Let The Silly Season Games Begin!

Flatliner wrote:

Hahn hasnt even had a chance to show what he can do yet. And he's on a two year deal anyways.

machine wrote:

I disagree, but we will see, he's got another year to prove he's worthy of that ride. I think Bogles got more upside potential on a...

I disagree, but we will see, he's got another year to prove he's worthy of that ride. I think Bogles got more upside potential on a 450.

ButteryWaffles wrote:

Hahn has the Trey Canard effect on teams. He's the nice guy that has bad luck. Has Trey deserved to keep his spot at honda since...

Hahn has the Trey Canard effect on teams. He's the nice guy that has bad luck. Has Trey deserved to keep his spot at honda since 2011? Depends on who you ask but it's nice for a team to have a rider that's capable of getting that rock hard ride hard award.

Sully22 wrote:

Let's say MCR offered him 250k a year and Kawi offered like 60k a year...where would you go? I'd go with Kawi in a heartbeat. FYI...

Let's say MCR offered him 250k a year and Kawi offered like 60k a year...where would you go? I'd go with Kawi in a heartbeat.

FYI... i have zero knowledge of bogles situation, only throwing this out there as an example.

Brent wrote:

Jesus christ anyone who risks life and limb to ride at the pro level through 29 races for only 60K a year needs to go to...

Jesus christ anyone who risks life and limb to ride at the pro level through 29 races for only 60K a year needs to go to college or get a job in construction, because that little money is just not worth it.

Thats only a little over 2K a race.

I think the managers at McDonalds make more than that per year.

MotoMan12345 wrote:

Martin to RCH I bet for 450s

machine wrote:

If Kenny leaves that's a good possibility, especially since he trains at the farm.

Sully22 wrote:

For 2017, sure, I'd say that's a possibly. But for Kenny to leave and go somewhere else in 2016 he'd have to pony up $2 million...

For 2017, sure, I'd say that's a possibly. But for Kenny to leave and go somewhere else in 2016 he'd have to pony up $2 million for a buyout clause in the contract, which more than likely ain't going to happen...at least that's been the rumor about k-roc leaving. Otherwise, he's got next year to make it he marriage work with RCH. Martin is going to be a hot ticket...I wouldn't be surprised if he's already unofficially started talking to teams.

machine wrote:

If Kenny leaves that's a good possibility, especially since he trains at the farm.

Sully22 wrote:

For 2017, sure, I'd say that's a possibly. But for Kenny to leave and go somewhere else in 2016 he'd have to pony up $2 million...

For 2017, sure, I'd say that's a possibly. But for Kenny to leave and go somewhere else in 2016 he'd have to pony up $2 million for a buyout clause in the contract, which more than likely ain't going to happen...at least that's been the rumor about k-roc leaving. Otherwise, he's got next year to make it he marriage work with RCH. Martin is going to be a hot ticket...I wouldn't be surprised if he's already unofficially started talking to teams.

Lightning78 wrote:

I like all this Martin talk and him being the hot ticket but you guys are forgetting one seriously important fact Martin has had terrible Supercross...

I like all this Martin talk and him being the hot ticket but you guys are forgetting one seriously important fact Martin has had terrible Supercross seasons so far and his upside in that area which most teams favor when signing a rider 75% to 25% percent over an outdoor title is a big deal so I wouldn't think he would become a top tier title rider for RCH or a lot of other teams for that matter and RCH seems mainly focused on Supercross anyway to me it's far fetched

Sully22 wrote:

For 2017, sure, I'd say that's a possibly. But for Kenny to leave and go somewhere else in 2016 he'd have to pony up $2 million...

For 2017, sure, I'd say that's a possibly. But for Kenny to leave and go somewhere else in 2016 he'd have to pony up $2 million for a buyout clause in the contract, which more than likely ain't going to happen...at least that's been the rumor about k-roc leaving. Otherwise, he's got next year to make it he marriage work with RCH. Martin is going to be a hot ticket...I wouldn't be surprised if he's already unofficially started talking to teams.

Lightning78 wrote:

I like all this Martin talk and him being the hot ticket but you guys are forgetting one seriously important fact Martin has had terrible Supercross...

I like all this Martin talk and him being the hot ticket but you guys are forgetting one seriously important fact Martin has had terrible Supercross seasons so far and his upside in that area which most teams favor when signing a rider 75% to 25% percent over an outdoor title is a big deal so I wouldn't think he would become a top tier title rider for RCH or a lot of other teams for that matter and RCH seems mainly focused on Supercross anyway to me it's far fetched

Sully22 wrote:

I totally agree with you...what value is a team going to place on his SX skills when writing and proposing a contract, when SX is the...

I totally agree with you...what value is a team going to place on his SX skills when writing and proposing a contract, when SX is the area many teams focus on for exposure and ROI? If the guy doesn't qualify on a 450, for whatever reason, teams aren't exactly going to be super pumped on that, and I would imagine most teams interested in him would like to see big improvement in 250 SX this year. Not that he would do this, but he could ride the 250 for a few more years if he wanted to, couldn't he? I'm not sure where he is points wise for pointing out if the 250 SX class...

GD2 wrote:

Frye hasn't really gotten a chance to show his full potential, but I think they should have gone with Sanayei instead. Any word on where he...

Frye hasn't really gotten a chance to show his full potential, but I think they should have gone with Sanayei instead. Any word on where he may land? I know Nichols isn't sure where he will land yet, not sure about Marquier.

ML512 wrote:

Let's just say TLD may not exactly have had Frye as their first choice... KTM decision? :whistle: I'm not sure on Sanayei... The whole team green...

Let's just say TLD may not exactly have had Frye as their first choice... KTM decision?

I'm not sure on Sanayei... The whole team green A group this year is in a tough pickle. Not enough openings and none of them really stood out. Honestly, I'm thinking Sanayei should have taken the deal with Dixon's team in the GPs... if it's still available, I would really consider that option.

Huckster wrote:

Any word on what Nicoletti is doing for 2016?

Huckster wrote:

Any word on what Nicoletti is doing for 2016?

TeamGreen wrote:

He may very well show up on a Yamaha...

Lightning78 wrote:

I like all this Martin talk and him being the hot ticket but you guys are forgetting one seriously important fact Martin has had terrible Supercross...

I like all this Martin talk and him being the hot ticket but you guys are forgetting one seriously important fact Martin has had terrible Supercross seasons so far and his upside in that area which most teams favor when signing a rider 75% to 25% percent over an outdoor title is a big deal so I wouldn't think he would become a top tier title rider for RCH or a lot of other teams for that matter and RCH seems mainly focused on Supercross anyway to me it's far fetched

Huckster wrote:

Any word on what Nicoletti is doing for 2016?

TeamGreen wrote:

He may very well show up on a Yamaha...

Sully wrote:

On which continent, though?

TeamGreen wrote:

He may very well show up on a Yamaha...

Sully wrote:

On which continent, though?

TeamGreen wrote:

North America

TeamGreen wrote:

He may very well show up on a Yamaha...

Sully wrote:

On which continent, though?

TeamGreen wrote:

North America

TeamGreen wrote:

He may very well show up on a Yamaha...

Sully wrote:

On which continent, though?

TeamGreen wrote:

North America

Sully wrote:

On which continent, though?

TeamGreen wrote:

North America

Titan1 wrote:

On whatever team Reed is riding for?

TeamGreen wrote:

North America

Titan1 wrote:

On whatever team Reed is riding for?

TeamGreen wrote:

Well...

There will be no less than 5 Yamaha backed Teams next year (including Star & Rock River in 250)

machine wrote:

If Kenny leaves that's a good possibility, especially since he trains at the farm.

tucker122 wrote:

Machine... it is clear to me that you don't know what a contract is... I'm sorry but how many times has it been said that jmart...

Machine... it is clear to me that you don't know what a contract is... I'm sorry but how many times has it been said that jmart has signed with star on a 250 through 2016...

machine wrote:

You signed up today just to say that? This is all hypothetical talking here, not sure if your familiar with the concept. He has talked about...

You signed up today just to say that?

This is all hypothetical talking here, not sure if your familiar with the concept. He has talked about moving up to the 450's next year...hell it could be 2017, this is all just bullshiting about riders..nothing more.

Crisp BRAAAP! wrote:

Must have been a Matthes podcast but pretty sure that was the rumor: agent was asking for stupid money from Kawasaki and missed. Kawi probably felt...

Must have been a Matthes podcast but pretty sure that was the rumor: agent was asking for stupid money from Kawasaki and missed. Kawi probably felt the difference between Hahn and Bogle wasn't the difference in asking price. Or, maybe they have a heart and wanted to give Hahn a real shot.

Bogle might have to entertain MCR to have a bike and mechanic since there aren't many good seats open. Doing well and getting along with that crew would go a long way towards negotiations for next year. Hopefully he'll have a new agent.

Titan1 wrote:

On whatever team Reed is riding for?

TeamGreen wrote:

Well...

There will be no less than 5 Yamaha backed Teams next year (including Star & Rock River in 250)

Titan1 wrote:

5 Yamaha backed teams? That kinda (really) makes me want to go out and buy a Yamaha.

Sandberm wrote:

Lets make comparisons and look at potential based on other guys who came out of the 250 class in recent years. -In my opinion Bogle has...

Lets make comparisons and look at potential based on other guys who came out of the 250 class in recent years.

-In my opinion Bogle has MORE POTENTIAL then,...Tickle, Weimer and Hahn when they came out of the 250sx with regional titles.

-In my opinion he has EQUAL the potential that Seely and Anderson had when they moved up this year

-LESS potential then Tomac and Musquin.

So Bogle may not be a tier 1 rider but I think hes in tier 1B

Jamie_Munro wrote:

I think Bogle has more speed than Cole, same level as Anderson but needs race time , that's pretty obvious right now. In SX bogle should...

I think Bogle has more speed than Cole, same level as Anderson but needs race time , that's pretty obvious right now.

In SX bogle should be pretty good, although it's going to be damn hard to stand out in 2016 indoors, we have got some pretty sick riders in the big class next season.

Tough class

UpTiTe wrote:

I Would think That if riders are sick it would be easy to stand out. What's wrong? Epstien Barr or food poisoning? Those seem yo be...

I Would think That if riders are sick it would be easy to stand out. What's wrong? Epstien Barr or food poisoning? Those seem yo be the most popular.

GD2 wrote:

I believe Weimer plans on staying with Team Tedder next year, Wharton hasn't ruled out a come back at some point but it's pretty safe to...

I believe Weimer plans on staying with Team Tedder next year, Wharton hasn't ruled out a come back at some point but it's pretty safe to say it won't be '16, and Brayton still has a year left with BTO.

Crisp BRAAAP! wrote:

Must have been a Matthes podcast but pretty sure that was the rumor: agent was asking for stupid money from Kawasaki and missed. Kawi probably felt...

Must have been a Matthes podcast but pretty sure that was the rumor: agent was asking for stupid money from Kawasaki and missed. Kawi probably felt the difference between Hahn and Bogle wasn't the difference in asking price. Or, maybe they have a heart and wanted to give Hahn a real shot.

Bogle might have to entertain MCR to have a bike and mechanic since there aren't many good seats open. Doing well and getting along with that crew would go a long way towards negotiations for next year. Hopefully he'll have a new agent.

Moto_Hurricane wrote:

You guys crack me up. To say that Bogle deserves better than MCR is just ignorance. Mike didn't just win one Moto three years ago on...

You guys crack me up. To say that Bogle deserves better than MCR is just ignorance. Mike didn't just win one Moto three years ago on the MCR bike but he finished 6th in SX and 2nd in MX. He led over a 100 laps, 9 podiums and was the only threat to Dungey the whole summer. His bike was flawless in performance and it took Ryan not making any mistakes the whole series to capture the title. Nothing against the Dung cuz he's one of the best the sport has ever seen, but the lack of respect shown to Mike and the whole MCR team and effort is pure lack of knowing the real in and outs of pro Moto.

I also might add that MCR has been successfully competing in both the 250 and 450 class since 2009 and has got more podiums in both classes than any other non supported team in the paddock, while at the same time providing many riders, mechanics and mangers an above average income, while many other teams have closed their doors.

If there were more rock solid teams like MCR in the pits riders like Bogle would have life even that much better.

And no, I'm not Tony.

Aaryn234 wrote:

My bad for some reason thought his first title was 08, but it was 09 then a second in 2010, so by the time he races...

My bad for some reason thought his first title was 08, but it was 09 then a second in 2010, so by the time he races the 450 class in SX it will be 6 years not 8 sinces his title, so an even better reason to watch him in SX.

TeamGreen wrote:

Well...

There will be no less than 5 Yamaha backed Teams next year (including Star & Rock River in 250)

Titan1 wrote:

5 Yamaha backed teams? That kinda (really) makes me want to go out and buy a Yamaha.

kiwifan wrote:

Really? wow