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Every time I ride I tip over in a corner and its driving me nuts. I fall in the direction I'm turning towards, what could I possibly be doing wrong? Any helpful tips appreciated.
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GeorgiePorgie 8/1/2015 5:36pm
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Are you trolling?
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yzjs7 8/1/2015 5:37pm
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No I'm serious,had a bad day at the track and need some advice. I can jump for show but can't corner for dough.
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Maybe not looking far enough ahead? Rutted or flat corners, sandy or hardpack?
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Open up the right hand smoothly. Forward motion will stop it.

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I smell some heavy sarcasm.
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since you didn't mention your front wheel washing out, it is probably lack of momentum and the resultant effects of gravity..
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Make sure you do your braking before the corner, not IN the corner. I personally like to stay standing as long as possible, then transition to sitting @ the apex there or abouts.

Also, whatever corner your having trouble in, take some time to just sit and watch faster riders- watch closely, pay attention to their body positioning, and try and mirror them. I believe Doug Doubac has a few videos on YouTube that are very informative.

Good luck- PracticePracticePracticePractice
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dont suck so much
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What Superdave19 said. There should be no stop and go in a corner. Keeping momentum all throughout the corner is key. Also make sure to not enter the corner to sharp, but instead come in from the middle or outside of the track.
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mxrider971 wrote:
What Superdave19 said. There should be no stop and go in a corner. Keeping momentum all throughout the corner is key. Also make sure to not...
What Superdave19 said. There should be no stop and go in a corner. Keeping momentum all throughout the corner is key. Also make sure to not enter the corner to sharp, but instead come in from the middle or outside of the track.
X3 brother.... smooth is fast and roll on the throttle.

I always look to where I am going to apex and right before I get there look up the track to the next obstacle and feed out the clutch and roll the throttle on... the bike will go where you are looking!!!!

if you look at the front fender you will always have a bad outcome.... oh and we all still do it!! Tongue
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Nuts on gas cap
Look ahead
Momentum momentum momentum
A new front tire
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Mustard Tiger wrote:
dont suck so much
Sounds like insight from a 5 year old...
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Mustard Tiger wrote:
dont suck so much
Brad460 wrote:
Sounds like insight from a 5 year old...
Yeah he forgot he was not in a call of duty lobby.
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Langhammx 8/1/2015 8:09pm
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BobPA wrote:
Nuts on gas cap
Look ahead
Momentum momentum momentum
A new front tire
^^^ THIS^^^

Seat position is key and good tires (MX32 / MX52, IMO) will be very helpful.
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tasco 8/1/2015 9:53pm
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Posting a video of yourself cornering would help us..

Or just do what this guy says. He seems to know what he is doing.

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yzjs7 wrote:
Every time I ride I tip over in a corner and its driving me nuts. I fall in the direction I'm turning towards, what could I...
Every time I ride I tip over in a corner and its driving me nuts. I fall in the direction I'm turning towards, what could I possibly be doing wrong? Any helpful tips appreciated.
i see no good answers yet.. corners are easy. You commit by setting up before you get into the corner, then you hit your line and rol onto the throttle as you look where you want to go. The most important part is looking ahead. You will always go where your looking. Commit and keep the fuel on as much as possible
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tasco wrote:
Posting a video of yourself cornering would help us.. Or just do what this guy says. He seems to know what he is doing. [embed]http://www.redbull.com/us/en/motorsports/offroad/stories/1331737844514/super-slo-moto-musquin-corner-video[/embed]
Posting a video of yourself cornering would help us..

Or just do what this guy says. He seems to know what he is doing.

that is baby boy stuff, only men on two strokes can corner

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Find a turn track, preferably not a groomed mx track. Practice everything that super dave said, over and over and over again. Very important to get ALL braking done prior to turn entrance, weighting the outside peg and looking ahead as far as possible.
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yzjs7 8/1/2015 10:02pm
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I have a 2 stroke yz 250 2015. Rutted corners is where I tip over,gets me every time. Feel like my weight is too far to the inside? My guess is something off with my body position.
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Weight the outside peg more.. Takes time to make yourself remember to push down on the peg with the outside leg, but makes a huge difference. Also, suspension set up helps if its set up correctly.
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Outsider wrote:
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What he said and look where you want to go. You're welcome.....
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yzjs7 wrote:
I have a 2 stroke yz 250 2015. Rutted corners is where I tip over,gets me every time. Feel like my weight is too far to...
I have a 2 stroke yz 250 2015. Rutted corners is where I tip over,gets me every time. Feel like my weight is too far to the inside? My guess is something off with my body position.
Sounds like you are concentrating on the rut to much. Look ahead, not looking at the rut is best thing you can do. Just be smooth and pretend the rut is not even there...
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Outsider 8/2/2015 12:27am
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yzjs7 wrote:
I have a 2 stroke yz 250 2015. Rutted corners is where I tip over,gets me every time. Feel like my weight is too far to...
I have a 2 stroke yz 250 2015. Rutted corners is where I tip over,gets me every time. Feel like my weight is too far to the inside? My guess is something off with my body position.
Seriously dude, if you're tipping over in a rut, you're not hitting it fast enough. Yes, you should look ahead but you need to overcome your fear and hit it a little faster everytime if possible while staying smooth, with consistent throttle, braking done before the turn mostly, not point and shoot in a rut.

When I started riding sport bikes I wanted to drag my knee sooo bad... it got to the point where I was hanging off the side of the bike so much I just looked ridiculous and I still couldn't get a knee down. After practicing with faster guys and learning to trust my tires, the road surface, and the bike I could push faster, which meant more lean angle which meant that heavenly feeling of gliding that knee puck around the apex of the turn. Yes, it's road riding and not dirt but the theory is the same. You need to enough speed to defy gravity and keep yourself from falling over with MORE SPEED.

I ain't no pro by any means but my theory is correct... keep practicing and pushing corners while leaving the jumps alone for parts of your practice, and better yet pull off the track in safe places and repeat a corner over and over.. and not just left turns either Smile

It works trust me, this pic was after about 5 or 6 Saturday morning trips to Palomar... you'll be smoother and having a lot more funWink



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motokiwi 8/2/2015 12:49am
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What would happen in more detail? The front ride over the rut and u fall the other way?


If you were riding on the outside WALL of the rut (compared to keeping your wheel in the middle of the rut) and Simply fell over - chances are you didn't have enough momentum.


Try fanning the clutch in the apex (middle) of the corner to make the wheels bed in and stick like "shit to a blanket".

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Superdave19 wrote:
Make sure you do your braking before the corner, not IN the corner. I personally like to stay standing as long as possible, then transition to...
Make sure you do your braking before the corner, not IN the corner. I personally like to stay standing as long as possible, then transition to sitting @ the apex there or abouts.

Also, whatever corner your having trouble in, take some time to just sit and watch faster riders- watch closely, pay attention to their body positioning, and try and mirror them. I believe Doug Doubac has a few videos on YouTube that are very informative.

Good luck- PracticePracticePracticePractice
Make sure you do your braking before the corner, not IN the corner. Marty Smith told me the same thing back in 97 except he sat down entering the corner and then stood up exiting the corner and remained standing until the next corner. Marty drew a skiing analogy to the movement and to accent getting on the edge of the ski completely he suggested lifting the inside foot off the peg
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Cornering with Moose...

travis-grant 8/2/2015 6:50am
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689 wrote:
Maybe not looking far enough ahead? Rutted or flat corners, sandy or hardpack?
Dude......
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S.Loyer 8/2/2015 7:06am
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There's a lot of factors for this -

Is it a flat corner?
What's the dirt like?
Is it ruts?
Whats the dirt like?
Which direction is the corner, typically?

Pretty much it just gets down to this.
Look ahead, you may think you already are, but I doubt it.
Look ahead even harder.
Leg up.
Don't drag that back break.
Front break, even in the corner, it will keep the front tire down and getting traction.
Don't lay it on hard be sensible, think how a pro would do it.
Don't hold that clutch in and dump.
Just like a pro would.
On the front break going in, clutch out and throttle on when you enter.
I can not tell you how MUCH LOOKING AHEAD PROPERLY matters.
travis-grant 8/2/2015 7:12am
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S.Loyer wrote:
There's a lot of factors for this - Is it a flat corner? What's the dirt like? Is it ruts? Whats the dirt like? Which direction...
There's a lot of factors for this -

Is it a flat corner?
What's the dirt like?
Is it ruts?
Whats the dirt like?
Which direction is the corner, typically?

Pretty much it just gets down to this.
Look ahead, you may think you already are, but I doubt it.
Look ahead even harder.
Leg up.
Don't drag that back break.
Front break, even in the corner, it will keep the front tire down and getting traction.
Don't lay it on hard be sensible, think how a pro would do it.
Don't hold that clutch in and dump.
Just like a pro would.
On the front break going in, clutch out and throttle on when you enter.
I can not tell you how MUCH LOOKING AHEAD PROPERLY matters.
Again...

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