JS7 Appeal, FIM Extension

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davistld01 3/14/2015 1:27pm
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I've seen this purely as the FIM jacking with Stewart as an example right from the start. The FIM is butt hurt & tired of being thought of as powerless, so they're flexing their muscles and showing that they can damned well do anything they please no matter what. And, who else better to exhibit their strength on than an icon of the sport.

I promise you, if James was a lesser known rider he would be racing right now. As it is, they know he's got plenty of money to pump into this thing and it's turned into a "principle" thing.
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Juss 3/14/2015 1:36pm
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When does the FIM contract end in SX?
RF Motorsports USA 3/14/2015 1:40pm
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The question comes up again...why do we need the FIM in American SX stay on your own side of the pond.
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bigborefan 3/14/2015 3:19pm
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Someone needs to write a book or make a nice documentary with pictures. I work in IT and we don't use this many acronyms. USADA, WADA, CAS, FIM, AMA, AMA Pro, etc.

To me it's pretty simple. The SX and MX folks brought in drug testing so our little ol sport can be cool and big and mainstream. Then the "top star" got popped and everyone threw a hissy fit. It is what it is. Welcome to the "big time".

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rocketsocks26 3/14/2015 3:31pm
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I 100% believe that the FIM purposely is fucking #7 over so people pay more attention to the gps. No doubt.
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jamma10 3/14/2015 3:54pm
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rocketsocks26 wrote:
I 100% believe that the FIM purposely is fucking #7 over so people pay more attention to the gps. No doubt.
Stop thinking Guiseppe Luongo when you think of the FIM. Luongo runs Youthstream.
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DonM 3/14/2015 3:56pm
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His appeal will be heard March 31st
TripleFive 3/14/2015 5:31pm
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Matt Fisher wrote:
While I get your point, I don't think that's the case. As far as I can tell, the FIM neutered themselves by handing all the power...
While I get your point, I don't think that's the case. As far as I can tell, the FIM neutered themselves by handing all the power over to WADA, under contract.
Flex wrote:
WADA Cleared JS7 to race this year. FIM decided to penalize him any ways...
DonM wrote:
Yeah ok....all they did was approve his TUE after he was suspended(for after his suspension is served)...he was never cleared to race...
I don't think people understand the difference between those two things.

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rocketsocks26 wrote:
I 100% believe that the FIM purposely is fucking #7 over so people pay more attention to the gps. No doubt.
jamma10 wrote:
Stop thinking Guiseppe Luongo when you think of the FIM. Luongo runs Youthstream.
And you should stop thinking that Luongo isn't involved.
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DownSouth 3/14/2015 5:49pm
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rocketsocks26 wrote:
I 100% believe that the FIM purposely is fucking #7 over so people pay more attention to the gps. No doubt.
jamma10 wrote:
Stop thinking Guiseppe Luongo when you think of the FIM. Luongo runs Youthstream.
500guy wrote:
And you should stop thinking that Luongo isn't involved.
Wolfgang Srb and Luongo have been in bed together for years Lots of dirty dealing going on with FIM people making money with YS.
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jamma10 wrote:
Stop thinking Guiseppe Luongo when you think of the FIM. Luongo runs Youthstream.
500guy wrote:
And you should stop thinking that Luongo isn't involved.
DownSouth wrote:
Wolfgang Srb and Luongo have been in bed together for years Lots of dirty dealing going on with FIM people making money with YS.
Absolutely.
StartedTooLate 3/14/2015 6:02pm
3/14/2015 6:02pm
turbotime wrote:
If James was sponsored by Monster Energy he would currently be racing.

Don't kid yourselves.
Matt Fisher wrote:
While I get your point, I don't think that's the case. As far as I can tell, the FIM neutered themselves by handing all the power...
While I get your point, I don't think that's the case. As far as I can tell, the FIM neutered themselves by handing all the power over to WADA, under contract.
Flex wrote:
WADA Cleared JS7 to race this year. FIM decided to penalize him any ways...
Wrong. WADA granted him a TUE. That whole process is 100% separate from the issue of sanctions/pentalties. The TUE does not "clear him to race" despite what James claimed in his interview. It means that WHEN he races, he can use his prescribed meds as they have been judged medically NECESSARY. The issue of penalties is 100% separate.
dirty cant 3/14/2015 6:15pm
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SX went with FIM to give the series some international and exclusitivity status. The ban on JS7 is all BS just like the CR222 black flag thing.

JS7 is welcome to race the MX championship series in Australia if he is available. It starts in 2 weeks and the good thing is all races will be streamed live FREE just the way all MX SX should be. Also Chad should get a replacement for the rest of the SX races and come and do the series on oz as well to get dialed in early for the AMA MX when it starts.
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500guy 3/14/2015 6:19pm
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dirty cant wrote:
SX went with FIM to give the series some international and exclusitivity status. The ban on JS7 is all BS just like the CR222 black flag...
SX went with FIM to give the series some international and exclusitivity status. The ban on JS7 is all BS just like the CR222 black flag thing.

JS7 is welcome to race the MX championship series in Australia if he is available. It starts in 2 weeks and the good thing is all races will be streamed live FREE just the way all MX SX should be. Also Chad should get a replacement for the rest of the SX races and come and do the series on oz as well to get dialed in early for the AMA MX when it starts.
No

Supercross went with the FIM in a pissing contest between AMA/Jam Sports and Feld , Had nothing to do with adding credibility to anything.
dirty cant 3/14/2015 6:28pm
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None of them have any credibility, fuck them all.

JS7 COME AND RACE IN AUSTRALIA!!!!!

YOU ARE WELCOME!
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Flex wrote:
WADA Cleared JS7 to race this year. FIM decided to penalize him any ways...
DonM wrote:
Yeah ok....all they did was approve his TUE after he was suspended(for after his suspension is served)...he was never cleared to race...
TripleFive wrote:
I don't think people understand the difference between those two things.

Reading threads on this topic, I don't think people understand a lot of things.
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Steve 396 3/14/2015 7:50pm
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Probably right that a lot of folks don't understand but what almost everyone DOES understand is that the penalty does not fit the crime. No way around that. Punishment was warrantied but it wasn't what is should be.

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StartedTooLate 3/14/2015 10:16pm
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
Must have just been scheduled; not on the last schedule

http://www.tas-cas.org/en/general-information/news-detail/article/cas-hearings-2.html
DonM wrote:
pulpmx: We talked to Mike Webb at Yosh Suzuki, JS7's appeal to be heard in Europe March 31st..maybe he's back early?
Zero chance.
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newmann 3/14/2015 10:43pm
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If Stewart needs some help coming up with some scratch for an attorney, I may be in the market for a nice 69 Camaro.
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Mit12 3/15/2015 12:20am
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Ignorance, blame the people who inforce the rules not the person who violated them??????? If you cant do the time dont do the crime. Even Stewart is not above the rules.
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jamma10 3/15/2015 1:34am
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500guy wrote:
And you should stop thinking that Luongo isn't involved.
DownSouth wrote:
Wolfgang Srb and Luongo have been in bed together for years Lots of dirty dealing going on with FIM people making money with YS.
kongols wrote:
Absolutely.
You guys are too cynical.

I think some of you want to believe they influenced the decision, simply to justify the length of the ban. Even though the punishment is comparable to other cases, in different forms of motorcycle racing. I just don't see how it would be at all beneficial to take Stewart out of competition unless there was very good reason for doing so - ie a lenient penalty extended on appeal.

You've got a feeling though right?
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Xavier 3/15/2015 2:46am
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DownSouth wrote:
Wolfgang Srb and Luongo have been in bed together for years Lots of dirty dealing going on with FIM people making money with YS.
kongols wrote:
Absolutely.
jamma10 wrote:
You guys are too cynical. I think some of you [i]want[/i] to believe they influenced the decision, simply to justify the length of the ban. Even...
You guys are too cynical.

I think some of you want to believe they influenced the decision, simply to justify the length of the ban. Even though the punishment is comparable to other cases, in different forms of motorcycle racing. I just don't see how it would be at all beneficial to take Stewart out of competition unless there was very good reason for doing so - ie a lenient penalty extended on appeal.

You've got a feeling though right?
Regardless, Srb is no longer in power at the FIM MX commission (although he was all over the map and photos in Qatar, for whatever reason)...
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FIREfish148 3/15/2015 3:19am
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FIREfish148 wrote:
FREE BUBBA! We're being punished just as much as him I feel.
Zracer wrote:
Rofl, no sense of entitlement from this guy.
You're right man, I should get off my high horse... You have anything positive to say about bubba though?
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Robgvx 3/15/2015 4:52am
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kongols wrote:
Absolutely.
jamma10 wrote:
You guys are too cynical. I think some of you [i]want[/i] to believe they influenced the decision, simply to justify the length of the ban. Even...
You guys are too cynical.

I think some of you want to believe they influenced the decision, simply to justify the length of the ban. Even though the punishment is comparable to other cases, in different forms of motorcycle racing. I just don't see how it would be at all beneficial to take Stewart out of competition unless there was very good reason for doing so - ie a lenient penalty extended on appeal.

You've got a feeling though right?
Xavier wrote:
Regardless, Srb is no longer in power at the FIM MX commission (although he was all over the map and photos in Qatar, for whatever reason)...
I don't think he's really gone away. Do you Xavier?
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Moto75 3/15/2015 7:07am
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DownSouth wrote:
Wolfgang Srb and Luongo have been in bed together for years Lots of dirty dealing going on with FIM people making money with YS.
kongols wrote:
Absolutely.
jamma10 wrote:
You guys are too cynical. I think some of you [i]want[/i] to believe they influenced the decision, simply to justify the length of the ban. Even...
You guys are too cynical.

I think some of you want to believe they influenced the decision, simply to justify the length of the ban. Even though the punishment is comparable to other cases, in different forms of motorcycle racing. I just don't see how it would be at all beneficial to take Stewart out of competition unless there was very good reason for doing so - ie a lenient penalty extended on appeal.

You've got a feeling though right?
From a skeptical point of view: FIM already has their claws in American SX. Get one of the biggest draws from America to race in Europe. Suspend one of Americas biggest names in SX. Strengthen one series, cripple another & increase their grip for global sanctioning.
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kongols wrote:
Absolutely.
jamma10 wrote:
You guys are too cynical. I think some of you [i]want[/i] to believe they influenced the decision, simply to justify the length of the ban. Even...
You guys are too cynical.

I think some of you want to believe they influenced the decision, simply to justify the length of the ban. Even though the punishment is comparable to other cases, in different forms of motorcycle racing. I just don't see how it would be at all beneficial to take Stewart out of competition unless there was very good reason for doing so - ie a lenient penalty extended on appeal.

You've got a feeling though right?
Moto75 wrote:
From a skeptical point of view: FIM already has their claws in American SX. Get one of the biggest draws from America to race in Europe...
From a skeptical point of view: FIM already has their claws in American SX. Get one of the biggest draws from America to race in Europe. Suspend one of Americas biggest names in SX. Strengthen one series, cripple another & increase their grip for global sanctioning.
I actually believe this is what might be going on. And no, I don't believe in UFO's or ghost's.
Jef Pizza 3/15/2015 8:24am
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There seem to be many lawyers in this place. Or screenwriters. Whistling
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Okay Kids....

Even if you don't agree with them.... "Don't break the rules". And if you don't understand the rules, have someone with comprehension skills (someone not stupid) read them for you.

If you don't get this simple concept, look up "Lance Armstrong", or, "Pete Rose", as learning tools.

Don't blame the cops, for arresting the shop lifter.

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