with less than 2 hours on the hour meter. It felt like...
HI guys,

My new 2017 KTM 450 SXF locked up at the track ttoday with less than 2 hours on the hour meter. It felt like something in the engine just "let go" and it happened while under power, thank God it wasn't on the face of a jump....I am wondering if anyone else has had this issue and what was your experience like with KTM?

Thanks in advance for your feedback!
elvis111 wrote:
I have experienced the same issue. It is crazy how we are disciplined to accept these issues. Our plight was with a 2020 xc250f. Cam oil...
I have experienced the same issue. It is crazy how we are disciplined to accept these issues. Our plight was with a 2020 xc250f. Cam oil passage became clogged by something from within the engine. KTM dealer says we must have put dirt in the engine during an oil change. Please!! I want to spend 9k on a bike to have it sit in a shop for two months and incur a $2000 repair bill. There are way to many of these bikes failing. This is either a design flaw or a quality control issue. I accept things fail but come on guys!!
Bro, thread is 5 years old...
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adamdf wrote:
HI guys, My new 2017 KTM 450 SXF locked up at the track ttoday with less than 2 hours on the hour meter. It felt like...
HI guys,

My new 2017 KTM 450 SXF locked up at the track ttoday with less than 2 hours on the hour meter. It felt like something in the engine just "let go" and it happened while under power, thank God it wasn't on the face of a jump....I am wondering if anyone else has had this issue and what was your experience like with KTM?

Thanks in advance for your feedback!
elvis111 wrote:
I have experienced the same issue. It is crazy how we are disciplined to accept these issues. Our plight was with a 2020 xc250f. Cam oil...
I have experienced the same issue. It is crazy how we are disciplined to accept these issues. Our plight was with a 2020 xc250f. Cam oil passage became clogged by something from within the engine. KTM dealer says we must have put dirt in the engine during an oil change. Please!! I want to spend 9k on a bike to have it sit in a shop for two months and incur a $2000 repair bill. There are way to many of these bikes failing. This is either a design flaw or a quality control issue. I accept things fail but come on guys!!
BobPA wrote:
Bro, thread is 5 years old...
Lol yes and the same thing is still happening
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