Blurry Vision Forces James Stewart Out of Oakland

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2/1/2016 9:55am
Mr. Knobby wrote:
It's more than just unfair - moto455va's statement is uninformed and stupid. So stupid in fact, I'm inclined to believe it's simply a trolling maneuver, I'm...
It's more than just unfair - moto455va's statement is uninformed and stupid. So stupid in fact, I'm inclined to believe it's simply a trolling maneuver, I'm going to bite anyway.

James came into the season in great shape and with excellent speed. If not for the incident in the first main event of the year, when he was running near the front, he would probably be sitting nicely in the points.
Bro James is not in good shape, he is easily 30lbs heavier than he should be. He is not in the physical condition of a professional motorcycle racer
2/1/2016 9:57am
Gringoe wrote:
Look I'm a James fan too. He just is not what he used to be. That is all
Of course that's true, and I think you'll find all the realistic fans, even the ones who are big JS7 fans will agree with that. What's complete BS is the way the haters - and lets not kid ourselves, there are lots of haters - ignore the number of other riders who came into the sport, rise up with all the hype or promise of a Stewart, but accomplish not even a fraction of what James has. The JS7 haters just love to hate on, all the while ignoring the numbers of riders that crash, fizzle, fade and achieve nothing.
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2/1/2016 10:23am
Motodave15 wrote:
Im glad he did the best thing for his health. For the asshats who have been posting redonkulous stuff in other threads, i hope you all...
Im glad he did the best thing for his health.

For the asshats who have been posting redonkulous stuff in other threads, i hope you all get clicked.
Fonzarelli wrote:
Maybe James had blurred vision. Maybe he did the best thing for his and everyone's safety. The cause of the uproar is the "maybe" that has...
Maybe James had blurred vision. Maybe he did the best thing for his and everyone's safety. The cause of the uproar is the "maybe" that has to be in there because of James' history.

If Dungey had pulled off, not a single person would wonder if he was really hurting. Same goes for almost every pro rider ever. Problem for James is that he has pulled off so many times after a bad start, quit so many races while having a bad day and skipped so many races with dubious excuses. More than anyone ever, by far. He always got a reason, some lingering injury or practice crash. The excuses get thin after a while and they are as thin as cheap toilet paper for James now.

So maybe he's truly hurting this time or maybe he would just rather quit than get passed. Doubt anyone posting here really knows.
This has to be a joke right?
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No race is worth your health James. Believe it or not life goes on after racing. Take your time brother and wait til your ready. Then wait some more.

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2/1/2016 10:30am
moto455va wrote:
Bro James is not in good shape, he is easily 30lbs heavier than he should be. He is not in the physical condition of a professional...
Bro James is not in good shape, he is easily 30lbs heavier than he should be. He is not in the physical condition of a professional motorcycle racer
So you're saying he was gassed after 6 laps and done by 8?...Lord...
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2/1/2016 10:33am
Gringoe wrote:
Look I'm a James fan too. He just is not what he used to be. That is all
Mr. Knobby wrote:
Of course that's true, and I think you'll find all the realistic fans, even the ones who are big JS7 fans will agree with that. What's...
Of course that's true, and I think you'll find all the realistic fans, even the ones who are big JS7 fans will agree with that. What's complete BS is the way the haters - and lets not kid ourselves, there are lots of haters - ignore the number of other riders who came into the sport, rise up with all the hype or promise of a Stewart, but accomplish not even a fraction of what James has. The JS7 haters just love to hate on, all the while ignoring the numbers of riders that crash, fizzle, fade and achieve nothing.
I agree 100% with this. He is an icon undoubtably and you could say he was the fastest guy at some given point every single year he's ever raced. He has more achievements than damn near every American rider in history in the results and the style department.
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2/1/2016 10:38am Edited Date/Time 2/1/2016 10:38am
moto455va wrote:
Bro James is not in good shape, he is easily 30lbs heavier than he should be. He is not in the physical condition of a professional...
Bro James is not in good shape, he is easily 30lbs heavier than he should be. He is not in the physical condition of a professional motorcycle racer
Big Lenny wrote:
So you're saying he was gassed after 6 laps and done by 8?...Lord...
I mean yeah if you're holding your breath that's super easy to do on a sx track, your heart rate is nearly wide open the whole time and after a certain amount of time depending on your fitness your muscles start cramping and you fall behind on breathing and max out..

That's not what happened I don't think though. JT talks about it a lot, concussion symptoms are tricky in that they may not act up until you're a ways into the race sustaining a very high heart rate. For those unfamiliar look up Pastrana Atlanta 2002 main event. Travis would never quit and he HAD too. Anyone trying to say he pulled off because he was tired is a fucking idiot.
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2/1/2016 10:45am
There's a fable about the boy who cried wolf. I don't doubt that Stewart had something going on when he pulled off. But too many years of winning heats and then having an excuse in the main, people just don't believe anything the Stewart camp says anymore. I wish he would call it a day. I believe he is not mentally 100% already, every hit makes the odds of him being able to enjoy the fruits of his work that much lower. Before everyone jumps all over me look at his fall at the MEC then the video of him telling JS7 Sr. that the track was coming at him too fast. That isn't something you should lose at 30.
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2/1/2016 10:49am Edited Date/Time 2/1/2016 10:52am
How quickly people forget that when James was winning the first motos of 2014 with SUSZUKI he was riding for free. The guy loves racing, and will do anything to keep racing. But he can't ride at the level he rides at with injuries.

Remember that concussions get more severe and happen easier the more you've had. How many times has James knocked himself silly on the race track? It messes you up man. I got KOed at a race in 2008, it was my third conky. I got up and rode teh last 2 corners of the race then spent 20 minutes driving aimlessly around trying to find my pit. Then spent the rest of the day asking the same question over and over. It was weeks before I felt right again.

I guarantee if James had been at 100%, he would've finished the race. but clearly he was having issues,
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2/1/2016 10:49am
I'd rather see him pull off than wad himself up more.
Guy is gnarly but it seems he isnt quite healthy yet.
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2/1/2016 10:54am Edited Date/Time 2/1/2016 10:54am
And he should NOT be out there racing if he's not 100%.
2/1/2016 10:59am
Mr. Knobby wrote:
It's more than just unfair - moto455va's statement is uninformed and stupid. So stupid in fact, I'm inclined to believe it's simply a trolling maneuver, I'm...
It's more than just unfair - moto455va's statement is uninformed and stupid. So stupid in fact, I'm inclined to believe it's simply a trolling maneuver, I'm going to bite anyway.

James came into the season in great shape and with excellent speed. If not for the incident in the first main event of the year, when he was running near the front, he would probably be sitting nicely in the points.
moto455va wrote:
Bro James is not in good shape, he is easily 30lbs heavier than he should be. He is not in the physical condition of a professional...
Bro James is not in good shape, he is easily 30lbs heavier than he should be. He is not in the physical condition of a professional motorcycle racer
I'm pretty sure you are joking around / trolling. Either that you're one of the stupidest people on earth on top of being inexperienced and new to the sport. Tongue Guess you haven't noticed Reed's bulking up a little as well?Whistling
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2/1/2016 11:00am
So many of you appear to need some testing of your own; because, it's obvious that continuous Concussions and the damage they cause to the brain is prevelent in our sport and on our boards.
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But the blurry vision/dizziness is not a good sign. There are so many hockey players and other athletes that have to end their careers early because of multiple concussions. That could be the case for JS7 too if this continues.
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2/1/2016 11:08am
Motofinne wrote:
But the blurry vision/dizziness is not a good sign. There are so many hockey players and other athletes that have to end their careers early because...
But the blurry vision/dizziness is not a good sign. There are so many hockey players and other athletes that have to end their careers early because of multiple concussions. That could be the case for JS7 too if this continues.
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2/1/2016 11:16am
Mr. Knobby wrote:
It's more than just unfair - moto455va's statement is uninformed and stupid. So stupid in fact, I'm inclined to believe it's simply a trolling maneuver, I'm...
It's more than just unfair - moto455va's statement is uninformed and stupid. So stupid in fact, I'm inclined to believe it's simply a trolling maneuver, I'm going to bite anyway.

James came into the season in great shape and with excellent speed. If not for the incident in the first main event of the year, when he was running near the front, he would probably be sitting nicely in the points.
moto455va wrote:
Bro James is not in good shape, he is easily 30lbs heavier than he should be. He is not in the physical condition of a professional...
Bro James is not in good shape, he is easily 30lbs heavier than he should be. He is not in the physical condition of a professional motorcycle racer
"Easily 30 lbs heavier than he should be."

Can you please tell us what James is weighing in at and how much he is supposed to weigh?
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2/1/2016 11:22am
Mr. Knobby wrote:
It's more than just unfair - moto455va's statement is uninformed and stupid. So stupid in fact, I'm inclined to believe it's simply a trolling maneuver, I'm...
It's more than just unfair - moto455va's statement is uninformed and stupid. So stupid in fact, I'm inclined to believe it's simply a trolling maneuver, I'm going to bite anyway.

James came into the season in great shape and with excellent speed. If not for the incident in the first main event of the year, when he was running near the front, he would probably be sitting nicely in the points.
moto455va wrote:
Bro James is not in good shape, he is easily 30lbs heavier than he should be. He is not in the physical condition of a professional...
Bro James is not in good shape, he is easily 30lbs heavier than he should be. He is not in the physical condition of a professional motorcycle racer
Mr. Knobby wrote:
I'm pretty sure you are joking around / trolling. Either that you're one of the stupidest people on earth on top of being inexperienced and new...
I'm pretty sure you are joking around / trolling. Either that you're one of the stupidest people on earth on top of being inexperienced and new to the sport. Tongue Guess you haven't noticed Reed's bulking up a little as well?Whistling
the sad truth....he's not trolling at all, he's been saying it since A1
2/1/2016 11:22am
Mr. Knobby wrote:
It's more than just unfair - moto455va's statement is uninformed and stupid. So stupid in fact, I'm inclined to believe it's simply a trolling maneuver, I'm...
It's more than just unfair - moto455va's statement is uninformed and stupid. So stupid in fact, I'm inclined to believe it's simply a trolling maneuver, I'm going to bite anyway.

James came into the season in great shape and with excellent speed. If not for the incident in the first main event of the year, when he was running near the front, he would probably be sitting nicely in the points.
moto455va wrote:
Bro James is not in good shape, he is easily 30lbs heavier than he should be. He is not in the physical condition of a professional...
Bro James is not in good shape, he is easily 30lbs heavier than he should be. He is not in the physical condition of a professional motorcycle racer
30 pounds....I love this!!

Some of you people are just dumb!!! You talk like you know him and have a relationship with this guy.

I will say he is far from overweight! Is he in the greatest shape? No. Its not from the lack of hard work. Certain instances did not help any toward the end of 2015, and now a new issue at the beginning of the 16' season opener.

He can run the full 20 laps without any issues in fitness. The mental side of things are another issue.

I think if Dungey and James didn't collide at the opener James would be surprising a lot of people right now.

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2/1/2016 11:28am
This really sucks. Racing is more entertaining with him out there.

Time to hang up those boots.
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2/1/2016 11:29am
So... where's that graduated return to riding protocol for SX?
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Get well Bubba!
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2/1/2016 11:34am
Tbteam wrote:
I'm a Stewart fan. Seems to not be a really popular thing right now, but I've been watching him race since he was six years old...
I'm a Stewart fan. Seems to not be a really popular thing right now, but I've been watching him race since he was six years old.

From the moment I saw him on the bike Saturday night, he looked the most uncomfortable that I can ever remember. His rhythm was way off, and he just looked out of place.

I hope that either he fully recovers to the point that he is himself again, or hangs it up before he gets hurt. Lot's of time left in his life. I hope he lives it out in a very healthy state.
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In his heat race he looked way off to me too. I thought it was a bike setup problem (especially up front). Maybe there was more...
In his heat race he looked way off to me too. I thought it was a bike setup problem (especially up front). Maybe there was more going on than we realized though.

To the folks saying put a fork in him, is that what you really want? Like him or despise him, he adds entertainment to our favorite show and is fun to watch. The day he says to heck with this, will be a shitty day for all of us.
Stewart was knocked unconscious in his accident with Dungey at Anaheim, he has suffered from several blows to the head throughout his career, and the medical term for this is" Chronic Traumatic Brain Injuries". There has been a lot of research in response to the numbers of players that suffer from several impacts to their head throughout their careers, and the long term effects that it has on the brain. Some of the symptoms James may be encountering are listed here,
•Unconsciousness
•Inability to remember the cause of the injury or events that occurred Immediately before or up to 24 hours after
•Confusion and disorientation
•Difficulty remembering new information
•Headache
•Dizziness
•Blurry vision
•Nausea and vomiting
•Ringing in the ears
•Trouble speaking coherently
•Changes in emotions or sleep patterns
I myself have experienced all of these symptoms throughout my football, boxing, and motocross endeavors, and there is substantial proof from the dissection of the brain itself, after the player is deceased and has donated his brain to this type of research. If you don't believe me, just research for yourself the short and long term effects of these types of injuries, and you will see that it is not just a matter of James lacking the motivation, or his inability to run up front as the race continues, there is solid medical insight as to why James could be experiencing these things, and one thing I know for certain is if you put James7 out on a track, keep his heart rate low enough for a short enough period of time, he may feel ready to go, but 8-10 laps into maximum heart rate, compounded by every small impact his brain is incurring throughout the race, and it is no surprise he pulls off, likely feeling many of the symptoms listed above. The NFL went round and around in circles with a group of retired players in a lawsuit that pertained to this very knowledge of brain injuries, and the NFL reluctantly settled, paid somewhere in the ballpark of 50 million dollars if I remember correctly, and from there they attempted to bury any notion that the NFL was well aware of this entire research project, which they themselves researched on more than one occasion. I urge you to educate yourselves the best you can before you begin to speculate all of the other possibilities that could be affecting JS7, I speak from experience when I tell you that he is facing a very difficult situation, people don't fully grasp the potential consequences of an injury like the one he incurred at Anaheim, and it is time people realize that this is a serious medical issue, an internal injury to the brain, compounded every time a rider takes even a minor bump in the head, not to mention the pressure of being JS7. My opinion: James is suffering from this injury, and the old pick yourself up and rub some dirt on it philosophy will no longer apply to anyone with the type of brain injuries he has likely sustained throughout his career. My prayers are with you James, I believe he has the heart of a champion, and the last thing he wants to do at this point is hang up any boots.

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2/1/2016 11:34am Edited Date/Time 2/1/2016 11:37am
Great Forum here.

But never saw so many "Mr. know it all" in one place.
Don't want to write "dumb" but it is close!

Don't know what went wrong with a lot of people around here.
Might have a messed up "youth" or something like that.


@ chase4372 that's whats all about. Well written!


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2/1/2016 11:45am
JS7 has a crash reel rivaled by no one. The hits to the head he's had since turning pro, plus any he had as an amateur, have to start taking a toll on his brain.
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2/1/2016 11:47am
I told him not to let Matthes prep his goggles...
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2/1/2016 11:47am
Motofinne wrote:
And he should NOT be out there racing if he's not 100%.
Man, if everyone took that approach and waited until they are 100% to race, there would only be 2 guys on the gate......only kidding of course

A lot of guys go out and feel ok during the week only to race and see they are not ready....I would imagine with the concussion issue, its even worse....feeling good...then its 47 degrees out...your body gets cold and your head starts freezing up.....who know...as much as I want to see him race, id rather he play it safe.
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2/1/2016 12:01pm
Any chance there's a basic performance clause in his contract for mains made, etc? I sure hope that's not factoring in his decision to line up.

Take the next few months off James. Coach up your brother, sign some autographs, and get ready for the outdoors (or retire).

The fans like seeing you healthy and happy. Get well Bubba!
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Motofinne wrote:
And he should NOT be out there racing if he's not 100%.
RedRum666 wrote:
Man, if everyone took that approach and waited until they are 100% to race, there would only be 2 guys on the gate......only kidding of course...
Man, if everyone took that approach and waited until they are 100% to race, there would only be 2 guys on the gate......only kidding of course

A lot of guys go out and feel ok during the week only to race and see they are not ready....I would imagine with the concussion issue, its even worse....feeling good...then its 47 degrees out...your body gets cold and your head starts freezing up.....who know...as much as I want to see him race, id rather he play it safe.
The difference is huge when it comes to a "normal" injury and a head injury. Head injuries are freaking scary, they can actually be life threatening.

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2/1/2016 12:54pm
Not adding fuel to the fire (well trying not to), but the concussion thing in sport in interesting. Read this article that I found today while looking at my old country's news....

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/76470267/mario-fenech-reflects-on-l…

Highlights the real danger of continuing to play sport while concussed. ok ok Rugby League is a very heavy contact sport but still a good read.
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2/1/2016 12:59pm
moto455va wrote:
Bro James is not in good shape, he is easily 30lbs heavier than he should be. He is not in the physical condition of a professional...
Bro James is not in good shape, he is easily 30lbs heavier than he should be. He is not in the physical condition of a professional motorcycle racer
You remember a few years ago when he came into the season super-skinny? He also spent much of that year being sick. As I understand it, he visited with a nutritionist who suggested that being that lean wasn't helping.

While he may not be at his ideal race weight (I'd guess the time he spent on the sidelines after Lille didn't help), he apparently was pounding out 20-lappers last week at the test track, and going very fast. Fitness doesn't seem to be the issue.

Personally, with blurred vision being an issue, I'm happy that he pulled off the track. I also see it as a good sign. "Old James" might have tried to ride through that. I'd rather see him pull off than take himself out...or maybe take another rider with him.

I hear he'll be getting a CAT scan this week, and that he'll be back when he's ready to roll.

As for some of you "experts" in here... (shaking head)

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