2016 450 Shootout Is Up!

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Edited Date/Time 11/6/2015 1:34pm
Our 2016 450 Shootout is now live on the homepage!



We have a massive comprehensive article with all five rider's individual thoughts and scores, along with dyno charts and other data goodies here: http://www.vitalmx.com/features/Vital-MX-2016-450-Shootout-Building,3818



Or for those that want it short and sweet, we have a seven-minute video where I go through the pros and cons of each bike, while announcing the results... all with some awesome riding action: http://www.vitalmx.com/videos/features/2016-Vital-MX-450-Shootout-Video…
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GuyB 10/28/2015 10:54am
10/28/2015 10:54am Edited Date/Time 10/28/2015 10:54am
Once a year is all we ask.

Actually, once a day is probably better ratio for visiting the homepage. You never know what you might find.

www.vitalmx.com
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DL 10/28/2015 11:09am
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Nice job guys!
theycallmeebryan 10/28/2015 11:55am
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Thanks for actually going through the pro's and con's of each bike. Great stuff guys!
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Johnny Depp 10/28/2015 12:02pm
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You guy's are awesome. Magazines? Who need all that paper?

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CarlinoJoeVideo 10/28/2015 12:07pm
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I'm still blown away how far apart the KTM and Husky finished! Blink Woohoo Silly
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GuyB wrote:
Once a year is all we ask. Actually, once a day is probably better ratio for visiting the homepage. You never know what you might find...
Once a year is all we ask.

Actually, once a day is probably better ratio for visiting the homepage. You never know what you might find.

www.vitalmx.com
I actually try to visit the homepage (what's that?) at least a couple times a week. I often find some goodies I didn't know was there, like the recent interview with WP. Would recommend!
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DoctorJD 10/28/2015 12:33pm
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Great job, very comprehensive look at each bike.
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RMT 10/28/2015 12:42pm
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Nice job.
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Awesome job guys!
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Nice shootout. Thanks.
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mxb2 10/28/2015 1:09pm
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Awesome, thank you guys. Good info.
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gt80rider 10/28/2015 1:10pm
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Sweet shootout, well written and killer pics of course. Any plans for using B or C riders in the future?
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Camp332 10/28/2015 1:13pm
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Yo ML512 Bro, good job on the vocals. Do you workout?
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mxwrench66 10/28/2015 5:59pm
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Great read! Judging by the laptimes some riders are fluffing their on their listed skill level. No shame in listing novice.
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CarlinoJoeVideo 10/28/2015 6:10pm
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mxwrench66 wrote:
Great read! Judging by the laptimes some riders are fluffing their on their listed skill level. No shame in listing novice.
Maybe your throwing out some sarcasm? :-)

But being out there shooting those guys I'll let you know none of them are novice! Sometimes everyone isn't 100% healthy ya know. Those dudes are animals, 8 30min motos is no joke!
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c0ncEpT 10/28/2015 6:15pm
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Awesome! When can we expect the 250F shootout??
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coastlinecascott 10/28/2015 6:19pm
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Great shootout. Simple and to the point. No fluff
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mxwrench66 10/28/2015 6:19pm
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mxwrench66 wrote:
Great read! Judging by the laptimes some riders are fluffing their on their listed skill level. No shame in listing novice.
CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
Maybe your throwing out some sarcasm? :-) But being out there shooting those guys I'll let you know none of them are novice! Sometimes everyone isn't...
Maybe your throwing out some sarcasm? :-)

But being out there shooting those guys I'll let you know none of them are novice! Sometimes everyone isn't 100% healthy ya know. Those dudes are animals, 8 30min motos is no joke!
No Sarcasm. I did think it was one of the most in depth best shootouts ive read. Judging by the laptimes thats what it looked like. I could be wrong

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bob567 10/28/2015 6:41pm
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The KTM is the worst bike by far. Please for the love of all things motocross everyone needs to stop buying them. Please and thank you. God damn things have become harder to find than 18yr old virgins in CA.
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ML512 10/28/2015 6:44pm
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mxwrench66 wrote:
Great read! Judging by the laptimes some riders are fluffing their on their listed skill level. No shame in listing novice.
CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
Maybe your throwing out some sarcasm? :-) But being out there shooting those guys I'll let you know none of them are novice! Sometimes everyone isn't...
Maybe your throwing out some sarcasm? :-)

But being out there shooting those guys I'll let you know none of them are novice! Sometimes everyone isn't 100% healthy ya know. Those dudes are animals, 8 30min motos is no joke!
mxwrench66 wrote:
No Sarcasm. I did think it was one of the most in depth best shootouts ive read. Judging by the laptimes thats what it looked like...
No Sarcasm. I did think it was one of the most in depth best shootouts ive read. Judging by the laptimes thats what it looked like. I could be wrong
I win the slow award, but I'll play my card of riding injured with feet that were literally bleeding all day...
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mxwrench66 10/28/2015 7:25pm
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You win the awesome article award though. Good feature bud
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ML512 wrote:
Our 2016 450 Shootout is now live on the homepage! [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/10/28/109188/s1200_shootout16group.jpg[/img] We have a massive comprehensive article with all five rider's individual thoughts and scores, along...
Our 2016 450 Shootout is now live on the homepage!



We have a massive comprehensive article with all five rider's individual thoughts and scores, along with dyno charts and other data goodies here: http://www.vitalmx.com/features/Vital-MX-2016-450-Shootout-Building,3818



Or for those that want it short and sweet, we have a seven-minute video where I go through the pros and cons of each bike, while announcing the results... all with some awesome riding action: http://www.vitalmx.com/videos/features/2016-Vital-MX-450-Shootout-Video…
Mike,

You made a comment regarding the engine braking on the KX. Which bike had the least? I dislike engine braking. In my experience, the CRF's have the least of all the manufacturers. How was the KTM's engine braking? Could you possibly rate them?

Thanks in advance.
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Dan-The-Man 10/29/2015 11:37am
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Just curious, when will the 250 shootout take place?
deltadestroyer11 10/29/2015 2:54pm
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Mike, You made a comment regarding the engine braking on the KX. Which bike had the least? I dislike engine braking. In my experience, the CRF's...
Mike,

You made a comment regarding the engine braking on the KX. Which bike had the least? I dislike engine braking. In my experience, the CRF's have the least of all the manufacturers. How was the KTM's engine braking? Could you possibly rate them?

Thanks in advance.
My 14 and my brothers 15 CRF450 has a small amount of engine braking.. Way less than any other 450's I've ridden.. To me the Honda's engine braking is near perfect.. not too much, but enough to help slow the bike a little for turns without the jerky on/off engine brakeing feel that teeter totters the bike back and forth. Coming off of 2strokes I've really come to appreciate Hondas engine braking. Like I said... too me... just the rite amount.
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Myke 10/29/2015 3:18pm
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Great job! Thanks!
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8 x 30 min motos? More than one of those results had the same Fastest Lap as their Lap 99. I'd be surprised if they all of a sudden just did their best time in every section of the track all on the one same lap if they did 13-15 laps in one session.
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BTW, I liked the addition of the LITPro stuff Smile
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ML512 10/29/2015 5:58pm
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wsc96 wrote:
8 x 30 min motos? More than one of those results had the same Fastest Lap as their Lap 99. I'd be surprised if they all...
8 x 30 min motos? More than one of those results had the same Fastest Lap as their Lap 99. I'd be surprised if they all of a sudden just did their best time in every section of the track all on the one same lap if they did 13-15 laps in one session.
We pull on and off for changes, but a few guys put all their best sections in one lap.
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deltadestroyer11 wrote:
My 14 and my brothers 15 CRF450 has a small amount of engine braking.. Way less than any other 450's I've ridden.. To me the Honda's...
My 14 and my brothers 15 CRF450 has a small amount of engine braking.. Way less than any other 450's I've ridden.. To me the Honda's engine braking is near perfect.. not too much, but enough to help slow the bike a little for turns without the jerky on/off engine brakeing feel that teeter totters the bike back and forth. Coming off of 2strokes I've really come to appreciate Hondas engine braking. Like I said... too me... just the rite amount.
I don't know where they got the more engine braking part from? My 16 kx has less than my '12 crf had. I read that and thought wtf? because I noticed that aspect of the bike right away. Maybe they don't use the clutch much, who knows.
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Trav138 10/29/2015 6:49pm
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well done guys, great stuff thanks

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