AC news

Huckster
Profile picture for user Huckster
Posts
2585
Joined
8/15/2006
Location
Woodstock , NY US
Huckster 12/11/2014 11:25am
12/11/2014 11:25am
mccread wrote:
I feel sorry for the guy. His pro career has been full of hype but been a bit of a nightmare so far. I hope he...
I feel sorry for the guy. His pro career has been full of hype but been a bit of a nightmare so far. I hope he gets the shoulder sorted and can remain injury and crash free for the nationals and start to get some momentum in his pro career. Seems like he's trying to just win all the time and pushing too hard at times.

I guess when you are that confident and have been surrounded by the best people and dominated as a schoolboy you still have that mindset that you can win any race, any time. But maybe lowering the expectations when he comes back might help him take a fourth or fifth and allow him build a platform to win again on a consistent basis.
You are a classic!
Anthony Siracuse 12/11/2014 11:34am
12/11/2014 11:34am
TeamGreen wrote:
Don't know that Mitch needs to call anyone...
Needs? No. Should? Yes. Pourcel. Pourcel. Pourcel. Pourcel.
Kawaboy14
Profile picture for user Kawaboy14
Posts
672
Joined
9/9/2014
Location
Austin, TX US
Kawaboy14 12/11/2014 11:36am
12/11/2014 11:36am
Mitch Payton just kicked his dog and ran out back and slapped 2 mechanics!
mxpro252
Profile picture for user mxpro252
Posts
459
Joined
11/15/2013
Location
WA US
mxpro252 12/11/2014 11:37am
12/11/2014 11:37am
Kawaboy14 wrote:
Mitch Payton just kicked his dog and ran out back and slapped 2 mechanics!
I doubt Mitch kicked anything...

The Shop

See All »
Kawaboy14
Profile picture for user Kawaboy14
Posts
672
Joined
9/9/2014
Location
Austin, TX US
Kawaboy14 12/11/2014 11:41am
12/11/2014 11:41am
Kawaboy14 wrote:
Mitch Payton just kicked his dog and ran out back and slapped 2 mechanics!
mxpro252 wrote:
I doubt Mitch kicked anything...
.....that's the joke part of that line
MXD
Profile picture for user MXD
Posts
2709
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
MA US
MXD 12/11/2014 12:09pm
12/11/2014 12:09pm
Did Weimer point out? His most successful years were with PC.
GuyB
Profile picture for user GuyB
Posts
35722
Joined
7/10/2006
Location
Aliso Viejo, CA US
GuyB 12/11/2014 12:13pm
12/11/2014 12:13pm
Cole_Ughetti wrote:
mitch better pick up the phone and call pourcel
mx317 wrote:
yep
You guys know he can't race 250 SX, right?
GuyB
Profile picture for user GuyB
Posts
35722
Joined
7/10/2006
Location
Aliso Viejo, CA US
GuyB 12/11/2014 12:15pm
12/11/2014 12:15pm
Kawaboy14 wrote:
Mitch Payton just kicked his dog and ran out back and slapped 2 mechanics!
mxpro252 wrote:
I doubt Mitch kicked anything...
Kawaboy14 wrote:
.....that's the joke part of that line
So when do we get to the funny part, cause that shit ain't funny.
Hallzilla
Profile picture for user Hallzilla
Posts
937
Joined
1/21/2011
Location
Langtown, CA US
Hallzilla 12/11/2014 12:18pm
12/11/2014 12:18pm
Kawaboy14 wrote:
Mitch Payton just kicked his dog and ran out back and slapped 2 mechanics!
You're the one who needs to be kicked !
MT MX
Profile picture for user MT MX
Posts
1551
Joined
3/5/2011
Location
Great Falls, MT US
MT MX 12/11/2014 12:28pm
12/11/2014 12:28pm
I don't know what the ruling is (if there is one), but sweet talk Josh Hill and try to get him on the bike
Hallzilla
Profile picture for user Hallzilla
Posts
937
Joined
1/21/2011
Location
Langtown, CA US
Hallzilla 12/11/2014 12:59pm
12/11/2014 12:59pm
Ha !
tombugg
Profile picture for user tombugg
Posts
214
Joined
7/7/2008
Location
Peoria, AZ US
tombugg 12/11/2014 1:06pm
12/11/2014 1:06pm
Fuq,.. Fuq,... FUQ!!!!! Hate this side of the sport...
hammertime
Profile picture for user hammertime
Posts
1583
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
K Town CA
hammertime 12/11/2014 1:08pm
12/11/2014 1:08pm
This is beyond sad. There was nobody I was more excited to watch this year.
TeamGreen
Profile picture for user TeamGreen
Posts
36571
Joined
11/25/2008
Location
Thru-out, CA US
TeamGreen 12/11/2014 1:09pm
12/11/2014 1:09pm
Bowers can win the west.

Mitch doesn't need to call anyone.
Myke
Profile picture for user Myke
Posts
2500
Joined
9/28/2009
Location
San Diego, CA US
Myke 12/11/2014 1:11pm
12/11/2014 1:11pm
Bummer!
Kawaboy14
Profile picture for user Kawaboy14
Posts
672
Joined
9/9/2014
Location
Austin, TX US
Kawaboy14 12/11/2014 1:12pm
12/11/2014 1:12pm Edited Date/Time 12/11/2014 1:15pm
mxpro252 wrote:
I doubt Mitch kicked anything...
Kawaboy14 wrote:
.....that's the joke part of that line
GuyB wrote:
So when do we get to the funny part, cause that shit ain't funny.
Sorry!

Kawaboy14
Profile picture for user Kawaboy14
Posts
672
Joined
9/9/2014
Location
Austin, TX US
Kawaboy14 12/11/2014 1:21pm
12/11/2014 1:21pm
I'll try this again:

I bet Mitch is so mad, nobody will be in the building for the next 3 days!
Xracerdone
Profile picture for user Xracerdone
Posts
468
Joined
9/6/2014
Location
Denver, CO US
Xracerdone 12/11/2014 1:26pm
12/11/2014 1:26pm
Thelen20 wrote:
This sucks!!! If it is a shoulder dislocation issue again he is probably going to need a little more invasive proceedure. There comes a point where...
This sucks!!!

If it is a shoulder dislocation issue again he is probably going to need a little more invasive proceedure. There comes a point where it is no longer a soft tissue problem and becomes a bone problem.

Ask me how i know, i just had this done 14 months ago and i seem to be good as new but it was a long rehab.

https://youtu.be/wb_F4M8xUf0
Was that you I talked to in PM about the Laterjet? I am 3 weeks out of Laterjet, rotator & some other tendons fixed now. He said my labrum was nothing but scar tissue so apparently I do not have a labrum now. First 4 days SUCKED! 4th day being the worst, nothing would control the pain, I got a fever, was miserable, then woke up Sunday feeling a thousand times better & it's been rather easy since. Starting PT Monday, can't wait to get rid of this damn sling!

I can't help but think with how easy AC's shoulder was coming out before that he probably already had the Laterjet. Which makes me wonder just how bad it must hurt if I was to ever dislocate the shoulder I had Laterjet on? Wouldn't I be basically breaking bone & ripping screws out?

Pit Row

See All »
PClaerhout 12/11/2014 1:38pm
12/11/2014 1:38pm
Big fan of the kid, but it may have been better for him long term to race big bikes in amateurs for a year. Hope for a speedy recovery.
Spagina767
Profile picture for user Spagina767
Posts
912
Joined
8/27/2013
Location
Fredericksburg, VA US
Spagina767 12/11/2014 1:45pm
12/11/2014 1:45pm
GuyB gets the award for asking a question that he already knew the answer to, imagine that.

You think these guys would be saying Pourcel if they knew he was pointed out? Not everyone gets to know everything about MX like you, who makes a living knowing the sport.


And the "joke" about Mitch wasn't all that bad. Knowing the sarcastic intent behind it makes it funny. Most people I know in chairs (including my brother) are pretty damn light hearted... You gotta be in that situation, or else you wouldn't maintain a happy life.

My brother has CP, been in a chair for 22 years. I told him that joke and his ass off at that comment...
BAMX
Profile picture for user BAMX
Posts
2890
Joined
1/22/2012
Location
Fallbrook, CA US
BAMX 12/11/2014 1:50pm
12/11/2014 1:50pm
Spagina767 wrote:
GuyB gets the award for asking a question that he already knew the answer to, imagine that. You think these guys would be saying Pourcel if...
GuyB gets the award for asking a question that he already knew the answer to, imagine that.

You think these guys would be saying Pourcel if they knew he was pointed out? Not everyone gets to know everything about MX like you, who makes a living knowing the sport.


And the "joke" about Mitch wasn't all that bad. Knowing the sarcastic intent behind it makes it funny. Most people I know in chairs (including my brother) are pretty damn light hearted... You gotta be in that situation, or else you wouldn't maintain a happy life.

My brother has CP, been in a chair for 22 years. I told him that joke and his ass off at that comment...
My buddy Geoffe is the same way. His nickname is "the gimp" He refers to all of his stuff as gimp this or that. gimp bike, gimp ski etc..
Spagina767
Profile picture for user Spagina767
Posts
912
Joined
8/27/2013
Location
Fredericksburg, VA US
Spagina767 12/11/2014 2:01pm
12/11/2014 2:01pm
Spagina767 wrote:
GuyB gets the award for asking a question that he already knew the answer to, imagine that. You think these guys would be saying Pourcel if...
GuyB gets the award for asking a question that he already knew the answer to, imagine that.

You think these guys would be saying Pourcel if they knew he was pointed out? Not everyone gets to know everything about MX like you, who makes a living knowing the sport.


And the "joke" about Mitch wasn't all that bad. Knowing the sarcastic intent behind it makes it funny. Most people I know in chairs (including my brother) are pretty damn light hearted... You gotta be in that situation, or else you wouldn't maintain a happy life.

My brother has CP, been in a chair for 22 years. I told him that joke and his ass off at that comment...
BAMX wrote:
My buddy Geoffe is the same way. His nickname is "the gimp" He refers to all of his stuff as gimp this or that. gimp bike...
My buddy Geoffe is the same way. His nickname is "the gimp" He refers to all of his stuff as gimp this or that. gimp bike, gimp ski etc..
There's a scene in the first spider man move when a bomb goes off. It throws a guy out of a wheelchair, about 20 feet. My brother about pissed himself when he saw it.

I asked him why it was so funny and he told me "I always crash and get messed up in my wheelchair, so it's funny when it happens to someone else!".

Kid has the best attitude on the planet, never been sorry for himself or about his situation, not once. We call him "wheels".
EddieC
Profile picture for user EddieC
Posts
362
Joined
2/26/2012
Location
Temecula, CA US
EddieC 12/11/2014 2:45pm
12/11/2014 2:45pm
Not knowing the exact mechanism of injury I would ask first ask anyone with that knowledge if riders of the same skill level fell in the same manner would they have also suffered the same injury?

If the answer is NO, than I would say that the most common cause of an injury is the result of a previous injury.

If we strictly go by history and mentality of the both the riders and handlers I would say his shoulder was NOT ready to withstand the forces placed on it.

I dont know AC personally or have insight into his program but I do have what I feel is a substantial amount of experience in how MX/SX athletes approach post injury rehabilitation.

I can tell you with a high level of confidence if the shoulder he injured is the same one that he just had repaired for the second time he will not perform at the level he is expected to be at if he follows the same rehab program.

lostboy819
Profile picture for user lostboy819
Posts
12629
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Blk Forest , CO US
Fantasy
139th
lostboy819 12/11/2014 2:51pm
12/11/2014 2:51pm
mauidex wrote:
I know it can happen anytime anywhere but this might spark a new attitude on these "pointless" off season races.....
So what "pointless off season race" did this happen at ?
Gringoe
Profile picture for user Gringoe
Posts
1586
Joined
4/12/2014
Location
MP
Gringoe 12/11/2014 2:55pm
12/11/2014 2:55pm Edited Date/Time 12/11/2014 2:55pm
It wasn't pointless to Adam or he wouldn't of raced it
stewie94
Profile picture for user stewie94
Posts
4647
Joined
2/25/2013
Location
La Plata, MD US
stewie94 12/11/2014 3:20pm
12/11/2014 3:20pm
ima take the good with the bad , hes preparing for outdoors
davistld01
Profile picture for user davistld01
Posts
9200
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Springfield, MO US
davistld01 12/11/2014 4:24pm
12/11/2014 4:24pm
Again...somebody tell me the advantages of sending our top racers overseas to race off-season Euro SX's, except perhaps the money? There are so many pre-season injuries that careers can be ended in a race against riders they will never race against, and in races that don't make a damn bit of difference. Look at JB51's wreck in France. He was so lucky that he wasn't totally jacked up, as was Tomac for that matter. AC is fortunate as well, with just a fairly minor shoulder injury...but it's serious enough to keep him from racing the SX series here, and enough to flush tons of money and time invested by Adam, Pro Circuit and Kawasaki building him back into racing form from his last problem.

I know our sport is dangerous, and risky...but seems like somebody is going to have to die on the track before the top teams step back and rethink how important racing overseas is.

Just my 2-cents. Huh
machine
Profile picture for user machine
Posts
6404
Joined
1/5/2011
Location
Collettsville, NC US
machine 12/11/2014 4:28pm
12/11/2014 4:28pm
TeamGreen wrote:
Bowers can win the west.

Mitch doesn't need to call anyone.
Okaaaayyy...riiiiiggght
Grizz
Profile picture for user Grizz
Posts
3105
Joined
7/2/2012
Location
Los Angeles, CA US
Grizz 12/11/2014 4:36pm
12/11/2014 4:36pm
davistld01 wrote:
Again...somebody tell me the advantages of sending our top racers overseas to race off-season Euro SX's, except perhaps the money? There are so many pre-season injuries...
Again...somebody tell me the advantages of sending our top racers overseas to race off-season Euro SX's, except perhaps the money? There are so many pre-season injuries that careers can be ended in a race against riders they will never race against, and in races that don't make a damn bit of difference. Look at JB51's wreck in France. He was so lucky that he wasn't totally jacked up, as was Tomac for that matter. AC is fortunate as well, with just a fairly minor shoulder injury...but it's serious enough to keep him from racing the SX series here, and enough to flush tons of money and time invested by Adam, Pro Circuit and Kawasaki building him back into racing form from his last problem.

I know our sport is dangerous, and risky...but seems like somebody is going to have to die on the track before the top teams step back and rethink how important racing overseas is.

Just my 2-cents. Huh
You have to ride to be the best. Being on the bike at all is dangerous and can end your career at any second. That's part of the sport, doesn't matter where you ride or race.

Look at Jimmy Button. Dude was rolling through whoops. Hasn't raced a dirt bike since...

If anything I would argue that you get hurt much less by spending more time on the bike. If you didn't practice and then went balls out at the professional pace on race day, I'd reckon you find yourself in the hospital pretty quickly.

Post a reply to: AC news