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Crossup wrote:
Great race for the top three guys. Glad to see Cairoli do much better in moto 2. Desalle was really consistent, but I wasn't happy about...
Great race for the top three guys. Glad to see Cairoli do much better in moto 2. Desalle was really consistent, but I wasn't happy about Desalle's driving RV out to the banking twice on the starts. RV killed it in moto 1 and settled in moto 2.


All I know is that I am digging the hell out of those monster podium chicks "uniforms" !! Congrats to RV
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So finally it's the end of Cairoli so call "status". After so many years sitting comfortably in Europe saying in every interview "Americans are not better"...
So finally it's the end of Cairoli so call "status". After so many years sitting comfortably in Europe saying in every interview "Americans are not better"
Good bye Antonio!
They aren't.
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3/8/2015 12:13pm
Sidecar wrote:
That's why supercross has only ever been a winter sideshow in Europe, once the GPs kick off nothing else matters, welcome aboard ; )
philG wrote:
Bingo.. something to pass the time till the proper racing starts.
Juss wrote:
If JS and RV were racing SX know one would give a fuck about watching these GPs!
Jeezus dude, who spells the word no wrong?
3/8/2015 12:22pm
philG wrote:
Bingo.. something to pass the time till the proper racing starts.
Juss wrote:
If JS and RV were racing SX know one would give a fuck about watching these GPs!
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Jeezus dude, who spells the word no wrong?
No one spells know one except Bakersfield inhabitants, I no that.Give him a break.

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burn1986 wrote:
Obviously the starts were critical. For some reason it seems incredibly hard to work up through the field in these GPs
TOSH25 wrote:
its called strength in depth....top 15 are all very fast!!
Not trying to stir shit here but didn't RV lap inside top 15 in the first moto? Caroli may have as well but they didn't make mention of it in the broadcast.
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The following is just my opinion, so just take it for what it's worth.

Villopoto came out to prove a point. He pulled the trigger in the qualifier and in moto 1. In moto 2, Desalle and Cairoli fired back. That to me says a lot. They took the shot from Villopoto and returned fire. That's rare, and only Dungey has ever been able to do that, and he only did it a couple times. That big win by Cairoli was huge for the overall picture. It made a statement to Villopoto that even when Villopoto seems far superior on a given day, Cairoli can step it up. That being said, I do believe that Villopoto is still settling in and getting acclimated to things. After the 5th round, I think it'll be game on between Villopoto and Cairoli, and they will start separating themselves from the other contenders, who are obviously amazing riders as well.
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Hey fast Willy you dickhead where's the spoiler ALERT!!!

DON'T PUT RESULTS IN THE TOPIC LINE!

Are you new to the interwebz? Angry
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The following is just my opinion, so just take it for what it's worth. Villopoto came out to prove a point. He pulled the trigger in...
The following is just my opinion, so just take it for what it's worth.

Villopoto came out to prove a point. He pulled the trigger in the qualifier and in moto 1. In moto 2, Desalle and Cairoli fired back. That to me says a lot. They took the shot from Villopoto and returned fire. That's rare, and only Dungey has ever been able to do that, and he only did it a couple times. That big win by Cairoli was huge for the overall picture. It made a statement to Villopoto that even when Villopoto seems far superior on a given day, Cairoli can step it up. That being said, I do believe that Villopoto is still settling in and getting acclimated to things. After the 5th round, I think it'll be game on between Villopoto and Cairoli, and they will start separating themselves from the other contenders, who are obviously amazing riders as well.
Apart from the last sentence , i think you nailed it.... i still think Desalle and Paulin have a lot to say about the way this will go, as well as Nagl, and Van Hoorebeek ... it wont be a 2 horse race.
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TDeath21 wrote:
The following is just my opinion, so just take it for what it's worth. Villopoto came out to prove a point. He pulled the trigger in...
The following is just my opinion, so just take it for what it's worth.

Villopoto came out to prove a point. He pulled the trigger in the qualifier and in moto 1. In moto 2, Desalle and Cairoli fired back. That to me says a lot. They took the shot from Villopoto and returned fire. That's rare, and only Dungey has ever been able to do that, and he only did it a couple times. That big win by Cairoli was huge for the overall picture. It made a statement to Villopoto that even when Villopoto seems far superior on a given day, Cairoli can step it up. That being said, I do believe that Villopoto is still settling in and getting acclimated to things. After the 5th round, I think it'll be game on between Villopoto and Cairoli, and they will start separating themselves from the other contenders, who are obviously amazing riders as well.
Or, since we are speculating, RV got to Third, realized its 90 degrees and 10000% humidity, and that it's a long season, and rather than push to hard and risk a crash he rode around in third because he knew he had the overall wrapped up?

RV was not just faster all weekend he was WAY faster...that didn't chamge for Moto 2...he wanted the overall (his first in MXGP) and did what he had to do to comfortably wrap it up. End of story...RV won the overall which is what they all showed up to do.
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I think RV realized the overall was in hand and didnt want to throw it away by pushing excessively......But to each his own.
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Yea have known better and actually I do but when I went to watch it minutes ago and it showed Qatar I wanted to see what the fuck if anyone else had issues and sure enough fast Willie ruined my day... lol
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TDeath21 wrote:
The following is just my opinion, so just take it for what it's worth. Villopoto came out to prove a point. He pulled the trigger in...
The following is just my opinion, so just take it for what it's worth.

Villopoto came out to prove a point. He pulled the trigger in the qualifier and in moto 1. In moto 2, Desalle and Cairoli fired back. That to me says a lot. They took the shot from Villopoto and returned fire. That's rare, and only Dungey has ever been able to do that, and he only did it a couple times. That big win by Cairoli was huge for the overall picture. It made a statement to Villopoto that even when Villopoto seems far superior on a given day, Cairoli can step it up. That being said, I do believe that Villopoto is still settling in and getting acclimated to things. After the 5th round, I think it'll be game on between Villopoto and Cairoli, and they will start separating themselves from the other contenders, who are obviously amazing riders as well.
Titan1 wrote:
Or, since we are speculating, RV got to Third, realized its 90 degrees and 10000% humidity, and that it's a long season, and rather than push...
Or, since we are speculating, RV got to Third, realized its 90 degrees and 10000% humidity, and that it's a long season, and rather than push to hard and risk a crash he rode around in third because he knew he had the overall wrapped up?

RV was not just faster all weekend he was WAY faster...that didn't chamge for Moto 2...he wanted the overall (his first in MXGP) and did what he had to do to comfortably wrap it up. End of story...RV won the overall which is what they all showed up to do.
He didnt sound like he did that in the post race interview... you dont get that close that early and settle , not on lap 3.. from 4 seconds back... TDeath has it spot on... RV would have done anything to go 1-1

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TDeath21 wrote:
The following is just my opinion, so just take it for what it's worth. Villopoto came out to prove a point. He pulled the trigger in...
The following is just my opinion, so just take it for what it's worth.

Villopoto came out to prove a point. He pulled the trigger in the qualifier and in moto 1. In moto 2, Desalle and Cairoli fired back. That to me says a lot. They took the shot from Villopoto and returned fire. That's rare, and only Dungey has ever been able to do that, and he only did it a couple times. That big win by Cairoli was huge for the overall picture. It made a statement to Villopoto that even when Villopoto seems far superior on a given day, Cairoli can step it up. That being said, I do believe that Villopoto is still settling in and getting acclimated to things. After the 5th round, I think it'll be game on between Villopoto and Cairoli, and they will start separating themselves from the other contenders, who are obviously amazing riders as well.
I also thought that. Looks great for the series that after RV wins in a dominant fashion, Cairoli hits back immediately in the same way. Like you say not many have been able to do that to Villopoto.

I'm not buying that RV settled for the overall as soon as he got into 3rd. He was only a couple of seconds down with plenty of time left. He had been faster all weekend so surely he would try and go 1-1 and claw even more points back.
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G-man wrote:
Hey fast Willy you dickhead where's the spoiler ALERT!!!

DON'T PUT RESULTS IN THE TOPIC LINE!

Are you new to the interwebz? Angry
That's why I avoided this place until this morning.
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where is that a jab... settling for third at half distance for the overall.. fair enough , but up till then Desalle was close enough to AC to be able to have a run at him and take the win ... he didnt settle , he pushed and couldnt get there , then he backed off.
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RY4N37 wrote:
I also thought that. Looks great for the series that after RV wins in a dominant fashion, Cairoli hits back immediately in the same way. Like...
I also thought that. Looks great for the series that after RV wins in a dominant fashion, Cairoli hits back immediately in the same way. Like you say not many have been able to do that to Villopoto.

I'm not buying that RV settled for the overall as soon as he got into 3rd. He was only a couple of seconds down with plenty of time left. He had been faster all weekend so surely he would try and go 1-1 and claw even more points back.
For whatever reason he obviously didn't have it in moto 2.. me thinks he'll have it very soon, he's making progress constantly it appears.

He's still on the top step in his second GP ever against a healthy field. That is remarkable to say the least, imo.
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3/8/2015 1:23pm Edited Date/Time 3/8/2015 1:25pm
TDeath21 wrote:
The following is just my opinion, so just take it for what it's worth. Villopoto came out to prove a point. He pulled the trigger in...
The following is just my opinion, so just take it for what it's worth.

Villopoto came out to prove a point. He pulled the trigger in the qualifier and in moto 1. In moto 2, Desalle and Cairoli fired back. That to me says a lot. They took the shot from Villopoto and returned fire. That's rare, and only Dungey has ever been able to do that, and he only did it a couple times. That big win by Cairoli was huge for the overall picture. It made a statement to Villopoto that even when Villopoto seems far superior on a given day, Cairoli can step it up. That being said, I do believe that Villopoto is still settling in and getting acclimated to things. After the 5th round, I think it'll be game on between Villopoto and Cairoli, and they will start separating themselves from the other contenders, who are obviously amazing riders as well.
Titan1 wrote:
Or, since we are speculating, RV got to Third, realized its 90 degrees and 10000% humidity, and that it's a long season, and rather than push...
Or, since we are speculating, RV got to Third, realized its 90 degrees and 10000% humidity, and that it's a long season, and rather than push to hard and risk a crash he rode around in third because he knew he had the overall wrapped up?

RV was not just faster all weekend he was WAY faster...that didn't chamge for Moto 2...he wanted the overall (his first in MXGP) and did what he had to do to comfortably wrap it up. End of story...RV won the overall which is what they all showed up to do.
philG wrote:
He didnt sound like he did that in the post race interview... you dont get that close that early and settle , not on lap 3...
He didnt sound like he did that in the post race interview... you dont get that close that early and settle , not on lap 3.. from 4 seconds back... TDeath has it spot on... RV would have done anything to go 1-1

"he didn't sound like" "he would have done anything to go 1-1" These again are your feelings talking, not facts. RV one the race, end of story.
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That's why supercross has only ever been a winter sideshow in Europe, once the GPs kick off nothing else matters, welcome aboard ; )
philG wrote:
Bingo.. something to pass the time till the proper racing starts.
Juss wrote:
If JS and RV were racing SX know one would give a fuck about watching these GPs!
I hate to have to agree, but it's true.
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RY4N37 wrote:
I also thought that. Looks great for the series that after RV wins in a dominant fashion, Cairoli hits back immediately in the same way. Like...
I also thought that. Looks great for the series that after RV wins in a dominant fashion, Cairoli hits back immediately in the same way. Like you say not many have been able to do that to Villopoto.

I'm not buying that RV settled for the overall as soon as he got into 3rd. He was only a couple of seconds down with plenty of time left. He had been faster all weekend so surely he would try and go 1-1 and claw even more points back.
Outsider wrote:
For whatever reason he obviously didn't have it in moto 2.. me thinks he'll have it very soon, he's making progress constantly it appears. He's still...
For whatever reason he obviously didn't have it in moto 2.. me thinks he'll have it very soon, he's making progress constantly it appears.

He's still on the top step in his second GP ever against a healthy field. That is remarkable to say the least, imo.
It's good for him to get a GP win early in the season. I'm not surprised, it's not like he's a no-one coming over here. Conditions suited him this weekend and he rode great for the overall. It's good for the championship that he gained points back this weekend, and it's good for the championship that guys like AC and Desalle showed that they have something for him even on a track like that
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TDeath21 wrote:
The following is just my opinion, so just take it for what it's worth. Villopoto came out to prove a point. He pulled the trigger in...
The following is just my opinion, so just take it for what it's worth.

Villopoto came out to prove a point. He pulled the trigger in the qualifier and in moto 1. In moto 2, Desalle and Cairoli fired back. That to me says a lot. They took the shot from Villopoto and returned fire. That's rare, and only Dungey has ever been able to do that, and he only did it a couple times. That big win by Cairoli was huge for the overall picture. It made a statement to Villopoto that even when Villopoto seems far superior on a given day, Cairoli can step it up. That being said, I do believe that Villopoto is still settling in and getting acclimated to things. After the 5th round, I think it'll be game on between Villopoto and Cairoli, and they will start separating themselves from the other contenders, who are obviously amazing riders as well.
Titan1 wrote:
Or, since we are speculating, RV got to Third, realized its 90 degrees and 10000% humidity, and that it's a long season, and rather than push...
Or, since we are speculating, RV got to Third, realized its 90 degrees and 10000% humidity, and that it's a long season, and rather than push to hard and risk a crash he rode around in third because he knew he had the overall wrapped up?

RV was not just faster all weekend he was WAY faster...that didn't chamge for Moto 2...he wanted the overall (his first in MXGP) and did what he had to do to comfortably wrap it up. End of story...RV won the overall which is what they all showed up to do.
No need to speculate, he clearly said he didn't have anything for Desalle and Cairoli in the second race...

RV Press Conference

Whether or not that was just gamesmanship, who knows? But more than one person have said he looked pretty shattered after the race.
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TDeath21 wrote:
The following is just my opinion, so just take it for what it's worth. Villopoto came out to prove a point. He pulled the trigger in...
The following is just my opinion, so just take it for what it's worth.

Villopoto came out to prove a point. He pulled the trigger in the qualifier and in moto 1. In moto 2, Desalle and Cairoli fired back. That to me says a lot. They took the shot from Villopoto and returned fire. That's rare, and only Dungey has ever been able to do that, and he only did it a couple times. That big win by Cairoli was huge for the overall picture. It made a statement to Villopoto that even when Villopoto seems far superior on a given day, Cairoli can step it up. That being said, I do believe that Villopoto is still settling in and getting acclimated to things. After the 5th round, I think it'll be game on between Villopoto and Cairoli, and they will start separating themselves from the other contenders, who are obviously amazing riders as well.
Titan1 wrote:
Or, since we are speculating, RV got to Third, realized its 90 degrees and 10000% humidity, and that it's a long season, and rather than push...
Or, since we are speculating, RV got to Third, realized its 90 degrees and 10000% humidity, and that it's a long season, and rather than push to hard and risk a crash he rode around in third because he knew he had the overall wrapped up?

RV was not just faster all weekend he was WAY faster...that didn't chamge for Moto 2...he wanted the overall (his first in MXGP) and did what he had to do to comfortably wrap it up. End of story...RV won the overall which is what they all showed up to do.
jamma10 wrote:
No need to speculate, he clearly said he didn't have anything for Desalle and Cairoli in the second race... [url=http://www.mxlarge.com/2015/03/08/ryan-villopoto-interview-winner/]RV Press Conference[/url] Whether or not that...
No need to speculate, he clearly said he didn't have anything for Desalle and Cairoli in the second race...

RV Press Conference

Whether or not that was just gamesmanship, who knows? But more than one person have said he looked pretty shattered after the race.
yes… yes… The "shattered" winner. LOL!!!
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This is gonna be an awesome series.
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Agree. It'll be an amazing series. It's only round 2 and Villo's only nine back on Cairoli. Also, it's like Supercross didn't even happen last night...
Agree. It'll be an amazing series. It's only round 2 and Villo's only nine back on Cairoli.

Also, it's like Supercross didn't even happen last night! The race thread got ~14,000 views and the Thailand GP qualifying race thread got 50,000+ views.
Everyone in the U.S wants to see villo dominate and everyone oversees wants to see Villo get crushed so everyone is watching lol I don't think I've ever even read a article on a gp race. Hell I've never even seen a video of AC riding nothing personal I just never cared about the gp's but this year I'm watching! I'm sure trees a lot of others in the same boat
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Oh he was "shattered"... and WON!

Imagine what the 8-time MXGP champion felt by his shortened moto win and overall loss? Suicidal?
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Titan1 wrote:
Or, since we are speculating, RV got to Third, realized its 90 degrees and 10000% humidity, and that it's a long season, and rather than push...
Or, since we are speculating, RV got to Third, realized its 90 degrees and 10000% humidity, and that it's a long season, and rather than push to hard and risk a crash he rode around in third because he knew he had the overall wrapped up?

RV was not just faster all weekend he was WAY faster...that didn't chamge for Moto 2...he wanted the overall (his first in MXGP) and did what he had to do to comfortably wrap it up. End of story...RV won the overall which is what they all showed up to do.
jamma10 wrote:
No need to speculate, he clearly said he didn't have anything for Desalle and Cairoli in the second race... [url=http://www.mxlarge.com/2015/03/08/ryan-villopoto-interview-winner/]RV Press Conference[/url] Whether or not that...
No need to speculate, he clearly said he didn't have anything for Desalle and Cairoli in the second race...

RV Press Conference

Whether or not that was just gamesmanship, who knows? But more than one person have said he looked pretty shattered after the race.
yes… yes… The "shattered" winner. LOL!!!
As in physically.

There's nothing wrong with that either.
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roost wrote:
Oh he was "shattered"... and WON!

Imagine what the 8-time MXGP champion felt by his shortened moto win and overall loss? Suicidal?
Fuck off you chump
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jamma10 wrote:
No need to speculate, he clearly said he didn't have anything for Desalle and Cairoli in the second race... [url=http://www.mxlarge.com/2015/03/08/ryan-villopoto-interview-winner/]RV Press Conference[/url] Whether or not that...
No need to speculate, he clearly said he didn't have anything for Desalle and Cairoli in the second race...

RV Press Conference

Whether or not that was just gamesmanship, who knows? But more than one person have said he looked pretty shattered after the race.
look... just because he said it doesnt mean its true...
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roost wrote:
Oh he was "shattered"... and WON!

Imagine what the 8-time MXGP champion felt by his shortened moto win and overall loss? Suicidal?
so if it was a longer race you think RV would have won ????

3/8/2015 1:38pm
TDeath21 wrote:
The following is just my opinion, so just take it for what it's worth. Villopoto came out to prove a point. He pulled the trigger in...
The following is just my opinion, so just take it for what it's worth.

Villopoto came out to prove a point. He pulled the trigger in the qualifier and in moto 1. In moto 2, Desalle and Cairoli fired back. That to me says a lot. They took the shot from Villopoto and returned fire. That's rare, and only Dungey has ever been able to do that, and he only did it a couple times. That big win by Cairoli was huge for the overall picture. It made a statement to Villopoto that even when Villopoto seems far superior on a given day, Cairoli can step it up. That being said, I do believe that Villopoto is still settling in and getting acclimated to things. After the 5th round, I think it'll be game on between Villopoto and Cairoli, and they will start separating themselves from the other contenders, who are obviously amazing riders as well.
Very interesting post!
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Hey ..everyone looked like they had put a shift in ... 'shattered' means nothing more than that , like Herlings in the first moto , he gave it everything he had .. i would be more worried if he came in 3rd and looked like he could have done another 15 minutes... its not slagging him off , just stating fact.. Cairoli didnt look that fresh either.

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