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James wrecked on the first lap, in a section that he seemed to struggle with all day. Dragons back/ whoops... He would either mess up or...
James wrecked on the first lap, in a section that he seemed to struggle with all day. Dragons back/ whoops... He would either mess up or roll through. He just didn't seem with it.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is his last ride. He does not seem close to his old self.
GeorgiePorgie wrote:
I've never seen anyone loop out in whoops. Odd crash.
I sense some sarcasm. I imagine you weren't there. All day he looked like the guys in C practice going through there. He looked scared, that's all there is to it. Sorry, I like 7. I wish him the best and I'd love to see him win. But, he doesn't look right.
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Yeah he's done. Slow in practice and looking desperate in the race. It's a real shame that a career that looked exceptional never lived up to...
Yeah he's done. Slow in practice and looking desperate in the race. It's a real shame that a career that looked exceptional never lived up to it but he had some moments of brilliance we all enjoyed. Time to call it a day
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Never lived up to it? I disagree with that statement.. Only the second rider to ever go 24-0 in the Nationals, two championships under his belt...
Never lived up to it? I disagree with that statement.. Only the second rider to ever go 24-0 in the Nationals, two championships under his belt.. a ton of wins... if his name was Alessi, Reynard,.... Brandshaw, I think people would say what a great career he had. There are many more rider that were expected to do great things that never panned out near what James has done, other then those mentioned above.
3 major big bike titles. 1 outdoor and two supercross. Not sure on the lites mx titles? 2? Second only to McGrath in SX wins and the closest person to him is dungey with barely half his total (28 or 29 I think). Yes I know Reed is still circulating around out there with 43-44 wins but he isn't gonna pass Stewart IMHO.

He is 2nd all time only to RC in total wins. Yeah, he doesn't have the titles that RC, MC, or RV have but I would call that career "working out pretty good"

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Beeby wrote:
Yeah he's done. Slow in practice and looking desperate in the race. It's a real shame that a career that looked exceptional never lived up to...
Yeah he's done. Slow in practice and looking desperate in the race. It's a real shame that a career that looked exceptional never lived up to it but he had some moments of brilliance we all enjoyed. Time to call it a day
JoJmoto wrote:
Never lived up to it? I disagree with that statement.. Only the second rider to ever go 24-0 in the Nationals, two championships under his belt...
Never lived up to it? I disagree with that statement.. Only the second rider to ever go 24-0 in the Nationals, two championships under his belt.. a ton of wins... if his name was Alessi, Reynard,.... Brandshaw, I think people would say what a great career he had. There are many more rider that were expected to do great things that never panned out near what James has done, other then those mentioned above.
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3 major big bike titles. 1 outdoor and two supercross. Not sure on the lites mx titles? 2? Second only to McGrath in SX wins and...
3 major big bike titles. 1 outdoor and two supercross. Not sure on the lites mx titles? 2? Second only to McGrath in SX wins and the closest person to him is dungey with barely half his total (28 or 29 I think). Yes I know Reed is still circulating around out there with 43-44 wins but he isn't gonna pass Stewart IMHO.

He is 2nd all time only to RC in total wins. Yeah, he doesn't have the titles that RC, MC, or RV have but I would call that career "working out pretty good"

Add, rd5 titles to that list.
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To think that if Reed would have just hit him a little harder in Vegas in 09 he would only have one 450 supercross title.

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In the last 694 days James Stewart has completed 19 main event laps.

The last time he finished 20, he finished 2nd to RV.
Holy shit that puts it into perspective. 19 laps in over 2 years. Wonder what that works out to be in dollars per lap? Figure he has to be pulling $750,000 a year minimum that is $80,000 per lap. lmao. Those poor sponsors. Ouch!
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jmx411 wrote:
To think that if Reed would have just hit him a little harder in Vegas in 09 he would only have one 450 supercross title.
Why would you say a shitty thing like that?
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Motofinne 3/6/2016 9:42am
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The argument when people discuss JS is that he is always so amazing to watch, even if he doesn't win. Well that isn't the case anymore. He had so much time to come in to the 2016 season actually fit, like a professional would and most of the colleagues that he races.

Look at the times we have seen him on the track this year, he has looked so out of shape. Barely hanging on the bike. We haven't seen the real James Stewart. And if i would be sponsors of James and the team i would be pissed. They stuck with him when he got busted for the adderall and this debacle is what they have gotten.

All i'm trying to say is that the 2016 season of James has been catastrophic. And it sucks because we have seen him mix things up so many times and a fully fit JS7 will make the races better. The problem is that he was not even close to 100% at A1 and now it's just piling on. And it's weird that he came into A1 unfit.
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The argument when people discuss JS is that he is always so amazing to watch, even if he doesn't win. Well that isn't the case anymore...
The argument when people discuss JS is that he is always so amazing to watch, even if he doesn't win. Well that isn't the case anymore. He had so much time to come in to the 2016 season actually fit, like a professional would and most of the colleagues that he races.

Look at the times we have seen him on the track this year, he has looked so out of shape. Barely hanging on the bike. We haven't seen the real James Stewart. And if i would be sponsors of James and the team i would be pissed. They stuck with him when he got busted for the adderall and this debacle is what they have gotten.

All i'm trying to say is that the 2016 season of James has been catastrophic. And it sucks because we have seen him mix things up so many times and a fully fit JS7 will make the races better. The problem is that he was not even close to 100% at A1 and now it's just piling on. And it's weird that he came into A1 unfit.
Exactly,unfit,unprepared is a slap in the face to his fans,sponsors. Almost 2 years off, due his mistake. No excuse.
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Night not starting well for JS7 [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/03/05/126809/s1200_stew.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/03/05/126810/s1200_stew2.jpg[/img]
Night not starting well for JS7







Clarkesville Georgia ??

is that you Greg ??
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Motofinne wrote:
The argument when people discuss JS is that he is always so amazing to watch, even if he doesn't win. Well that isn't the case anymore...
The argument when people discuss JS is that he is always so amazing to watch, even if he doesn't win. Well that isn't the case anymore. He had so much time to come in to the 2016 season actually fit, like a professional would and most of the colleagues that he races.

Look at the times we have seen him on the track this year, he has looked so out of shape. Barely hanging on the bike. We haven't seen the real James Stewart. And if i would be sponsors of James and the team i would be pissed. They stuck with him when he got busted for the adderall and this debacle is what they have gotten.

All i'm trying to say is that the 2016 season of James has been catastrophic. And it sucks because we have seen him mix things up so many times and a fully fit JS7 will make the races better. The problem is that he was not even close to 100% at A1 and now it's just piling on. And it's weird that he came into A1 unfit.
mxb2 wrote:
Exactly,unfit,unprepared is a slap in the face to his fans,sponsors. Almost 2 years off, due his mistake. No excuse.


Mr. Knobby 3/6/2016 10:16am
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Sorry for James but that should pretty much end his season. You come in out of shape and not prepared. This is a bad way to...
Sorry for James but that should pretty much end his season. You come in out of shape and not prepared. This is a bad way to end his career but sad to end it this way for James.
Sounds like there must have been a dozen or so guys come into the season out of shape and not prepared ace, by your stupid fkn logic. If he hadn't of gotten t-boned in the first race of the season you have no idea how it might have gone. But shitheads like you aren't interested in 'thinking' only spewing shit.
Mr. Knobby 3/6/2016 10:21am
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Motofinne wrote:
The argument when people discuss JS is that he is always so amazing to watch, even if he doesn't win. Well that isn't the case anymore...
The argument when people discuss JS is that he is always so amazing to watch, even if he doesn't win. Well that isn't the case anymore. He had so much time to come in to the 2016 season actually fit, like a professional would and most of the colleagues that he races.

Look at the times we have seen him on the track this year, he has looked so out of shape. Barely hanging on the bike. We haven't seen the real James Stewart. And if i would be sponsors of James and the team i would be pissed. They stuck with him when he got busted for the adderall and this debacle is what they have gotten.

All i'm trying to say is that the 2016 season of James has been catastrophic. And it sucks because we have seen him mix things up so many times and a fully fit JS7 will make the races better. The problem is that he was not even close to 100% at A1 and now it's just piling on. And it's weird that he came into A1 unfit.
Stop sniffing paint fumes.
He got t-boned at the beginning of the first race of the season, while running in the top few. How fuck'n clueless are you people? You have nothing to measure his fitness by, you have nothing to go on to make these pathetic statements. You have no idea what could have been, or where he actually stood coming into the season.
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Stop sniffing paint fumes. He got t-boned at the beginning of the first race of the season, while running in the top few. How fuck'n clueless...
Stop sniffing paint fumes.
He got t-boned at the beginning of the first race of the season, while running in the top few. How fuck'n clueless are you people? You have nothing to measure his fitness by, you have nothing to go on to make these pathetic statements. You have no idea what could have been, or where he actually stood coming into the season.
Are you serious? He is very clearly overweight. Compared to his past seasons, he easily has an extra 20-25 lbs hanging off him.
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some of you are animals! I just hope the guy is OK and not seriously injured,
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My friend played on the UCSD rugby team and had a concussion a couple days away from when JS had his. To this day he has a hard comprehending things, has bad sleep problems, and can't articulate his thoughts as well as before. If my buddy is still having concussion symptoms which leads me to believe that James likely is too. I hope James takes quite a bit of time off and does what's best for himself. If he comes back great, but I hope he's 100% if he does.
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Last time we saw a loop out like that it ended in retirement. Let's hope that this is not the case this time.
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Dumb question maybe, but is the general consensus his bike is set up well or funky? He is not so rattled and out of shape that...
Dumb question maybe, but is the general consensus his bike is set up well or funky?
He is not so rattled and out of shape that he can't manage a few laps upright..
ask DV about Stewie's bike set up... or lack of it.

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Bunch of pricks around here.

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Sandberm 3/6/2016 12:59pm
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Anybody heard what the injury is this time?

-Handlebar to the groin?
-Bruised Coccyx?
-Compressed vertabrae?
-Whiplash? (Remember all those 1970's dramas where someone would get whiplash and they would wear that giant neck donut and they couldnt turn their head until Perry Mason droped the big dictionary in the courtroom?)
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Still trying to figure out what went wrong.

He got out of shape (no big deal) ... got it back under control (at least it appeared that way) ... and then somehow looped? Since when does James struggle in the whoops? That is his specialty.

They say confidence is everything in racing. I think he is in a bad place between the pressure on him to perform and the mental state needed at that level. If he is going to continue I think he needs to get back up to speed - and regain his confidence - on a smaller stage against less formidable competition. Hopefully with a smaller spotlight on him. Maybe Canadian MX season?

Nothing wrong with that. Seen it in other sports where a top guy drops down to an easier league, gets back the mental edge and then goes back to the top of the premier league.

Gotta talk the ego into it though.



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JS, 2-stroke, Canadian Nats. Stamp the comeback.
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Oops, forgot this:Whistling
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Oops, forgot this:Whistling
Yea, on tp199s illegal rm250 lol.
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I'm calling a compression of the lower vertebra (or compression fracture as they call it) or ruptured/bulging disc. he will have to sit out for some time so this could be it. For this year anyway.
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The Stewart bashers need to chill. A true fan of the sport would acknowledge his accomplishments and feel the pain of his recent bad luck. I think he came into the season in good shape and a little bulked up (probably added muscle to help with the injuries) so those of you that think he is out of shape just don't get it. This is one of the best riders of all time....show some respect. I race locally and shit just happens. I, like all of my racing buddies, have been hurt several times. It's part of the sport and gets harder to come back after every injury. I race locally and am not one of the best in the world. Imagine how dangerous motocross is while racing with 7 guys. Now add the best riders in the world, double black diamond tracks, and full gates.....the probability of getting hurt is extremely high. Just chill with the bashing. You don't know. I bet half of of you dicks don't even Moto. You have no perspective if you don't Moto so be respectful of these guys.

There are some good people on these sites but you have to sift through piles of shit to get to them.
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Also....take responsibility for your shitty posts. I get the whole idea of everyone has an opinion and they are going to share it on this forum. if you are going to stir the pot with disrespectful crap.....don't hide your stupidity through anonymity. Act like what you type is a reflection of who you are. Don't just type whatever you feel like typing And think that it's ok to be a total prick.

You're ruining interesting discussions.......you know who you are out there.
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Spagina767 wrote:
James wrecked on the first lap, in a section that he seemed to struggle with all day. Dragons back/ whoops... He would either mess up or...
James wrecked on the first lap, in a section that he seemed to struggle with all day. Dragons back/ whoops... He would either mess up or roll through. He just didn't seem with it.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is his last ride. He does not seem close to his old self.
GeorgiePorgie wrote:
I've never seen anyone loop out in whoops. Odd crash.
That is exactly what I did. Looped out in the whoops trying to get back on rhythm by getting on the gas too hard, landed on my ass on the face of whoop just like James. I ended up with compression fracture on the T10-11-12. Hope James isn't hurt that bad, but wouldn't be surprised one bit if he has similar injuries. I wish he'd retire.
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Stewart did not live up to expectations. He would have even told you himself that it was not about race wins but about championships ten years...
Stewart did not live up to expectations. He would have even told you himself that it was not about race wins but about championships ten years ago. He was aiming for Carmichael type records.

A lot of people are saddened to watch what is happening right now. This is not the way they envisioned Stewart finishing his career.



Celine Deon- winning every moto in an outdoor championship is not living up to expectations?Huh
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Looped out like a local C class rider. That was pretty bad. This might be the last season we see him riding.
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jstein639 wrote:
My friend played on the UCSD rugby team and had a concussion a couple days away from when JS had his. To this day he has...
My friend played on the UCSD rugby team and had a concussion a couple days away from when JS had his. To this day he has a hard comprehending things, has bad sleep problems, and can't articulate his thoughts as well as before. If my buddy is still having concussion symptoms which leads me to believe that James likely is too. I hope James takes quite a bit of time off and does what's best for himself. If he comes back great, but I hope he's 100% if he does.
This! His cognitive processing speeds are not back up to par. that loop out had nothing to do with fitness - there's no way he was gassed after .75 of a lap. It was a mental error and a very damn odd one at that. He's looked pretty bad in the whoops ever since the A1 concussion. I really feel for the guy and hope he comes back when he is 100% ready too.

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