The GOAT dead at 74

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Edited Date/Time 6/6/2016 11:07am
When I just heard about this on TV for some reason it really hit me hard! Muhammad Ali:a true original and legend. RIP!
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I don't know what to say... this really hit me hard.
RIP
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This is a motocross forum, I thought you were talking about Ricky before I clicked on it. Except he's not 74.
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AKmotorider wrote:
This is a motocross forum, I thought you were talking about Ricky before I clicked on it. Except he's not 74.
x2.

non - moto for sure

( still....RIP Sad )

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Ali was a legend, in and out of the ring - rip Muhammad, you were the greatest!
TbonesPop 6/3/2016 10:30pm
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Dang, that really sucks. I actually go to the same Dr Ali went to in Scottsdale. He was in there from time to time, which was pretty cool.
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Rc4 is dead? What the fudge?
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Its already in non moto, but I'll say again, Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, may you RIP Mr. Ali. Good guy and a true legendary bad a$$.
backinthesaddleagain 6/5/2016 2:21pm
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There is also and old school moto sub forum but many seem to post about old bikes in here. RIP Ali.
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I will say that Ali was the GOAT of trash talking but was over rated as a fighter. I can't count how many rounds the judges gave him for one 10 second flurry. He became a good man though.
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Not even top 5 all time boxer and a draft dodger. Sad to see him go but far from the "GOAT"
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Premix wrote:
Not even top 5 all time boxer and a draft dodger. Sad to see him go but far from the "GOAT"
With ya here...

The utterly brutal and very personal shit he said to "Smokin' Joe" prior to their fights was apalling.

It gave credence to the proverb "Words scar more than fists" . Frazier had a tough upbringing as well as CC.

Ali had an ugly soul. Fucking media - "What a great guy"...
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Premix wrote:
Not even top 5 all time boxer and a draft dodger. Sad to see him go but far from the "GOAT"
If I had been alive during Vietnam, I would have been a proud draft dodger.
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YamahaJT1 wrote:
With ya here... The utterly brutal and very personal shit he said to "Smokin' Joe" prior to their fights was apalling. It gave credence to the...
With ya here...

The utterly brutal and very personal shit he said to "Smokin' Joe" prior to their fights was apalling.

It gave credence to the proverb "Words scar more than fists" . Frazier had a tough upbringing as well as CC.

Ali had an ugly soul. Fucking media - "What a great guy"...
A few years ago I saw a few programs about Ali and Frazier's fight.

I was appalled by Ali's treatment of Joe. Some of the most vicious racism ( and shit yes, racism is possible between people who are ostensibly, of the same race) I've seen.

I think I recall Joe in the interviews still visibly fuming over it, and thought that, if it had been a bare knuckles fight, Ali may well have not exited the ring alive.

Ali passed it off as showmanship / promotion. I think he apologized to Joe's son / one of his retinue, but never to Joe himself.

I was a boxer myself through into my 20s, and held Ali in very high regard - still do in many ways. But, a few things I've learnt of him over the years, has clouded my opinion of him.

Still, a great boxer, and a man of much renown, but, like all of us, an imperfect human being. . RIP.
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YamahaJT1 wrote:
With ya here... The utterly brutal and very personal shit he said to "Smokin' Joe" prior to their fights was apalling. It gave credence to the...
With ya here...

The utterly brutal and very personal shit he said to "Smokin' Joe" prior to their fights was apalling.

It gave credence to the proverb "Words scar more than fists" . Frazier had a tough upbringing as well as CC.

Ali had an ugly soul. Fucking media - "What a great guy"...
You're judging his soul based on his trash talk when he was a young man and a professional boxer?

Why don't you instead look to his real life and how he acted as an older, mature man?
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He finally rattled apart.
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motov8tedcre8tor wrote:
When I just heard about this on TV for some reason it really hit me hard! Muhammad Ali:a true original and legend. RIP!
Crazy but I felt the same way. You see famous people die all the time but three really stand out to me. Elvis, Lucille Ball and Ali.Sad

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Scrambler_Man 6/5/2016 11:57pm
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The greatest unpatriotic, draft dodging, loud mouth, adulterous...........Oh yeah, he won a few fights. Awesome dude.

Oh and also...........Non-Moto!
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Scrambler_Man wrote:
The greatest unpatriotic, draft dodging, loud mouth, adulterous...........Oh yeah, he won a few fights. Awesome dude.

Oh and also...........Non-Moto!
It's funny that he had no problem making tons of money in this country that he didn't support. People (a lot better than him) die every day. I'm sure it's sad for his family and they'll miss him dearly, but I don't understand why so many want to make him out to be a hero....
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Scrambler_Man wrote:
The greatest unpatriotic, draft dodging, loud mouth, adulterous...........Oh yeah, he won a few fights. Awesome dude.

Oh and also...........Non-Moto!
huck wrote:
It's funny that he had no problem making tons of money in this country that he didn't support. People (a lot better than him) die every...
It's funny that he had no problem making tons of money in this country that he didn't support. People (a lot better than him) die every day. I'm sure it's sad for his family and they'll miss him dearly, but I don't understand why so many want to make him out to be a hero....
I am not sure if he qualifies as a hero either. But I imagine that if you were born as a black man in segregated Kentucky in the 1940s your warm and fuzzy feelings about the US government might be different. The government is the entity that wanted him to go to Vietnam, not "the country" which was sharply divided about the war.
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I thought this thread would be about Sten Lundin, but he was older I realized.
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Premix wrote:
Not even top 5 all time boxer and a draft dodger. Sad to see him go but far from the "GOAT"
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karsmakers wrote:
I will say that Ali was the GOAT of trash talking but was over rated as a fighter. I can't count how many rounds the judges...
I will say that Ali was the GOAT of trash talking but was over rated as a fighter. I can't count how many rounds the judges gave him for one 10 second flurry. He became a good man though.
I'd like to see you stand toe to toe with smoking joe

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Bearuno wrote:
A few years ago I saw a few programs about Ali and Frazier's fight. I was appalled by Ali's treatment of Joe. Some of the most...
A few years ago I saw a few programs about Ali and Frazier's fight.

I was appalled by Ali's treatment of Joe. Some of the most vicious racism ( and shit yes, racism is possible between people who are ostensibly, of the same race) I've seen.

I think I recall Joe in the interviews still visibly fuming over it, and thought that, if it had been a bare knuckles fight, Ali may well have not exited the ring alive.

Ali passed it off as showmanship / promotion. I think he apologized to Joe's son / one of his retinue, but never to Joe himself.

I was a boxer myself through into my 20s, and held Ali in very high regard - still do in many ways. But, a few things I've learnt of him over the years, has clouded my opinion of him.

Still, a great boxer, and a man of much renown, but, like all of us, an imperfect human being. . RIP.
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Machiavelli3 wrote:
Rocky Marciano would whip both of them...all in their prime.
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marciano fought bums
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Machiavelli3 wrote:
marciano fought bums
Morrison would have knocked Ali out in the first round.

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