Dealing with some kind of nerve damage.

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Inversion, ice and loose hamstrings are our backs best friends.
Generally this is right but not always. Inversion separates the vertebrae and creates a sort of vacuum in the discs helping to decrease any herniation's/bulges; it also helps stretch and loosen tight lumbar (low back) muscles if done correctly. However, If you have an acutely inflamed disc, inversion will fire that thing up like a son o bitch! Ice is mother natures anti-inflammatory and pain killer but if you're just mildly stiff from lactic acid build up, heat won't hurt....but it will hurt, again, if you have anything acutely inflamed. Yes, it's good to stretch and loosen your muscles, but often is the case where people start off with weak and "loose" hams....until they overuse them and they go into spasm. The following is a common muscle imbalance: Weak hams and abs, and overly-tight quads and lumbar muscles. This imbalance tilts the upper pelvis forward causing hyperlordosis (increased curve) of the lumbar spine....consequently that can cause nerve irritation causing all kinds of funky symptoms going on in the lower extremities. A good practice for people with this imbalance is to routinely strengthen the hams and abs, and stretch the quads and lumbar spine; doing this will go a long ways toward stabilizing your core. Problem with this is often people ruin themselves by doing improper exercises.
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I will get the 411 on bee type and advise.

Inversion tables have straps on them so you can adjust from just going horizontal to whatever degree of inversion one is comfortable with. Sometimes just taking a little bit of pressure off will pay dividends.

I used my table daily to keep me out of the inflamed zone then relied upon Vax D for episodes and once every six months whether I needed it or not.

Now I rely upon exercise and inversion since I don't have local access to a Vax D.
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hammertime wrote:
Lyrica! Non narcotic nerve pain blocker. Go on, go off, no withdrawal or addiction crap. Try some 75's or 150's...stuff works and won't put you on...
Lyrica! Non narcotic nerve pain blocker. Go on, go off, no withdrawal or addiction crap. Try some 75's or 150's...stuff works and won't put you on the izzi/Stroupe party train-Smile
With my insurance Neurontin $13. Lyrica $380. I tried lyrica from dr office samples and I'll say it may be a tad better but not $367 a month better.

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Rock....are they honey bee's or something like a yellow jacket? Must be honey bee's since they are dying after? I know them damned yellow jackets will...
Rock....are they honey bee's or something like a yellow jacket? Must be honey bee's since they are dying after? I know them damned yellow jackets will sting you 20 times and fly away smiling after they come in and ninja your ass when you're least suspecting it!
Honey bees. Got acupuncture and four stings today but it wasn't twice as much pain as two. I asked about the question about the bees dying. Jessica said the bees she take are the ones guarding the entrance to the hive as these are oldest nearing the end of their life cycle. These bees only mission in life has been to serve the queen and they work tirelessly until they drop or sting some haole dude.

Will do it four or five more times (next Friday at 9 AM again) then see what transpires over the coming months as I do my best to rehabilitate that calf. Goal is to build muscle and hopefully (doubtful though) get ride of the slight limp I have.

How was your week? How are you symptoms? I've heard gluten free is good for inflammation and I know Tumeric works from personal experience as I've shared previously.

Hope you're getting better and have a nice weekend.
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The Rock wrote:
Inversion, ice and loose hamstrings are our backs best friends.
Motoxdoc wrote:
Generally this is right but not always. Inversion separates the vertebrae and creates a sort of vacuum in the discs helping to decrease any herniation's/bulges; it...
Generally this is right but not always. Inversion separates the vertebrae and creates a sort of vacuum in the discs helping to decrease any herniation's/bulges; it also helps stretch and loosen tight lumbar (low back) muscles if done correctly. However, If you have an acutely inflamed disc, inversion will fire that thing up like a son o bitch! Ice is mother natures anti-inflammatory and pain killer but if you're just mildly stiff from lactic acid build up, heat won't hurt....but it will hurt, again, if you have anything acutely inflamed. Yes, it's good to stretch and loosen your muscles, but often is the case where people start off with weak and "loose" hams....until they overuse them and they go into spasm. The following is a common muscle imbalance: Weak hams and abs, and overly-tight quads and lumbar muscles. This imbalance tilts the upper pelvis forward causing hyperlordosis (increased curve) of the lumbar spine....consequently that can cause nerve irritation causing all kinds of funky symptoms going on in the lower extremities. A good practice for people with this imbalance is to routinely strengthen the hams and abs, and stretch the quads and lumbar spine; doing this will go a long ways toward stabilizing your core. Problem with this is often people ruin themselves by doing improper exercises.
Appreicate the clarification and elaboration on the subject. Particularly the part about quads abs hamstrings. Thank you.
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3/25/2016 6:02pm
The Rock wrote:
Inversion, ice and loose hamstrings are our backs best friends.
Loose hammies improve posture, strength and riding for from head to toe. Rock speaks truth.
What is a good exercise to loosen up the hamstrings?

I am recovering from a badly broken back and have a bit of nerve damage that is slowly healing. The neurosurgeon that did my surgery says the nerves can continue to heal for 18 months or more.

It feels like I have a phantom tail that is on fire.. a cool burning sensation like menthol rather than a hot burning. It has been 9 months now and very slowly improving.

I have damaged nerves before.. when it is a sharp hot burning pain that comes and suddenly goes away, I feel that is a sign of the nerves healing.

If the burning sensation is constant, that is a different story.

To start, you will need good xrays to look at the condition of the vertebrae and discs. Most of us start to have disc problems when we get old, MX or not. While they cant reconnect severed spinal cords yet, they can do wonders with people disc problems.
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8/21/2016 6:03pm Edited Date/Time 8/21/2016 9:37pm


Sorry I missed the hamstring question. YouTube and Google will get you started.

I finished this year's BVT therapy with seven sessions and got up to twelve stings the last two sessions. Went up in increments of two to reach 12. Last two times Jessica stung me in groups of four stings rest for minute or so and continue for a total of twelve stings. Man does it hurt but I'm better now and next year if I need to will repeat it.

Not for the faint of heart but if you have a chronic condition this might be a viable option depending on what part of the country you live in. Some areas like CA I don't believe there are any BVT therapists due to lack of bees there.

Again these are the older guard bees that are at the end of their life cycle. They guard the entrance and guard the queen according to Jessica.


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Getting stung by bees sounds more like a placebo. If your mind thinks you're getting better, you will typically get better.

As someone that has worked with bees in the past, I will tell you their stings never helped heal me.

I'd go to a doctor work on stretching and, getting more motion all around and seeing a therapist before we go hocus pocus.
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8/21/2016 6:23pm Edited Date/Time 8/21/2016 6:25pm
The Rock wrote:
Inversion, ice and loose hamstrings are our backs best friends.
Loose hammies improve posture, strength and riding for from head to toe. Rock speaks truth.
What is a good exercise to loosen up the hamstrings? I am recovering from a badly broken back and have a bit of nerve damage that...
What is a good exercise to loosen up the hamstrings?

I am recovering from a badly broken back and have a bit of nerve damage that is slowly healing. The neurosurgeon that did my surgery says the nerves can continue to heal for 18 months or more.

It feels like I have a phantom tail that is on fire.. a cool burning sensation like menthol rather than a hot burning. It has been 9 months now and very slowly improving.

I have damaged nerves before.. when it is a sharp hot burning pain that comes and suddenly goes away, I feel that is a sign of the nerves healing.

If the burning sensation is constant, that is a different story.

To start, you will need good xrays to look at the condition of the vertebrae and discs. Most of us start to have disc problems when we get old, MX or not. While they cant reconnect severed spinal cords yet, they can do wonders with people disc problems.
"What is a good exercise to loosen up the hamstrings?"

Get your butt into a yoga program AT LEAST a couple times a week.
It will make a huge difference. Give it some time as, just like anything, it
takes a while to get the hang of and improve. Especially as we get older
that flexibility and alignment is so critical.

You can find classes that are not so chanty/spiritual if that's not
your deal. (It's not mine. I'm like "Coach! Shaddap! I just want to stretch!!")
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Not going to read what everyone wrote but listen carefully, you have damaged discs between C5, 6 and 7 vertebrae. Why am I so sure, I've had both discs replaced and you described the exact symptoms, especially the numbness you circled. Trust me
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8/21/2016 9:34pm Edited Date/Time 8/21/2016 9:50pm
Krallang wrote:
Getting stung by bees sounds more like a placebo. If your mind thinks you're getting better, you will typically get better. As someone that has worked...
Getting stung by bees sounds more like a placebo. If your mind thinks you're getting better, you will typically get better.

As someone that has worked with bees in the past, I will tell you their stings never helped heal me.

I'd go to a doctor work on stretching and, getting more motion all around and seeing a therapist before we go hocus pocus.
Making the placebo comment sounds more like you've not taken two minutes to research BVT.

A close friend was attacked by a swarm of bees and his arthritis went away. Jessica Montana my healer just visited and worked with a woman who cured herself of Lyme's disease.

You are welcome to your hocus pocus opinion but historical data just doesn't support it.

Here Jessica's friend is mentioned: A bee sting is an unpleasant experience that undoubtedly everyone would choose to avoid if given the choice. However a growing number of people are choosing to be stung by bees in an alternative form of illness treatment called apitherapy. Apitherapy contends that bee venom holds therapeutic value in treating serious illness and that it is a viable alternative to dangerous pharmaceutical drugs that often do not work and have harmful side effects.

Apitherapy, a traditional folk remedy that has been used in many other countries for centuries, takes advantage of the healing power contained in honeybee venom which helps to alleviate serious conditions like multiple sclerosis, arthritis, and lupus. According to 51-year-old Reyah Carlson of Vermont, a proponent of apitherapy, bee venom helped to treat her Lyme Disease.

Carlson recently spoke at the North American Beekeepers Conference in Orlando where she spoke of the benefits of apitherapy. She regularly travels around the world telling people about the alternative treatment and informing them about how it works to treat disease.

Bee venom contains about 40 different healing components, one of which is melittin, a compound identified in a 2009 Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts study as an anti-inflammatory and anti-arthritic element. According to Carlson, melittin and the other components work together to boost immunity and quicken the healing process.

Besides the two percent of the U.S. population that is allergic to bees, most people stand to benefit from apitherapy treatment. While it may not necessarily cure all conditions, the venom can at least keep diseases at bay without imposing harmful side effects like drugs do. Aside from the temporary pain of the sting itself, there are virtually no other negative side effects from apitherapy.

Many medical professional refuse to acknowledge the benefits of apitherapy. Despite the roughly 65,000 Americans who use and benefit from bee sting therapy, the medical establishment largely rejects it as a viable treatment option. According to Carlson, many doctors believe it is dangerous and could kill people.

Because reactions from bee stings can vary from person to person, Carlson always carries around antihistamines for minor reactions as well as epinephrine for those who may go into anaphylactic shock. Typically no severe reaction should happen in a healthy person who is not allergic to bee stings, but Carlson keeps a safety kit on hand as a precautionary measure and advises others who use or administer the therapy to do so as well.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/028370_apitherapy_bee_stings.html#ixzz4I26kZ…
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I did some nerve damage (ironically playing squash not MX!) in my neck, that caused my whole arm to go numb, couldnt use my arm much when it eventually settled a month later the first finger and thumb was always still numb...even now the first finger still feels different, amazing how much nerve damage can hang around.

I hope it gets better for you soon Jeffro.
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I did some nerve damage (ironically playing squash not MX!) in my neck, that caused my whole arm to go numb, couldnt use my arm much...
I did some nerve damage (ironically playing squash not MX!) in my neck, that caused my whole arm to go numb, couldnt use my arm much when it eventually settled a month later the first finger and thumb was always still numb...even now the first finger still feels different, amazing how much nerve damage can hang around.

I hope it gets better for you soon Jeffro.
Yeah I'm good Kiwi. It's been quite a few months since i made this thread and it's been a good few years since i did the damage. Doesn't bother me in riding or everyday life. Something I'll possibly get fixed later in life.

MotoX85....wouldn't the lower part of my body , the part on my legs be associated more with the " L " section of my spine? Most everything I've read said that's where the nerve endings are.
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8/21/2016 10:01pm Edited Date/Time 8/21/2016 10:10pm
jeffro503 wrote:
Rock....are they honey bee's or something like a yellow jacket? Must be honey bee's since they are dying after? I know them damned yellow jackets will...
Rock....are they honey bee's or something like a yellow jacket? Must be honey bee's since they are dying after? I know them damned yellow jackets will sting you 20 times and fly away smiling after they come in and ninja your ass when you're least suspecting it!
Besides the healing that takes place wait until you experience the buzz (pun intended) when the venom is fully in your system.

It is usually a feeling of serenity and calm I have never experienced naturally. This is a by product of the venom but on the other hand maybe it is the body going "okay I can relax now. I guess the masochist isn't going to sting me today" LOL

EDIT Jeff very glad to hear you are doing better. If you don't have an acupuncturist maybe select one that also does BVT so have that option. BTW someone posted the Find you and sting you meme on FB and that's what made me remember this thread.

Lots of options in your area. Good luck.



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8/21/2016 11:47pm Edited Date/Time 8/22/2016 4:39am
jeffro503 wrote:
So i learned a few things in this thread and am glad for all the advice you guys have given me. I called my Chiropractor today...
So i learned a few things in this thread and am glad for all the advice you guys have given me. I called my Chiropractor today , which has been a long time family friend. He told me it wouldn't hurt to come in and see him but he urged me to get an MRI on my lower back area. He said if the numbing is in my legs that most of the nerve endings for those areas are located in the lower spine and pelvic area.

I'm not sure if i want to spend any time on this right now due to my work schedule and it not bothering me all that much. But I'll have it looked at sooner or later.

Thanks again to you guys who kinda of steered me in the right direction and the helpful advice.
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Jeffro ask Shark about The Osaka Family Chiro Story.

But I have terrible nerve damage in my entire right arm, hand, both shoulders, and both knees. Got my night clavicle in 2005 as the same time as the double compound, as well as a dislocated wrist and elbow. About 14 or so broken. Bones total and severed artery. Internally the spleen ruptures, 4 ribs, a kidney got dislplaced. Looked like a sprinkler coming out my wrist and was haunted even more by the Royal city sand encompassing the bone sticking out in two spots through the jersey it hurt very very little didn't even tear up. Felt like a Charlie horse. And has felt that way since. Just happy to be able to move and hold something really. Motion in wrist isn't much but i tried riding about 18 months later and first jump i hit it went POP and got about 7 more degrees out of it. but by far these abs the second clavicle effect me the most. It feels like I've been riding woodland in the snow all day with no gloves but all day and in a a/c encompassed office. Only sensation I've ever felt are sharp electrical type pain and throbbing heat that itches like poison ivy. Everything else is numb. Made for some interesting HS times tho. Lol. Deodorant can be a pain because I often smash it because i can't feel it applied. Also my knee I did on my right knee 07 playing basketball and that effects me the most awkward when its slack usually getting out of bed. It will dislocated and rather painful but usually snap right up and in as fast as can and it goes back in. One time it didn't it retire the meniscus in bucket tear which physically made it impossible. Got my both my clavicles dialed in in 09 my race since 05 and hit a lapper at horn over the hump corner in middle and the Leatt snapped it clean. Now I need to sleep flat on back with arms crossed tripping on opposite shoulders like a vampire or a corpse. Otherwise I'll wake up in some terrible aches and pains
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Your asking for medical advice on a message board? lol. Actually this is the one place you'll probably get some straight info from guys who have done the exact same thing, but I gotta laugh. (a little)

I haven't even read this thread so I'm sure I'm repeating someone, but Jeffro you know what happened and what it is, you don't need us to reinforce it.

The real question is did you break your neck, or did you just displace it or tweak some ligaments that are manipulating your spine. Could be as simple as a little ROLFing or whatever the hell that is and a few adjustments or as serious as having to re-break your neck, or super gluing a non-union fracture of you vertebrae....J/K - I have no clue what I am talking about other then you need to go get that looked at.

Seriously bro, I know more than a couple people that broke their neck and didn't know it for a day or two. Get an X-ray and make sure you din't break something or that it healed right, then go see a good chiro and get yourself all tuned up, even though you don't feel any deficits your not optimal.
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8/22/2016 9:51pm Edited Date/Time 8/22/2016 9:54pm
Osaka627 wrote:
Jeffro ask Shark about The Osaka Family Chiro Story. But I have terrible nerve damage in my entire right arm, hand, both shoulders, and both knees...
Jeffro ask Shark about The Osaka Family Chiro Story.

But I have terrible nerve damage in my entire right arm, hand, both shoulders, and both knees. Got my night clavicle in 2005 as the same time as the double compound, as well as a dislocated wrist and elbow. About 14 or so broken. Bones total and severed artery. Internally the spleen ruptures, 4 ribs, a kidney got dislplaced. Looked like a sprinkler coming out my wrist and was haunted even more by the Royal city sand encompassing the bone sticking out in two spots through the jersey it hurt very very little didn't even tear up. Felt like a Charlie horse. And has felt that way since. Just happy to be able to move and hold something really. Motion in wrist isn't much but i tried riding about 18 months later and first jump i hit it went POP and got about 7 more degrees out of it. but by far these abs the second clavicle effect me the most. It feels like I've been riding woodland in the snow all day with no gloves but all day and in a a/c encompassed office. Only sensation I've ever felt are sharp electrical type pain and throbbing heat that itches like poison ivy. Everything else is numb. Made for some interesting HS times tho. Lol. Deodorant can be a pain because I often smash it because i can't feel it applied. Also my knee I did on my right knee 07 playing basketball and that effects me the most awkward when its slack usually getting out of bed. It will dislocated and rather painful but usually snap right up and in as fast as can and it goes back in. One time it didn't it retire the meniscus in bucket tear which physically made it impossible. Got my both my clavicles dialed in in 09 my race since 05 and hit a lapper at horn over the hump corner in middle and the Leatt snapped it clean. Now I need to sleep flat on back with arms crossed tripping on opposite shoulders like a vampire or a corpse. Otherwise I'll wake up in some terrible aches and pains
You are hard core. Good on ya.

Friday night Oct 13, 1991 Ascot I busted my collarbone, three ribs and partially collapsed left lung on my CR500 and it was two years before I could sleep on my left side. Wasn't injured as bad as you but am adding this to provide an example we can improve in time albeit slowly.

I think it had too many side effects but Lyrica help some people with nerve pain.

Are you open to alternative medicine like acupuncture?

For inflammation I'm the Tumeric poster boy. Health food stores sell it in capsule form plus anytime you can get Tumeric in a smoothie go for it.

You can a Vital search on Tumeric to find a thread or two. Good luck to you.
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I tripped a little when I read your post and saw which muscle you circled. For awhile now that same muscle on my left side will go from feeling perfect, no pain or sensation at all, to barely being able put any weight on it without warning. It usually happens quick, one minute no problem, bam something happens and I can barely walk. It's a sharp, burning pain that gets worse as I put more weight on it. Needless to say following this thread, and good luck, 3 years is long time to have something not heal on it's own. Edit: Just noticed the dates on this thread. So Jeffro is it still bothering you or did you get it worked out ? If so what was it ?
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sumdood wrote:
I tripped a little when I read your post and saw which muscle you circled. For awhile now that same muscle on my left side will...
I tripped a little when I read your post and saw which muscle you circled. For awhile now that same muscle on my left side will go from feeling perfect, no pain or sensation at all, to barely being able put any weight on it without warning. It usually happens quick, one minute no problem, bam something happens and I can barely walk. It's a sharp, burning pain that gets worse as I put more weight on it. Needless to say following this thread, and good luck, 3 years is long time to have something not heal on it's own. Edit: Just noticed the dates on this thread. So Jeffro is it still bothering you or did you get it worked out ? If so what was it ?
Hey man , yeah both leg's still bug me a bit. Since I made this post a few years ago , I have taken my core strength a little more serious , and try and focus a lot on my lower and mid back. Those two leg muscle's and my neck still bug me from time to time , but mostly when I get myself out of shape and my work schedule beats me up. Even at my age , I'm still trying to learn to not push myself too hard at work , slack off a little , and exercise more. I know this may sound stupid ( like really stupid ) but after a few doctor visit's for other thing's , this is one thing I didn't bring up. I didn't want any bad news , and you know how doctor's are about riding dirt bikes. And honestly , it's something I'll have them look at , later down the road. Working for myself , I can't afford to take the time off for any kind of surgery and so forth. Between my inversion table and exercise , I've been able to maintain it. It comes and goes.
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I don't want to be pessimistic but a problem of nerves is very difficult to heal. Eating a lot of good fat can help.
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I'm going with you have some cord/nerve compression from disc or stenosis. I type this as I sit here in a neck brace recovering from ACDF. You'd be superised at what can happen from the cervical area just from compression.
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Hi Jeffro, I can get you a real good deal on a MRI of your Cervical , Thoracic, Lumbar spine. And a complete x-ray of spine. My office Mission Imaging is in SoCal (San Bernardino).PM me if i can help you.









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Hi Jeffro, I can get you a real good deal on a MRI of your Cervical , Thoracic, Lumbar spine. And a complete x-ray of spine...
Hi Jeffro, I can get you a real good deal on a MRI of your Cervical , Thoracic, Lumbar spine. And a complete x-ray of spine. My office Mission Imaging is in SoCal (San Bernardino).PM me if i can help you.









Thanks man! I really appreciate it. I would take you up on that offer , but I'm not all that close. I actually started this thread about 3 years ago , and since then , some of the day to day pain / burning sensation has subsided a little. It still comes and goes , even though the numbness is pretty much 100% of the time. The feeling in those areas on my upper legs are still pretty numb , and I'm not sure if they are " better "?.....then what they were 3 years ago ( or about 5 years since I had that specific crash ). Which the numbness doesn't really bother me , as long as it doesn't burn or have that itchy feeling that you just can't scratch.
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sumdood wrote:
I tripped a little when I read your post and saw which muscle you circled. For awhile now that same muscle on my left side will...
I tripped a little when I read your post and saw which muscle you circled. For awhile now that same muscle on my left side will go from feeling perfect, no pain or sensation at all, to barely being able put any weight on it without warning. It usually happens quick, one minute no problem, bam something happens and I can barely walk. It's a sharp, burning pain that gets worse as I put more weight on it. Needless to say following this thread, and good luck, 3 years is long time to have something not heal on it's own. Edit: Just noticed the dates on this thread. So Jeffro is it still bothering you or did you get it worked out ? If so what was it ?
jeffro503 wrote:
Hey man , yeah both leg's still bug me a bit. Since I made this post a few years ago , I have taken my core...
Hey man , yeah both leg's still bug me a bit. Since I made this post a few years ago , I have taken my core strength a little more serious , and try and focus a lot on my lower and mid back. Those two leg muscle's and my neck still bug me from time to time , but mostly when I get myself out of shape and my work schedule beats me up. Even at my age , I'm still trying to learn to not push myself too hard at work , slack off a little , and exercise more. I know this may sound stupid ( like really stupid ) but after a few doctor visit's for other thing's , this is one thing I didn't bring up. I didn't want any bad news , and you know how doctor's are about riding dirt bikes. And honestly , it's something I'll have them look at , later down the road. Working for myself , I can't afford to take the time off for any kind of surgery and so forth. Between my inversion table and exercise , I've been able to maintain it. It comes and goes.
Sounds like if we could just go to the gym for a few hours a day and not work we'd be all dialed in. I try to keep up on the exercises they gave me to do while rehabbing my fake hips, and try to stretch before I go to sleep, but when I get real busy all I do is work. Didn't used to bother me but I just turned 60 and it feels like my body is finally tired of my shit. Going to step up my day to day health routine and hopefully what ever is going on in my thigh subsides. Good luck ! Hope you get it figured out and fixed one day, meanwhile I guess it's team Advil...Laughing
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Here’s a reference picture that indicates which part of the spine causes pain in specific parts of the body. This is from a book written by Dr. Uday Doctor (yes, Dr. Doctor!). I’ve worked with him for many years to manage my back pain AND NUMBNESS in my legs in order to avoid surgery.



I would highly recommend trying an inversion table if you have compressed discs that are causing nerve issues like pain and numbness. I paid about $100 for mine several years ago and it does help as long as I use it for 5-10 minutes a day. For $100-$150 it’s worth a shot to avoid pain meds, injections and getting ripped off by the health care system!


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2/9/2019 6:12am Edited Date/Time 2/9/2019 6:13am
Whatever you do, DO NOT GO TO A DOCTOR. Most of their recommendations have been through extensive peer reviewed research and govt regulation. They also do this thing where they study medicine for 10-12 years.

Your best bet is to get advice from an internet forum about motorcycles. Then go to a bee healer. Dont worry, she has a 2 week certificate from Nmoodo Boodo, the Indian shaman. And while your there she also sells essential oils and CBD oil. Try to ignore her chuckling as she takes your hard earned money and then puts a bee down to sting you hairy ass.

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2/12/2019 9:31pm Edited Date/Time 2/12/2019 9:43pm
kage173 wrote:
Whatever you do, DO NOT GO TO A DOCTOR. Most of their recommendations have been through extensive peer reviewed research and govt regulation. They also do...
Whatever you do, DO NOT GO TO A DOCTOR. Most of their recommendations have been through extensive peer reviewed research and govt regulation. They also do this thing where they study medicine for 10-12 years.

Your best bet is to get advice from an internet forum about motorcycles. Then go to a bee healer. Dont worry, she has a 2 week certificate from Nmoodo Boodo, the Indian shaman. And while your there she also sells essential oils and CBD oil. Try to ignore her chuckling as she takes your hard earned money and then puts a bee down to sting you hairy ass.

Holistic medicine is no joke bro. The FDA has its pockets lined with big pharma money and hushes anything that doesn't make big pharma money or makes one of their pills obsolete. There is so much proof out there from legitimate studies of holistic treatments, but our government does a good job of keeping it quiet. They wont let you claim anything helps anything, even with overwhelming academic proof, until they evaluate it, which they wont. You wouldn't believe how many healthy, younger functional/holistic doctors have wound up dead in "accidents" and "suicides". If you think I'm being a conspiracy theorist, look it up. The government feeds us shit, and tells us what a "healthy" diet or chemical is based off of what conglomerates of relevant industries pay them.

For example just look at the "you need milk for strong bones" lie. There is "got milk?" posters all over kids schools and milk is what is served at lunch. Guess what? Nobody needs milk, or dairy at all. It's not healthy. Dairy undoubtedly causes inflammation, and the calcium and nutrients that you can get from dairy, you can get from other, healthier sources in your diet. That is just one example of how what we have been told to eat for the past 100 years is based off of the interests of whoever paid up. Isn't it funny that we are socialized to head to the grocery store for "bread and milk" when a snowstorm is coming through, when in reality we should not be consuming either of those things? In fact, the whole food pyramid and related "recommended diet" is bullshit. There is a reason we are so fucking fat and unhealthy, its not "the american way" or cultural, its the bullshit lies, food, and drugs we are fed. Talk to an american nutritionist then talk to a foreign one. Even what is taught here is fucked.

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