Three most iconic bikes....

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1997 CR250 was the future we envisioned.

1998 YZ400 was the future we got.
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5/13/2016 5:10am Edited Date/Time 5/13/2016 5:11am
1. Team Peak Honda
2. 1991 RM series
3. Bartolini's 1991 Husaberg
5/13/2016 6:27am
Question wrote:
By the way, if someone is interested, someone in France is selling 2 plastic kits for 125 250 500 CR to make Peak Pro Circuit replicas...


By the way, if someone is interested, someone in France is selling 2 plastic kits for 125 250 500 CR to make Peak Pro Circuit replicas, for 300€. Just thought about it looking at 1 of the picture in this thread.
Please email me info:

chuck_davies@hotmail.com
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YZM 500 Woohoo

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Cr 500r

Kx 500

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5/13/2016 7:28am Edited Date/Time 5/13/2016 7:29am
The end of an era...

JMB's CR500

Larocco's KX500 - The last bike/rider to win the 500cc championship, meaning he's been undefeated for 23 years Tongue



5/13/2016 7:31am
For me personally it was this bike.



When this bike came out, I couldn't believe how cool it was. I was just about to turn 10 and we were looking for an 80, and then this came out and changed my life. For what seemed like years (was only like 1 month), I couldn't get enough of reading about it. I couldn't wait to see one in person, to throw a leg over it, to go ride it. When I finally brought it home I would spend hours looking at it, marveling at how cool it looked. It looked just like Bradshaw's bike!

Life changer for a 9 yr old.
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Well, with the above, you at least got one bike from the 90s.......

YZM500 : 87/88

RC500 - as it's got Thorpes #1, it would be his 86 - well, unless it's his 85 with the #1 put on it after he won his first World Championship. . His 87, that he ran #1 on, was a sadly, more 'production' looking bike.

Sidecars lot were cool - I remember Dirt Bike doing a short comparo between Bartolini's 'Berg, and , Steve Lamson's CR500 (prior to his Team Honda days). At a time when Bartolini (and his brother) was The holeshot master in GPs.

The bikes were the complete opposite to what people thought they'd be - the 'Berg a high strung rev monster (by those days standards) that required perfect and constant maintenance, and being on the ball during riding at all times. Fair enough, it was being campaigned hard , in the World Championships. Lamsons CR500, a comparative, grunt mobile, that still had the same (or was it the 2nd?) piston in it throughout a season of racing. That's not knocking the 'Berg - I have a special place in my heart for them, being as I worked in OZ's biggest ( small shop at the time, though, that is now quite, quite big) 'Berg dealership. The owner, and my youth days (and still) friend, Chris Sutton, won a trip through Europe, travelling with Joel and his Kiwi Mechanic ( Glen?) for a few weeks, from us selling the most Husabergs, He came back with some interesting tales from that, he did.

Both the Honda RC Tanks , and the Husaberg tanks were a major influence in my obsession with making drop tanks - I use the same style Vacuum fuel pumps on my tanks as Husaberg did. I found it strange how Smets / Husaberg eventually went to a conventional, fuel up high tank. Made for his requirements / feel ultimately, I guess. Though, the drop tanks could be quite a bitch of a thing to get back on, especially if you had them off for a while, in hot weather. At times, you had to hold your tongue just right, and give the tank a perfectly placed 'whompo'with your hand, it get it on.Woohoo
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TriRacer27 wrote:
For me personally it was this bike. [img]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8151/7694479084_54a897bebe_b.jpg[/img] When this bike came out, I couldn't believe how cool it was. I was just about to turn...
For me personally it was this bike.



When this bike came out, I couldn't believe how cool it was. I was just about to turn 10 and we were looking for an 80, and then this came out and changed my life. For what seemed like years (was only like 1 month), I couldn't get enough of reading about it. I couldn't wait to see one in person, to throw a leg over it, to go ride it. When I finally brought it home I would spend hours looking at it, marveling at how cool it looked. It looked just like Bradshaw's bike!

Life changer for a 9 yr old.
That is a bad looking little scoot. I picked the bigger brother up a little while ago and agree, it is the definition of "RAD" back in the day!

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I remember those first perimeter framed kx being a pretty big deal.
The 97 cr250 was up there. I don't think either of those were great performers though.
The 98 yz400 was huge but to me back then it didn't really register as groundbreaking mostly because locally no one was really dominating on it.
purely performance wise I think the 93 cr250 hands down.
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5/13/2016 9:14am
Adam43 wrote:
1997 CR250 was the future we envisioned.

1998 YZ400 was the future we got.
oh man, i don't think you could have hit the nail any more on the head than you did. well done

also, that '93 YZ80 was a game changer in the 80 class. i remember when i was younger i was racing a '93YZ for a couple years and then my dad got me a '95CR, that thing was lightyears behind the YZ everywhere but the motor. the motor was a rocket ship. those '93YZ's though were the definition of cool to a 12 year old
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5/13/2016 9:40am
Adam43 wrote:
1997 CR250 was the future we envisioned.

1998 YZ400 was the future we got.
...excellent...
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5/13/2016 10:59am
Adam43 wrote:
1997 CR250 was the future we envisioned.

1998 YZ400 was the future we got.
That really does belong on a t-shirt.
5/13/2016 11:10am




93 CR 250 and KX500. Great bikes and low maintenance
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5/13/2016 11:21am Edited Date/Time 5/13/2016 11:29am
Bearuno wrote:
Well, with the above, you at least got one bike from the 90s....... YZM500 : 87/88 RC500 - as it's got Thorpes #1, it would be...
Well, with the above, you at least got one bike from the 90s.......

YZM500 : 87/88

RC500 - as it's got Thorpes #1, it would be his 86 - well, unless it's his 85 with the #1 put on it after he won his first World Championship. . His 87, that he ran #1 on, was a sadly, more 'production' looking bike.

Sidecars lot were cool - I remember Dirt Bike doing a short comparo between Bartolini's 'Berg, and , Steve Lamson's CR500 (prior to his Team Honda days). At a time when Bartolini (and his brother) was The holeshot master in GPs.

The bikes were the complete opposite to what people thought they'd be - the 'Berg a high strung rev monster (by those days standards) that required perfect and constant maintenance, and being on the ball during riding at all times. Fair enough, it was being campaigned hard , in the World Championships. Lamsons CR500, a comparative, grunt mobile, that still had the same (or was it the 2nd?) piston in it throughout a season of racing. That's not knocking the 'Berg - I have a special place in my heart for them, being as I worked in OZ's biggest ( small shop at the time, though, that is now quite, quite big) 'Berg dealership. The owner, and my youth days (and still) friend, Chris Sutton, won a trip through Europe, travelling with Joel and his Kiwi Mechanic ( Glen?) for a few weeks, from us selling the most Husabergs, He came back with some interesting tales from that, he did.

Both the Honda RC Tanks , and the Husaberg tanks were a major influence in my obsession with making drop tanks - I use the same style Vacuum fuel pumps on my tanks as Husaberg did. I found it strange how Smets / Husaberg eventually went to a conventional, fuel up high tank. Made for his requirements / feel ultimately, I guess. Though, the drop tanks could be quite a bitch of a thing to get back on, especially if you had them off for a while, in hot weather. At times, you had to hold your tongue just right, and give the tank a perfectly placed 'whompo'with your hand, it get it on.Woohoo
I never saw that test of Bartolini's berg and Lamsons CR but I would love too.... The bergs hold a special place in my heart and I was fortunate enough to race some pretty trick bergs over the years, I still have one with a few ex Smets factory parts, I practiced on it last week end, first time out of the workshop in 3 years and after checking oil and water it fired up 3rd kick.

The Glen you speak of is Glen Woodman, he's still about, builds really quick husky motors for sidecarcross GP teams, Google AMS Husqvarna sidecar or WSP Husky.

Here's my Husaberg.



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TriRacer27 wrote:
For me personally it was this bike. [img]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8151/7694479084_54a897bebe_b.jpg[/img] When this bike came out, I couldn't believe how cool it was. I was just about to turn...
For me personally it was this bike.



When this bike came out, I couldn't believe how cool it was. I was just about to turn 10 and we were looking for an 80, and then this came out and changed my life. For what seemed like years (was only like 1 month), I couldn't get enough of reading about it. I couldn't wait to see one in person, to throw a leg over it, to go ride it. When I finally brought it home I would spend hours looking at it, marveling at how cool it looked. It looked just like Bradshaw's bike!

Life changer for a 9 yr old.
Same thing for me except that I didn't have the money to buy one. But some years ago I found this low hour bike at a good price and I couldn't resist ?

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5/10/2019 3:02pm Edited Date/Time 5/10/2019 3:03pm
Not sure how so many folks are agreeing on the 97 CR250 being an Iconic bike??

Guess it depends on what kind of Icon you're talking about? That bike was an icon for being the king of vibrating ill handling bikes with an ultra rigid frame. Of course, was also the bike that drove McGrath away from Honda...he wanted no part of it.
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5/10/2019 3:23pm Edited Date/Time 5/10/2019 3:24pm
Personal opinion

Husqvarna 633cc from Jacky Martens in 1993 - First 4 Stroke World Championship bike


Honda 420-460cc 2 stroke (1998) Custom Made MX of Namur edition for Stephan Everts


The third bike is bit in doubt. I would go for one of the Kawasaki' tuned by the late Jan de Groot. Just because he was such a iconic two stroke tuner. But also the Husaberg and the CR250 from 1997 with the L&M colors was pretty fabulous.
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peelout wrote:
not iconic, but ugliest by far is the 1999 Suzuki 125 and 250. the shrouds had a wing-span of 13 feet [img]https://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/suzuki-history/1999/1999_RM250_yellow_450.jpg[/img] in my opinion, the...
not iconic, but ugliest by far is the 1999 Suzuki 125 and 250. the shrouds had a wing-span of 13 feet




in my opinion, the YZF (the bike that killed 2-strokes in professional motocross) could be the most iconic. but also the 1993 CR250, the bike that took Jeremy to multiple championships

Was that the frame he rode for like 3-4 years with new graphics every year or was it the 96 frame?
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92-93 Honda CR250, 1998 YZF400 and YZ426F.
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Peak CR 125
1-800-COLLECT 1996 CR 250
And the G&$ D*&$* YZ 400F...
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Nothing can beat the hype around the yz400f. The 97 cr250 is another one I can think of as being a halo bike for me. I...
Nothing can beat the hype around the yz400f.
The 97 cr250 is another one I can think of as being a halo bike for me. I also personally think the one that looks the best today is the 95 cr250.
I got to get doubled on the prototype yz400f when there were just three in the world.
It was to go to sydney motor show, but Dack’s Mx team was flogging it at a private track before hand. I remember it out pulling a 250 banger up the long straight easily. Right then we all new the times had changed!!!
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5/10/2019 4:24pm Edited Date/Time 5/10/2019 4:25pm
1998 YZ400F
1996 CR250
1998 CR’s
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Micahdogg wrote:
I agree, I think the 97 CR250R followed by the 98 YZ400F. I'm lost after that though. I'm partial to the 92 YZ250, but at that...
I agree, I think the 97 CR250R followed by the 98 YZ400F. I'm lost after that though. I'm partial to the 92 YZ250, but at that point you can make a strong case for a bunch of stuff.

Thinking outside the box.....does the 1996 XR400R make it?
XR400R makes every list Cool
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MXMattii wrote:
Personal opinion [b]Husqvarna 633cc from Jacky Martens in 1993 - First 4 Stroke World Championship bike[/b] [img]https://live.staticflickr.com/1868/42439260090_d258d559c2_b.jpg[/img] [b]Honda 420-460cc 2 stroke (1998) Custom Made MX of...
Personal opinion

Husqvarna 633cc from Jacky Martens in 1993 - First 4 Stroke World Championship bike


Honda 420-460cc 2 stroke (1998) Custom Made MX of Namur edition for Stephan Everts


The third bike is bit in doubt. I would go for one of the Kawasaki' tuned by the late Jan de Groot. Just because he was such a iconic two stroke tuner. But also the Husaberg and the CR250 from 1997 with the L&M colors was pretty fabulous.
That's interesting - the smaller capacity of Everts AF. First time I've read of that with respect to the Namur bike.

I remember a Brit rider - I've temporarily forgot his name , he ran (as in, Organised / ran) the Belgian Nationals for quite a few years after his retirement from GPs. In an interview with him he said he'd run a de-bored CR500 engine in his last couple of seasons as a Privateer in the GPs, and rated it as the best engine he ever had. It makes sense, as some of the best open class engines with (more than) 'sufficient' power have been 400s / 430s/ 440s / 465s.

A modern, around 400cc 2T, would be the absolute Ducks Guts as an engine / bike set up..
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Just picked this up a few weeks ago....
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