'Making a Murderer' on Netflix - Thoughts?

Olson
Posts
4605
Joined
4/14/2012
Location
SE
1/12/2016 3:37pm
Didn't read through all of the posts in here now (will do later). Just had to share my thoughts after watching through this the last couple of days. This is some of the worst things I've ever witnessed. I truly believe Mr Avery and Dassey is innocent and this is an outrage and shows that the justice system in the states doesn't work. I'm out of words.
Old-Man
Posts
8019
Joined
10/21/2011
Location
Colorado springs, CO, USA
1/13/2016 7:41pm
FlaNard
Posts
3620
Joined
10/13/2009
Location
Layton, UT, USA
1/14/2016 10:47am
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-avery-appeal-lawyer_5697cda8e…

Kathleen Zellner, who claims she's righted more wrongful convictions than any other private attorney in the United States in her 20 years of practice, said this week she has new evidence that will exonerate Avery.

"We are confident Mr. Avery’s conviction will be vacated when we present the new evidence and results of our work to the appropriate court,” she told The New York Times.

It's unclear what that evidence might be; Zellner could not immediately be reached for comment.

The Shop

MR. X
Posts
6913
Joined
6/24/2010
Location
North Tonawanda, NY, USA
1/14/2016 2:07pm
Im watching it now . I'm not believing either one of them. The kid admits to being there and drawing what he saw and then says he made it all up now that he is sitting in a court room .

http://www.innocenceproject.org/cases-false-imprisonment/anthony-capozzi

Heres a real story of being wrongly accused with out it being twisted for ratings.
Uncle Tony
Posts
4149
Joined
6/30/2014
Location
New York, NY, USA
1/14/2016 4:33pm
Who's the hot reporter?
sende
Posts
2394
Joined
1/15/2013
Location
FI
1/14/2016 7:05pm Edited Date/Time 1/16/2016 2:51am
Just finished the last episode. I will only say that this was, by far, the most interesting documentary series that I've ever seen. I can't sleep after this.
sende
Posts
2394
Joined
1/15/2013
Location
FI
1/15/2016 4:41am Edited Date/Time 1/15/2016 4:42am
I agree, the brother and ex-boyfriend had me wondering but if I had to bet, my money would go on Bobby Dassey. That dude is just...
I agree, the brother and ex-boyfriend had me wondering but if I had to bet, my money would go on Bobby Dassey. That dude is just shitty enough to let his little brother fry. I mean come on, the guy got on the stand and basically said Steve admitted to it. Which we all know was probably one of the biggest surprises and lies of the prosecutions case.
This is pretty much what I thought as well.
ebers
Posts
915
Joined
8/21/2008
Location
western, NY, USA
1/20/2016 11:45am
If anyone has the IHeart Radio app, there's a 10 part audio series called "Rebutting a Murderer". Each episode is around 10 minutes long and each episode coincides with the episode of Making a Murderer.

It's pretty interesting and raises a few questions, but I'm still not willing to say Avery or Dassey were guilty beyond a reasonable doubt!
1/20/2016 8:11pm
MR. X wrote:
Im watching it now . I'm not believing either one of them. The kid admits to being there and drawing what he saw and then says...
Im watching it now . I'm not believing either one of them. The kid admits to being there and drawing what he saw and then says he made it all up now that he is sitting in a court room .

http://www.innocenceproject.org/cases-false-imprisonment/anthony-capozzi

Heres a real story of being wrongly accused with out it being twisted for ratings.
Although didn't he draw exactly what anyone would picture as being tied to a bed ? Especially after your being badgered for hours and promised to go back home after he just tells them how she was tied?
1/20/2016 8:12pm
FlaNard wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-avery-appeal-lawyer_5697cda8e4b0ce496423770d Kathleen Zellner, who claims she's righted more wrongful convictions than any other private attorney in the United States in her 20 years of practice, said...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-avery-appeal-lawyer_5697cda8e…

Kathleen Zellner, who claims she's righted more wrongful convictions than any other private attorney in the United States in her 20 years of practice, said this week she has new evidence that will exonerate Avery.

"We are confident Mr. Avery’s conviction will be vacated when we present the new evidence and results of our work to the appropriate court,” she told The New York Times.

It's unclear what that evidence might be; Zellner could not immediately be reached for comment.
If exonerated he's gonna need to disappear. Witness protection. Or something.
MT MX
Posts
1550
Joined
3/5/2011
Location
Great Falls, MT, USA
1/21/2016 10:11am
I've been watching the docu-series this week and think along the lines of many in this forum.
Here are my thoughts/concerns:

- I think there is an extremely, extremely, extremely minimal chance that Avery and Dassey actually did any of this. I honestly don't think either one of them is intelligent enough or organized enough to fulfill what they are being accused of.
- I actually think Bobby, Tadych, or maybe the ex-boyfriend did it.
- Halbach left that Salvage Yard on October 31st and Avery wasn't the last person to see her.
- Lenk and Colburn had something to do with the murder as well. Maybe just an accessory? I think the vehicle was originally found at a different location, with Theresa inside, and Colburn and/or Lenk moved her and the car to frame Steven.They planted the RAV4 at the salvage yard while someone else burned the body at the quarry (possibly Tadych and Bobby).
- That vehicle was placed at the Salvage Yard so it would be found instantly. Period. Why was Theresa's cousin the only one that was given a camera and she was the first and only one to volunteer to go on the Avery's land. Regardless, someone in that search party knew exactly where that car was.
- How was Colburn able to call in Halbach's license plate number on Nov. 3, but she wasn't found for a couple of days later at Avery's. He had those plates in front of his eye's at the time. That is conveniently around the same time frame that the ex-boyfriend hacked into her voicemail.
- Kratz's Press Conferences were way too scripted and informative. He was setting the stage as to what was going to happen. My wife watched some of this with me and was blown away every time Kratz had a press conference and the things (evidence, accusations, etc.) he was shoving down the media's throat. That is not typical by any means.
- I wish some truth or non-truth to the supposed sex club/cult would've been brought up.

Anyways, that whole justice system surrounding this event/Steven Avery was a load of BS. That being said I couldn't believe the number of pieces of evidence that were left out of the documentary. Avery is not an innocent man by any means, but I truly believe he was innocent in the death of Halbach.


Old-Man
Posts
8019
Joined
10/21/2011
Location
Colorado springs, CO, USA
8/3/2016 11:34pm
Anyone else see the show "Murder made me famous" the Steven Avery case.?
They covered all the evidence and a lot more that the movie left out.
I had my reservations that he did it but after this show i'm certain.


8/3/2016 11:51pm
Old-Man wrote:
Anyone else see the show "Murder made me famous" the Steven Avery case.? They covered all the evidence and a lot more that the movie left...
Anyone else see the show "Murder made me famous" the Steven Avery case.?
They covered all the evidence and a lot more that the movie left out.
I had my reservations that he did it but after this show i'm certain.


You're certain he did it?

I haven't seen the new show. What evidence was left out?
Old-Man
Posts
8019
Joined
10/21/2011
Location
Colorado springs, CO, USA
8/4/2016 3:14pm
The makers of that documentary manipulated the audience big time in thinking these two were innocent. They left out crucial proof and edited what was really said when it was said.

Wish I could pull up the story I watched last night because it went through the documentary telling the parts on what was left out of the Making a murderer story.

I had a load of questions after watching "Making a Murderer" but the story I seen last night answered them with detailed proof.
I bet the two people involved in making that story said to themselves. "I bet we can sway the viewers into believing they are innocent" and they were right! just gander at all the posts in this thread, over 85% of them are certain they did not commit the murder.
Just like today's media does to divide the public.
Fricken society is gullible to a point they are ready to set a vicious murderers free. If it weren't for DNA Teresa would be alive today. Sad story because she told her bosses she didn't want to go back to the Avery place because of the events that took place the last time she was there. That wasn't in the Doc. along with many other things that took place before the killing but the Doc took it upon themselves to leave these crucial points out to manipulate the audience which they most certainly did as the petition (Which I never signed) Proves.
Hopefully someone can get a link to the "Murder made me famous" the Steven Avery story and post it here.

This is the closest I could find with not much video
8/4/2016 9:48pm Edited Date/Time 8/4/2016 9:49pm
I'll definitely watch it if I happen to see it on.

I know those guys aren't the brightest bulbs but he things that made me wonder were:

1. With people knowing she was going there, why would they go through so much trouble to get rid of her body and then PARK HER FUCKING CAR ON THE LOT?

2. Where was the DNA, or any forensic evidence, that puts her in the bedroom where she was allegedly raped and had her throat and hair cut?

3. Where was the blood evidence in the garage(that the police went through item by item without finding so much as a speck) where she was allegedly shot a dozen times?

4. The "other" burn site located in the quarry behind the Avery property where her bones were found. Did he start to burn her there and decide he'd rather gather it all up and dump the evidence in his back yard? Or vice-versa?

Also, that Deputy and the former chief of police(and somebody else, I think) were personally on the hook in the lawsuit he was most definitely going to win.
8/4/2016 9:52pm Edited Date/Time 8/4/2016 9:52pm
That's weird. My last wasn't my entire post. It got cut-off and I couldn't even edit and add it back. Oh well.

The people he was suing had motive is what I was saying.

What was his motive?
Old-Man
Posts
8019
Joined
10/21/2011
Location
Colorado springs, CO, USA
8/4/2016 10:06pm
Had 20 more questions like those as well. They answered them.
Like I said they did a good job of manipulating the truth.
Left a lot out of the movie that could have easily been added but then their objective would have been compromised.

Motive? for raping and killing a Woman?
8/4/2016 10:37pm Edited Date/Time 8/4/2016 10:38pm
I guess I'll have to see it.

Motive,....yeah. There's no telling what makes people tick, I know, but it seems a strange way to go in his situation.

He was free, had a girlfriend, was about to be a millionaire...

D O E S N O T C O M P U T E
D O E S N O T C O M P U T E
D O E S N O T C O M P U T E
D O E S N O T C O M P U T E
D O E S N O T C O M P U T E
D O E S N O T C O M P U T E
D O E S N O T C O M P U T E
D O E S N O T C O M P U T E
D O E S N O T C O M P U T E
8/5/2016 8:53am
I happen to be in Manitowoc right now where this happened. My cousins grew up here. I haven't seen it but I want to check it out now.

Man, Wisconsin is white. Much more homogenous that I am used to.
Old-Man
Posts
8019
Joined
10/21/2011
Location
Colorado springs, CO, USA
8/5/2016 10:55am
I happen to be in Manitowoc right now where this happened. My cousins grew up here. I haven't seen it but I want to check it...
I happen to be in Manitowoc right now where this happened. My cousins grew up here. I haven't seen it but I want to check it out now.

Man, Wisconsin is white. Much more homogenous that I am used to.
Bet everyone there including your cousins say they are guilty?
Old-Man
Posts
8019
Joined
10/21/2011
Location
Colorado springs, CO, USA
8/5/2016 11:00am Edited Date/Time 8/5/2016 11:00am
I guess I'll[i] have [/i]to see it. Motive,....yeah. There's no telling what makes people tick, I know, but it seems a strange way to go in...
I guess I'll have to see it.

Motive,....yeah. There's no telling what makes people tick, I know, but it seems a strange way to go in his situation.

He was free, had a girlfriend, was about to be a millionaire...

D O E S N O T C O M P U T E
D O E S N O T C O M P U T E
D O E S N O T C O M P U T E
D O E S N O T C O M P U T E
D O E S N O T C O M P U T E
D O E S N O T C O M P U T E
D O E S N O T C O M P U T E
D O E S N O T C O M P U T E
D O E S N O T C O M P U T E
Girl-friend was in jail, he is demented, mental as stated by his girlfriend
no amount of money can fix that.

With you repeating the above nine times I don't think your far behind
Homey55
Posts
1277
Joined
2/18/2010
Location
collinsville, OK, USA
8/5/2016 11:10am


Old-Man
Posts
8019
Joined
10/21/2011
Location
Colorado springs, CO, USA
8/12/2016 3:10pm
They had the right guy just went the wrong way in convicting him..prolly do the same as O'le uncle Steve did and commit another homicide inside of a year.

Teresa's rolling in her grave, well...in heaven saying WTF?

freeh
Posts
805
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Lehi, UT, USA
8/12/2016 5:40pm
No way that kid was involved. That confession was coerced. The system got it right for him, finally.
GD2
Posts
16115
Joined
5/10/2014
Location
Plano, TX, USA
Fantasy
8/13/2016 1:51pm
Not related to the kid being cleared, but apparently there will be a second season of Making a Murderer.
ThorsMX
Posts
93
Joined
1/26/2016
Location
Eureka, CA, USA
8/13/2016 5:06pm
freeh wrote:
No way that kid was involved. That confession was coerced. The system got it right for him, finally.
The hell he's not! Him and his dip shit Uncle.

They got it right the first time around, too sad the dip shit Cops couldn't have been patient plus had his attorney there. to defend him and let him know his rights during the interrogation.
That is the only thing that got him off on appeal.
When he gets out I bet he spills what he knows to his Family then the saga continues.

That movie was so far one sided holding back truths that only Media and movie making Fu&$ heads.
Gawd people get a fricken clue.

borg
Posts
7029
Joined
12/7/2009
Location
Long Beach, CA, USA
6/22/2017 6:54pm
Dassey won his appeal. Ordered released. It goes on.
-MAVERICK-
Posts
67595
Joined
3/26/2015
Location
Ontario, CA
6/22/2017 7:01pm
I didn't watch any of it but do know there's suppose to be a second season.

Post a reply to: 'Making a Murderer' on Netflix - Thoughts?

The Latest