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Cygnus wrote:
Ahh shit! That's not good. It's all the doctors and government fault. They prsscribe lots of pills and then cut people off of the pills and...
Ahh shit! That's not good. It's all the doctors and government fault. They prsscribe lots of pills and then cut people off of the pills and then they have no where to turn but H and street pills. Time for rehab for AS now. Lots of probation hoops too.
ML512 wrote:
You sound just like one of my family member's with that excuse. Bullshit, it's up to the person to manage their pain and use of the...
You sound just like one of my family member's with that excuse. Bullshit, it's up to the person to manage their pain and use of the pills. It's not that hard to not take them.
I agree with you. The "prescribed pills" excuse is the most stupid excuse ever.

The people that get into "real" drugs would get into them even without a pain pill addiction in the future.
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Cygnus wrote:
Ahh shit! That's not good. It's all the doctors and government fault. They prsscribe lots of pills and then cut people off of the pills and...
Ahh shit! That's not good. It's all the doctors and government fault. They prsscribe lots of pills and then cut people off of the pills and then they have no where to turn but H and street pills. Time for rehab for AS now. Lots of probation hoops too.
ML512 wrote:
You sound just like one of my family member's with that excuse. Bullshit, it's up to the person to manage their pain and use of the...
You sound just like one of my family member's with that excuse. Bullshit, it's up to the person to manage their pain and use of the pills. It's not that hard to not take them.
True, I'm on Oxycon from mine 17, I'm now 25 still taking it. Every morning one pill, every evening one pill. And yes when I forget to take one in the morning, my stomach starts to hurt somewhere in the afternoon. But that's the same with Cola users, Red Bull users, ... just some physical withdrawn. But my doc says: 'Real addicts don't forget to take their pills, they are not physical hooked, they are mentally hooked and need their thing from the moment they are awake."

So again I understand that AS, could and possibly would have physical withdraw but he got mentally hooked because those pills were also numbing mental pain and not only physical.

Not saying this is the case with AS. But also when people, who first needed painkillers and then start using them as smoke. That' not the fault of the pharmacy. That just the fault of the shithead, without a brain doing it.

Bye the way: The USA is always screaming bit about the war against drug but those pain clinics in Florida are selling Oxy like water to people who are not in need of any.
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Cygnus wrote:
Ahh shit! That's not good. It's all the doctors and government fault. They prsscribe lots of pills and then cut people off of the pills and...
Ahh shit! That's not good. It's all the doctors and government fault. They prsscribe lots of pills and then cut people off of the pills and then they have no where to turn but H and street pills. Time for rehab for AS now. Lots of probation hoops too.
ML512 wrote:
You sound just like one of my family member's with that excuse. Bullshit, it's up to the person to manage their pain and use of the...
You sound just like one of my family member's with that excuse. Bullshit, it's up to the person to manage their pain and use of the pills. It's not that hard to not take them.
Motofinne wrote:
I agree with you. The "prescribed pills" excuse is the most stupid excuse ever. The people that get into "real" drugs would get into them even...
I agree with you. The "prescribed pills" excuse is the most stupid excuse ever.

The people that get into "real" drugs would get into them even without a pain pill addiction in the future.
That's a big call!! Tell me all about your experance on this matter....??? A lot of people throwing a lot of shit with no idea that's for sure!!
mjr119 3/14/2016 3:20pm
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Fuuuuuck. Not what I wanted to see. Nothing wrong with a lil MJ but I hope you kick the H. Good luck.

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gharmon 3/14/2016 3:21pm
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Yep, it's on the person. I was taking oxy codon 10mg every 3 hours (8 a day) for 2 months straight for nerve damage caused from a shattered hip. When it finally calmed down there was no desire to keep eating them. I don't see how these folks ain't all fucked up in the bottom end. Shit kept me stopped the fuck up!

Man the fuck up like the person above said!! There isn't any self responsibility left anymore. Let's just blame someone else for being a fuck up.

Also the above mention reference about giving the shit out like candy a few years ago is true but they sure are cracking down on the Drs now. Everyone I work with have stopped passing them out so easy. Doesn't stop those little whiney addicts from showing up acting like they dying from pain. First thing out their mouth is "I ain't here looking for drugs" but when they don't get them, man can they show their ass!!
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ML512 wrote:
You sound just like one of my family member's with that excuse. Bullshit, it's up to the person to manage their pain and use of the...
You sound just like one of my family member's with that excuse. Bullshit, it's up to the person to manage their pain and use of the pills. It's not that hard to not take them.
Motofinne wrote:
I agree with you. The "prescribed pills" excuse is the most stupid excuse ever. The people that get into "real" drugs would get into them even...
I agree with you. The "prescribed pills" excuse is the most stupid excuse ever.

The people that get into "real" drugs would get into them even without a pain pill addiction in the future.
Helder wrote:
That's a big call!! Tell me all about your experance on this matter....??? A lot of people throwing a lot of shit with no idea that's...
That's a big call!! Tell me all about your experance on this matter....??? A lot of people throwing a lot of shit with no idea that's for sure!!
I think what he's saying is that it's an addictive personality issue, not a drug issue. The same person could be an alcoholic who has never done drugs or an overly obese person who's never smoked and drank in their life. Something in their mind has given them an addictive personality, releasing endorphins in their head when they get their "fix," whatever it is. Hell, you can be addicted to working and work yourself to death. It's not just a substance issue.
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Motofinne 3/14/2016 3:28pm
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Motofinne wrote:
I agree with you. The "prescribed pills" excuse is the most stupid excuse ever. The people that get into "real" drugs would get into them even...
I agree with you. The "prescribed pills" excuse is the most stupid excuse ever.

The people that get into "real" drugs would get into them even without a pain pill addiction in the future.
Helder wrote:
That's a big call!! Tell me all about your experance on this matter....??? A lot of people throwing a lot of shit with no idea that's...
That's a big call!! Tell me all about your experance on this matter....??? A lot of people throwing a lot of shit with no idea that's for sure!!
aFACEdismembered wrote:
I think what he's saying is that it's an addictive personality issue, not a drug issue. The same person could be an alcoholic who has never...
I think what he's saying is that it's an addictive personality issue, not a drug issue. The same person could be an alcoholic who has never done drugs or an overly obese person who's never smoked and drank in their life. Something in their mind has given them an addictive personality, releasing endorphins in their head when they get their "fix," whatever it is. Hell, you can be addicted to working and work yourself to death. It's not just a substance issue.
Thank you, you explained it perfectly!
motokiwi 3/14/2016 3:30pm
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yeah it's the prison's or societies fault....they made him race, the made him crash, they made him take drugs, all to fill beds in prison...wow! I...
yeah it's the prison's or societies fault....they made him race, the made him crash, they made him take drugs, all to fill beds in prison...wow! I know you were just throwing stuff out there, BUT everybody makes their decision, 99% of people are in jail because they broke the law. Now if you tell me that you run a halfway house and spend all your own money on rehab drug addicts and saving their lives much respect to you, however if you are just blowin wind, blaming society for some dudes wasted life (pro athlete or not). Yeah really dont' care, plenty of people with struggles who are doing the right thing to try and make something of themselves, yep a good motto may be, help yourself before asking for help...

and no I'm not perfect and screwed up plenty like most people, and eventually grew up and took accountability....like most people!
Everyone is a product of their surroundings. This is a proven fact.

I find it weird that the USA thinks its fine to give out opiate pain meds like they are candy ( / pain clinics etc etc).

This creates some seriously fucked up surroundings for people to be products of.
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I really dislike these posts.
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Go back and listen to pulp show from last week. Sounded like he was pulling a bong hit during his interview.
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Nom DeGuerre 3/14/2016 3:36pm
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FFS...is there any such thing as personal accountability or responsibility any more?
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I'm more concerned about the "failure to maintain lane control"......that could mean he has an alignment problem and if he doesn't have it looked at soon, it could really cost him with premature tire wear. They don't just give tires away....in fact, tires are one of the least discounted automotive products out there. Modern pneumatic tires are synthetic rubber, natural rubber, fabric and wire, along with carbon black and other chemical compounds. These are very costly items and unless we find a way to manufacture a superior tire to what we have today, then I'm afraid we will continue to absorb these costly materials into our bank accounts. Now, it's possible he was driving on a dirt road or perhaps there was snow covering the road, these two circumstances could've possibly played a factor in the overall event which would've indeed resulted in less tire wear as opposed to driving on concrete. However, standard road tires are not the optimum solution when driving in snowy, rainy or on gravel or dirt roads. The weather specific tread patterns are not sufficient enough to allow for proper vehicle traction on paved roads either and this could've in fact been one of the factors leading to the "failure to maintain lane control"..........that, or it was because he was freebasing weed and heroin all day.....I don't know, I wasn't there....it's just to early to tell. My money though is still on the bald tire theory.



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racer495a 3/14/2016 3:39pm
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Nom DeGuerre wrote:
FFS...is there any such thing as personal accountability or responsibility any more?
No because it's easier to just blame Obama lol
Icespikes 3/14/2016 3:44pm
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Brad460 wrote:
"Don't know if it's true" but post it anyways for the attention ...Pinch
Vital should change its name to 'don't know if it's true' hahaha

Poor stroupy
He is such a sick rider
He needed a chance to get back to the elite level!
Still hope someone takes a chance on him , even if it's true
harrowguy 3/14/2016 3:45pm
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People get hooked on oxy's etc.
Government makes them harder (more expensive) to get so kids had to turn to heroin to get their opiate fix.

So now people have a felony and can't get a job.

So what are they supposed to do now?

Check out our system over here .......

Just like your crazy system how weed it legal in one state and illegal in the next.

It's just going to get worse.
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What a slap in the face to the people who helped him out with bikes, parts and riding gear. He was to broke to buy his own bike but had extra money laying around for heroin? He deserves what he gets. I view drug use as choice. I have ass loads of pain everyday. So what? Pain is part of life. On the pain killer side they need to take opiates out of the products so people don't use them for the high. Highly doubt there would be an epidemic in the USA if they did that.
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peelout 3/14/2016 3:51pm
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lot of drug use experts in these parts. it sucks that he hasn't cleaned it up yet, real shitty deal.

my cousin went down the Heroin path, scary shit and luckily he did jail time and is cleaned up. hope the same for Austin
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Torco1 wrote:
I'm more concerned about the "failure to maintain lane control"......that could mean he has an alignment problem and if he doesn't have it looked at soon...
I'm more concerned about the "failure to maintain lane control"......that could mean he has an alignment problem and if he doesn't have it looked at soon, it could really cost him with premature tire wear. They don't just give tires away....in fact, tires are one of the least discounted automotive products out there. Modern pneumatic tires are synthetic rubber, natural rubber, fabric and wire, along with carbon black and other chemical compounds. These are very costly items and unless we find a way to manufacture a superior tire to what we have today, then I'm afraid we will continue to absorb these costly materials into our bank accounts. Now, it's possible he was driving on a dirt road or perhaps there was snow covering the road, these two circumstances could've possibly played a factor in the overall event which would've indeed resulted in less tire wear as opposed to driving on concrete. However, standard road tires are not the optimum solution when driving in snowy, rainy or on gravel or dirt roads. The weather specific tread patterns are not sufficient enough to allow for proper vehicle traction on paved roads either and this could've in fact been one of the factors leading to the "failure to maintain lane control"..........that, or it was because he was freebasing weed and heroin all day.....I don't know, I wasn't there....it's just to early to tell. My money though is still on the bald tire theory.



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Jimmy_Sloan 3/14/2016 3:52pm
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ML512 wrote:
You sound just like one of my family member's with that excuse. Bullshit, it's up to the person to manage their pain and use of the...
You sound just like one of my family member's with that excuse. Bullshit, it's up to the person to manage their pain and use of the pills. It's not that hard to not take them.
Andy_Greenney wrote:
Could have just said "Needs to man up".
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He could have but thats the problem, people don't like to hear it like it is. ML512 was exactly right. Quit blaming other people for your...
He could have but thats the problem, people don't like to hear it like it is. ML512 was exactly right. Quit blaming other people for your issues. It's BS.
Beating addictions isn't about "manning up"; it is a disease. You, ML512, nor anyone else has any inherent character qualities or strength that addicts lack. Different drugs affect people differently; taking drugs literally changes the brain's structure.

In the past two decades, research has increasingly supported the view that addiction is a disease of the brain. Although the brain disease model of addiction has yielded effective preventive measures, treatment interventions, and public health policies to address substance-use disorders, the underlying concept of substance abuse as a brain disease continues to be questioned, perhaps because the aberrant, impulsive, and compulsive behaviors that are characteristic of addiction have not been clearly tied to neurobiology...We conclude that neuroscience continues to support the brain disease model of addiction.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMra1511480

I just hope he gets back on track, and a part of that will be taking personal responsibility. Best of luck to Stroupe.
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jimmie 3/14/2016 3:58pm
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DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!

A bit off topic but here goes....

Personally I have done all kinds of drugs in my early years 15-20 years of age (1975-1980). Everything from pot, angel dust(PCP), cocaine, LSD...etc. on a daily basis. NEVER HEROIN

Honestly, has anyone here ever used this shit? Can you cope/function in a normal day to day routine? Drive a car, ride a motocross track etc.?
I've done some stuff where you just have to sit back and "enjoy" the ride, but not live as done normally!

Can't these users just do this shit kind of stealth? (at home after the work day is done) Chances of being busted are far less likely in these instances.

This heroine "epidemic" is just too common now with good upstanding people.

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?

Hope the best for Austin.
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Brad460 wrote:
"Don't know if it's true" but post it anyways for the attention ...Pinch
It's not the first time I've seen that today. Based on who I got it from earlier, I'd say it's true.
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JerseyFresh 3/14/2016 4:09pm
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That just sucks. I knew it when he was on pulp. You can hear in someone's voice when they're on dope. It's strained. Hope dude can pull it together. And stop with all the addiction finger pointing shit. I'm not saying addicts are innocent, 90% of the dope heads I know were shit heads long before they got hooked on heroin but that doesn't make them bad people. They just make stupid decisions. Not saying they're Angels, just sayin.
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harrowguy wrote:
People get hooked on oxy's etc. Government makes them harder (more expensive) to get so kids had to turn to heroin to get their opiate fix...
People get hooked on oxy's etc.
Government makes them harder (more expensive) to get so kids had to turn to heroin to get their opiate fix.

So now people have a felony and can't get a job.

So what are they supposed to do now?

Check out our system over here .......

Just like your crazy system how weed it legal in one state and illegal in the next.

It's just going to get worse.
You know why stadiums charge high prices for beer at stadiums? So fans can't afford to get all blotto during events.

But blaming the government for high drug prices is misguided at best.
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JerseyFresh 3/14/2016 4:11pm
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jimmie wrote:
DAMN!!!!!!!!!!! A bit off topic but here goes.... Personally I have done all kinds of drugs in my early years 15-20 years of age (1975-1980). Everything...
DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!

A bit off topic but here goes....

Personally I have done all kinds of drugs in my early years 15-20 years of age (1975-1980). Everything from pot, angel dust(PCP), cocaine, LSD...etc. on a daily basis. NEVER HEROIN

Honestly, has anyone here ever used this shit? Can you cope/function in a normal day to day routine? Drive a car, ride a motocross track etc.?
I've done some stuff where you just have to sit back and "enjoy" the ride, but not live as done normally!

Can't these users just do this shit kind of stealth? (at home after the work day is done) Chances of being busted are far less likely in these instances.

This heroine "epidemic" is just too common now with good upstanding people.

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?

Hope the best for Austin.
Some people do. Look at Anthony Bourdain....
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NV825 3/14/2016 4:12pm
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In the last Pulp interview he did sound like he had fallen off the wagon to me. The pressure of performing, plus having some cash from his little bit of success, put him right back to where he came from. Sucks to hear... hopefully he can overcome it and just try to live a normal life and just find something to help him live a life away from heroin.
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JerseyFresh 3/14/2016 4:12pm
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harrowguy wrote:
People get hooked on oxy's etc. Government makes them harder (more expensive) to get so kids had to turn to heroin to get their opiate fix...
People get hooked on oxy's etc.
Government makes them harder (more expensive) to get so kids had to turn to heroin to get their opiate fix.

So now people have a felony and can't get a job.

So what are they supposed to do now?

Check out our system over here .......

Just like your crazy system how weed it legal in one state and illegal in the next.

It's just going to get worse.
GuyB wrote:
You know why stadiums charge high prices for beer at stadiums? So fans can't afford to get all blotto during events. But blaming the government for...
You know why stadiums charge high prices for beer at stadiums? So fans can't afford to get all blotto during events.

But blaming the government for high drug prices is misguided at best.
Oh is that why? Not because you have no where else to buy beer and they got you by the balls? Cause I'm pretty sure that's the reason. Having said that, blaming the gov't for heroin addiction rising is dumb. You can blame doctors and pharmaceutical companies for that. The wanton and indiscressional prescribing of powerful, addictive opiate painkillers to people is what got us here. But that's based on greed, not trying to get people hooked on dope.
harrowguy 3/14/2016 4:17pm
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Well clearly the method you guys are using now is NOT working.
Sorry if I came off as a lefty liberal but its interesting too look at the other side. Smile
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JerseyFresh 3/14/2016 4:19pm
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Additionally GuyB for your theory to hold water, hot dogs would be $2 and not $10. Let's be adults here, money makes the world go round, not concern for the safety of the public. GM proved that.
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That's a bummer. Hopefully this can serve as a wake up call and he can stop using that shit, heroin is no joke.
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Psych student here. I'm clearly not an expert, but I do know that everyone is different when it comes to abuse and addiction. There are many other factors that play into whether or not someone becomes dependent on a drug, that goes beyond personal control. I'm not saying that people shouldn't be held accountable for their choices, but it definitely is more than just choosing to be an idiot. Hope Stroupe gets the help he needs before things get worse for him.

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