Who has the authority to let JS7 race?

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Kartwheel84c 4/30/2015 12:25pm
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Are you kidding me? I didn't know that the FIM was in charge of this, I thought it was the AMA. Are you sure?
The FIM is not directly in charge of any National series, that is the purpose of having affiliate members from each country, which the AMA is the affiliate member for the US. 111 countries have an affiliate member of the FIM and one of the benifits of being the affiliate is you are the ONLY sanctioning body whos series is recognized by all the other FIM members.. The FIM does not directly control rules and things like sound levels, but if the FIM bans a rider like James who participates in a country's national series who is an affiliate member (the AMA) then that rider can not participate. In addition, the FIM and almost all other sports global organizations like the FIA for auto racing, UCI is the global organization for cycling, ITF is the one for Tennis, IAAF is for track and field, FIFA is for soccer, etc, almost all sports have a global governing body like the FIM. All of those organizations joined with WADA to create a global system to handle performance enhancing drug use. The entire reason WADA exists is so they will not say "oh, its James Stewart, we need to cut him some slack" the entire reason WADA (and by extension USADA) exists is to hold everyone to the same standard, no matter how big or small a deal they are in their individual sport.

FIM is new to this, but most other sports have been part of this system for decades, and if you are a fan of those other sports, you know that what is happening to JS7 is NOT unusual or unprecedented. In fact, he is being punished exactly like any other athlete would, and has, been punished hundreds of times in the past. He just happens to be the first one for our sport, but this is old news for most sports.
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Who? Father Time and the calendar.
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burn1986 4/30/2015 12:44pm
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burn1986 wrote:
Are you kidding me? I didn't know that the FIM was in charge of this, I thought it was the AMA. Are you sure?
Kartwheel84c wrote:
The FIM is not directly in charge of any National series, that is the purpose of having affiliate members from each country, which the AMA is...
The FIM is not directly in charge of any National series, that is the purpose of having affiliate members from each country, which the AMA is the affiliate member for the US. 111 countries have an affiliate member of the FIM and one of the benifits of being the affiliate is you are the ONLY sanctioning body whos series is recognized by all the other FIM members.. The FIM does not directly control rules and things like sound levels, but if the FIM bans a rider like James who participates in a country's national series who is an affiliate member (the AMA) then that rider can not participate. In addition, the FIM and almost all other sports global organizations like the FIA for auto racing, UCI is the global organization for cycling, ITF is the one for Tennis, IAAF is for track and field, FIFA is for soccer, etc, almost all sports have a global governing body like the FIM. All of those organizations joined with WADA to create a global system to handle performance enhancing drug use. The entire reason WADA exists is so they will not say "oh, its James Stewart, we need to cut him some slack" the entire reason WADA (and by extension USADA) exists is to hold everyone to the same standard, no matter how big or small a deal they are in their individual sport.

FIM is new to this, but most other sports have been part of this system for decades, and if you are a fan of those other sports, you know that what is happening to JS7 is NOT unusual or unprecedented. In fact, he is being punished exactly like any other athlete would, and has, been punished hundreds of times in the past. He just happens to be the first one for our sport, but this is old news for most sports.
Well that cleared it up, lol

Alright man, were beating a dead horse
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burn1986 4/30/2015 12:45pm
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OW38B wrote:
I concur. Many in the VitalMX world have a hard time seeing any difference. If I were JBS, I would make sure I took an Adderall...
I concur.

Many in the VitalMX world have a hard time seeing any difference.

If I were JBS, I would make sure I took an Adderall on the start line at all of the races next year just as the camera went by.
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Burn You are are holding on too tight and cannot focus. We are on the support JBS team and think the whole drug thing is a...
Burn You are are holding on too tight and cannot focus.

We are on the support JBS team and think the whole drug thing is a fiasco.
I'm an ass. Sorry, I misread it. "The forest for the trees"

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Lucifa. 4/30/2015 1:01pm
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Who has the authority to let JS7 race?


CAS
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This is a done deal. Let it go people. Move on. Nothing more to see here.
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kongols 4/30/2015 1:20pm
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Lucifa. wrote:
Who has the authority to let JS7 race?


CAS
Actually, I believe he can appeal to Swiss Supreme court, but I don`t see a point of doing that anymore, except for clearing his name.
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burn1986 4/30/2015 3:25pm
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kongols wrote:
Actually, I believe he can appeal to Swiss Supreme court, but I don`t see a point of doing that anymore, except for clearing his name.
Really? Actually didn't know that.
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Lucifa. wrote:
Who has the authority to let JS7 race?


CAS
kongols wrote:
Actually, I believe he can appeal to Swiss Supreme court, but I don`t see a point of doing that anymore, except for clearing his name.
. . . and then he can go to the Global court of appeals followed by a plea to the Supreme Court of the Universe followed by an appeal to God. This fight ain't over, bros.
lostboy819 4/30/2015 4:18pm
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walleyeguy wrote:
Ok. I guess the more relevant question is then is where CAN he race? There has to be a series or races somewhere that does not...
Ok. I guess the more relevant question is then is where CAN he race? There has to be a series or races somewhere that does not require an AMA licence.
Or maybe he will just sit out and take his suspension like a man.
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The Rock 4/30/2015 7:23pm
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downard254 wrote:
This is a done deal. Let it go people. Move on. Nothing more to see here.
No way. We need at least a dozen more threads rehashing this before we can move on.
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yanks_178 4/30/2015 7:32pm
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Maybe we should riot.. get Al Sharpton in and burn down all the Stadiums and scorers towers.. that will teach them for sure!!
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What would be the benefit? Whoever "they" are that anyone thinks "could", ask yourself, what possible benefit may be derived, decided to be beneficial, despite the...
What would be the benefit?

Whoever "they" are that anyone thinks "could", ask yourself, what possible benefit may be derived, decided to be beneficial, despite the risk of massive litigation...

This is not WADA or CAS or FIM's first go around with this, nor is James the biggest athlete to have been pinged, and WADA's reach is global, CAS say final and everyone who you may think could, would not possibly risk their respective empires so James can race a few motos over the next 4 months.
Are you saying he couldn't even ride an impromptu "beer can scrambles" at some local track with a winner take all pot-o-cash.?
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kiwifan 4/30/2015 8:43pm
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Maybe he could race at REM, according to MXA its the place to be
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OW38B 4/30/2015 9:14pm
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burn1986 wrote:
Bad post
OW38B wrote:
Burn You are are holding on too tight and cannot focus. We are on the support JBS team and think the whole drug thing is a...
Burn You are are holding on too tight and cannot focus.

We are on the support JBS team and think the whole drug thing is a fiasco.
burn1986 wrote:
I'm an ass. Sorry, I misread it. "The forest for the trees"
No worries boss.
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OW38B 4/30/2015 9:19pm
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downard254 wrote:
This is a done deal. Let it go people. Move on. Nothing more to see here.
The Rock wrote:
No way. We need at least a dozen more threads rehashing this before we can move on.

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burn1986 4/30/2015 10:26pm
4/30/2015 10:26pm Edited Date/Time 4/30/2015 10:40pm
And then the morans came out. I'm just sayin, dude. Do you think I'm his accountant? its nice that the gay heroin user showed up. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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kiwifan 4/30/2015 11:25pm
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gee calm down perhaps he saw the JS7 reality show and saw what house and toys he owns.... ???
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kiwifan 4/30/2015 11:49pm
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read into his and my statement what you like, fact is James HAS spent a lot of money on houses and toys so therefore is a perfectly valid assumption ..but clearly you know better
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kiwifan 5/1/2015 12:30am
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ffs you sir are a complete and utter dickhead...
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BobbyM wrote:
Are you saying he couldn't even ride an impromptu "beer can scrambles" at some local track with a winner take all pot-o-cash.?
My understanding is once you're banned, it's from any event which has a tie to any governing body that is a signatory. So no AMA, no MA(Australia), no CMA(Canada, though I think the nationals are the "other" one?), no GPs obviously... But further to that he can't go ride a bicycle race at a club if it's attached to the national bicycle league people and they're signed to UCI or whoever they are... It's a sports ban. If James was fast enough to run in the for the USA right now, he couldn't. Half the reason I don't get why people thought it was gonna disappear, it's some serious people's rules that were broke.
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kiwifan 5/1/2015 3:39am
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Calling me stupid? wow...pot kettle black there dude
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jsmx97 5/1/2015 4:06am
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as you say, you are completely clueless.
Dont be that guy Phillip...
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jsmx97 5/1/2015 4:06am
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Thanks for the insight from the people who took it seriously.
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philG 5/1/2015 4:24am
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as you say, you are completely clueless.
jsmx97 wrote:
Dont be that guy Phillip...
Sorry but this has been done to death, and the whole point of a World governing body is that it is just that... the world .

Its why its a world Championship, with a level playing field .... same rules apply everywhere, that way you can compare apples with apples all over.

The only people who have the authority to let him ride are the people that are stopping him.

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burn1986 5/1/2015 5:15am
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Wth? Oh maybe you can enlighten us genius. You seem to be the man with all the knowledge so spit it out.
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Roger decoster could but thats not going to happenSmile
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The Rock 5/1/2015 6:49am
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Can we start suspending Vital MX members who continue to flog this dead horse? This is almost as bad as the one loon who posts about chest protectors frequently.

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