This doesn't happen in SX/MX

and never will as long as the powers at be controll every single move, and dollar

Why would it.... MX/SX won't EVER be anything bigger than it is, EVEN if you changed everything..... Will skateboarding be the next Nascar? How about Snocross, Tractor pulls, Midget cars, Go carts.... Track and Field.... You guys who think MX is the next big thing are just being silly... its a major fringe sport, but a fringe sport non the less. It won't ever even go where MotoGP is... is doesn't have the exotica or pure speed. The skill required for MX doesn't equate to popularity. There is nothing anyone or anything can do about it. Sure it can get a little bigger, but it will never get HUGE. So stop with the bullshit it doesn't matter if MX gets bigger, why give a crap. Just have fun with it and ride.

[quote="SS":2d45jtzi]Why would it.... MX/SX won't EVER be anything bigger than it is, EVEN if you changed everything..... Will skateboarding be the next Nascar? How about Snocross, Tractor pulls, Midget cars, Go carts.... Track and Field.... You guys who think MX is the next big thing are just being silly... its a major fringe sport, but a fringe sport non the less. It won't ever even go where MotoGP is... is doesn't have the exotica or pure speed. The skill required for MX doesn't equate to popularity. There is nothing anyone or anything can do about it. Sure it can get a little bigger, but it will never get HUGE. So stop with the bullshit it doesn't matter if MX gets bigger, why give a crap. Just have fun with it and ride.[/quote:2d45jtzi]

How does it feel to shit a cinder block?

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How does it feel to shit a cinder block?[/quote]

more importantly, tell me how does it feels to BE that cinder block.....

[quote="SS":6cbrokga]Why would it.... MX/SX won't EVER be anything bigger than it is, EVEN if you changed everything..... Will skateboarding be the next Nascar? How about Snocross, Tractor pulls, Midget cars, Go carts.... Track and Field.... You guys who think MX is the next big thing are just being silly... its a major fringe sport, but a fringe sport non the less. It won't ever even go where MotoGP is... is doesn't have the exotica or pure speed. The skill required for MX doesn't equate to popularity. There is nothing anyone or anything can do about it. Sure it can get a little bigger, but it will never get HUGE. So stop with the bullshit it doesn't matter if MX gets bigger, why give a crap. Just have fun with it and ride.[/quote:6cbrokga]

Actually skateboarding is pretty big. i bet mor kids participate in skateboarding that motocross, just sayin. Plus more money in outside sponsors for the pro's. I'm not saying you make as much as the top ten pros in MX, but the potential is their especially in the shoe contracts.

Anyway, i agree with all the other stuff you said. " title="Smile">

Erik

I'm thinking Addias is looking at Puma's business from Formula 1 and says hey I wish we could have gotten that? Now they can.

Your right SS. As a fan mx fan it would be cool if it got a little more respect. However, common sense should tell us this sport will never be huge. Its probably good that it doesn't get huge for everyone except the moto companies because more attention = more riding area closure and more lawsuits. I agree, lets just enjoy our sport; who cares how big it gets? Its fun, thats the main thing.

[quote="SS":1l459m1a]Why would it.... MX/SX won't EVER be anything bigger than it is, EVEN if you changed everything..... Will skateboarding be the next Nascar? How about Snocross, Tractor pulls, Midget cars, Go carts.... Track and Field.... You guys who think MX is the next big thing are just being silly... its a major fringe sport, but a fringe sport non the less. It won't ever even go where MotoGP is... is doesn't have the exotica or pure speed. The skill required for MX doesn't equate to popularity. There is nothing anyone or anything can do about it. Sure it can get a little bigger, but it will never get HUGE. So stop with the bullshit it doesn't matter if MX gets bigger, why give a crap. Just have fun with it and ride.[/quote:1l459m1a]

even if everything was changed?

what youre basically saying, that even if everything was done the right way, there would be no difference because the skill required doesnt equate to popularity?

that has to be the dumbest thing ive read here in a while. anything can be made relatively popular/successful. so just shut up.

[quote="Mod Killer":1h0ue00u][quote="SS":1h0ue00u]Why would it.... MX/SX won't EVER be anything bigger than it is, EVEN if you changed everything..... Will skateboarding be the next Nascar? How about Snocross, Tractor pulls, Midget cars, Go carts.... Track and Field.... You guys who think MX is the next big thing are just being silly... its a major fringe sport, but a fringe sport non the less. It won't ever even go where MotoGP is... is doesn't have the exotica or pure speed. The skill required for MX doesn't equate to popularity. There is nothing anyone or anything can do about it. Sure it can get a little bigger, but it will never get HUGE. So stop with the bullshit it doesn't matter if MX gets bigger, why give a crap. Just have fun with it and ride.[/quote:1h0ue00u]

even if everything was changed?

what youre basically saying, that even if everything was done the right way, there would be no difference because the skill required doesnt equate to popularity?

that has to be the dumbest thing ive read here in a while. anything can be made relatively popular/successful. so just shut up.[/quote:1h0ue00u]

McGrath wants to talk to you.

Tell me why is Nascar so popular in the US I have tried to watch it loads of times but it just bores the ass off me. Whats so exciting about loads of cars going round an oval track with no corners ect ??

[quote="chrisgg90":1qpfjkem]Tell me why is Nascar so popular in the US I have tried to watch it loads of times but it just bores the ass off me. Whats so exciting about loads of cars going round an oval track with no corners ect ??[/quote:1qpfjkem]

There is no reason. And the doofs that think they can explain it are full of shite. Sometimes there just is no exact reason for "success". It's part timing, part luck, part hard work, part influx of $$, part fashion cycle, smart management, ....

In case everyone has forgotten ... NASCAR used to be called stock car racing and was also a "fringe" sport all thru the 50s, 60s and 70s. That barely anyone watched or paid attention to. Not sure what year or years you want to point to as it stepping up to the big time, but there is not always a reason or formula for success. Plenty of other sports have spent time, money and worked hard as well without the same results.

What NASCAR has done really, really well is to maintain their position as a major sport/event ... although I still feel it's boring as hell.

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There is no reason. And the doofs that think they can explain it are full of shite. Sometimes there just is no exact reason for "success". It's part timing, part luck, part hard work, part influx of $$, part fashion cycle, smart management, ....
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NASCAR's rise to prominence has been explained rationally and documented a thousand times and doofs like you that just don't get it or won't accept it and dismiss the process as irrational can't be helped.

[quote="race":1gwdqjkc][quote="chrisgg90":1gwdqjkc]Tell me why is Nascar so popular in the US I have tried to watch it loads of times but it just bores the ass off me. Whats so exciting about loads of cars going round an oval track with no corners ect ??[/quote:1gwdqjkc]

There is no reason. And the doofs that think they can explain it are full of shite. Sometimes there just is no exact reason for "success". It's part timing, part luck, part hard work, part influx of $$, part fashion cycle, smart management, ....

In case everyone has forgotten ... NASCAR used to be called stock car racing and was also a "fringe" sport all thru the 50s, 60s and 70s. That barely anyone watched or paid attention to. Not sure what year or years you want to point to as it stepping up to the big time, but there is not always a reason or formula for success. Plenty of other sports have spent time, money and worked hard as well without the same results.

What NASCAR has done really, really well is to maintain their position as a major sport/event ... although I still feel it's boring as hell.[/quote:1gwdqjkc]

Gotta admit It's pretty boring to watch on TV, but if you have ever stood by the fence at Daytona or Talladega when 43 cars come blowing by you at 190-200 mph less than 30 feet from you, it's pretty intense. The power and speed makes your chest vibrate. Other than being at the races, yeah it's boring on TV. Oh yeh, the smell of all that race fule is GREAT!

I've been to Daytona 3-4 times, Talladega once and Homestead once. Being at the races is definately cool. I equate it to baseball, I can't stand watching that shit on TV, but it is cool to go to a few FSU baseball games a year.

[quote="Mod Killer":dv7nbl9d][quote="SS":dv7nbl9d]Why would it.... MX/SX won't EVER be anything bigger than it is, EVEN if you changed everything..... Will skateboarding be the next Nascar? How about Snocross, Tractor pulls, Midget cars, Go carts.... Track and Field.... You guys who think MX is the next big thing are just being silly... its a major fringe sport, but a fringe sport non the less. It won't ever even go where MotoGP is... is doesn't have the exotica or pure speed. The skill required for MX doesn't equate to popularity. There is nothing anyone or anything can do about it. Sure it can get a little bigger, but it will never get HUGE. So stop with the bullshit it doesn't matter if MX gets bigger, why give a crap. Just have fun with it and ride.[/quote:dv7nbl9d]

even if everything was changed?

what youre basically saying, that even if everything was done the right way, there would be no difference because the skill required doesnt equate to popularity?

that has to be the dumbest thing ive read here in a while. anything can be made relatively popular/successful. so just shut up.[/quote:dv7nbl9d]

I don't get why you take my comment as an insult to the sport... and MX is already relatively popular just not hugely popular. that is my argument... and Yes no matter what the idiots who run it do, it will never be that big. But take consolation from the fact that niche is becoming its own market and I'm sure it will soon be available most the time on TV in a couple years.

I get goosebumps on the parade lap at the Nats, I have 3 bikes and love MX more than anything, but I still see its never going big time. We just had RC and James Stewart the greatest ever riders, yet nothing, no extra crowds no extra big sponsors. Still pathetically thanking sponsors on the podiums as if they rider isn't the power in our sport....

I hate to break your heart , but you have an ugly baby and you can't ,or you refuse to see it....

[quote="chrisgg90":rclo25kf]Tell me why is Nascar so popular in the US I have tried to watch it loads of times but it just bores the ass off me. Whats so exciting about loads of cars going round an oval track with no corners ect ??[/quote:rclo25kf]

Do you drink? Are you from the south?

And have you ever studied marketing?

NASCAR does well at all the above....

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There is no reason. And the doofs that think they can explain it are full of shite. Sometimes there just is no exact reason for "success". It's part timing, part luck, part hard work, part influx of $$, part fashion cycle, smart management, ....
[/quote:38k0wczp]

NASCAR's rise to prominence has been explained rationally and documented a thousand times and doofs like you that just don't get it or won't accept it and dismiss the process as irrational can't be helped. [/quote:38k0wczp]
That pretty much nails it on that.

As for SS's response, he is pretty much correct. MX can grow, but it will never be as big as NASCAR, MotoGP or F1 because it is a fringe sport and few people can relate to it or understand it. Everyone's been in a car and/or driven a car, and at some point thought or pretended to be Mario Andretti, Richard Petty or Ayrton Senna...even grandma

MX is a fractional sport split off a fractional hobby, motorcycling...SS is not far off the mark.

That is why it is so important that the powers that be need to do a much better job of marketing and promotion, because there's little margin for error financially in regards to securing sponsorship dollars

[quote="Hammer":1owl3x48][quote="chrisgg90":1owl3x48]Tell me why is Nascar so popular in the US I have tried to watch it loads of times but it just bores the ass off me. Whats so exciting about loads of cars going round an oval track with no corners ect ??[/quote:1owl3x48]

Do you drink? Are you from the south?

And have you ever studied marketing?

NASCAR does well at all the above....[/quote:1owl3x48]

Yeah I drink whats that got to do with sport??
No i'm from the Scotland in the UK
No never studied marketing

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There is no reason. And the doofs that think they can explain it are full of shite. Sometimes there just is no exact reason for "success". It's part timing, part luck, part hard work, part influx of $$, part fashion cycle, smart management, ....
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NASCAR's rise to prominence has been explained rationally and documented a thousand times and doofs like you that just don't get it or won't accept it and dismiss the process as irrational can't be helped. [/quote:x4f4gap9]

Maybe what I posted was over your head.

It's easy to come along afterwards and toss out "theories" on why an event occurred. But until you can repeat the experiment successfully a few times, all you have are theories. I stated some of the possible ingredients in the mix, but neither you nor anyone else can state, with any fact, that you know exactly why the event occurred.

There are a million variables and there is no way of knowing which one or what combination did the trick.

Nascar is popular because everybody drives a car and it "looks" easy enough that most people can harbour an inner fantasy about driving in the Daytona 500.

Most laymen that watch MX/SX think we're all a bunch of loony toons. They see it as more spectacle than sport.

[quote="Rooster":2om2l8sd]Nascar is popular because everybody drives a car and it "looks" easy enough that most people can harbour an inner fantasy about driving in the Daytona 500.

Most laymen that watch MX/SX think we're all a bunch of loony toons. They see it as more spectacle than sport.[/quote:2om2l8sd]

nascar is "popular" because it is awesome racing and an awesome tv program compared to what other people produce!