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vschaik141 8/28/2015 4:36am
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I'm on my way to assen right now! Will be there in an hour gonna be an epic weekend great weather. Where can I find the schedule for this weekend?
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vschaik141 wrote:
I'm on my way to assen right now! Will be there in an hour gonna be an epic weekend great weather. Where can I find the...
I'm on my way to assen right now! Will be there in an hour gonna be an epic weekend great weather. Where can I find the schedule for this weekend?
Go to "mxgp.com" then click on GP of Netherlands TV schedule (top of home page) it gives an itinery at the bottom of the page
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Jefro98 8/28/2015 5:42am
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Is anyone even the slighted bit excited about this GP...?

RG1 wrote:
I'm interested to see how it turns out. But I wouldn't use the word excited. No matter how good it is, it's not Lierop
2strokerider wrote:
I would imagine both simpson, and anstie will both be looking forward to another sand track! hoping for a good result from them both again this...
I would imagine both simpson, and anstie will both be looking forward to another sand track! hoping for a good result from them both again this weekend.

I'll record it on my sky + and watch it when I get back from racing, but wouldn't say I was excited about it. If it was at lierop then I would have booked a ferry to get over there and watch it- that place needs to be back on the mxgp calendar NOW!

people bang on about lommel being this fantastic sand track- its rubbish compared to lierop!!! lierop is the best gp to go to in Holland / Belgium in my opinion. Real nice setting in the middle of the trees, and you can get up close to the track, to watch those guys race round there is something else! needs to be seen in person to appreciate just how tough it gets on gp weekend
Maybe it's because I'm Dutch but I really don't get the excitment about Lierop.
Don't get me wrong, it's a cool track and one of the toughest but there is no elevations at all and spectator viewing kinda sucks.
It's because of the straights with 90 degree corners through the woods, riders pass you and you'll be waiting for 2 minutes before you see 'm again.
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DeStouwer 8/28/2015 5:56am
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RG1 wrote:
I'm interested to see how it turns out. But I wouldn't use the word excited. No matter how good it is, it's not Lierop
2strokerider wrote:
I would imagine both simpson, and anstie will both be looking forward to another sand track! hoping for a good result from them both again this...
I would imagine both simpson, and anstie will both be looking forward to another sand track! hoping for a good result from them both again this weekend.

I'll record it on my sky + and watch it when I get back from racing, but wouldn't say I was excited about it. If it was at lierop then I would have booked a ferry to get over there and watch it- that place needs to be back on the mxgp calendar NOW!

people bang on about lommel being this fantastic sand track- its rubbish compared to lierop!!! lierop is the best gp to go to in Holland / Belgium in my opinion. Real nice setting in the middle of the trees, and you can get up close to the track, to watch those guys race round there is something else! needs to be seen in person to appreciate just how tough it gets on gp weekend
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Maybe it's because I'm Dutch but I really don't get the excitment about Lierop. Don't get me wrong, it's a cool track and one of the...
Maybe it's because I'm Dutch but I really don't get the excitment about Lierop.
Don't get me wrong, it's a cool track and one of the toughest but there is no elevations at all and spectator viewing kinda sucks.
It's because of the straights with 90 degree corners through the woods, riders pass you and you'll be waiting for 2 minutes before you see 'm again.
I've got he same feeling. Also about Lommel, I never understand what the fuzz is all about, apart from those two being one of the deepest sandtracks in the world. I'm having way more fun at tracks in France, Britain or Italy.

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DeStouwer 8/28/2015 6:41am
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I'm on my way to assen right now! Will be there in an hour gonna be an epic weekend great weather. Where can I find the...
I'm on my way to assen right now! Will be there in an hour gonna be an epic weekend great weather. Where can I find the schedule for this weekend?
Saturday August 29th

08:10 : EMX150 Free/Timed practice
08:45: EMX125 Free/Timed practice
09:20 : EMX250 Free/Timed practice
09:55 :VMX Free/Timed practice
10:25 : MX2 Free Practice
10:55 : MXGP Free Practice
12:40 : EMX150 Race 1
13:20 : EMX125 Race 1
14:00 :MX2 Time Practice
14:35 : MXGP Time Practice
15:15 : VMX Race 1
16:10 : MX2 Qualifying Race
17:00 : MXGP Qualifying Race
17:40 : EMX250 Race 1
18:30 : VMX Race 2

Sunday August 30th

08:00: EMX150 Warm-up
08:15 : EMX125 Warm-up
08:30 : EMX250 Warm-up
09:30 : EMX150 Race 2
10:20 : EMX125 Race 2
11:10 : MX2 Warm up
11:30 : MXGP Warm up
12:00 : EMX250 Race 2
13:15 : MX2 Race 1
14:15 : MXGP Race 1
16:10 : MX2 Race 2
17:10 : MXGP Race 2
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Jefro98 8/28/2015 6:46am
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DeStouwer wrote:
I've got he same feeling. Also about Lommel, I never understand what the fuzz is all about, apart from those two being one of the deepest...
I've got he same feeling. Also about Lommel, I never understand what the fuzz is all about, apart from those two being one of the deepest sandtracks in the world. I'm having way more fun at tracks in France, Britain or Italy.
Atleast at Lommel you can follow the racing better with the current track lay out.
And it has some nice 180 turns which is good for picture taking.
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Maybe it's because I'm Dutch but I really don't get the excitment about Lierop. Don't get me wrong, it's a cool track and one of the...
Maybe it's because I'm Dutch but I really don't get the excitment about Lierop.
Don't get me wrong, it's a cool track and one of the toughest but there is no elevations at all and spectator viewing kinda sucks.
It's because of the straights with 90 degree corners through the woods, riders pass you and you'll be waiting for 2 minutes before you see 'm again.
It's just different. I guess because you're from the Netherlands there's a lots of tracks like that and to you it's maybe not as special. But I just think it's cool watching everyone through the same bit of track, rather than watching the top 3 all the way around the track.
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Jefro98 8/28/2015 7:16am
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It's just different. I guess because you're from the Netherlands there's a lots of tracks like that and to you it's maybe not as special. But...
It's just different. I guess because you're from the Netherlands there's a lots of tracks like that and to you it's maybe not as special. But I just think it's cool watching everyone through the same bit of track, rather than watching the top 3 all the way around the track.
Yea, I guess I watched and raced on too many of those tracks here.
I like Matterley because of the view and can't understand Brits complaining about it. Laughing
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It's just different. I guess because you're from the Netherlands there's a lots of tracks like that and to you it's maybe not as special. But...
It's just different. I guess because you're from the Netherlands there's a lots of tracks like that and to you it's maybe not as special. But I just think it's cool watching everyone through the same bit of track, rather than watching the top 3 all the way around the track.
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Yea, I guess I watched and raced on too many of those tracks here. I like Matterley because of the view and can't understand Brits complaining...
Yea, I guess I watched and raced on too many of those tracks here.
I like Matterley because of the view and can't understand Brits complaining about it. Laughing
In my opinion the natural landscape should challenge the riders as much as possible and ideally offer idiosyncratic features that can't be replicated easily. That's what distinguishes one track from another.

When tracks are purposely built on flat, or gently undulating ground (like Matterley) they end up looking generic and feeling soulless because they have no character. All they consist of are the formulaic & perfectly manicured jumps which all the riders (even 85cc riders) can do in their sleep these days.

I could probably find more enthusiasm for Matterley again if they would at least change the layout. The fact that it's a basically just a wide expanse of flattish ground means it's effectlively a blank canvass.
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Bigboy69 8/28/2015 7:37am
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Giuseppe Luongo has announced that all riders will be allowed to make one tire change( Bridgestone medium slicks) when visible signs of tarmac is showing..estimated after the 4th lap..
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Yea, I guess I watched and raced on too many of those tracks here. I like Matterley because of the view and can't understand Brits complaining...
Yea, I guess I watched and raced on too many of those tracks here.
I like Matterley because of the view and can't understand Brits complaining about it. Laughing
I think Matterley is great, I would like to see a couple of changes but certainly no complaints. Lierop and Matterley just offer different viewing experiences. You can get much closer to the track in Lierop
bongobongo 8/28/2015 8:00am
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Giuseppe Luongo has announced that all riders will be allowed to make one tire change( Bridgestone medium slicks) when visible signs of tarmac is showing..estimated after...
Giuseppe Luongo has announced that all riders will be allowed to make one tire change( Bridgestone medium slicks) when visible signs of tarmac is showing..estimated after the 4th lap..
4th lap in the the free practice?

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Jefro98 wrote:
Maybe it's because I'm Dutch but I really don't get the excitment about Lierop. Don't get me wrong, it's a cool track and one of the...
Maybe it's because I'm Dutch but I really don't get the excitment about Lierop.
Don't get me wrong, it's a cool track and one of the toughest but there is no elevations at all and spectator viewing kinda sucks.
It's because of the straights with 90 degree corners through the woods, riders pass you and you'll be waiting for 2 minutes before you see 'm again.
RG1 wrote:
It's just different. I guess because you're from the Netherlands there's a lots of tracks like that and to you it's maybe not as special. But...
It's just different. I guess because you're from the Netherlands there's a lots of tracks like that and to you it's maybe not as special. But I just think it's cool watching everyone through the same bit of track, rather than watching the top 3 all the way around the track.
Lierop is a great track to attend a race. Not because you can see the entire track but because there is a great atmosphere and you can stand close to the track cheering on the riders. Lierop always delivers great racing and good timesGrinning
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Walked the track today seems dangerous at a few places.. track real short... so gonna be a lot of laps. That with 6 classes track gonna be so rough tomorrow I love it! But the padock here is really quite compared to other GP's I been to. Can't wait for Ernee the French are some crazy... mxon in general, love it
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View from the start gate is definitely cool and unique
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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/08/28/103212/s1200_image.jpg[/img] View from the start gate is definitely cool and unique


View from the start gate is definitely cool and unique
Wondering whether there may be more grading between races if the sand digs out to the boards too quick, which I guess it will.
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mfowler 8/28/2015 1:09pm
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mrbingo_ wrote:
this is just stupid.
there are plenty of great tracks around europe to find already.

put the construction money in the pockets of the riders instead.
Yeah but they're growing the sport!
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Jefro98 8/28/2015 1:38pm
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Robgvx wrote:
Wondering whether there may be more grading between races if the sand digs out to the boards too quick, which I guess it will.
Bet there will be plenty bulldozers around to keep that from happening Rob.
You doing the co-commentating on this one again?

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Robgvx 8/28/2015 2:02pm
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Bet there will be plenty bulldozers around to keep that from happening Rob.
You doing the co-commentating on this one again?
Yes Jeff. With Jack.
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philG 8/28/2015 2:56pm
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I guess the telling thing is that if this was at Lierop , i would be there already, and instead im home with nothing to do .
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RG1 8/29/2015 12:10am
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Robgvx wrote:
Wondering whether there may be more grading between races if the sand digs out to the boards too quick, which I guess it will.
I would think there would have to be. I can't see that track standing up all weekend without going down to the boards
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jamma10 8/29/2015 12:14am
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Well the ride-through/street promotion is one positive at least. Ive aways believed this was something they should try and do whenever possible.
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Alex 8/29/2015 12:53am
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The difference with Assen and Lommel in terms of the natural terrain is zero. Lommel is a flat sand track in an industrial estate in Belgium. This is a flat sand track in the middle of one of the most iconic motorcycle venues in the world. I think motorcycle fans call it 'The Cathedral' or something.
Jose Espana 8/29/2015 12:55am
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OK , I gotta ask this. But what is with all the " sand tracks " in the GP's over the past 5yrs or so? I...
OK , I gotta ask this. But what is with all the " sand tracks " in the GP's over the past 5yrs or so? I always remembered the GP's having a couple here and there , but now it seems like every other track is sand?

From the outside looking in , our tracks are getting so all the dirt is the same. Like deep , perfect loam , but they ALL are getting to be that way! We need a variety here as well. Some sand , some hard pack , ect...

It just seems that the GP's now have more " sand tracks " than actual " Dirt tracks " ?? And if it is dirt , they let that shit get hard as a rock.

Where do you GP guys see this going in the next 5yrs or so? And is it good or bad?
We need a variety here as well. Some sand , some hard pack , ect...

Bloody hell jerkfro , you do know hard pack aint real racing , don't you ?

Seriously though , you have just spent the last few days calling me all the names under the sun and anti American , just because I had the audacity to criticise Dungeys track comments , and it would seem that you actually agree with me !


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I don't like this concept of built track at GP's at all. But then again... Supercross and especially Daytona works, so I''ll give it a chance.
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ATKpilot99 8/29/2015 3:45am
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sende wrote:
I don't like this concept of built track at GP's at all. But then again... Supercross and especially Daytona works, so I''ll give it a chance.
I agree . I don't think one or at the most two races of this type in an 18 event series is necessarily a bad thing if done right.
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ATKpilot99 8/29/2015 5:12am
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After watching the go pro video in the other thread it appears they may have not done it right.
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After watching the go pro video in the other thread it appears they may have not done it right.
After watching the go pro video in the other thread it appears they may have not done it right.
I think they've done okay. The track looks like it has good flow, it's not filled with jumps, and it should get pretty rough. It's no Lierop, but it's alright
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
After watching the go pro video in the other thread it appears they may have not done it right.
After watching the go pro video in the other thread it appears they may have not done it right.
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I think they've done okay. The track looks like it has good flow, it's not filled with jumps, and it should get pretty rough. It's no...
I think they've done okay. The track looks like it has good flow, it's not filled with jumps, and it should get pretty rough. It's no Lierop, but it's alright
Yeah I guess as it gets rougher it could be ok. Have to wait and see I guess.

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