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So everyone currently has a holeshot device and we have a 'result' past the first turn.
so, if we remove everyone's holeshot device, you think the 'result' will be different??
How does that work??
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Just purely for entertainment purposes I would like to see Dungey get a 12th place start next week. He is on point so if he gets the holeshot it's pretty much over.
Personally, I think it would lead to more wheelies out of the gate and more first turn pile ups.
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Leads to my next point: I think these recent style of tracks just lend themselves to the overly aggressive block pass. How else are you going to pass anyone!!?? prior to the change in track construction, passing was more thought out, and spectacular. Not this bullying the guy out of the way, cause I have no other way to get by him! You would only see people do that back in the day that didn't like each other, or they would get frustrated from constant passing back and forth. But manly it came down to the riders attitude. Nowadays, it's almost common place, and I'm not a fan.
Let's get back actual supercross tracks! Not scaled down outdoor tracks that fit in a stadium. Then let's fit the bikes accordingly.
Make them all drink moonshine before the heats.
Have topless monster girls and one flagging.
Mandatory backflip on last lap finish line double.
Other than that, the best idea I read was in regards to the starts. It might turn out to be the worst idea ever, but off the top of my head I say have heats or qualifying races during the day to determine who makes the night show. Two motos at night with gate pick chosen in reverse order of points standings. Basically Dungey gets last gate pick.
In a perfect MX world we wouldn't calculate series points at all and would base gate pick on money winnings similar to what they track in golf.
We could do a lot of good for the sport by learning a few lessons from golf and the pro bull riding tour.
Whoever the points leader is he earned that spot. It's up to the competition to figure out how to beat that guy. Not some bs starting gate position.
Kroc started 4th? And ended up third I believe. 4th isn't a bad start. It's on him for why he didn't move up more than one spot if he's expecting to win a title this season. Same with everyone else including dungey when he isn't getting the start.
Today's bikes have out grown indoors!
500cc was also too much!
Outdoors ? There is no better!
4 strokes are so fast , dangerous and predicable
2 strokes were slower , wild and exciting
Racing was crazier on smokers , no traction made it fun to watch!
Today's racing is high speed and high flying - all traction
Like ? Tractors really
Fast high flying tractors
Look closely at what's changed in the sport ?
New blood can't afford these bikes and don't have the knowledge to maintain them and grass roots racing scene keeps shrinking
At the top level!!!
The best? Has already been !! Back in the day !!!!
rc , js , cr was the best there ever was no matter what bike they rode !
.... Wait? cr is still here
that means that the guy from a decade ago is still a podium threat and the bar has been raised very little
' the sport has barely evolved '
Ryan Dungey pulling a lead ?? Is pathetic.
Please Dungey Fan boys ! Don't be upset !
I'm not disagreeing that at this point
Indoors & out Combined , the all around , current best rider in the world is
dungey
But let's also remember he's couldn't beat rv
Just like , reed , could never beat rc & js -
And just like ....
windham could never beat any of them -
chad reed only won his championships in the absence of rc & js
last summer, for the first time in years tomac showed 2005 rc , js style speed @ the first five rounds of 2015 outdoors.
, I expected tomac to be riding thus far like he did in the Oakland heat race , until now He has not .
Last summer After et broke his shoulders rd goes on & wins everything , again in the absence of rv & js.
like cr! rd's titles were won , not beating the best!
The evolution of true bad ass riders has stopped! it seems?
Anderson shows flashes , so does tomac , Roczen and Seely as well, but not at the 2005 cr level and definitely nobody in today's field is at 2005 rc or js level
rv was just shy of that level , kroc showed a few years back maybe he had it? now that's gone
Dungey does not ride at the level of the top guys from a decade ago , never could
But don't get me wrong dunge blows every other rider out of the water in the history of the sport , but just not out of the last decade!
The last decade the sport hasn't evolved
the CARMICHAEL family out did everyone so hard that it's only going in reverse ever since !
And from that era...
.... Chad Reed & James Stewart are all that's left of the best era mx / sx ever saw
mc ? was a talented loser who could out drink you ! out smoke you ! And out ride you ! All in one day!
period
mc? an mc nowadays ? mc is like your buddy that doesn't race but waxes you after he's been smokin & drinkin all afternoon , after the emig bust and wholesome carmichael family values , ethics , hard work & training took over , that made mx/sx the respectable sport it is today! The record books should start as of then , sorry to ( the original rd) roger decoster to hannah? yeah it was a different time , different bikes , but from decoster , hannah , right up until emig and mc -
.... motocrossers were a bunch of drunken hippies and that's why (no wonder?) so many people to this day, don't consider mx a REAL sport .
{Disclaimer ; not saying all the other champions before , between decoster , hannah and up to mc INCLUDED , were beer drinking pot heads , quit the contrary , I'm saying all the champions before rc were beating a bunch of drunken stoned hippies (at best) on shitty two strokes &
Watching wasted teenagers on mx bikes was way more entertaining than today's show. I'll give you that !! But the history of the sport does not need to be compared with the last decade! Different bikes ! Different times ! mx was not a REAL sport until rc quite easily dethroned mc! And got rid of all that riffraff & four strokes took over! Doesn't mean it wasn't popular ! It was ! It just that No one called it a REAL sport , they were crazy hippies called 'crazies' }
So That somehow? the way we score points is going to make MX/SX better? Is BS
95% of dirt bikes sold never see a track according to MXA
Ryan Dungey is wearing jeans on Wheaties!
General public dirt bikers are still partiers at best! (Heart)
@ the pro ranks , 5% of the bikes go in this direction , nobody cares ! Nobody in the real world knows who Ricky Carmichael is!
People knew who MC was... face it ! He was popular ! He wasn't trying to be something he wasn't ! The king of the hippy motocrossers!
Dunge on the Wheaties Box trumps them all !
Ryan Dungey might just be the most popular mx rider ever
MC close 2nd?
RC ? no one in the real world knows who RC is nor JS7 nor CR
You'd think with Wheaties on board that The commercial side of the sport is strong again like in the 90s , but people resonated with the partying mx'r more it seemed ?
and That's what mattered in the 60s 70s 80s & 90s - getting wasted - the party ended at lake havasu
2000s that shit changed
Ryan Dungey is carrying on the new world rc mx values
God bless everyone
Mx is politically correct nowadays ! It's getting better and better ! And When you see this home schooled Rick flair whopping hooligan coming up through the ranks now, no need to worry , compare him to a Bagget pre speech coach , they knocked the 'boom hower' right out of him , new teeth and off to the races he went
especially now with this rc road to supercross , it's rc's riders mill! rc is single handily , going to make sure no jlaws , emigs or hannah's ever make it to the main show again
If your looking for change in the sport ? Look no further than rc
rc continues to change the game
Few weeks ago guys were talking on here comparing careers !!
I'd say ...
js career wise is close behind rc and cr in a distant 3rd! Where he has always been!
To see cr on the podium in 2016 means the sport and riders suck ! Sport hasn't evolved since rc left!
Suzuki owed money when selling a dirt bike after paying rc
rc,js,cr got paid!!!
rc is at least repaying his debt!
Is his way the right way ? ? ?
Because if I remember correctly ?
beer drinking pot heads were buying a million cheap dirt bikes a year in the 80s early 90s and racing was awesome
I say bring back cheap two stroke riding & beer drinking rednecks any day
racing was way more exciting when everyone was high and fuk'd on squirrelly two strokes
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