Caleb Ward - Aussie at Glen Helen

I was interested to see how he would go. 1st Moto mid pack start got going late and reeled off some guys. I believe best lap on lap 8. He was 7 secs a lap off the pace in qualifying race. Than reduced that to 4 secs off in Moto 1.

Moo 2 he got landed on and bike broke. But I believe he would of improved again.

I hope he gets given another shot at an international race. A sand one would be really good considering he is better in the sand than hardpack
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9/12/2016 5:12am
Think if there was 40 guys on gate would of not scored a point. ..
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9/12/2016 5:17am
It happens every all the time, an aussie goes overseas to race and it's always a huge reality check. We really need better tracks and to grow the sport here before we even think of producing another chad reed.
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9/12/2016 5:59am Edited Date/Time 9/12/2016 6:18am
The thing is, to get out there into the Big Wide World - not stagnate in OZ / Un Zud racing. Of course, it's not easy, for Aussies or Kiwis. , it's a long way away, wherever you choose to go. If you're a Motocrosser, GPs are the go - SX tickles your fancy?, well the USA beckons.

At least he's having a go - good on him!

Having said that, I'm happy that a few riders can make a living here racing (for a country with less than a 13th / 14th of the population of the US, we have pretty much a 5th of their bike sales, consistently) , but getting out of your comfort zone is the way forward, if you want to further your career.
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9/12/2016 6:05am
I expect Glen Helen is a pretty intimidating place to enter your first GP (or National). You can tell some of the regular GP riders even find the place a bit overwhelming. Probably wasn't easy for him.

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9/12/2016 6:22am
fanger wrote:
It happens every all the time, an aussie goes overseas to race and it's always a huge reality check. We really need better tracks and to...
It happens every all the time, an aussie goes overseas to race and it's always a huge reality check. We really need better tracks and to grow the sport here before we even think of producing another chad reed.
Hunter and Jett Lawrence just got mad
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There are a few guys who are capable of racing in MX2 World Championship. Jed Beaton and Nathan Crawford (MX2).
9/12/2016 4:57pm
Just so you are all a little more informed ..Caleb arrived in the US on Monday and was only a couple of seconds off the top 250 riders times in practice at Pala on Tuesday before casing a huge jump and damaging his ankle badly,he basically spent the rest of the week at the doctors getting tests and treatment and trying get the swelling down,he was not able to even walk the track on Friday due to it but was determined not to waste the opportunity he had been given.The Alpinestars medical team strapped it up and gave him some painkillers so he could actually race.If you look closely at his time sheets his times each lap were bad in the section with the jumps due to the pain on landing each time.Caleb is the ultimate good sportsman and did not complain once and just got out there and gave it a go
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9/12/2016 5:54pm
I think there should be a GP in Aus
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Chonnie71 wrote:
Just so you are all a little more informed ..Caleb arrived in the US on Monday and was only a couple of seconds off the top...
Just so you are all a little more informed ..Caleb arrived in the US on Monday and was only a couple of seconds off the top 250 riders times in practice at Pala on Tuesday before casing a huge jump and damaging his ankle badly,he basically spent the rest of the week at the doctors getting tests and treatment and trying get the swelling down,he was not able to even walk the track on Friday due to it but was determined not to waste the opportunity he had been given.The Alpinestars medical team strapped it up and gave him some painkillers so he could actually race.If you look closely at his time sheets his times each lap were bad in the section with the jumps due to the pain on landing each time.Caleb is the ultimate good sportsman and did not complain once and just got out there and gave it a go
There you go - a young bloke pulling his finger out, and having a go.

Better than staying at home, and thinking you are a something.

Bummer he hurt himself. Hope he can keep at his efforts to move on from the home shores.
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9/12/2016 9:02pm
He should have moved to Europe when he was hunters lawrences age. Caleb Ward is a good talent
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9/13/2016 1:48am Edited Date/Time 9/13/2016 3:06am
fanger wrote:
It happens every all the time, an aussie goes overseas to race and it's always a huge reality check. We really need better tracks and to...
It happens every all the time, an aussie goes overseas to race and it's always a huge reality check. We really need better tracks and to grow the sport here before we even think of producing another chad reed.
Why? we did not have better tracks when Reed, Byrne, McFarlane and Metty all made their way onto the world stage.

Take our Off-Road series as another good example, our AORC does not look anything like the World Enduro Championship or the GNCC, yet we are producing a ton of world class Enduro talent at the moment.

We don't have any big navigational desert races in Aus now the safari is gone, the Condo 750 is pretty much it, yet Toby Price won Dakar on his second outing.

The talent will rise and step us as they move up if they are good enough.

There is one thing Reed, Byrne, McFarlane and Metty all had in common, great riders who left young and did not come back, they stuck at it.

Maybe it is harder to do that now, maybe the same opportunities are no longer available, maybe they are and riders need to push more?

Caleb is a great rider, if he was able to somehow head to either Europe or the U.S and have the support to stick it out for a couple of years he would make the next step, kid has done nothing but prove people wrong over the past few years in Aus.
9/13/2016 2:38am
100% truth there. As chad recently said that aussie guys shouldnt just want to be aussie champ they should be striving to be world/ama champ.

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MXMattii wrote:
There are a few guys who are capable of racing in MX2 World Championship. Jed Beaton and Nathan Crawford (MX2).
Throw Ward in that Group Matti as well as Rykers and Wilson Todd.

It was a bummer the Crawford was injured at the final round of the Aussie title, all three of them going at it would have been epic.

Beaton and Ward were in a class of their own out there, only Wilson Todd and Rykers were able to run their pace (He crashed in moto one, he needs to head to the U.S or Europe ASAP as well, young and fast as well as Jayden Rykers)

Beaton and Ward were seperated by 3 seconds at the end of the moto, Rykers (First year in MX2 I am pretty sure) was third 53 seconds further back. Watched the race through a view finder, Rykers may have also had a crash.

Race two Beaton by three seconds from Todd, then Ward and Rykers just behind, then another 40 seconds back to the rest. And the rest are pretty handy riders.

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9/13/2016 4:11am
Do they have the training facilities in Europe that they do in the US? Seems to me it would be really hard to crack the US now as riders are moving to training facilities at a younger age now. If they don't have the same level of training facilities in Europe I would think going to the gp's might put the Aussie's on a more even footing
9/15/2016 11:01pm
MXMattii wrote:
There are a few guys who are capable of racing in MX2 World Championship. Jed Beaton and Nathan Crawford (MX2).
Aaryn234 wrote:
Throw Ward in that Group Matti as well as Rykers and Wilson Todd. It was a bummer the Crawford was injured at the final round of...
Throw Ward in that Group Matti as well as Rykers and Wilson Todd.

It was a bummer the Crawford was injured at the final round of the Aussie title, all three of them going at it would have been epic.

Beaton and Ward were in a class of their own out there, only Wilson Todd and Rykers were able to run their pace (He crashed in moto one, he needs to head to the U.S or Europe ASAP as well, young and fast as well as Jayden Rykers)

Beaton and Ward were seperated by 3 seconds at the end of the moto, Rykers (First year in MX2 I am pretty sure) was third 53 seconds further back. Watched the race through a view finder, Rykers may have also had a crash.

Race two Beaton by three seconds from Todd, then Ward and Rykers just behind, then another 40 seconds back to the rest. And the rest are pretty handy riders.

yeah, i'm not too sure how any of those riders would stack up in mx2 world champs, seem to remember Styke decimating the aussie series then blown away in europe. Not to mention Clout aswell, did real good in Aus but 20th place guy in the ama
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9/16/2016 3:01am
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yeah, i'm not too sure how any of those riders would stack up in mx2 world champs, seem to remember Styke decimating the aussie series then...
yeah, i'm not too sure how any of those riders would stack up in mx2 world champs, seem to remember Styke decimating the aussie series then blown away in europe. Not to mention Clout aswell, did real good in Aus but 20th place guy in the ama
Style really surprised me, not sure if he wasn't on a top flight team or struggled with the lifestyle but I thought for sure he'd be top 10. He didnt kick on like I thought he would last year either, and then write this year off completely.

Clout was lucky enough he got the two year deal, hopefully he can get healthy in the off season cause he had decent sx speed.

Hunter Lawrence could be the real deal though, and with a decent sx series again now that the juniors can get a start in we may see some more top flight talent.

The common denominator when reed metty and Byrne came through was the sx masters that they cut there teeth in and the desire to move up fast. None of this 2-3 years in under 19's rubbish. Ride with the best you can and sink or swim I say.
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9/16/2016 6:53am
Stoop wrote:
yeah, i'm not too sure how any of those riders would stack up in mx2 world champs, seem to remember Styke decimating the aussie series then...
yeah, i'm not too sure how any of those riders would stack up in mx2 world champs, seem to remember Styke decimating the aussie series then blown away in europe. Not to mention Clout aswell, did real good in Aus but 20th place guy in the ama
haydos25 wrote:
Style really surprised me, not sure if he wasn't on a top flight team or struggled with the lifestyle but I thought for sure he'd be...
Style really surprised me, not sure if he wasn't on a top flight team or struggled with the lifestyle but I thought for sure he'd be top 10. He didnt kick on like I thought he would last year either, and then write this year off completely.

Clout was lucky enough he got the two year deal, hopefully he can get healthy in the off season cause he had decent sx speed.

Hunter Lawrence could be the real deal though, and with a decent sx series again now that the juniors can get a start in we may see some more top flight talent.

The common denominator when reed metty and Byrne came through was the sx masters that they cut there teeth in and the desire to move up fast. None of this 2-3 years in under 19's rubbish. Ride with the best you can and sink or swim I say.
Your last line is it. Ride the top series straight away.
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9/16/2016 10:31am
100% truth there. As chad recently said that aussie guys shouldnt just want to be aussie champ they should be striving to be world/ama champ.

This
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haydos25 wrote:
Style really surprised me, not sure if he wasn't on a top flight team or struggled with the lifestyle but I thought for sure he'd be...
Style really surprised me, not sure if he wasn't on a top flight team or struggled with the lifestyle but I thought for sure he'd be top 10. He didnt kick on like I thought he would last year either, and then write this year off completely.

Clout was lucky enough he got the two year deal, hopefully he can get healthy in the off season cause he had decent sx speed.

Hunter Lawrence could be the real deal though, and with a decent sx series again now that the juniors can get a start in we may see some more top flight talent.

The common denominator when reed metty and Byrne came through was the sx masters that they cut there teeth in and the desire to move up fast. None of this 2-3 years in under 19's rubbish. Ride with the best you can and sink or swim I say.
Luke Styke got signed by the wrong team at the wrong time. Also I heard he was pretty stubborn (stayed training like he did, but Aussie series raced short motos back then). But the team wasn't without fault either. I mean after he left, I asked one of the team owners why it didn't worked out, was it a situation about homesickness? And he answered: "Don't think so, that would surprise me. I mean his girlfriend was with him." I mean it doesn't matter who's with you if you miss your mom, dad, your home track, usual routine. But yeah wrong team, wrong time, and maybe a bit to old.

Luke Clout started great in Supercross Lites, he qualified in his first races, directly for the main events, but then broke his femur. And coming back from that isn't easy. A broken femur also made Aussie Dean Ferris lose his momentum in the MX1 (MXGP) class and lose his position with Husqvarna.

The biggest prospects in Aussie MX are at the moment Nathen Crawford and Jed Beaton I think. But Caleb Ward can ride a bike also! (But off course I check figures, races on livestream,... I'm not in Aussieland to check the races out. Too bad.)
9/16/2016 3:51pm
Well as Already posted, Caleb with a fractured ankle pre Glen Helen. I had heard from when he hurt it at Pala practicing. Bummer it is worst than thought.

@MXMatti - You have mentioned that Beaton and Crawford being hottest property. I am a bit biased as I know the guy. But The Kid was supposed to race another year in Amateur, but wanted to go Pro right away, making a difference in his ride. Skipped under19's (again wasn't recommended) Rocked up at the nationals in 2014 and won the most races however didn't have hard pack down yet as he was more a sand rider. 2015 Won the most races again but was hurt for 2 rounds. This year Tied for most overalls and had 1 mechanical dnf.

Beaton won the championship fair and square. But how would you put him behind those guys in talent? He technically wasn't supposed to join the class until this year I believe.
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9/16/2016 3:59pm
100% truth there. As chad recently said that aussie guys shouldnt just want to be aussie champ they should be striving to be world/ama champ.

The system in Australia is a big problem, the young guys are told they should aim to win the u19's then mx2 then mx1. It's garbage, Reed went straight to 250's (mx1) when he was 16.

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