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But you know what ? You are just about the worst offender for doing that ,
Just about all of your posts in threads such as this usually start off with " I love the GP,s , BUT " , and then you go on to slate them .
You have been here 4 months , so don't pretend to know my posting habits. I have always been a neutral guy , that is until some asshole starts slamming my country or our national series. Then it's game on.
The only thing I've ever started that was some what a trolling thread , was my 30 sec thread. But guess what? It fucking came true haha!
You have been here 4 months , so don't pretend to know my posting habits.
You always have to bring stuff like that up , as though , if you have not been a member for ages , then we are not worthy of a reply from somebody with such forum greatness as yourself .
I may have only joined a short time ago , but your anti Euro tone is pretty clear
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I just quote because that made me think about something, see my last paragraph.
I do not want to criticize Dungey, but I do not really agree on the second part but that his thought. (really hard pack, not a race track, and competition - which is in my mind pretty good too, quite equal).
Now about the track prep. How was outdoor racing in the US 10 years ago. Was Hangtown not hard pack ? What was the entry fee to practice in average ? Because indeed with really good track prep, the cost goes up (bull + gas + payroll). From what I understand from reading on vital, the entry cost to practice is about $50+ ? Here it is more 5 to 10€, so 6 to $12 for the afternoon/day. Hardpack is not always bad
Just because I've been here for 8-9yrs , doesn't mean anything. I'll talk good bench racing with a guy who signed up yesterday. Been watching and trying to keep up with the GP's since the Lackey and Laporte days , and STILL have all the old dirt bike mags in the attic to prove it. It's funny when someone from across the pond says " You don't know jack about the GP's " and then can never back it up in any of their arguments towards me. And again , I don't care that you have only been here 4 months , but in that short amount of time , you can't sit their with a strait face and tell me you know what my posting habits are like.
I'm not here to act superior to anyone , I just want to bench race and keep the conversations as civil as possible.
@Jose Espana, stick to the subject quit bashing people.
Just to justify my tought, here most riders are already complaining about the riding/racing cost (including myself who rarely ride anymore, which is not about cost but more because I am scared about bad injuries especially when I am not fit, or including my friends who are more serious into it).
The training licence is 180€ ($200). The racing licence is 260€ ($300). Practice fee is 5 to 10€ (6 to $12). Racing fee is 30 to 40€ (35 to $50). You may think it is really affordable compared to the US but actually here the number of riders dropped by probably 20% since 1. the 4 stroke, 2. the financial crisis, 3. the mandatory practice licence, 4. and since these fees went up by 20-40% a few years ago because of the insurance cost to held events.
Interesting to see the differences between the 2 main MX continents
Tracks I will agree on but so far Simpson & Herlings both say prep in AMA is much better, heard RV say on Sunday the amount of classes changes racing lines so ok RD has a point but maybe (ha) that will change. A lot of GP tracks follow similar layout - tabletops, rollers etc so maybe different surfaces but this is just wrong.
Some of the tracks in GP's are crap (IMO) surely a sign of a good track is if you would like to ride it??? As for track in France eh no thanks
Don't be a dickweed ...
For example , this is a previous reply you gave me ,
Oh man , I'm gonna make this short and simple.
You aint been here long enough to even deserve a good reply back from me. You're obviously some GP biased little dick and you aint worth my time.
Is that what you call not acting superior and keeping it civil ?
His words were " I thought about it until I seen Villo’s [Ryan Villopoto], just how everything worked out in that aspect "
Now you tell me what you think he meant by that ?
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Normally great but crappy track prep this year: Valkenswaard, Talavera, Villars-sous-Ecot, Teutschenthal, Uddevalla, Mantova.
Awesome: Argentina, Matterley, Loket.
Lommel is just bottomless sand. I hope Assen turns out to be great. Balance is: track preparation has been very very poor this year. It's the first year I've heard so much riders complain about it too. I don't know all of this is because Atkins left. Belgian Freddy Verherstraeten has been hired to prepare the tracks now. Although Atkins is building the Assen track right now, bit weird.
In that way Dungey is absolutely right. Us Euros can't bash on him for not coming over, as Cairoli also has stated he won't cross the pond. But I think competition over here is harder and more stacked (when everyone is fit). I can't see a guy like Fredrik Norén (with all respect) get a couple of top 10 finishes overhere. Guys like Juss Laansoo and Antonio Balbi regularly scored points in the States, overhere they barely made the top 20.
Maybe Dungey says the US competition is tougher because all he thinks about are the first 5 moto's of the season.
In all seriousness though, everybody is entitled to their opinion and it doesn't mean shit until they go over there and race.
I don not agree with him about the competition however. Riding mxgp is harder than racing the nationals for a few reasons. The biggest reason that we maybe all can agree on is that all the riders put all their focus in one serie, and one discipline.
I'm not impressed by the speed in the US nationals except for the top 5(when they are all on the gate) A normal year when there are some top riders missing because of "sx-only", injuries etc I'm not impressed at all after the top three in the 450-class.
More equal field in 250-class. I think they match MX2 pretty much.
We can all respect top class pro racers opinions, RD is a future legend in America and one of the best they have had, nobody can argue that the opinions of such folk are generally worth way more than the majority but sweeping comments made by anybody deserve the attention they get, his comments in this respect should have been censored by his brain before his tongue kicked in. Of course that's not always easy so this is obviously what he thinks, I can't get over the fact he uses RV as his yardstick for justification though
Might as well have called him day and lazy huh
Good one Jose
Tbf and in his defence jeffro is most often quite neutral even if a little USA USA Mericaaaa sometimes, of which he is more than entitled as we all are (some around here could try to remember that), that's not a terrible thing IMO and we are all patriotic at some point, there's not enough of it in England as we have been washed away by all the bullshit of having to be PC all the time so I mostly applaud it when I see it, you guys are banging heads so often as your opinion is so very strong.
motocross come from europe.
americans are racing, in their own way.
everbody enjoys it except dungey (and villo!)
heres a narrow hardpack track for you:
https://youtu.be/3q80iFQ9uhM
shut up
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