Moss Brothers Doping

51xc
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7/17/2016 11:39pm
even golf and dart player using ped's. don't be surprised a moto guy would do it too. not saying it's the right thing to do but it's reality in most sports unfortunately.
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7/18/2016 12:03am
It will be someone else's fault.
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7/18/2016 12:21am
if your not cheating, your cheating yourself

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7/18/2016 12:27am
micmac92 wrote:
how does it take matthes a u.s moto guy to nut up and actually say this, aus moto media just sticking there heads in the sand...
how does it take matthes a u.s moto guy to nut up and actually say this, aus moto media just sticking there heads in the sand over it. they were tested ages ago and the story has been gaining momentum ever since then.
calling them media is a stretch mate... more like fanboys with a website and twitter account
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7/18/2016 12:31am
micmac92 wrote:
how does it take matthes a u.s moto guy to nut up and actually say this, aus moto media just sticking there heads in the sand...
how does it take matthes a u.s moto guy to nut up and actually say this, aus moto media just sticking there heads in the sand over it. they were tested ages ago and the story has been gaining momentum ever since then.
scott_nz wrote:
i see motoonline.com.au has now posted kawasaki's press release,

http://www.motoonline.com.au/2016/07/18/kawasaki-releases-official-stat…
MX690 wrote:
I think Matthes actually writes for Motoonline, so maybe that's how he gathered his info.
I think that dried up a while ago, when Chad stopped winning and there were no aussies to write good things about
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7/18/2016 12:55am
it was protested, Someone or a group of people payed for them to be tested. Im not sure who though.
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7/18/2016 1:30am
JB479 wrote:
it was protested, Someone or a group of people payed for them to be tested. Im not sure who though.
Who did the testing?! I'd be surprised if you can request people be tested, much less pay for it to happen.
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7/18/2016 1:35am Edited Date/Time 7/18/2016 1:40am
JB479 wrote:
it was protested, Someone or a group of people payed for them to be tested. Im not sure who though.
Crush wrote:
Who did the testing?! I'd be surprised if you can request people be tested, much less pay for it to happen.
Yeah, never heard of such thing. I understand you can request for a bike to be tested, never ever heard you can request that to WADA and pay for that. WADA has a contract with Aussie motorsport federation who pays for everything. That post would would suggest that someone bribed someone for a specific riders to be tested.
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7/18/2016 1:41am
JB479 wrote:
it was protested, Someone or a group of people payed for them to be tested. Im not sure who though.
You don't get to pay for a drug test on who ever you like. AUSADA can conduct targeted testing though, and at this strike rate I would suggest that whatever they knew was on the money.
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7/18/2016 1:57am
Moss Bros praying for the 17 Crf450 release asap!
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7/18/2016 2:00am
Jrewing wrote:
Moss Bros praying for the 17 Crf450 release asap!
Looks like Honda have lost two more customers. Tongue
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Not for nothing, but regardless of whether they did or didn't, you'd have to wonder why anyone actually would in Australia MX... Is anyone in Oz Mx making a decent living?

Wtf are any of them getting paid that they could justify it, financially - I'd assume it's not cheap or at least someone administering it isn't, the risk, the harm or the potential gain.
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7/18/2016 2:12am
If it is drugs, wonder when they were tested?
I don't remember both of them finishing on the podium at the same round this year and they are outside the top 3 for the title.

Disappointing if its true as both seem to support mx at the grass roots.
7/18/2016 2:12am
Crush wrote:
Not for nothing, but regardless of whether they did or didn't, you'd have to wonder why anyone actually would in Australia MX... Is anyone in Oz...
Not for nothing, but regardless of whether they did or didn't, you'd have to wonder why anyone actually would in Australia MX... Is anyone in Oz Mx making a decent living?

Wtf are any of them getting paid that they could justify it, financially - I'd assume it's not cheap or at least someone administering it isn't, the risk, the harm or the potential gain.
I was wondering the same sorta thing.

BUT, until we hear the finer details, it's hard to speculate. For all we know it could of been an honest mistake of taking a supplement or eating something that contained a substance that gives a positive. Interesting that people are saying it was a targeted round of testing? How often are the riders tested?
7/18/2016 2:37am Edited Date/Time 7/18/2016 2:50am
Crush wrote:
Not for nothing, but regardless of whether they did or didn't, you'd have to wonder why anyone actually would in Australia MX... Is anyone in Oz...
Not for nothing, but regardless of whether they did or didn't, you'd have to wonder why anyone actually would in Australia MX... Is anyone in Oz Mx making a decent living?

Wtf are any of them getting paid that they could justify it, financially - I'd assume it's not cheap or at least someone administering it isn't, the risk, the harm or the potential gain.
Not many, and especially not fanboys with websites!!! lol.

Though the likes of Gibbs, Matt Moss, Waters and Ferris would be making a decent living, Mosig, Styke, Reardon would be alright and probably the two Crankt Honda Rides in Wilson and Long enough to survive and race without working and Dobson at KTM.

MX2 class maybe a handful earning enough to just ride without working during the week.
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7/18/2016 2:53am Edited Date/Time 7/18/2016 2:53am
Very thin field in the 450's at Conondale. Havnt been to the nats for a while but disappointing rider turnout.
7/18/2016 3:07am Edited Date/Time 7/18/2016 3:44am
51xc wrote:
even golf and dart player using ped's. don't be surprised a moto guy would do it too. not saying it's the right thing to do but...
even golf and dart player using ped's. don't be surprised a moto guy would do it too. not saying it's the right thing to do but it's reality in most sports unfortunately.
No doubt, the top athletes in every sport are on something, people are very naive if they think the odd few who get caught are the only "bad guys". I find it funny how people accept that moto is one of the most physically demanding sports in the world, but when it comes to PEDs all of a sudden our sport is somehow different and all these guys we watch every week are clean..? Please!
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7/18/2016 5:38am
Crush wrote:
Not for nothing, but regardless of whether they did or didn't, you'd have to wonder why anyone actually would in Australia MX... Is anyone in Oz...
Not for nothing, but regardless of whether they did or didn't, you'd have to wonder why anyone actually would in Australia MX... Is anyone in Oz Mx making a decent living?

Wtf are any of them getting paid that they could justify it, financially - I'd assume it's not cheap or at least someone administering it isn't, the risk, the harm or the potential gain.
I was wondering the same sorta thing. BUT, until we hear the finer details, it's hard to speculate. For all we know it could of been...
I was wondering the same sorta thing.

BUT, until we hear the finer details, it's hard to speculate. For all we know it could of been an honest mistake of taking a supplement or eating something that contained a substance that gives a positive. Interesting that people are saying it was a targeted round of testing? How often are the riders tested?
Do you expect to hear any different though, haha. Seems like every athlete that gets busted "made a mistake."
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7/18/2016 7:27am
It is chest day today and some roids would hit the spot bro
7/18/2016 8:00am
Crush wrote:
Not for nothing, but regardless of whether they did or didn't, you'd have to wonder why anyone actually would in Australia MX... Is anyone in Oz...
Not for nothing, but regardless of whether they did or didn't, you'd have to wonder why anyone actually would in Australia MX... Is anyone in Oz Mx making a decent living?

Wtf are any of them getting paid that they could justify it, financially - I'd assume it's not cheap or at least someone administering it isn't, the risk, the harm or the potential gain.
If it helps them win a title then yeah, if you can get away with it it must be a temptation. Its not always about the money.
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7/18/2016 8:19am
Camp332 wrote:
It is chest day today and some roids would hit the spot bro
I've got some gummy bears I can spot you Teddy Brosevelt
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7/18/2016 8:23am
Mr. Moss please fill in the details?
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7/18/2016 8:25am
MxKing809 wrote:
I've got some gummy bears I can spot you Teddy Brosevelt
If they're Harbro gummi bears I will be right over Brotato Chip!



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7/18/2016 9:31am
If your day is done and you want to ride on.....
Gilby122
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7/18/2016 10:28am
I could use a shot of something after a race day...and that's usually only a handful of laps at a incredibly slow rate of speed!

On a more relevant PED note, Jake's wife is kinda hot.
7/18/2016 10:40am
Good luck to the Moss Twins just hope the B samples come back negative.

It will be interesting to see what the positive test is for and just how many MX riders have been tested this year compared to last year etc. seems strange that they would be tested out of the blue wonder who made the phone call

I had a mate Test positive to Weed and he was given 18 months, he had started training for his return to the track but unfortunately died in a bike crash. I had lost contact with him as I tried to appeal his suspension and would have succeeded with a reduced disqualification.

I take Fruisemide to get rid of fluid retention but I get nothing else out of it, yet Jockeys over here are given lengthy suspensions if positive to it.

Agree that you have to be unlucky to get caught as the majority of Olympic athletes etc would have the best advice, Brock Lesner was a shock as I thought he would be more knowledgeable.

PS I am in no way associated with the Moss Family and these are my personal views I follow most Aussie riders and have followed most of their International careers. The Moss twins have always been a favourite of mine.
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7/18/2016 11:39am
Wonder if they will throw Derek under the bus??
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7/18/2016 11:57am
I use magnets on my nose, and have done caffeine tabs before racing. I don't believe either is illegal, but both seem to make me at least feel as though I have an edge on those who aren't. WADA sucks
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7/18/2016 12:01pm
MxKing809 wrote:
I've got some gummy bears I can spot you Teddy Brosevelt
Camp332 wrote:
If they're Harbro gummi bears I will be right over Brotato Chip!



Sounds good Bro-Diddley!

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