Uppers and Downers from those who attended MXGP Charlotte

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9/4/2016 1:17pm
Oh yea - another downer would be the clueless dude doing the announcing. Did they seriously not have a meeting to go over how to pronounce...
Oh yea - another downer would be the clueless dude doing the announcing. Did they seriously not have a meeting to go over how to pronounce riders names?? "Antonio Cary-oli" ??? It was like the motocross version of that Key & Peele substitute teacher skit..

Roman "Fev" ??? Is Fevre actually pronounced "Fev"?? Really thought it was pronounced Fev-ra
More like 'Fair-v'
9/4/2016 1:46pm
watching the highlights and the race does not do justice how loud the crowd was for cooper and Austin. especially when cooper went by both herlings and forkner. there were some serious US fans in attendance and it was awesome! great event

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9/4/2016 5:27pm Edited Date/Time 9/4/2016 5:30pm
DonM wrote:
The crowd wasn't bad. The lighting live looked sketchy seemed to have a lot of shadows and dark spots that didn't show up on the coverage...Cooper...
The crowd wasn't bad. The lighting live looked sketchy seemed to have a lot of shadows and dark spots that didn't show up on the coverage...Cooper rounded the first turn 3rd from last...And re-watching the coverage confirmed what I though I saw on the start, typical Euro start tactic from Herlings that caused Webb's bad start....he came over on Webb and cut across to the right by about 20 ft to cut him off.
maybe watch MX2 race 1.... if you can take those blinkers off for a second. It happens in every race, by riders from BOTH sides of the Atlantic

Now you see Herlings...

Now you don't..... (and that's Forkner blocking him, who started 2 over from him originally)
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9/4/2016 5:33pm
That event from a tv spectators perspective was pretty awesome and I purchased the MXGP tv package to watch it. I wonder tv sales they got because of this 1 event
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DonM wrote:
The crowd wasn't bad. The lighting live looked sketchy seemed to have a lot of shadows and dark spots that didn't show up on the coverage...Cooper...
The crowd wasn't bad. The lighting live looked sketchy seemed to have a lot of shadows and dark spots that didn't show up on the coverage...Cooper rounded the first turn 3rd from last...And re-watching the coverage confirmed what I though I saw on the start, typical Euro start tactic from Herlings that caused Webb's bad start....he came over on Webb and cut across to the right by about 20 ft to cut him off.
ayearinmx wrote:
maybe watch MX2 race 1.... if you can take those blinkers off for a second. It happens in every race, by riders from BOTH sides of...
maybe watch MX2 race 1.... if you can take those blinkers off for a second. It happens in every race, by riders from BOTH sides of the Atlantic

Now you see Herlings...

Now you don't..... (and that's Forkner blocking him, who started 2 over from him originally)
Looks like Herlings trying to duck into the inside of them?
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9/4/2016 6:04pm
Best race I've seen in a LONG time, the mxgp folks put on a good show. I didn't like that you couldn't get to the podium or around the track without paying extra for paddock pass. I also didn't like how you couldn't hear the rider interviews after the motos. Other than that it was a good show. After I watched that duche Malin making excuses once again for GP guys it made me sick to my stomach though. To bad they have someone like him that's obviously got a chip on his shoulder comentating the races.
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9/4/2016 6:06pm
The track was a lot better in person trust me. Great time..
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9/4/2016 6:07pm
OP
Do you think any spectators went home disapointed with the event? Value for money?

Excluding the bad weather.
9/4/2016 7:18pm
As someone that lives an hour away from the track, I thought it was awesome!
Positives: High level of racing with fresh faces
Track design was spot on given space to work in
Soil condition was amazing! I didn't see it Friday, but not ridding it paid off
Ticket prices were fair, My wife and I enjoyed cruising the whole facility just soaking it all in.
A great us vs them atmosphere
Having some of our us talent show up
Watching them rip through turns one/two into the rollers. Bad Fast!
Huge Cooper crowd
Very cool to see our teams take in the foreigners

Negatives: Would have traveled further for a more national style track.
Every foreigner I spoke with had almost the same answer when asked what they thought. Track was better then expected but still looked very stadium/super-cross. Couldn't wait to get to Glen Helen.
Venue would be better suited for a Energy cup or SX race, but would need to be spruced up. Like others here have mentioned, felt like you were at a practice track as far as presentation goes.
Announcer was horrible. Nowhere near enough talk about our guests and general on track activity. Lacked that Monster Energy SX feel
No rider interviews. WTF
Bleachers were not built for people that are 6'3"!
Could not see the TV well enough to read rider positions. Needed a timing pole at the least. (We sat right in front of finish line)
Empty gates at an event like this was disappointing
AC's crash. Just a shame.
It cost less then an SX race so not having all the SX flare was ok, but I do think the GP needs to be held at a outdoor type venue for us east coasters. I would love to see an east cost Energy Cup here, I bet it would be sporty!
We'll be going next year!

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9/4/2016 8:49pm
Anyone who didn't attend this race missed out IMO as I've been to two nationals and Atlanta supercross this year and this by far was on another level as far as I'm concerned!! To actually get to see the riders from across the pond go at it with a few of our elite was worth the price of admission!! The track to me was perfect for viewing as you could look at several different battles going on at any moment and call it supercross if ya want but 1:45 plus lap times are more like outdoor times to me and regardless of opinions on tracks you still got to see some of the best racers in the world go fast as hell for 2- 30+2 motos and trust me when coop ran JH down the place was on fire and that was one of the loudest and most into it crowds I've seen this year including nationals and supercross!!! Pits were run extremely well with everyone walking around chatting with riders, team managers and people in business!! I spoke with jmb and it was just a cool experience!! As stated before, anytime you can bring these riders together in an event it's the fans that win and I most certainly will be there if they do this again and hope to see all the vital mx brols ther too raising hell when our boys step up again!!
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DonM wrote:
The crowd wasn't bad. The lighting live looked sketchy seemed to have a lot of shadows and dark spots that didn't show up on the coverage...Cooper...
The crowd wasn't bad. The lighting live looked sketchy seemed to have a lot of shadows and dark spots that didn't show up on the coverage...Cooper rounded the first turn 3rd from last...And re-watching the coverage confirmed what I though I saw on the start, typical Euro start tactic from Herlings that caused Webb's bad start....he came over on Webb and cut across to the right by about 20 ft to cut him off.
ayearinmx wrote:
maybe watch MX2 race 1.... if you can take those blinkers off for a second. It happens in every race, by riders from BOTH sides of...
maybe watch MX2 race 1.... if you can take those blinkers off for a second. It happens in every race, by riders from BOTH sides of the Atlantic

Now you see Herlings...

Now you don't..... (and that's Forkner blocking him, who started 2 over from him originally)
Maybe I should say typical GP start setup that favors the inside gate way to much...which causes this...Relax my friend..,
9/5/2016 12:21am Edited Date/Time 9/5/2016 12:23am
mark1960 wrote:
OP
Do you think any spectators went home disapointed with the event? Value for money?

Excluding the bad weather.
Disappointed?? No way mate, the exact opposite! Beyond exceeded my expectations. I'm a local and was VERY skeptical of the event being at this venue from the initial announcement.. I got there and was shocked at how to compared to what I had in my mind going into it.

Other than people who made the drive for nothing on Friday; I don't think anyone was put off by the weather - The racing weather was BEAUTIFUL on Saturday. It's been the second hottest summer on record here, so to have the cooler temps but still full sunshine; couldn't of asked for better weather or conditions

ET3 riding to the win was one thing; but having our local boy Cooper put on such a smashing performance - It was a very special race to be a part of

+1 on the TV or photos really not do the track justice. I saw photos before arriving; but when I actually saw it in person, I literally said wow!!
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Disappointed?? No way mate, the exact opposite! Beyond exceeded my expectations. I'm a local and was VERY skeptical of the event being at this venue from...
Disappointed?? No way mate, the exact opposite! Beyond exceeded my expectations. I'm a local and was VERY skeptical of the event being at this venue from the initial announcement.. I got there and was shocked at how to compared to what I had in my mind going into it.

Other than people who made the drive for nothing on Friday; I don't think anyone was put off by the weather - The racing weather was BEAUTIFUL on Saturday. It's been the second hottest summer on record here, so to have the cooler temps but still full sunshine; couldn't of asked for better weather or conditions

ET3 riding to the win was one thing; but having our local boy Cooper put on such a smashing performance - It was a very special race to be a part of

+1 on the TV or photos really not do the track justice. I saw photos before arriving; but when I actually saw it in person, I literally said wow!!
fully agree with all of this F150Motocrosser... very good race and event
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9/5/2016 7:20am
So, just wondering how riders like Russell Lineman and Austin Root got to race the MX2 class? Both are Americans, and I saw Lineman out there the second moto (#199), and I think he got lapped three our four times....

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9/5/2016 7:31am
Basically, if you had a pro license and were willing to pay the $2500 or whatever it was entry fee. You got a spot on the gate. Most of the "extra" American riders I saw there were guys that have little to no chance of ever making a SX night show or a national gate. Can't blame them for wanting to be a part of this. Likely the highlight of their pro careers getting to line up for those motos. All of the other "fly away" GP rounds also have local gate fillers that continuously get lapped by the regular field.
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Yea, very small gates... I understand euro privateers not spending the money to come all the way over this late in the series; but I would've...
Yea, very small gates... I understand euro privateers not spending the money to come all the way over this late in the series; but I would've thought more Americans would've wanted to get on the gate; guys like Nathan LaPorte



Seeing all the shipping containers evey team had made me stop and think about allllllll the logistics involved in international racing. Mind blowing how many people it must take
Just read on LaPorte's Facebook that he was one spot out of the points until he got a flat tire with four laps to go. Would have been awesome to see the local boy get a world championship point. Saw him at a local practice track on Wednesday and didn't think he'd even be there as he does most if not all the races out of his van.
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Bad Billy wrote:
So, just wondering how riders like Russell Lineman and Austin Root got to race the MX2 class? Both are Americans, and I saw Lineman out there...
So, just wondering how riders like Russell Lineman and Austin Root got to race the MX2 class? Both are Americans, and I saw Lineman out there the second moto (#199), and I think he got lapped three our four times....

Austin Root was running 11th at one point I believe so I'm assuming he had a bike issue, as for getting a spot, that should not be too hard considering there wasn't a full gate so if you show, you go I guess.
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Lo1. Beer sales in the pits ? Insane, and I enjoyed it. 2. Suzuki team has, by far, the bestest tool boxes. 3. SOMEBODY find me a fresh, paying gig taking crappy pics or writing nonsense in this sport, please ? 4. ABSOLUTELY a tremendously fun and wonderful event, part local fair-race/ Supercross/ MXDN and hybrid GP/AMA circus - I ******* adored the entire show, 5. I couldn't have designed a better track, although I'd add a Herlings sand section.... 6. EVERYBODY i conversed with was excited and double super pumped about this dealio and its future. 7. LIGHTING could be better, much better,,,, 8. No lines at beer n food. 9. While crowd was reported at 15,500 - I counted about 8,457. 10. Stands half to two-thirds capacity, next year full, me thinks, 11.Celebs ? DAMON BRADSHAW, some Nascar dudes, Ralph Shaheen, Danny LaPorte, JMB, Big Donny from FMF, Josh Hill, Malcolm Stewart, All the Youthstream brass, Budds Creeks Jon Beasley, and a bunch of high-falutin' chicks with long legs and what not.12. HOTELS, restaurants and camping very closeby, excellent cellphone service...

I have three thumbs up, waaaaay up !ts of you have already stated things that I agree with, regarding this dealio, but here's my rant from my photo blast:
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All positives for me. Ripping laps on a GP track with Damon Bradshaw .... Bucket list!
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I asked three random fans if they thought the track was SX MX or hybrid?

All three answered MX.

Personally the first turn (sweeper) and the long section leading into the wave section were my two favorite parts of the track.

The PA system didn't cover the entire facility but I'm hoping that will be rectified by the next event. When I could hear Rob Buydos he was doing a great job.
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9/5/2016 9:22am Edited Date/Time 9/5/2016 9:23am
Yea, very small gates... I understand euro privateers not spending the money to come all the way over this late in the series; but I would've...
Yea, very small gates... I understand euro privateers not spending the money to come all the way over this late in the series; but I would've thought more Americans would've wanted to get on the gate; guys like Nathan LaPorte



Seeing all the shipping containers evey team had made me stop and think about allllllll the logistics involved in international racing. Mind blowing how many people it must take
mx836 wrote:
Just read on LaPorte's Facebook that he was one spot out of the points until he got a flat tire with four laps to go. Would...
Just read on LaPorte's Facebook that he was one spot out of the points until he got a flat tire with four laps to go. Would have been awesome to see the local boy get a world championship point. Saw him at a local practice track on Wednesday and didn't think he'd even be there as he does most if not all the races out of his van.


Danny is such a cool guy and the fire still burns big time in Donnie Sr.
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Somebody mentioned open gates and yeah, I agree, it looks silly, give some privateers a little cash and fill those gates next time. Absolutely ludicrous when we have vacant gates, Looks unprofessional and makes me slam beer cans against my forehead.

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Bad Billy wrote:
So, just wondering how riders like Russell Lineman and Austin Root got to race the MX2 class? Both are Americans, and I saw Lineman out there...
So, just wondering how riders like Russell Lineman and Austin Root got to race the MX2 class? Both are Americans, and I saw Lineman out there the second moto (#199), and I think he got lapped three our four times....

RCB33 wrote:
Austin Root was running 11th at one point I believe so I'm assuming he had a bike issue, as for getting a spot, that should not...
Austin Root was running 11th at one point I believe so I'm assuming he had a bike issue, as for getting a spot, that should not be too hard considering there wasn't a full gate so if you show, you go I guess.
Austin Root is a local Charlotte rider just starting in the Pro ranks. He ran in the top 15 much of both motos. He has raced at LL 6 times with a 5th in 450B



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Rupert X wrote:
Somebody mentioned open gates and yeah, I agree, it looks silly, give some privateers a little cash and fill those gates next time. Absolutely ludicrous when...
Somebody mentioned open gates and yeah, I agree, it looks silly, give some privateers a little cash and fill those gates next time. Absolutely ludicrous when we have vacant gates, Looks unprofessional and makes me slam beer cans against my forehead.

Am I remembering correctly but aren't GP's a 30 man Moto?
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If they would pay out prize money and made it worthwhile for the whole field then maybe you would fill the 40 gates and get way...
If they would pay out prize money and made it worthwhile for the whole field then maybe you would fill the 40 gates and get way more privateers to race.
I agree.....why show up as a privateer when there is zero purse money.
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Yea, very small gates... I understand euro privateers not spending the money to come all the way over this late in the series; but I would've...
Yea, very small gates... I understand euro privateers not spending the money to come all the way over this late in the series; but I would've thought more Americans would've wanted to get on the gate; guys like Nathan LaPorte



Seeing all the shipping containers evey team had made me stop and think about allllllll the logistics involved in international racing. Mind blowing how many people it must take
mx836 wrote:
Just read on LaPorte's Facebook that he was one spot out of the points until he got a flat tire with four laps to go. Would...
Just read on LaPorte's Facebook that he was one spot out of the points until he got a flat tire with four laps to go. Would have been awesome to see the local boy get a world championship point. Saw him at a local practice track on Wednesday and didn't think he'd even be there as he does most if not all the races out of his van.
The Rock wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/09/05/150270/s1200_image.jpg[/img] Danny is such a cool guy and the fire still burns big time in Donnie Sr.


Danny is such a cool guy and the fire still burns big time in Donnie Sr.
I was actually talking about Nathen LaPorte, not Danny. Wink
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lumpy790 wrote:
Am I remembering correctly but aren't GP's a 30 man Moto?
It was 30 some years ago, but not anymore
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Bad Billy wrote:
So, just wondering how riders like Russell Lineman and Austin Root got to race the MX2 class? Both are Americans, and I saw Lineman out there...
So, just wondering how riders like Russell Lineman and Austin Root got to race the MX2 class? Both are Americans, and I saw Lineman out there the second moto (#199), and I think he got lapped three our four times....

RCB33 wrote:
Austin Root was running 11th at one point I believe so I'm assuming he had a bike issue, as for getting a spot, that should not...
Austin Root was running 11th at one point I believe so I'm assuming he had a bike issue, as for getting a spot, that should not be too hard considering there wasn't a full gate so if you show, you go I guess.
lumpy790 wrote:
Austin Root is a local Charlotte rider just starting in the Pro ranks. He ran in the top 15 much of both motos. He has raced...
Austin Root is a local Charlotte rider just starting in the Pro ranks. He ran in the top 15 much of both motos. He has raced at LL 6 times with a 5th in 450B



Well how he got in because if you have A License in your federation you can race MX2 i believe it's kinda messed up because there were a lot kids in the mxgp and mx2 class that were so off the pace that made it dangerous for the other riders. I feel like my brother was kinda on passed for the other riders and not dangerous for other riders but Russell Lineman was literally 20.152 seconds off leader best lap and my brother was 06.759 off forkners timed practice lap time.
In the race my brother Dnf both motos we tried to run a different ignition setting on bike just wasn't working right both races, he was running in 7th first lap and 6th 2nd moto and made passes to get there and not just a start but fell back after 1:30 because the bike ignition and fuel were not mixing well . lumpy790 yeah he's got 3rd this year in 250 A/b all star class and he was leading the 2nd moto till flat tire finished 6th, Last moto he got 2nd.

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