Dungey, Fastest rider ever?

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I would submit that if you took an average of every lap of every moto dungey has entered as a pro, he is the fastest rider ever. You would need to include a base time for laps in in moto's where riders DNF or DNS. (maybe give them the slowest time of the day for those laps.) I would think he has the highest moto completion percentage and did that while running with the elite times of the classes he entered. He doesn't have the 'fastest lap' but I bet he has the fastest motos. Thoughts
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You are talking about "win percentage"- and without even looking up stats, there's no way Dungey has a higher win percentage than RC.
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As far as pure speed goes, I would say Magoo or Stew. Crashes kill their avg lap times though. JMO.
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Yamafocker 8/19/2015 12:36pm
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No, not even close.
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TXDirt 8/19/2015 12:38pm
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Perhaps one of the most consistent riders ever. The most injury free rider ever maybe.

He's certainly one of the fastest. I don't think he is the fastest ever though. Certainly in the group...

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dazzlindino 8/19/2015 12:40pm
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...wasn't TC the best ever last week....
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theToothPerry 8/19/2015 12:56pm
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Most consistently fast, yes. Fastest? Not even close.
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not even close
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Ardfarkl 8/19/2015 1:02pm
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Most consistant, yes! Least hurt, maybe! Fastest? Put down the pipe bubba!
dazzlindino 8/19/2015 1:04pm
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Ardfarkl wrote:
Most consistant, yes! Least hurt, maybe! Fastest? Put down the pipe bubba!
...is that what Bubba got busted for...
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TailSoHard 8/19/2015 1:05pm
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You do realize that whoever has the fastest moto time wins the race? Therefore, whoever has the most wins would have the fastest moto times... and what happens when you divide the moto time by the number of laps?!?! Holy hell, average lap times!!
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theToothPerry wrote:
Most consistently fast, yes. Fastest? Not even close.
how do you you figure "Not even close"? RC, RV, JS, RD, KR, ET. The fastest riders in the past 15 years. They all have races where they've won by 45 seconds or more. They've all won titles and crushed their competition at respective times.
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VicDaMoan03 8/19/2015 1:12pm
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Lol no
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40Plus_922mx 8/19/2015 1:17pm
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JS7 is THE fastest guy ever to twist the throttle. Only talking sheer speed and nothing else.
ButteryWaffles 8/19/2015 1:20pm
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Fastest motos... Doesn't everyone complete a moto in 30 +2? First place finishes faster than second. Second faster than 3rd etc..
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hopgrower wrote:
I would submit that if you took an average of every lap of every moto dungey has entered as a pro, he is the fastest rider...
I would submit that if you took an average of every lap of every moto dungey has entered as a pro, he is the fastest rider ever. You would need to include a base time for laps in in moto's where riders DNF or DNS. (maybe give them the slowest time of the day for those laps.) I would think he has the highest moto completion percentage and did that while running with the elite times of the classes he entered. He doesn't have the 'fastest lap' but I bet he has the fastest motos. Thoughts
I think you need to dumb down this post as it is above the comprehensive abilities of 90% of vitards! Blink
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40Plus_922mx wrote:
JS7 is THE fastest guy ever to twist the throttle. Only talking sheer speed and nothing else.
but he couldnt beat ricky so...
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The Rock 8/19/2015 2:07pm
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Unknown.

I do know I would not bet against Ryan Dungey in SX or MX 2016 considering where he is at in his career which from my perspective is peaking.

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ButteryWaffles wrote:
Fastest motos... Doesn't everyone complete a moto in 30 +2? First place finishes faster than second. Second faster than 3rd etc..
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hopgrower wrote:
I would submit that if you took an average of every lap of every moto dungey has entered as a pro, he is the fastest rider...
I would submit that if you took an average of every lap of every moto dungey has entered as a pro, he is the fastest rider ever. You would need to include a base time for laps in in moto's where riders DNF or DNS. (maybe give them the slowest time of the day for those laps.) I would think he has the highest moto completion percentage and did that while running with the elite times of the classes he entered. He doesn't have the 'fastest lap' but I bet he has the fastest motos. Thoughts
Krazyk2774 wrote:
I think you need to dumb down this post as it is above the comprehensive abilities of 90% of vitards! Blink
after reading the replies, i agree. lol.

I think in averages, dungey would very well be a contender for what the OP is suggesting. If he keeps racing and putting down wins, he very well be undisputed.
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40Plus_922mx wrote:
JS7 is THE fastest guy ever to twist the throttle. Only talking sheer speed and nothing else.
Then why did RC constantly beat him ?
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Best balance of speed,skill,and consistenty probably. fastest? nope!
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40Plus_922mx wrote:
JS7 is THE fastest guy ever to twist the throttle. Only talking sheer speed and nothing else.
Fixed it for you. ET3 is THE fastest guy ever to twist the throttle in a single moto. Only talking sheer speed and nothing else.
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Xeno wrote:
You are talking about "win percentage"- and without even looking up stats, there's no way Dungey has a higher win percentage than RC.
Yet
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Think Tomac proved who was fastest, as far as "Ever"? I would put Magoo, Johnson, Gary Jones, Bob Hannah, Danny Laporte and Ron Lechien right there with Tomac. (Couple I missed for sure)
Now a common denominator with those fastest guys is? you got it...always banged up.

Now most consistent? Ya put Dunge right up there but I rather see guys race WFO than cruising and if you take that "Poll" as another thread stated. I bet most fans would like to see riders "Like" Tomac, Chandler, Johnson going for it every race than the humdrum it turned into after Tomac got hurt.

Dungey rode his ass off trying to stay with Tomac those first races, that's the kind of racing that will bring the fans out in droves and will build the sport. Nothing wrong with the way RD raced, just not what the fans come to enjoy.

Have to admit that those first four Nationals were some killer entertainment for those that live Moto.
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SCR 8/19/2015 4:57pm
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RC no matter how you compare it. Any other rider would need a second career to match what RC did.
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Old-Man wrote:
Think Tomac proved who was fastest, as far as "Ever"? I would put Magoo, Johnson, Gary Jones, Bob Hannah, Danny Laporte and Ron Lechien right there...
Think Tomac proved who was fastest, as far as "Ever"? I would put Magoo, Johnson, Gary Jones, Bob Hannah, Danny Laporte and Ron Lechien right there with Tomac. (Couple I missed for sure)
Now a common denominator with those fastest guys is? you got it...always banged up.

Now most consistent? Ya put Dunge right up there but I rather see guys race WFO than cruising and if you take that "Poll" as another thread stated. I bet most fans would like to see riders "Like" Tomac, Chandler, Johnson going for it every race than the humdrum it turned into after Tomac got hurt.

Dungey rode his ass off trying to stay with Tomac those first races, that's the kind of racing that will bring the fans out in droves and will build the sport. Nothing wrong with the way RD raced, just not what the fans come to enjoy.

Have to admit that those first four Nationals were some killer entertainment for those that live Moto.
Someone's a Tomac fanboyWhistling Get back to me when ET actually finishes a full season, and wins a 450 title of any kind. THAT is what they race for. That is what is impressive, not crazy balls over the head fast just to crash out and not to be seen again for 8 months...that's lame. To the OP.....RC by a mile...just like ^^SCR^^ just wrote.
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#991 8/19/2015 5:16pm
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RD fastest? Not even a hair on a freckle on JS#7's ass
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I've seen RC, DV, Matiasevich, Stephenson and RJ all call JS7 the fastest ever.
I would add Tomac, RC, Magoo and RV to the fastest list also.

Dungey is one of the most consistent I've ever seen, which is equally as impressive.

Opinions in these threads are almost always steered by which riders people like or don't like.
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brimx153 8/19/2015 5:22pm
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40Plus_922mx wrote:
JS7 is THE fastest guy ever to twist the throttle. Only talking sheer speed and nothing else.
execpt for the fact he could nt beat RC ???
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#991 8/19/2015 5:32pm
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40Plus_922mx wrote:
JS7 is THE fastest guy ever to twist the throttle. Only talking sheer speed and nothing else.
brimx153 wrote:
execpt for the fact he could nt beat RC ???
The fastest rider doesn't always win. Shit happens.

RC was obviously the better racer.

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