Stroupe? Don't know if its true

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3/14/2016 7:55pm
Sad news. Something was obviously up when he was on pulp MX last. I was wondering to myself if he was drunk or high during that phone call. Answer seems pretty obvious now.

Like a lot of people, I have lost friends to hardcore drugs. Cocaine and heroin to be exact. It's really fucking sad.

To any kids who may read this, gateway drugs are real. I have seen it play out. I have seen good people end up dead. Even if you get prescribed prescription pain meds, if you have any family history of addiction, DONT TAKE THE FUCKING PILLS! The temporary uncomfortableness is nothing compared to a life or even "just" a decade of dependency. If you stop and pay attention for a second all of the warning signs are there. If you choose to continue onwards for that very first time then the repercussions are all on you!

Sorry for the rant but this shit specifically really gets me going.
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3/14/2016 7:59pm
Jaybird67k wrote:
Maybe they think it can help someone or maybe they are just letting people know on a MX forum board about the happenings of a Pro...
Maybe they think it can help someone or maybe they are just letting people know on a MX forum board about the happenings of a Pro rider. How do you know Austin is having a hard time? That's pure speculation. You have to prove guilt. Was it his?
It is public information after all and the OP has freedom of speech. America !!!

Jason
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How do I know he's having a hard time?! Yeah, we have freedom of speech and can search out and start digging up anything and everything...
How do I know he's having a hard time?!

Yeah, we have freedom of speech and can search out and start digging up anything and everything on every rider, duh. So should we? Obviously you mind is too caught up in the yummy morsel of gossip rather than using a little discretion and common sense. You're right this is the new America, where we can do whatever we want, no one will tell us anything!

Yes, its news, duh. But if someone is genuinely concerned enough to search out gossip like this and go to the trouble to post it, why not dig a little deeper and find out how to send him some letters of encouragement, support, or general concern. Which would benefit him more?

Sounds hokey, right? Because that's clearly not what the OP had in mind.

I don't think this stuff should be kept behind closed doors, and I'm willing to bet that if Austin seriously wants to kick his addiction that he would want it put out there as well. I've learned so much about addiction and how easy it could be to get hooked on things from these threads, and I'm sure others have as well. The personal testimonials about family members, friends, and even some of our own that have battled addiction are pretty powerful, and if that keeps others from going down that same road then I don't see why this needs to be swept under the rug. If I ever have another injury that leads to the need for pain meds, you can be damn sure I'll be a lot more careful about them than I would have been out of pure ignorance. Just a thought. . .
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3/14/2016 8:10pm
Everybody's got an opinion on this so I suppose it's barely worth typing this, but here goes anyway. I've lost good fiends, relatives and even a parent to addiction. I also have no sympathy for addicts.

Be stronger.

I've had accidents with many, many broken bones. Surgeries. Major shoulder surgery. Many times where doctors put me on narcotics. As soon as I got out of the hospital I always got off the narcotics as soon as possible. Always way sooner than the docs thought I should. Pain sucks, but it is way better to put up with pain than a possible life long addiction.

Maybe I'm lucky that I watched my dad ruin his life. Because of him I generally take the hard way. Nothing easily gained is worth anything. Learn to enjoy the pains that come with life. Consider yourself a fighter and a survivor. Take pride in being strong.

This is from my experience. Most will have a different experience. Hopefully though, somebody out there will read this or something like it and think twice before taking a pill, because for many ONE pill is all it takes to start you down a really bad road.

As for Austin, good luck. I always enjoyed watching you ride and you seem like a genuinely good hearted guy. I hope you're the one in a thousand that can beat opiate addiction.
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3/14/2016 8:23pm
Some of you condemning the OP for this thread could look at it as I did. I called my son into the room and talked to him about this.

We have been around this sport for years, my son has been racing for 10 years and Austin used to be at the tracks we rode at. To watch a very talented young man go from a great Amateur career to a full blown factory ride, only to lose it after what I felt was the Atlanta round when he cased that triple, its a learning lesson for others. You can be on top one day and the next at the bottom.

I choose to take the lesson Austin is giving us to talk with my kid about the dangers of these hard core drugs and the effects it has on not only the user, but the family and friends.

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3/14/2016 8:32pm
I wish him luck. I hope in time we are on here talking about Austin kicking his habit and being healthy. Heroin usage is exploding in this country and the problem is everyone wants to blame it on someone else. People don't like to hear that but it's the truth. instead of each entity blaming the next we need to come up with a solution for those who actually want help. I deal with people on this crap every single day, I have been seeing multiple overdoses weekly. A lot of people over dosing are assholes who have never even held a job or been injured. They use drugs so often that they'll take whatever they can get their hands on. Heroin comes in because it's cheap and it gets them high. There are, of course, those circumstances where the addict was leading a seemingly normal life, had a job, family, etc. They're often times the ones that piss me off more because most of those people are so ashamed that they don't even attempt to get help.
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3/14/2016 8:36pm
All the people posting bullshit about being stronger or vilifying drug use must have low eQ. Saturday night I lost a close friend to a decade long heroin addiction. It's not about being stronger or illicit behavior. It's a solution to a person that has a need. Heroin is their best solution and giving up that is why it is so hard when their life can't fulfill their emotional needs.

Legalization of all drugs would save Austin's life from all of these unnecessary complications, let alone tax payer's expense, and saved my friend's life.
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3/14/2016 8:43pm
ML512 wrote:
You sound just like one of my family member's with that excuse. Bullshit, it's up to the person to manage their pain and use of the...
You sound just like one of my family member's with that excuse. Bullshit, it's up to the person to manage their pain and use of the pills. It's not that hard to not take them.
You are no better than anybody else here, and you are no better than Austin Stroupe, even though you think you are...
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3/14/2016 8:46pm
Jaybird67k wrote:
Maybe they think it can help someone or maybe they are just letting people know on a MX forum board about the happenings of a Pro...
Maybe they think it can help someone or maybe they are just letting people know on a MX forum board about the happenings of a Pro rider. How do you know Austin is having a hard time? That's pure speculation. You have to prove guilt. Was it his?
It is public information after all and the OP has freedom of speech. America !!!

Jason
burn1986 wrote:
How do I know he's having a hard time?! Yeah, we have freedom of speech and can search out and start digging up anything and everything...
How do I know he's having a hard time?!

Yeah, we have freedom of speech and can search out and start digging up anything and everything on every rider, duh. So should we? Obviously you mind is too caught up in the yummy morsel of gossip rather than using a little discretion and common sense. You're right this is the new America, where we can do whatever we want, no one will tell us anything!

Yes, its news, duh. But if someone is genuinely concerned enough to search out gossip like this and go to the trouble to post it, why not dig a little deeper and find out how to send him some letters of encouragement, support, or general concern. Which would benefit him more?

Sounds hokey, right? Because that's clearly not what the OP had in mind.

JM485 wrote:
I don't think this stuff should be kept behind closed doors, and I'm willing to bet that if Austin seriously wants to kick his addiction that...
I don't think this stuff should be kept behind closed doors, and I'm willing to bet that if Austin seriously wants to kick his addiction that he would want it put out there as well. I've learned so much about addiction and how easy it could be to get hooked on things from these threads, and I'm sure others have as well. The personal testimonials about family members, friends, and even some of our own that have battled addiction are pretty powerful, and if that keeps others from going down that same road then I don't see why this needs to be swept under the rug. If I ever have another injury that leads to the need for pain meds, you can be damn sure I'll be a lot more careful about them than I would have been out of pure ignorance. Just a thought. . .
Exactly the way I feel about it too Josh. Hiding it just makes it worse. Get it out in the open and deal with it.

I get this really bad feeling about Austin right now. He had a little come back , made some good money and decided to go party it up. THAT is probably the EXACT reason why he got out of the lime light and money to begin with. He probably had a feeling that if his bank account was going to grow , it would just make it that much easier to get back into doing the stuff he shouldn't be.
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3/14/2016 9:23pm
I just hope he gets some help, or is strong enough to help himself.
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3/14/2016 9:25pm
He was just as fast as canard coming up. I can't believe guys could throw it all away like him and j law. They have no idea the money they could be making, setting themselves up for the rest of their lives.. Just unbelievable
3/14/2016 9:48pm
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This thread really makes my feel like shit. I hate hearing about it , as I've lost three friends to this heroin shit! FUCK! About 5yrs...
This thread really makes my feel like shit. I hate hearing about it , as I've lost three friends to this heroin shit! FUCK!

About 5yrs ago I posted this thread. I lost one before it and one after. Makes me sick to my stomach.

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Non-Moto,21/Losing-a-friend-to-drugs,1213…
Jeffro, just read your thread about Brad. It was before my time here but I'm sorry for your loss. I hope his kids are doing well.

Just listened to stroupe on the pulp mx show earlier today and he sounded like he was using something. Steve, Travis and Adam all seemed to feel the same. What do you do...
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3/14/2016 9:52pm
waitn4 wrote:
All the people posting bullshit about being stronger or vilifying drug use must have low eQ. Saturday night I lost a close friend to a decade...
All the people posting bullshit about being stronger or vilifying drug use must have low eQ. Saturday night I lost a close friend to a decade long heroin addiction. It's not about being stronger or illicit behavior. It's a solution to a person that has a need. Heroin is their best solution and giving up that is why it is so hard when their life can't fulfill their emotional needs.

Legalization of all drugs would save Austin's life from all of these unnecessary complications, let alone tax payer's expense, and saved my friend's life.
How would it have saved his life? No offense but that makes zero sense. So you're saying that if drugs were legal then they would no longer be addictive? Your friend got addicted to drugs because of a combination of an addictive personality and the addictive nature of drugs. Not because they're illegal. Please explain, because it makes no sense. I understand your resentment on the focus of the legal aspects rather than rehabilitative aspects, but the fact that they're illegal has no bearing on your friend becoming addicted. It's not illegal to go to rehab and get whatever help you need to break the habit.
3/14/2016 9:54pm
If you want to blame the system you can point your finger right at the Affordable Care Act. It put more emphasis on patient satisfaction than actual health outcomes. Hospital reimbursement used to be structured around good health outcomes. Now it is based on how satisfied our patients are.

I don't want to turn this entirely political but at this point hospitals reimbursements are based on survey results and one of those questions is always about how well they managed your pain. It is no skin off a doctors back to provide a script for narcotics if it helps them receive better survey results. Welcome to Affordable Care. It doesn't make people better.
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3/14/2016 10:23pm Edited Date/Time 3/14/2016 10:26pm
I think maybe Ben Riddle should give inspirational talks at MX events about his past success, the dark times he went through and how he pulled through to become the man he is today. I salute Ben for his current success. He is without doubt living proof that one can learn from mistakes and become a reputable citizen of society.

Great job Ben. You are a Legend.

Prevention is always better than cure and If this message can be often shared and one kid is saved then it is worth it.

I really hope Stroupe draws the positives out of these dark times...

I know of one current Pro who often makes the mains who is treading on thin Ice. Lets hope he reads this and pulls his socks up.
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3/14/2016 10:41pm
Cygnus wrote:
Ahh shit! That's not good. It's all the doctors and government fault. They prsscribe lots of pills and then cut people off of the pills and...
Ahh shit! That's not good. It's all the doctors and government fault. They prsscribe lots of pills and then cut people off of the pills and then they have no where to turn but H and street pills. Time for rehab for AS now. Lots of probation hoops too.
ML512 wrote:
You sound just like one of my family member's with that excuse. Bullshit, it's up to the person to manage their pain and use of the...
You sound just like one of my family member's with that excuse. Bullshit, it's up to the person to manage their pain and use of the pills. It's not that hard to not take them.
Since you have stated your opinion on the subject, I'd like to ask you about your Injuries and surgeries that have helped you form that opinion. I'm asking as I have some experience (ongoing) with pain management. I'd like to hear more about this. Thanks.
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3/14/2016 10:48pm Edited Date/Time 3/14/2016 10:50pm
ML512 wrote:
You sound just like one of my family member's with that excuse. Bullshit, it's up to the person to manage their pain and use of the...
You sound just like one of my family member's with that excuse. Bullshit, it's up to the person to manage their pain and use of the pills. It's not that hard to not take them.
disbanded wrote:
You are no better than anybody else here, and you are no better than Austin Stroupe, even though you think you are...
Why? ML and hammertime hit home runs here. Don't even risk taking them from the get go. My 16 year old son sent his humorous through his glenoid socket and busted it into 6 pieces at the Kelowna provincial this past labour day weekend. He was given prescription pain killers...he never took a single one. He piggy backed tylenol and advil every two hrs. He said he'd rather feel "here" with discomfort then "out of it" and no pain. His pill intake was less then half after two days...and zero worries of withdrawls. Prescription pain killers are bad news..period. I really hope Austin gets it sorted out once and for all. It was so awesome to see him riding again, and his interviews were clear and articulate. You could tell he was clean. Whatever it was that made him slip up, I hope he can hit reset again.
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3/14/2016 11:30pm Edited Date/Time 3/14/2016 11:31pm
Out of curiosity – how many people in this thread have been addicted to opioids?
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Moto331 wrote:
He was just as fast as canard coming up. I can't believe guys could throw it all away like him and j law. They have no...
He was just as fast as canard coming up. I can't believe guys could throw it all away like him and j law. They have no idea the money they could be making, setting themselves up for the rest of their lives.. Just unbelievable
Kinda says something about the power of drugs and what it does to your mind.
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3/14/2016 11:33pm Edited Date/Time 3/14/2016 11:34pm
Torco1 wrote:
I'll begin by saying I'm not defending nor badmouthing heroin, weed, alcohol, etc......but really......who the fuck cares what other peoples vices are? Everyone is talking about...
I'll begin by saying I'm not defending nor badmouthing heroin, weed, alcohol, etc......but really......who the fuck cares what other peoples vices are? Everyone is talking about Stroupe and what happened.....what if he has no desire to stop using those things right now?......and if he doesn't, who are we to say anything about it? There are lots of people on this site right now that drink heavily, there are probably some that get violent when drunk.....kick the shit out of their wife and kids. Does that make them better because it's alcohol and not heroin or pot? How many times do you read about heroin addicts wiping out an entire family in a car crash? I hear that a lot, but with alcohol instead.
Then there's the talk about addicts being weak, again......who's to say they even want to quit? Just because they enjoy the feeling an opiate gives them rather than booze, that makes them a piece of shit? Really? How many of you have been hurt and were given morphine and liked the way it felt? Well, sorry to tall you, but if you did....you'd like heroin.
So for everyone that smokes cigarettes, pot, drinks alcohol, is addicted to porn, speeding in a car, addicted to caffeine, gambling, is a pedophile, etc.....congratulations, you're better than a person that enjoys the way opiates, meth, Ecstasy, and so on makes them feel. God I hate people....
Fantastic post Torco! One of the best I've ever read on this site.

There's a certain old Hank Williams song that comes to mind that the sanctimonious folk among us should listen to daily...
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Beating addictions isn't about "manning up"; it is a disease. You, ML512, nor anyone else has any inherent character qualities or strength that addicts lack. Different...
Beating addictions isn't about "manning up"; it is a disease. You, ML512, nor anyone else has any inherent character qualities or strength that addicts lack. Different drugs affect people differently; taking drugs literally changes the brain's structure.

In the past two decades, research has increasingly supported the view that addiction is a disease of the brain. Although the brain disease model of addiction has yielded effective preventive measures, treatment interventions, and public health policies to address substance-use disorders, the underlying concept of substance abuse as a brain disease continues to be questioned, perhaps because the aberrant, impulsive, and compulsive behaviors that are characteristic of addiction have not been clearly tied to neurobiology...We conclude that neuroscience continues to support the brain disease model of addiction.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMra1511480

I just hope he gets back on track, and a part of that will be taking personal responsibility. Best of luck to Stroupe.
Not mine, but I like it. I've also had multiple oxy prescrips and always save about a third for later, be it for pain or partying.

"Americans, let's face it: We've been a spoiled country for a long time.
Do you know what the number one health risk in America is?
Obesity. They say we're in the middle of an obesity epidemic."

What do they call that? Not a disease, self-discipline, that's it.
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3/14/2016 11:45pm
Speaking of drugs....any words on Izzi?
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Out of curiosity – how many people in this thread have been addicted to opioids?
I have struggled for a good number of years and still have a hard time but fortunately have not turned to the heavy shit. My problem is codeine but am addressing it with professional help.
3/15/2016 12:26am
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I disagree that opioids are a necessary prescription. I don't want to make this sound like I'm Mr. gone through everything guy but here's a quick...
I disagree that opioids are a necessary prescription. I don't want to make this sound like I'm Mr. gone through everything guy but here's a quick little rundown. I have broken 20 bones, finally did a c-6 c-7 burst fracture in my neck 18 years ago. I was hospitalized for seven months and paralyzed from the tits down for a period of that time until I "loosened up" my right side ended up getting better, pretty much full mobility and strength. My left side limps badly and my left hand is pretty much paralyzed. Throughout all of that, and with the limp I have severe pain and inflammation through my right side and I never took the opioids that have been prescribed to me.... I've got perks in my house, I literally might take one three times a year for what I would call a pain vacation.... But nobody needs them. That's bullshit. If you got intolerable pain go for a nerve pain blocker such as Lyrica. All these guys that are on the shit, these opioids.... It's nothing that Tylenol and advil won't really do.... I think a lot of dudes just like to be fucked up on the shit. It feels great let's call a spade a spade here. Anyhow that's my ramble. I think people are weak, sometimes you just have to tough it out like I do every day !
I agree, they aren't necessary. But that doesn't make them any less addictive. So many times at work I pass out doses of dilaudid and Benadryl that are large enough to put someone to sleep for hours, or sedate a horse. But those addicts are right back on the call light 20 minutes later asking for harder drugs because they built up a tolerance to the usual stuff.

It's a vicious cycle that doesn't end well. You should see how busy we get when a bad batch of heroin makes its way in to the local drug supply. Haha
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3/15/2016 12:59am
Torco1 wrote:
I'll begin by saying I'm not defending nor badmouthing heroin, weed, alcohol, etc......but really......who the fuck cares what other peoples vices are? Everyone is talking about...
I'll begin by saying I'm not defending nor badmouthing heroin, weed, alcohol, etc......but really......who the fuck cares what other peoples vices are? Everyone is talking about Stroupe and what happened.....what if he has no desire to stop using those things right now?......and if he doesn't, who are we to say anything about it? There are lots of people on this site right now that drink heavily, there are probably some that get violent when drunk.....kick the shit out of their wife and kids. Does that make them better because it's alcohol and not heroin or pot? How many times do you read about heroin addicts wiping out an entire family in a car crash? I hear that a lot, but with alcohol instead.
Then there's the talk about addicts being weak, again......who's to say they even want to quit? Just because they enjoy the feeling an opiate gives them rather than booze, that makes them a piece of shit? Really? How many of you have been hurt and were given morphine and liked the way it felt? Well, sorry to tall you, but if you did....you'd like heroin.
So for everyone that smokes cigarettes, pot, drinks alcohol, is addicted to porn, speeding in a car, addicted to caffeine, gambling, is a pedophile, etc.....congratulations, you're better than a person that enjoys the way opiates, meth, Ecstasy, and so on makes them feel. God I hate people....
c_dub wrote:
Fantastic post Torco! One of the best I've ever read on this site. There's a certain old Hank Williams song that comes to mind that the...
Fantastic post Torco! One of the best I've ever read on this site.

There's a certain old Hank Williams song that comes to mind that the sanctimonious folk among us should listen to daily...
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Torco1 wrote:
I'm more concerned about the "failure to maintain lane control"......that could mean he has an alignment problem and if he doesn't have it looked at soon...
I'm more concerned about the "failure to maintain lane control"......that could mean he has an alignment problem and if he doesn't have it looked at soon, it could really cost him with premature tire wear. They don't just give tires away....in fact, tires are one of the least discounted automotive products out there. Modern pneumatic tires are synthetic rubber, natural rubber, fabric and wire, along with carbon black and other chemical compounds. These are very costly items and unless we find a way to manufacture a superior tire to what we have today, then I'm afraid we will continue to absorb these costly materials into our bank accounts. Now, it's possible he was driving on a dirt road or perhaps there was snow covering the road, these two circumstances could've possibly played a factor in the overall event which would've indeed resulted in less tire wear as opposed to driving on concrete. However, standard road tires are not the optimum solution when driving in snowy, rainy or on gravel or dirt roads. The weather specific tread patterns are not sufficient enough to allow for proper vehicle traction on paved roads either and this could've in fact been one of the factors leading to the "failure to maintain lane control"..........that, or it was because he was freebasing weed and heroin all day.....I don't know, I wasn't there....it's just to early to tell. My money though is still on the bald tire theory.



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Beating addictions isn't about "manning up"; it is a disease. You, ML512, nor anyone else has any inherent character qualities or strength that addicts lack. Different...
Beating addictions isn't about "manning up"; it is a disease. You, ML512, nor anyone else has any inherent character qualities or strength that addicts lack. Different drugs affect people differently; taking drugs literally changes the brain's structure.

In the past two decades, research has increasingly supported the view that addiction is a disease of the brain. Although the brain disease model of addiction has yielded effective preventive measures, treatment interventions, and public health policies to address substance-use disorders, the underlying concept of substance abuse as a brain disease continues to be questioned, perhaps because the aberrant, impulsive, and compulsive behaviors that are characteristic of addiction have not been clearly tied to neurobiology...We conclude that neuroscience continues to support the brain disease model of addiction.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMra1511480

I just hope he gets back on track, and a part of that will be taking personal responsibility. Best of luck to Stroupe.
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Sorry Jimmy Sloan. The real experts post on Vital MX and they've already spoken on the addiction issue.

Move a long.
peelout wrote:
move a long what?!

the suspension is killing me, bro
"the suspension is killing me"

You must ride a KTM.
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It really is amazing what 3 ibuprofen at a time can do for pain. Both times I broke ribs I would take 3 every 4 hours at work and it was tolerable.

When I had my achilles repaired I took the opiates for the first few days after the surgery. I was scared to death of getting hooked on them, but after taking them I didn't see what the big deal was with people getting hooked. I think it's more people with the partying mentality that like to take the pills and zone out and "chill."

You have to have some self discipline. I'd like to blow my whole retirement on rockymountainmc, and as easy as they make it to do that it would only take a couple minutes. Hell, I get on there to get 25$ worth of stuff and before long I'm thinking "a little more and I can get free shipping" then 100$ turns into 150 and so on......eventually I usually empty the cart back out and get what I went there for.

It's gotten too easy to blame others for their own problems. I feel bad for Stroup. He probably got back into racing mostly to have fun and feel good about himself and keep it simple......and before long he let himself get right back into the factory rider rat race. He probably should have respectfully declined the ride and kept it simple.
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Beating addictions isn't about "manning up"; it is a disease. You, ML512, nor anyone else has any inherent character qualities or strength that addicts lack. Different...
Beating addictions isn't about "manning up"; it is a disease. You, ML512, nor anyone else has any inherent character qualities or strength that addicts lack. Different drugs affect people differently; taking drugs literally changes the brain's structure.

In the past two decades, research has increasingly supported the view that addiction is a disease of the brain. Although the brain disease model of addiction has yielded effective preventive measures, treatment interventions, and public health policies to address substance-use disorders, the underlying concept of substance abuse as a brain disease continues to be questioned, perhaps because the aberrant, impulsive, and compulsive behaviors that are characteristic of addiction have not been clearly tied to neurobiology...We conclude that neuroscience continues to support the brain disease model of addiction.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMra1511480

I just hope he gets back on track, and a part of that will be taking personal responsibility. Best of luck to Stroupe.
The first step in beating addiction is not taking the god damn drugs in the first place. And even if you did try it once, unless you started off with a hard drug like heroin you have plenty of opportunity to stop taking them. Your brain structure isn't altered after taking 3 pills.

The harm you do to your body by taking drugs is 100% self-inflicted and can therefore never be considered a disease. The "state" your brain is in after prolonged drug abuse may be called a disease in neurobiology, but that doesn't take into account that it is a man-made disease, which makes it inherently difference from any other disease.

I don't feel sorry for drug abusers, I feel sorry for the 1000s of people everyday that hear they have idiopathic cancer, or any other REAL disease they did not inflict upon themselves.
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3/15/2016 4:06am
HenryA wrote:
Speaking of drugs....any words on Izzi?
I see he is on the Entry list for the James Stewart Spring Classic- Open Pro Sport and Plus 25 so hopefully that is a good sign.
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3/15/2016 4:20am
Cygnus wrote:
Ahh shit! That's not good. It's all the doctors and government fault. They prsscribe lots of pills and then cut people off of the pills and...
Ahh shit! That's not good. It's all the doctors and government fault. They prsscribe lots of pills and then cut people off of the pills and then they have no where to turn but H and street pills. Time for rehab for AS now. Lots of probation hoops too.
ML512 wrote:
You sound just like one of my family member's with that excuse. Bullshit, it's up to the person to manage their pain and use of the...
You sound just like one of my family member's with that excuse. Bullshit, it's up to the person to manage their pain and use of the pills. It's not that hard to not take them.
The Rock wrote:
It is easy for you and me not to take them. Beyond that it depends on whether or not you believe in addictive personality types. In...
It is easy for you and me not to take them.

Beyond that it depends on whether or not you believe in addictive personality types. In my experience some people cannot control their urges for opiates and alcohol while others obviously can.

I'm not perfect so can accept that others don't possess the same self control over drugs and alcohol that I have. Doesn't make me better or smarter just fortunate.


Yes sir indeed, we all have our weakness

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