Weed vs Pain Pills

sumdood wrote:

Just the fact's ma'am, check this out. Been self employed for 36 years. I've been on a Norco a day for several years, actually less, I...

Just the fact's ma'am, check this out. Been self employed for 36 years. I've been on a Norco a day for several years, actually less, I get 50 every other month. Most nights I take one an hour or so before I go to bed. I also like to smoke one bowl of weed at the end of the day, don't smoke during the day, don't smoke a lot. (used too, not anymore). A few months ago I got a new doctor (Kaiser) we talk about the norco's, she looks at my x-rays (arthritis, failed and revised hip implant, bone on bone knee) I say I take them to sleep, (truth) ok no problem nice meeting you, one a day is not a problem. I don't bring up the weed because I've learned over the years that people who don't smoke it or who have never tried it over react. Raging alcoholic and hung over or still drunk every morning ? that's cool, little weed at the end of the day= the spawn of Satan. 2 months later norcos denied, I need to come in for appointment, ok fine. She says "We need to do a urine test to make sure you're not selling the norcos", okay.... I'm 57, get less than 1 a day, and you think I'm selling them... ok fine whatever. Take the test. Then I got an e-mail saying you tested positive for marijuana, I can no longer prescribe norcos. I ask why, because you are at a high risk for addiction. What happened to one a day is no problem I ask ? She says oh it's not me I'm not picking on you, wait 30 days, take another test and if there's no marijuana I'll write the prescription. So I said ok fine. I'm 3 weeks into "sobriety". I don't have an addictive personality luckily, (unless you count wanting to sleep more than 2 or 3 hours a night). So instead of being relaxed and drifting off to sleep at night now, I lay awake and think about work, and most nights something hurts enough to keep me up because I'm trying to not take norcos and save them for the "Bad nights". So I've been self employed for 37 years, I employ 2 full time people plus a part time guy, I own my own home, pay boatloads of taxes, obey the laws (well all except one I guess) pay $1,100 whopping dollars a month for health insurance to pay the salary of a young smug female doctor who is convinced I'm a drug dealing low life junkie. Is it me or is that fucked up ?

sumdood wrote:

Just the fact's ma'am, check this out. Been self employed for 36 years. I've been on a Norco a day for several years, actually less, I...

Just the fact's ma'am, check this out. Been self employed for 36 years. I've been on a Norco a day for several years, actually less, I get 50 every other month. Most nights I take one an hour or so before I go to bed. I also like to smoke one bowl of weed at the end of the day, don't smoke during the day, don't smoke a lot. (used too, not anymore). A few months ago I got a new doctor (Kaiser) we talk about the norco's, she looks at my x-rays (arthritis, failed and revised hip implant, bone on bone knee) I say I take them to sleep, (truth) ok no problem nice meeting you, one a day is not a problem. I don't bring up the weed because I've learned over the years that people who don't smoke it or who have never tried it over react. Raging alcoholic and hung over or still drunk every morning ? that's cool, little weed at the end of the day= the spawn of Satan. 2 months later norcos denied, I need to come in for appointment, ok fine. She says "We need to do a urine test to make sure you're not selling the norcos", okay.... I'm 57, get less than 1 a day, and you think I'm selling them... ok fine whatever. Take the test. Then I got an e-mail saying you tested positive for marijuana, I can no longer prescribe norcos. I ask why, because you are at a high risk for addiction. What happened to one a day is no problem I ask ? She says oh it's not me I'm not picking on you, wait 30 days, take another test and if there's no marijuana I'll write the prescription. So I said ok fine. I'm 3 weeks into "sobriety". I don't have an addictive personality luckily, (unless you count wanting to sleep more than 2 or 3 hours a night). So instead of being relaxed and drifting off to sleep at night now, I lay awake and think about work, and most nights something hurts enough to keep me up because I'm trying to not take norcos and save them for the "Bad nights". So I've been self employed for 37 years, I employ 2 full time people plus a part time guy, I own my own home, pay boatloads of taxes, obey the laws (well all except one I guess) pay $1,100 whopping dollars a month for health insurance to pay the salary of a young smug female doctor who is convinced I'm a drug dealing low life junkie. Is it me or is that fucked up ?

sumdood wrote:

Just the fact's ma'am, check this out. Been self employed for 36 years. I've been on a Norco a day for several years, actually less, I...

Just the fact's ma'am, check this out. Been self employed for 36 years. I've been on a Norco a day for several years, actually less, I get 50 every other month. Most nights I take one an hour or so before I go to bed. I also like to smoke one bowl of weed at the end of the day, don't smoke during the day, don't smoke a lot. (used too, not anymore). A few months ago I got a new doctor (Kaiser) we talk about the norco's, she looks at my x-rays (arthritis, failed and revised hip implant, bone on bone knee) I say I take them to sleep, (truth) ok no problem nice meeting you, one a day is not a problem. I don't bring up the weed because I've learned over the years that people who don't smoke it or who have never tried it over react. Raging alcoholic and hung over or still drunk every morning ? that's cool, little weed at the end of the day= the spawn of Satan. 2 months later norcos denied, I need to come in for appointment, ok fine. She says "We need to do a urine test to make sure you're not selling the norcos", okay.... I'm 57, get less than 1 a day, and you think I'm selling them... ok fine whatever. Take the test. Then I got an e-mail saying you tested positive for marijuana, I can no longer prescribe norcos. I ask why, because you are at a high risk for addiction. What happened to one a day is no problem I ask ? She says oh it's not me I'm not picking on you, wait 30 days, take another test and if there's no marijuana I'll write the prescription. So I said ok fine. I'm 3 weeks into "sobriety". I don't have an addictive personality luckily, (unless you count wanting to sleep more than 2 or 3 hours a night). So instead of being relaxed and drifting off to sleep at night now, I lay awake and think about work, and most nights something hurts enough to keep me up because I'm trying to not take norcos and save them for the "Bad nights". So I've been self employed for 37 years, I employ 2 full time people plus a part time guy, I own my own home, pay boatloads of taxes, obey the laws (well all except one I guess) pay $1,100 whopping dollars a month for health insurance to pay the salary of a young smug female doctor who is convinced I'm a drug dealing low life junkie. Is it me or is that fucked up ?

sumdood wrote:

Just the fact's ma'am, check this out. Been self employed for 36 years. I've been on a Norco a day for several years, actually less, I...

Just the fact's ma'am, check this out. Been self employed for 36 years. I've been on a Norco a day for several years, actually less, I get 50 every other month. Most nights I take one an hour or so before I go to bed. I also like to smoke one bowl of weed at the end of the day, don't smoke during the day, don't smoke a lot. (used too, not anymore). A few months ago I got a new doctor (Kaiser) we talk about the norco's, she looks at my x-rays (arthritis, failed and revised hip implant, bone on bone knee) I say I take them to sleep, (truth) ok no problem nice meeting you, one a day is not a problem. I don't bring up the weed because I've learned over the years that people who don't smoke it or who have never tried it over react. Raging alcoholic and hung over or still drunk every morning ? that's cool, little weed at the end of the day= the spawn of Satan. 2 months later norcos denied, I need to come in for appointment, ok fine. She says "We need to do a urine test to make sure you're not selling the norcos", okay.... I'm 57, get less than 1 a day, and you think I'm selling them... ok fine whatever. Take the test. Then I got an e-mail saying you tested positive for marijuana, I can no longer prescribe norcos. I ask why, because you are at a high risk for addiction. What happened to one a day is no problem I ask ? She says oh it's not me I'm not picking on you, wait 30 days, take another test and if there's no marijuana I'll write the prescription. So I said ok fine. I'm 3 weeks into "sobriety". I don't have an addictive personality luckily, (unless you count wanting to sleep more than 2 or 3 hours a night). So instead of being relaxed and drifting off to sleep at night now, I lay awake and think about work, and most nights something hurts enough to keep me up because I'm trying to not take norcos and save them for the "Bad nights". So I've been self employed for 37 years, I employ 2 full time people plus a part time guy, I own my own home, pay boatloads of taxes, obey the laws (well all except one I guess) pay $1,100 whopping dollars a month for health insurance to pay the salary of a young smug female doctor who is convinced I'm a drug dealing low life junkie. Is it me or is that fucked up ?

JW381 wrote:

Tramadol is very addictive, not sure what makes you say it isnt. Its an opiate, and they all effect people differently. Tramadol fucks me up more...

Tramadol is very addictive, not sure what makes you say it isnt. Its an opiate, and they all effect people differently. Tramadol fucks me up more than oxy or hydro, I've tried all of them plenty of times to know. I get high for hours, feel great. The come down sucks tho.

sumdood wrote:

Just the fact's ma'am, check this out. Been self employed for 36 years. I've been on a Norco a day for several years, actually less, I...

Just the fact's ma'am, check this out. Been self employed for 36 years. I've been on a Norco a day for several years, actually less, I get 50 every other month. Most nights I take one an hour or so before I go to bed. I also like to smoke one bowl of weed at the end of the day, don't smoke during the day, don't smoke a lot. (used too, not anymore). A few months ago I got a new doctor (Kaiser) we talk about the norco's, she looks at my x-rays (arthritis, failed and revised hip implant, bone on bone knee) I say I take them to sleep, (truth) ok no problem nice meeting you, one a day is not a problem. I don't bring up the weed because I've learned over the years that people who don't smoke it or who have never tried it over react. Raging alcoholic and hung over or still drunk every morning ? that's cool, little weed at the end of the day= the spawn of Satan. 2 months later norcos denied, I need to come in for appointment, ok fine. She says "We need to do a urine test to make sure you're not selling the norcos", okay.... I'm 57, get less than 1 a day, and you think I'm selling them... ok fine whatever. Take the test. Then I got an e-mail saying you tested positive for marijuana, I can no longer prescribe norcos. I ask why, because you are at a high risk for addiction. What happened to one a day is no problem I ask ? She says oh it's not me I'm not picking on you, wait 30 days, take another test and if there's no marijuana I'll write the prescription. So I said ok fine. I'm 3 weeks into "sobriety". I don't have an addictive personality luckily, (unless you count wanting to sleep more than 2 or 3 hours a night). So instead of being relaxed and drifting off to sleep at night now, I lay awake and think about work, and most nights something hurts enough to keep me up because I'm trying to not take norcos and save them for the "Bad nights". So I've been self employed for 37 years, I employ 2 full time people plus a part time guy, I own my own home, pay boatloads of taxes, obey the laws (well all except one I guess) pay $1,100 whopping dollars a month for health insurance to pay the salary of a young smug female doctor who is convinced I'm a drug dealing low life junkie. Is it me or is that fucked up ?

JW381 wrote:

Tramadol is very addictive, not sure what makes you say it isnt. Its an opiate, and they all effect people differently. Tramadol fucks me up more...

Tramadol is very addictive, not sure what makes you say it isnt. Its an opiate, and they all effect people differently. Tramadol fucks me up more than oxy or hydro, I've tried all of them plenty of times to know. I get high for hours, feel great. The come down sucks tho.

Parris wrote:

Tramadol an opiate??? I have a couple of bad spots in my spine. My family Dr. wanted me to start seeing a pain management specialist back...

Tramadol an opiate??? I have a couple of bad spots in my spine. My family Dr. wanted me to start seeing a pain management specialist back around 2009. The selling point of the Tramadol back then was it was not addictive and not on the D.O.T drug screen list.I took around 150mg a day for two years. That Tramadol withdrawal was no joke.

JW381 wrote:

Unfortunately I'm the same. I'd love to smoke, but the paranoia sucks. Trying to find better blends.

sumdood wrote:

Just the fact's ma'am, check this out. Been self employed for 36 years. I've been on a Norco a day for several years, actually less, I...

Just the fact's ma'am, check this out. Been self employed for 36 years. I've been on a Norco a day for several years, actually less, I get 50 every other month. Most nights I take one an hour or so before I go to bed. I also like to smoke one bowl of weed at the end of the day, don't smoke during the day, don't smoke a lot. (used too, not anymore). A few months ago I got a new doctor (Kaiser) we talk about the norco's, she looks at my x-rays (arthritis, failed and revised hip implant, bone on bone knee) I say I take them to sleep, (truth) ok no problem nice meeting you, one a day is not a problem. I don't bring up the weed because I've learned over the years that people who don't smoke it or who have never tried it over react. Raging alcoholic and hung over or still drunk every morning ? that's cool, little weed at the end of the day= the spawn of Satan. 2 months later norcos denied, I need to come in for appointment, ok fine. She says "We need to do a urine test to make sure you're not selling the norcos", okay.... I'm 57, get less than 1 a day, and you think I'm selling them... ok fine whatever. Take the test. Then I got an e-mail saying you tested positive for marijuana, I can no longer prescribe norcos. I ask why, because you are at a high risk for addiction. What happened to one a day is no problem I ask ? She says oh it's not me I'm not picking on you, wait 30 days, take another test and if there's no marijuana I'll write the prescription. So I said ok fine. I'm 3 weeks into "sobriety". I don't have an addictive personality luckily, (unless you count wanting to sleep more than 2 or 3 hours a night). So instead of being relaxed and drifting off to sleep at night now, I lay awake and think about work, and most nights something hurts enough to keep me up because I'm trying to not take norcos and save them for the "Bad nights". So I've been self employed for 37 years, I employ 2 full time people plus a part time guy, I own my own home, pay boatloads of taxes, obey the laws (well all except one I guess) pay $1,100 whopping dollars a month for health insurance to pay the salary of a young smug female doctor who is convinced I'm a drug dealing low life junkie. Is it me or is that fucked up ?

lestat wrote:

If pot was legal , would the company policy stand up in court ?

MR. X wrote:

White widow?

sumdood wrote:

Just the fact's ma'am, check this out. Been self employed for 36 years. I've been on a Norco a day for several years, actually less, I...

Just the fact's ma'am, check this out. Been self employed for 36 years. I've been on a Norco a day for several years, actually less, I get 50 every other month. Most nights I take one an hour or so before I go to bed. I also like to smoke one bowl of weed at the end of the day, don't smoke during the day, don't smoke a lot. (used too, not anymore). A few months ago I got a new doctor (Kaiser) we talk about the norco's, she looks at my x-rays (arthritis, failed and revised hip implant, bone on bone knee) I say I take them to sleep, (truth) ok no problem nice meeting you, one a day is not a problem. I don't bring up the weed because I've learned over the years that people who don't smoke it or who have never tried it over react. Raging alcoholic and hung over or still drunk every morning ? that's cool, little weed at the end of the day= the spawn of Satan. 2 months later norcos denied, I need to come in for appointment, ok fine. She says "We need to do a urine test to make sure you're not selling the norcos", okay.... I'm 57, get less than 1 a day, and you think I'm selling them... ok fine whatever. Take the test. Then I got an e-mail saying you tested positive for marijuana, I can no longer prescribe norcos. I ask why, because you are at a high risk for addiction. What happened to one a day is no problem I ask ? She says oh it's not me I'm not picking on you, wait 30 days, take another test and if there's no marijuana I'll write the prescription. So I said ok fine. I'm 3 weeks into "sobriety". I don't have an addictive personality luckily, (unless you count wanting to sleep more than 2 or 3 hours a night). So instead of being relaxed and drifting off to sleep at night now, I lay awake and think about work, and most nights something hurts enough to keep me up because I'm trying to not take norcos and save them for the "Bad nights". So I've been self employed for 37 years, I employ 2 full time people plus a part time guy, I own my own home, pay boatloads of taxes, obey the laws (well all except one I guess) pay $1,100 whopping dollars a month for health insurance to pay the salary of a young smug female doctor who is convinced I'm a drug dealing low life junkie. Is it me or is that fucked up ?

sumdood wrote:

hillbilly the ones I take are 325 mg's and seem to last 2-3 (hours for me at least) It's long enough that I get through the...

hillbilly the ones I take are 325 mg's and seem to last 2-3 (hours for me at least) It's long enough that I get through the constant dull ache in my knee and I also get rls some nights and they help with that too. As far as the weed, I stopped 3 weeks ago now an honestly don't really miss it that much, but at the end of the day or after dinner it's nice to forget about work for a few minutes, play guitar, tinker in the garage, waste some precious hours away in front of the idiot box (tv) whatever. Without it I tend to be naturally more responsible I guess ? And wind up in my home office doing work bullshit for what seems like 24 hours a day. You're self employed so you know there's always something that needs done, there's no "caught up", ever. Anyway I guess I've been spoiled never having to take any drug tests before, or answer to anyone about my personal habits, and now I'm dealing with this bitch. Way way way too much government control bullshit for this old redneck hillbilly at heart even though I live at the beach old deadhead hippy burnout haha. So now I'm starting to wonder wich is worse, pain pills or weed ? I honestly think weed is the lesser of the two evils, but since our gov't hasn't figured out how to make money off weed it's evil evil evil. Guess I'll start drinking more and start taking sleeping pills, seems like that's somehow healthier in the eyes of the powers that be, aaarrrrgh...... insert eyeroll here....

sumdood wrote:

Just the fact's ma'am, check this out. Been self employed for 36 years. I've been on a Norco a day for several years, actually less, I...

Just the fact's ma'am, check this out. Been self employed for 36 years. I've been on a Norco a day for several years, actually less, I get 50 every other month. Most nights I take one an hour or so before I go to bed. I also like to smoke one bowl of weed at the end of the day, don't smoke during the day, don't smoke a lot. (used too, not anymore). A few months ago I got a new doctor (Kaiser) we talk about the norco's, she looks at my x-rays (arthritis, failed and revised hip implant, bone on bone knee) I say I take them to sleep, (truth) ok no problem nice meeting you, one a day is not a problem. I don't bring up the weed because I've learned over the years that people who don't smoke it or who have never tried it over react. Raging alcoholic and hung over or still drunk every morning ? that's cool, little weed at the end of the day= the spawn of Satan. 2 months later norcos denied, I need to come in for appointment, ok fine. She says "We need to do a urine test to make sure you're not selling the norcos", okay.... I'm 57, get less than 1 a day, and you think I'm selling them... ok fine whatever. Take the test. Then I got an e-mail saying you tested positive for marijuana, I can no longer prescribe norcos. I ask why, because you are at a high risk for addiction. What happened to one a day is no problem I ask ? She says oh it's not me I'm not picking on you, wait 30 days, take another test and if there's no marijuana I'll write the prescription. So I said ok fine. I'm 3 weeks into "sobriety". I don't have an addictive personality luckily, (unless you count wanting to sleep more than 2 or 3 hours a night). So instead of being relaxed and drifting off to sleep at night now, I lay awake and think about work, and most nights something hurts enough to keep me up because I'm trying to not take norcos and save them for the "Bad nights". So I've been self employed for 37 years, I employ 2 full time people plus a part time guy, I own my own home, pay boatloads of taxes, obey the laws (well all except one I guess) pay $1,100 whopping dollars a month for health insurance to pay the salary of a young smug female doctor who is convinced I'm a drug dealing low life junkie. Is it me or is that fucked up ?

captmoto wrote:

Twice you've bitched out the doctor but the drug test is a government thing not a personal thing. Should she put her license on the line...

Twice you've bitched out the doctor but the drug test is a government thing not a personal thing. Should she put her license on the line for you? No doctor will do it so finding another medical plan won't work. You don't miss the weed that much you say so it sounds like you just want it. I guess you gotta be dying of cancer to get weed now.
I feel your pain, sometimes I think about weed too. I'm bone on bone in my ankle, right knee clicks, pops and locks and my back has 3 bulges. I am usually awake from pain before I am rested because of it. Last time I took tramadol I was sick and groggy for 24 hours. When I have a sciatic flare nothing touches it. Good luck.

sumdood wrote:

Just the fact's ma'am, check this out. Been self employed for 36 years. I've been on a Norco a day for several years, actually less, I...

Just the fact's ma'am, check this out. Been self employed for 36 years. I've been on a Norco a day for several years, actually less, I get 50 every other month. Most nights I take one an hour or so before I go to bed. I also like to smoke one bowl of weed at the end of the day, don't smoke during the day, don't smoke a lot. (used too, not anymore). A few months ago I got a new doctor (Kaiser) we talk about the norco's, she looks at my x-rays (arthritis, failed and revised hip implant, bone on bone knee) I say I take them to sleep, (truth) ok no problem nice meeting you, one a day is not a problem. I don't bring up the weed because I've learned over the years that people who don't smoke it or who have never tried it over react. Raging alcoholic and hung over or still drunk every morning ? that's cool, little weed at the end of the day= the spawn of Satan. 2 months later norcos denied, I need to come in for appointment, ok fine. She says "We need to do a urine test to make sure you're not selling the norcos", okay.... I'm 57, get less than 1 a day, and you think I'm selling them... ok fine whatever. Take the test. Then I got an e-mail saying you tested positive for marijuana, I can no longer prescribe norcos. I ask why, because you are at a high risk for addiction. What happened to one a day is no problem I ask ? She says oh it's not me I'm not picking on you, wait 30 days, take another test and if there's no marijuana I'll write the prescription. So I said ok fine. I'm 3 weeks into "sobriety". I don't have an addictive personality luckily, (unless you count wanting to sleep more than 2 or 3 hours a night). So instead of being relaxed and drifting off to sleep at night now, I lay awake and think about work, and most nights something hurts enough to keep me up because I'm trying to not take norcos and save them for the "Bad nights". So I've been self employed for 37 years, I employ 2 full time people plus a part time guy, I own my own home, pay boatloads of taxes, obey the laws (well all except one I guess) pay $1,100 whopping dollars a month for health insurance to pay the salary of a young smug female doctor who is convinced I'm a drug dealing low life junkie. Is it me or is that fucked up ?