Tomac 24-0 ???????????

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jeffro503 5/24/2015 10:25am
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I think we'll see him up there eventually. I also think he's just so damn small and that isn't helping. RC and RV were both small as well , but they were also a lot thicker with muscle and strong as hell. I think Blake just needs more strength to be honest , and do it without losing any cardio. He's just starting this 450 gig , so I expect over time he will get there. I don't think he likes seeing Kenny , Eli and El Hombre in front of him. Seems like those 4 guys just love beating each other more than anyone else.
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jgmxdad251 5/24/2015 10:27am
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5th and 7th overall in his first two races on a 450 is pretty good, don't you think? Think he could of done better. He seems to be getting shuffled at the begging of the races and can't get by the people he seems to faster than at the end. All four of his motos he was right on someone at the end and couldn't get by them! He looks tired at the end of races! ................ This is just my observation, I am not an expert!Wink Wink
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moto282 5/24/2015 10:34am
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If a photographer doesn't run in front of him at Thunder Valley I could see Eli going 24-0 Smile jk.

Remember when Stewart won the first motos of the year and then Dungey bounced back? Can't count out Dungey because he will always be there. But I'm pulling for Eli and if he can stay out of trouble he has the best shot at winning the championship being the fastest guy out there. I think a big bike championship would boost Eli's confidence and make him even stronger next year.
ButteryWaffles 5/24/2015 11:35am
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Dunge looked slow yesterday. Seem to be laboring in the corners and just looked way off pace even though the lap times didn't show it. Not sure what was so bad about the KTM that they needed to get a whole new bike again after only two years.

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ButteryWaffles wrote:
Dunge looked slow yesterday. Seem to be laboring in the corners and just looked way off pace even though the lap times didn't show it. Not...
Dunge looked slow yesterday. Seem to be laboring in the corners and just looked way off pace even though the lap times didn't show it. Not sure what was so bad about the KTM that they needed to get a whole new bike again after only two years.
Agree...Just didn't seem to have raw speed like Eli.

BTW: What did happen to Dungey's bike in Moto1?
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Rick M. 5/24/2015 11:50am
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Dungey seems to have caught a bad case of TomacAgina. Sadly for the dunge, more cowbell won't help. He is in for a looooong summer.
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ButteryWaffles wrote:
Dunge looked slow yesterday. Seem to be laboring in the corners and just looked way off pace even though the lap times didn't show it. Not...
Dunge looked slow yesterday. Seem to be laboring in the corners and just looked way off pace even though the lap times didn't show it. Not sure what was so bad about the KTM that they needed to get a whole new bike again after only two years.
KTM wanted the SX Title badly that's the reason for the new bike!
Now they pay the price to get it dialed in for the Outdoors.

I expect Eli winning the next 4 motos as well after that #5 will have kept up.
#94 is still not fit expected him to be a little further already.
He can 1-2 fast labs but not the entire moto yet.

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Here is the reality. Eli was only slightly faster than RD moto 1 Hangtown. RD backed off late in that moto. Moto 2 RD early in the race decided to settle for 2nd on a dangerous track which he never wins at. Look at all the bad injuries that happened to top riders... RD is the smartest rider out there bar none. RD could have pushed the whole race and finished 20-30 seconds behind Eli but whats the point. Risk reward. So RD LET him win by 1:30.

Glen Helen. RD was equally as fast as Eli in moto 1. He held him off for many laps, and then when ET tried to push for the lead, RD kicked it into another gear and started pulling away from ET for atleast half a lap, and then his damn bike started to have problems with stalling. RD did not make a mistake, I believe whoever WASHED RD's bike made a mistake... I bet that is what caused the electronics problem. Same thing as J Martin... Makes sense, muddy track, mud everywhere on / in the bike, over aggressive washing causes too much water to get places it should not.

therefore, Eli is doing Great sure, but he has a track record of wadding it up from going so fast. He reminds me a lot of James Stewart. there is no way he wins all the motos this year if RD stays healthy and if RD doesn't have any more bike trouble.

fyi I don't know what happened moto 2 GH as I could care less as I don't pay to watch moto 2 and I already figured RD would probably get 2nd.
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RDfan wrote:
Here is the reality. Eli was only slightly faster than RD moto 1 Hangtown. RD backed off late in that moto. Moto 2 RD early in...
Here is the reality. Eli was only slightly faster than RD moto 1 Hangtown. RD backed off late in that moto. Moto 2 RD early in the race decided to settle for 2nd on a dangerous track which he never wins at. Look at all the bad injuries that happened to top riders... RD is the smartest rider out there bar none. RD could have pushed the whole race and finished 20-30 seconds behind Eli but whats the point. Risk reward. So RD LET him win by 1:30.

Glen Helen. RD was equally as fast as Eli in moto 1. He held him off for many laps, and then when ET tried to push for the lead, RD kicked it into another gear and started pulling away from ET for atleast half a lap, and then his damn bike started to have problems with stalling. RD did not make a mistake, I believe whoever WASHED RD's bike made a mistake... I bet that is what caused the electronics problem. Same thing as J Martin... Makes sense, muddy track, mud everywhere on / in the bike, over aggressive washing causes too much water to get places it should not.

therefore, Eli is doing Great sure, but he has a track record of wadding it up from going so fast. He reminds me a lot of James Stewart. there is no way he wins all the motos this year if RD stays healthy and if RD doesn't have any more bike trouble.

fyi I don't know what happened moto 2 GH as I could care less as I don't pay to watch moto 2 and I already figured RD would probably get 2nd.
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RDfan wrote:
Here is the reality. Eli was only slightly faster than RD moto 1 Hangtown. RD backed off late in that moto. Moto 2 RD early in...
Here is the reality. Eli was only slightly faster than RD moto 1 Hangtown. RD backed off late in that moto. Moto 2 RD early in the race decided to settle for 2nd on a dangerous track which he never wins at. Look at all the bad injuries that happened to top riders... RD is the smartest rider out there bar none. RD could have pushed the whole race and finished 20-30 seconds behind Eli but whats the point. Risk reward. So RD LET him win by 1:30.

Glen Helen. RD was equally as fast as Eli in moto 1. He held him off for many laps, and then when ET tried to push for the lead, RD kicked it into another gear and started pulling away from ET for atleast half a lap, and then his damn bike started to have problems with stalling. RD did not make a mistake, I believe whoever WASHED RD's bike made a mistake... I bet that is what caused the electronics problem. Same thing as J Martin... Makes sense, muddy track, mud everywhere on / in the bike, over aggressive washing causes too much water to get places it should not.

therefore, Eli is doing Great sure, but he has a track record of wadding it up from going so fast. He reminds me a lot of James Stewart. there is no way he wins all the motos this year if RD stays healthy and if RD doesn't have any more bike trouble.

fyi I don't know what happened moto 2 GH as I could care less as I don't pay to watch moto 2 and I already figured RD would probably get 2nd.
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The race was over by turn 3.

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I love tomac, but zero chance going 24/0.
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If you look yesterday. Kroc was only like .3 off Eli for best time. RD was like .8 I believe. Eli gets one shitty start and...
If you look yesterday. Kroc was only like .3 off Eli for best time. RD was like .8 I believe. Eli gets one shitty start and 1 of those two get out front early the perfect season is over.

With only a bad start or simple tip over I belive no one else besides Kroc or Rd will be ahead of him.
None of the others some of you listed are anywhere near fast enough to even be considered in this conversation. Peick was 4th fastest yesterday and he was over 3 seconds slower than dungey.

Barring injuries this title come down to three people. None of the second test group have a shot in title. I would have put a healthy canard in this top tier as well. If either one of the top three go down off the start they are capable of a podium by races end!!

But hey, it's possible til he loses one right. I remember a dominating rv starting 4-0 two years ago. He came into muddy creek, got 1st moto holes shot and the lost front end not 4 corners into the race. He came through the pack pretty good but was never going to catch dungey or barcia. I think he fell once again toward the end of that race. So it's probably not going to happen.
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RDfan wrote:
Here is the reality. Eli was only slightly faster than RD moto 1 Hangtown. RD backed off late in that moto. Moto 2 RD early in...
Here is the reality. Eli was only slightly faster than RD moto 1 Hangtown. RD backed off late in that moto. Moto 2 RD early in the race decided to settle for 2nd on a dangerous track which he never wins at. Look at all the bad injuries that happened to top riders... RD is the smartest rider out there bar none. RD could have pushed the whole race and finished 20-30 seconds behind Eli but whats the point. Risk reward. So RD LET him win by 1:30.

Glen Helen. RD was equally as fast as Eli in moto 1. He held him off for many laps, and then when ET tried to push for the lead, RD kicked it into another gear and started pulling away from ET for atleast half a lap, and then his damn bike started to have problems with stalling. RD did not make a mistake, I believe whoever WASHED RD's bike made a mistake... I bet that is what caused the electronics problem. Same thing as J Martin... Makes sense, muddy track, mud everywhere on / in the bike, over aggressive washing causes too much water to get places it should not.

therefore, Eli is doing Great sure, but he has a track record of wadding it up from going so fast. He reminds me a lot of James Stewart. there is no way he wins all the motos this year if RD stays healthy and if RD doesn't have any more bike trouble.

fyi I don't know what happened moto 2 GH as I could care less as I don't pay to watch moto 2 and I already figured RD would probably get 2nd.
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RDfan wrote:
Here is the reality. Eli was only slightly faster than RD moto 1 Hangtown. RD backed off late in that moto. Moto 2 RD early in...
Here is the reality. Eli was only slightly faster than RD moto 1 Hangtown. RD backed off late in that moto. Moto 2 RD early in the race decided to settle for 2nd on a dangerous track which he never wins at. Look at all the bad injuries that happened to top riders... RD is the smartest rider out there bar none. RD could have pushed the whole race and finished 20-30 seconds behind Eli but whats the point. Risk reward. So RD LET him win by 1:30.

Glen Helen. RD was equally as fast as Eli in moto 1. He held him off for many laps, and then when ET tried to push for the lead, RD kicked it into another gear and started pulling away from ET for atleast half a lap, and then his damn bike started to have problems with stalling. RD did not make a mistake, I believe whoever WASHED RD's bike made a mistake... I bet that is what caused the electronics problem. Same thing as J Martin... Makes sense, muddy track, mud everywhere on / in the bike, over aggressive washing causes too much water to get places it should not.

therefore, Eli is doing Great sure, but he has a track record of wadding it up from going so fast. He reminds me a lot of James Stewart. there is no way he wins all the motos this year if RD stays healthy and if RD doesn't have any more bike trouble.

fyi I don't know what happened moto 2 GH as I could care less as I don't pay to watch moto 2 and I already figured RD would probably get 2nd.
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2 crappy screenshots but showing Tomac turning the bike in the air through those 2 turns. Exciting to watch.
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RDfan wrote:
Here is the reality. Eli was only slightly faster than RD moto 1 Hangtown. RD backed off late in that moto. Moto 2 RD early in...
Here is the reality. Eli was only slightly faster than RD moto 1 Hangtown. RD backed off late in that moto. Moto 2 RD early in the race decided to settle for 2nd on a dangerous track which he never wins at. Look at all the bad injuries that happened to top riders... RD is the smartest rider out there bar none. RD could have pushed the whole race and finished 20-30 seconds behind Eli but whats the point. Risk reward. So RD LET him win by 1:30.

Glen Helen. RD was equally as fast as Eli in moto 1. He held him off for many laps, and then when ET tried to push for the lead, RD kicked it into another gear and started pulling away from ET for atleast half a lap, and then his damn bike started to have problems with stalling. RD did not make a mistake, I believe whoever WASHED RD's bike made a mistake... I bet that is what caused the electronics problem. Same thing as J Martin... Makes sense, muddy track, mud everywhere on / in the bike, over aggressive washing causes too much water to get places it should not.

therefore, Eli is doing Great sure, but he has a track record of wadding it up from going so fast. He reminds me a lot of James Stewart. there is no way he wins all the motos this year if RD stays healthy and if RD doesn't have any more bike trouble.

fyi I don't know what happened moto 2 GH as I could care less as I don't pay to watch moto 2 and I already figured RD would probably get 2nd.
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Rick M. wrote:
Dungey seems to have caught a bad case of TomacAgina. Sadly for the dunge, more cowbell won't help. He is in for a looooong summer.
Was that supposed to be funny Rick? They are all in for a long summer. Tomac deserves all the praise he's getting at this point. However, I doubt you are qualified to give real input regarding RD's needs on or off the track. Let us look forward to Thunder Valley. In the meantime. ...have fun!

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WFO! wrote:
[img]http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee146/pressrolls/tomac180.jpg[/img] [img]http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee146/pressrolls/tomac1802.jpg[/img] 2 crappy screenshots but showing Tomac turning the bike in the air through those 2 turns. Exciting to watch.






2 crappy screenshots but showing Tomac turning the bike in the air through those 2 turns. Exciting to watch.
yep. It is both beautiful and awsome to witness that level of talent. Got his own style for sure. Killer!
TwoStroke_857 5/24/2015 7:22pm
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While I am a Dungey fan, I cannot deny the excellence Tomac has shown these past two rounds. I said it before the season started- If Tomac rises up and runs away with this title, I am perfectly fine with that. The guy deserves it and rides so aggressive while in control. I've been on the edge of my seat all 4 motos so far watching him ride.
If he goes 1-1 in Thunder Valley, this thread may become more relevant to the title. Smile
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karsmakers 5/24/2015 9:23pm
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Rick M. wrote:
Dungey seems to have caught a bad case of TomacAgina. Sadly for the dunge, more cowbell won't help. He is in for a looooong summer.
phantom 662 wrote:
Was that supposed to be funny Rick? They are all in for a long summer. Tomac deserves all the praise he's getting at this point. However...
Was that supposed to be funny Rick? They are all in for a long summer. Tomac deserves all the praise he's getting at this point. However, I doubt you are qualified to give real input regarding RD's needs on or off the track. Let us look forward to Thunder Valley. In the meantime. ...have fun!
I thought it was funny...so yes it was
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RDfan wrote:
Here is the reality. Eli was only slightly faster than RD moto 1 Hangtown. RD backed off late in that moto. Moto 2 RD early in...
Here is the reality. Eli was only slightly faster than RD moto 1 Hangtown. RD backed off late in that moto. Moto 2 RD early in the race decided to settle for 2nd on a dangerous track which he never wins at. Look at all the bad injuries that happened to top riders... RD is the smartest rider out there bar none. RD could have pushed the whole race and finished 20-30 seconds behind Eli but whats the point. Risk reward. So RD LET him win by 1:30.

Glen Helen. RD was equally as fast as Eli in moto 1. He held him off for many laps, and then when ET tried to push for the lead, RD kicked it into another gear and started pulling away from ET for atleast half a lap, and then his damn bike started to have problems with stalling. RD did not make a mistake, I believe whoever WASHED RD's bike made a mistake... I bet that is what caused the electronics problem. Same thing as J Martin... Makes sense, muddy track, mud everywhere on / in the bike, over aggressive washing causes too much water to get places it should not.

therefore, Eli is doing Great sure, but he has a track record of wadding it up from going so fast. He reminds me a lot of James Stewart. there is no way he wins all the motos this year if RD stays healthy and if RD doesn't have any more bike trouble.

fyi I don't know what happened moto 2 GH as I could care less as I don't pay to watch moto 2 and I already figured RD would probably get 2nd.
We all gladly pay to watch moto 2, whats your problem
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Given his tendency to get a fair number of bad starts, I'd say he has an uphill battle for 24-0.
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RDfan wrote:
Here is the reality. Eli was only slightly faster than RD moto 1 Hangtown. RD backed off late in that moto. Moto 2 RD early in...
Here is the reality. Eli was only slightly faster than RD moto 1 Hangtown. RD backed off late in that moto. Moto 2 RD early in the race decided to settle for 2nd on a dangerous track which he never wins at. Look at all the bad injuries that happened to top riders... RD is the smartest rider out there bar none. RD could have pushed the whole race and finished 20-30 seconds behind Eli but whats the point. Risk reward. So RD LET him win by 1:30.

Glen Helen. RD was equally as fast as Eli in moto 1. He held him off for many laps, and then when ET tried to push for the lead, RD kicked it into another gear and started pulling away from ET for atleast half a lap, and then his damn bike started to have problems with stalling. RD did not make a mistake, I believe whoever WASHED RD's bike made a mistake... I bet that is what caused the electronics problem. Same thing as J Martin... Makes sense, muddy track, mud everywhere on / in the bike, over aggressive washing causes too much water to get places it should not.

therefore, Eli is doing Great sure, but he has a track record of wadding it up from going so fast. He reminds me a lot of James Stewart. there is no way he wins all the motos this year if RD stays healthy and if RD doesn't have any more bike trouble.

fyi I don't know what happened moto 2 GH as I could care less as I don't pay to watch moto 2 and I already figured RD would probably get 2nd.
Bro RDfan aka (ryan dungey fan) Eli does not have a track record of wadding up from going so fast. Yes, if I was a dungey fan too, I would make excuses as to why tomac won by such a large margin. Dungey was equally as fast as tomac in moto 1 at glen Helen? How do you figure? Tomac was buying his time waiting for an easy pass. Whether dungey killed his bike or not he would have passed him and yarded him. Maybe next race eli will only win by 30 sec instead of a minute and dungey will talk about on the podium how theyre making progress and getting closer.
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Hondas are underpowered.

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He can, until he loses one.
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Hondas are underpowered. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/64/photos/83727/s1600_052415ghblast_ml008.jpg[/img]
Hondas are underpowered.

yes but during the SX season it was the Hondas fault according to a lot here, most who race know it is technique, bike setup with a little bit of rider reaction thrown in, sounds like he has it sorted.
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RDfan wrote:
Here is the reality. Eli was only slightly faster than RD moto 1 Hangtown. RD backed off late in that moto. Moto 2 RD early in...
Here is the reality. Eli was only slightly faster than RD moto 1 Hangtown. RD backed off late in that moto. Moto 2 RD early in the race decided to settle for 2nd on a dangerous track which he never wins at. Look at all the bad injuries that happened to top riders... RD is the smartest rider out there bar none. RD could have pushed the whole race and finished 20-30 seconds behind Eli but whats the point. Risk reward. So RD LET him win by 1:30.

Glen Helen. RD was equally as fast as Eli in moto 1. He held him off for many laps, and then when ET tried to push for the lead, RD kicked it into another gear and started pulling away from ET for atleast half a lap, and then his damn bike started to have problems with stalling. RD did not make a mistake, I believe whoever WASHED RD's bike made a mistake... I bet that is what caused the electronics problem. Same thing as J Martin... Makes sense, muddy track, mud everywhere on / in the bike, over aggressive washing causes too much water to get places it should not.

therefore, Eli is doing Great sure, but he has a track record of wadding it up from going so fast. He reminds me a lot of James Stewart. there is no way he wins all the motos this year if RD stays healthy and if RD doesn't have any more bike trouble.

fyi I don't know what happened moto 2 GH as I could care less as I don't pay to watch moto 2 and I already figured RD would probably get 2nd.
Wow. This is very intuitive. You must have talked with Dungey.

I can't say I have a favorite rider, but I like Dungey as much as anyone. At the moment, Tomac is just faster than everyone else. It is okay to acknowledge this. Will Eli be able to remain faster all year? Time will tell. Maybe he will drop off the pace or maybe the other top contenders will pick up their's, but at any rate, I don't believe Dungey or anyone else is just letting Eli win by such large margins. I believe Eli is just riding that well so far.

Just relax. Dungey will win some motos this summer and who knows, he could still take the title. Everythimg will be okay man.

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