Heres my question re: MCR / Alessi

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dirtnapper 7/15/2014 7:04pm
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Jeff alessi wrote:
You have to send out press about your rider and the good his hard works gotten him, my brother had a lead this weekend and had...
You have to send out press about your rider and the good his hard works gotten him, my brother had a lead this weekend and had an unfortunate gas problem with no more then a lap n a half to go and then pushed his bike in the sand to the mechanics area got fuel and finished his race and then came back moto 2 and won with a pit stop! What's the team suppose to say, mcr had a great weekend with an 8th overall... Ya that sounds good to the sponsors... I think if you guys stopped critiquing everything about our program that annoys you then maybe we could get some support but instead y'all keep talking about everything else that my brother doesn't control or do. I would be willing to bet if you guys worked your asses off as much as my brother has an got nothing but unbiased bashing all day 98% of you would quit and disappear from the community you guys have become but I'll tell you what not mike he sees what it's about to you guys, y'all want to talk talk talk to see a person quit and the harder he tries to more you guys try. You guys are chasing something that's evil to be after and all the while there's 10x worse things going on behind closed doors in the sport then some kid putting his heart and soul into something he loves and never gives up doing. Good job guys way to be a class act.
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It's a mob mentality in here Jeff, and it seems in this day and age that people just love to kick someone when they're down. Your...
It's a mob mentality in here Jeff, and it seems in this day and age that people just love to kick someone when they're down. Your brother is riding great this year and rather than comment on that, people would rather pick apart and criticize the little things that can detract from his success. He's above that and you should be too. Whether he wins this championship or not I think it's fair to say that he's proven he is the fastest rider in the series so far, and that speaks for itself. Keep your chin up and try to ignore the haters, I know it's not easy being that it's your family that they are bashing but they are only going to pick apart your defence and try to make you look bad.

Take the high road and good luck in Deschambeault Jeff, I think most of us wish to see you succeed and put the past behind you. Everyone loves a comeback story, keep the train on the tracks and let your riding do the talking.
Not one thing in my OP was "kicking someone when they are down...." No where did that happen. Mike and MCR are not down right now anyway, they are actually doing quite good ( although I am sure this seemingly cherry-picked Championship is a little harder than they thought it might be...... ).

I simply asked, compared to other top teams, why the MCR team ALWAYS have to toot their own horns when they have some success. Always.

And to Jeff - what sponsers does MCR have to sound good to? Where did I mention anything about wanting Mike to quit? What am I "chasing that's evil" in asking some questions about the team?

I honestly think NO ONE can deny the heart and soul Mike puts into his riding and racing. It would nice to see some of you other guys associated with him put some heart and soul into being a bit more professional and not continually starting bullshit drama...............
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dboivin 7/15/2014 7:18pm
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Not one thing in my OP was "kicking someone when they are down...." No where did that happen. Mike and MCR are not down right now...
Not one thing in my OP was "kicking someone when they are down...." No where did that happen. Mike and MCR are not down right now anyway, they are actually doing quite good ( although I am sure this seemingly cherry-picked Championship is a little harder than they thought it might be...... ).

I simply asked, compared to other top teams, why the MCR team ALWAYS have to toot their own horns when they have some success. Always.

And to Jeff - what sponsers does MCR have to sound good to? Where did I mention anything about wanting Mike to quit? What am I "chasing that's evil" in asking some questions about the team?

I honestly think NO ONE can deny the heart and soul Mike puts into his riding and racing. It would nice to see some of you other guys associated with him put some heart and soul into being a bit more professional and not continually starting bullshit drama...............
here, let me show jeff how he should answer this post.

"dirtnapper, thanks for your post, I appreciate all credit you are giving mike and the team, we will look into your other suggestions and I appreciate the input. best wishes, ~JA801


thats how you handleit.


now here is the answer you will most likely get.

"dirtnapper, everyone likes to say stuff about our family and never give us any credit for almost winning a moto. eat butthole."
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Lol Nice
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If anything, this thread lightened up my day and made me laugh out loud at work. After a shitty day at the office, I needed it. Thanks dudes!

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lostboy819 7/15/2014 9:16pm
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As a great American word smith once put it, "how's that butthole taste?".
I don't think Mark Twain or Ernest Hemingway could have written it any better.Whistling
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Jeff alessi wrote:
You have to send out press about your rider and the good his hard works gotten him, my brother had a lead this weekend and had...
You have to send out press about your rider and the good his hard works gotten him, my brother had a lead this weekend and had an unfortunate gas problem with no more then a lap n a half to go and then pushed his bike in the sand to the mechanics area got fuel and finished his race and then came back moto 2 and won with a pit stop! What's the team suppose to say, mcr had a great weekend with an 8th overall... Ya that sounds good to the sponsors... I think if you guys stopped critiquing everything about our program that annoys you then maybe we could get some support but instead y'all keep talking about everything else that my brother doesn't control or do. I would be willing to bet if you guys worked your asses off as much as my brother has an got nothing but unbiased bashing all day 98% of you would quit and disappear from the community you guys have become but I'll tell you what not mike he sees what it's about to you guys, y'all want to talk talk talk to see a person quit and the harder he tries to more you guys try. You guys are chasing something that's evil to be after and all the while there's 10x worse things going on behind closed doors in the sport then some kid putting his heart and soul into something he loves and never gives up doing. Good job guys way to be a class act.
hvaughn88 wrote:
I think I can speak for quite a few people when I say that I don't have a problem with your [i]brother[/i]. I really like Mike...
I think I can speak for quite a few people when I say that I don't have a problem with your brother. I really like Mike. Most of the issues people have come from things that have nothing to do with any actions your brother has made.
lostboy819 wrote:
100% true. I bet if Jeff and Tony would just GO AWAY so would 98% of Mikes problems. I will type this slow so even Jeff...
100% true. I bet if Jeff and Tony would just GO AWAY so would 98% of Mikes problems. I will type this slow so even Jeff can understand and if not, he can have someone read it to him. Jeff, you and your dad are the PROBLEM!! Mike does all the hard work and you two fuck it all up with your low class bullshit ! If you go away and take Tony with you I bet Mike could get one last shot at a factory ride before his career is over but noooooooooooooo you two degenerates what to steal the spotlight and while doing so have severely damaged Mikes career in the process after all what is family for ?
You are very confused. Mike has a factory level ride. His income, equipment, support from his team is at the highest level. Hence why mike is more happy where he's at then his rides with factory Suzuki and KTM. Hence why he is riding and performing better than ever.

One thing is for certain and that is this, uninformed, true knowledge lacking big mouths like you are impresses by a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Instead of focusing on Jeff's grammar maybe you should try to listen to a guy that's been there at the high level and learn a bit about pro Moto lieu of discrediting everything he is or writes.
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scooter5002 7/15/2014 10:22pm
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^ The comedy continues.
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malachi177 7/15/2014 10:28pm
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No_Bull wrote:
You are very confused. Mike has a factory level ride. His income, equipment, support from his team is at the highest level. Hence why mike is...
You are very confused. Mike has a factory level ride. His income, equipment, support from his team is at the highest level. Hence why mike is more happy where he's at then his rides with factory Suzuki and KTM. Hence why he is riding and performing better than ever.

One thing is for certain and that is this, uninformed, true knowledge lacking big mouths like you are impresses by a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Instead of focusing on Jeff's grammar maybe you should try to listen to a guy that's been there at the high level and learn a bit about pro Moto lieu of discrediting everything he is or writes.
This HAS to be MCR personnel or familyPinch
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scooter5002 7/15/2014 10:32pm
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Fuck, it's probably Tony. GuyB covered this in another thread malachi, it's definitely an "inside job".
2WheelsForTheMasses 7/15/2014 10:48pm
7/15/2014 10:48pm
hvaughn88 wrote:
I think I can speak for quite a few people when I say that I don't have a problem with your [i]brother[/i]. I really like Mike...
I think I can speak for quite a few people when I say that I don't have a problem with your brother. I really like Mike. Most of the issues people have come from things that have nothing to do with any actions your brother has made.
lostboy819 wrote:
100% true. I bet if Jeff and Tony would just GO AWAY so would 98% of Mikes problems. I will type this slow so even Jeff...
100% true. I bet if Jeff and Tony would just GO AWAY so would 98% of Mikes problems. I will type this slow so even Jeff can understand and if not, he can have someone read it to him. Jeff, you and your dad are the PROBLEM!! Mike does all the hard work and you two fuck it all up with your low class bullshit ! If you go away and take Tony with you I bet Mike could get one last shot at a factory ride before his career is over but noooooooooooooo you two degenerates what to steal the spotlight and while doing so have severely damaged Mikes career in the process after all what is family for ?
No_Bull wrote:
You are very confused. Mike has a factory level ride. His income, equipment, support from his team is at the highest level. Hence why mike is...
You are very confused. Mike has a factory level ride. His income, equipment, support from his team is at the highest level. Hence why mike is more happy where he's at then his rides with factory Suzuki and KTM. Hence why he is riding and performing better than ever.

One thing is for certain and that is this, uninformed, true knowledge lacking big mouths like you are impresses by a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Instead of focusing on Jeff's grammar maybe you should try to listen to a guy that's been there at the high level and learn a bit about pro Moto lieu of discrediting everything he is or writes.
Yeah, who the heck wants a Factory ride anyway~Right?

Factory ktm, Factory suzuki phssssh who needs em'
lostboy819 7/15/2014 11:10pm
7/15/2014 11:10pm Edited Date/Time 7/15/2014 11:34pm
No_Bull wrote:
You are very confused. Mike has a factory level ride. His income, equipment, support from his team is at the highest level. Hence why mike is...
You are very confused. Mike has a factory level ride. His income, equipment, support from his team is at the highest level. Hence why mike is more happy where he's at then his rides with factory Suzuki and KTM. Hence why he is riding and performing better than ever.

One thing is for certain and that is this, uninformed, true knowledge lacking big mouths like you are impresses by a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Instead of focusing on Jeff's grammar maybe you should try to listen to a guy that's been there at the high level and learn a bit about pro Moto lieu of discrediting everything he is or writes.
malachi177 wrote:
This HAS to be MCR personnel or familyPinch
Guy B pointed out "No_Bull" it is one of the jack offs at Leisure Concepts, seems they have multiple accounts on vital to try to offset the Tony and Jeff Alessi's bad press. To NO_Bull , Sorry but going to Canada is not the " highest level" and Mike is not the problem and I am glad Mike is happy and I hope he wins in Canada I just hope Tony and Jeff don't fuck it up for him.

Every thing Jeff writes gets discredited because he is a low rent dirt bag and being a former mid pack pro does not automatically give you good character or respect especially when he shows a pattern of degenerate behavior, for example Assault with a walmart rake, Shinning a laser in RVs eyes to try to alter the outcome of a professional MX race and the piss poor behavior in the pits after he got caught and the list goes on. Now before all the bleeding hearts who chalk it up to "childish mistakes" come on here making excuses for their behavior , he is not a child and neither is Tony and you are known by your reputation so they get what they deserve.
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scooter5002 7/15/2014 11:21pm
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Hey lost, why don't you get back to us, when you've figured out how you really feel about things. You know, to properly fill us in.
"low rent dirt bag" Lol.
lostboy819 7/15/2014 11:38pm
7/15/2014 11:38pm Edited Date/Time 7/15/2014 11:40pm
Anyone arrested for assault with a Walmart Rake is "low rent" and that is real close to "poor white or trailer park trash" Now if it would have been a Lowes or Home Depot rake that is a whole better class of assault ,at least it gives him something to aim for. Blush and by me posting this it will take some of the heat off you for a while as you seem to be as big of a fan as I am. hehe
scott_nz 7/15/2014 11:41pm
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No_Bull wrote:
You are very confused. Mike has a factory level ride. His income, equipment, support from his team is at the highest level. Hence why mike is...
You are very confused. Mike has a factory level ride. His income, equipment, support from his team is at the highest level. Hence why mike is more happy where he's at then his rides with factory Suzuki and KTM. Hence why he is riding and performing better than ever.

One thing is for certain and that is this, uninformed, true knowledge lacking big mouths like you are impresses by a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Instead of focusing on Jeff's grammar maybe you should try to listen to a guy that's been there at the high level and learn a bit about pro Moto lieu of discrediting everything he is or writes.
Mcr has a good setup , but it's no way a factory level setup, and Tony has admitted there are parts that he would have if he could get ,(from memory it was a factory gearbox, and ecu)

Mike did not have a lot of options when he went to MCR,Suzuki and ktm would not have him back and it was not results based, and the team manager of MCR left when it was announced mike and tony were coming aboard,

I think mike Genova has done a great job, and with apart for tony and jeffs stupidity,, the odd slip up on social media would probably fly under the radar, but without Jeff coming in here and providing entertainment for the vital faithful a lot of the other stuff on here would die off a lot quicker as well,
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scooter5002 7/15/2014 11:46pm
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Lol All I can say is, things could be done a whole lot differently, without the backlash that always ensues. I think it's kind of sad, really. Mike is a talented rider, but the antics that surround him overshadow his achievements. Realistically, it all comes back to the choice he has made. C'est la vie.
lostboy819 7/15/2014 11:49pm
7/15/2014 11:49pm
Did he ever say why he didn't race last week end ?
Crisp BRAAAP! 7/16/2014 3:40am
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scooter5002 wrote:
Fuck, it's probably Tony. GuyB covered this in another thread malachi, it's definitely an "inside job".
Not Tony, Scoot. You must not have seen his previous postings. Let's just say they were less than eloquent. For example, this employee used the word "hence" correctly twice and generally has decent sentence structure.

It's definitely not Tony.

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racerhansen 7/16/2014 4:18am
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Seamorbutts wrote:
Reminds me of a singer we once had. Made you think he was better than every other singer in the world, but in the real world...
Reminds me of a singer we once had. Made you think he was better than every other singer in the world, but in the real world he sucked balls..lol
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This guy? I just saw a hilarious thread on Chive about Kanye sayings. They're quite comical. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/07/15/59490/s1200_kanye.jpg[/img]
This guy? I just saw a hilarious thread on Chive about Kanye sayings. They're quite comical.



The Kanye West self confidence generator
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GrapeApe 7/16/2014 4:23am
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scooter5002 wrote:
Fuck, it's probably Tony. GuyB covered this in another thread malachi, it's definitely an "inside job".
Crisp BRAAAP! wrote:
Not Tony, Scoot. You must not have seen his previous postings. Let's just say they were less than eloquent. For example, this employee used the word...
Not Tony, Scoot. You must not have seen his previous postings. Let's just say they were less than eloquent. For example, this employee used the word "hence" correctly twice and generally has decent sentence structure.

It's definitely not Tony.
There's an interesting feature if you go into your user profile that allows you to search for other members either by user name or last name. Enter the last name "Genova" and it pulls up 3 accounts - MCR Boss, MCRacing, and No_Bull. Just saying.

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Uncle Tony 7/16/2014 6:01am
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Why don't you people just leave this family alone, they have done nothing to you, hey guyb send this to the dumbgeon please
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Uncle Tony wrote:
Why don't you people just leave this family alone, they have done nothing to you, hey guyb send this to the dumbgeon please
That's kinda the problem right there. It seems like people aren't allowed to criticize their team without them taking it as a personal attack on their family. That's just part of being involved in family-type business. Either be able to put up with the criticism or do something else. I hate to be that straight forward about it, but it just seems so obvious.
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Uncle Tony wrote:
Why don't you people just leave this family alone, they have done nothing to you, hey guyb send this to the dumbgeon please
"Look at me! Look at me! Look at me!..... Stop looking at me !!!! Waaaahhhh! "
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albacore26 7/16/2014 7:15am
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Dear Jeff, Tony and Mr Genova

I'm very interested in spending millions of my hard earned dollars on your very professionally run MX team. My only concern is that you don't get enough bad press and represent yourselves horribly in public, I feel if you would assault more people, threaten to bring down the sport you're involved in and constantly bitch about no respect I'd be more inclined to invest in your team. Please show me that you're going to be more dedicated to looking like fools and I'll gladly give you a blank check.

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brocster 7/16/2014 7:33am
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scooter5002 wrote:
Fuck, it's probably Tony. GuyB covered this in another thread malachi, it's definitely an "inside job".
Crisp BRAAAP! wrote:
Not Tony, Scoot. You must not have seen his previous postings. Let's just say they were less than eloquent. For example, this employee used the word...
Not Tony, Scoot. You must not have seen his previous postings. Let's just say they were less than eloquent. For example, this employee used the word "hence" correctly twice and generally has decent sentence structure.

It's definitely not Tony.
still has a chance at being Tony as he misused the word "then" in the same sentence.

had the tweet not happened this topic wouldn't have either which brings me to this thought

If MCR hangs their hat on being at the highest level of professionalism (been said multiple time by folks close to their camp) then to me that means that every attention to detail centers around that exactly. From the tire dressing on the hauler, to the stickers on the bikes, to the cling on's in their pits, to the blurbs on social media by anyone representing Leisure Concepts, MCRracing, etc. etc. Cross your t's and dot your i's and all this goes away.

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dirtnapper wrote:
Why do they find it necessary to send out tweets and advertise on social media that Mike "dominated everyone" or "was the fastest rider at the...
Why do they find it necessary to send out tweets and advertise on social media that Mike "dominated everyone" or "was the fastest rider at the beach party" or had a "convincing win" when they do well at a race?

Did Mitch go on Facebook on Sat night and say "Blake totally whipped everyone this weekend". Has Roger ever gone on Twitter or Instagram and said "No one could touch Ryan Dungey this weekend" ?

If MCR is claiming to be such a professional, highly funded, top notch team, why do they have to try to convince everyone else? Why do they have to brag up their successes? Why do they have to ALWAYS draw attention to themselves, one way or another?

Huh

It really seems weak, and almost desperate. They should just shut their mouths ( or laptops and smartphones ) and just go prove how good they are instead of trying to convince everyone else.........
You just sent out a message about their message, which is weaker.
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Sully22 7/16/2014 8:57am
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You people are so mean and do nothing but talk bad things about this team...They could get boatloads of support if you all would just quit picking on them and saying bad things about them here. I mean, sponsors come here and make their decisions on levels of support based upon what the vitalmx community is saying about a rider at any given time....spelling and grammar are omitted from the decision making process though, I mean, they gotta know about homeschooling and all...oh yeah, eat butthole.
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Sully22 wrote:
You people are so mean and do nothing but talk bad things about this team...They could get boatloads of support if you all would just quit...
You people are so mean and do nothing but talk bad things about this team...They could get boatloads of support if you all would just quit picking on them and saying bad things about them here. I mean, sponsors come here and make their decisions on levels of support based upon what the vitalmx community is saying about a rider at any given time....spelling and grammar are omitted from the decision making process though, I mean, they gotta know about homeschooling and all...oh yeah, eat butthole.
I hope this was a joke?

No potential sponsor who's going to throw money into any company is going to base their decisions on a bunch of forum keyboard warriors opinions!

So please tell me this was just a sarcastic response to an already dead thread
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Sully22 7/16/2014 9:55am
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Sully22 wrote:
You people are so mean and do nothing but talk bad things about this team...They could get boatloads of support if you all would just quit...
You people are so mean and do nothing but talk bad things about this team...They could get boatloads of support if you all would just quit picking on them and saying bad things about them here. I mean, sponsors come here and make their decisions on levels of support based upon what the vitalmx community is saying about a rider at any given time....spelling and grammar are omitted from the decision making process though, I mean, they gotta know about homeschooling and all...oh yeah, eat butthole.
2WheelsForTheMasses wrote:
I hope this was a joke? No potential sponsor who's going to throw money into any company is going to base their decisions on a bunch...
I hope this was a joke?

No potential sponsor who's going to throw money into any company is going to base their decisions on a bunch of forum keyboard warriors opinions!

So please tell me this was just a sarcastic response to an already dead thread
Bingo...the quote below plus other things that have been said.

Page 1, Jeff Alessi quote

....I think if you guys stopped critiquing everything about our program that annoys you then maybe we could get some support but instead y'all keep talking about everything else that my brother doesn't control or do. I would be willing to bet if you guys worked your asses off as much as my brother has an got nothing but unbiased bashing all day 98% of you would quit and disappear from the community you guys have become but I'll tell you what not mike he sees what it's about to you guys, y'all want to talk talk talk to see a person quit and the harder he tries to more you guys try. You guys are chasing something that's evil to be after and all the while there's 10x worse things going on behind closed doors in the sport then some kid putting his heart and soul into something he loves and never gives up doing. Good job guys way to be a class act.
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ChrisB10 7/16/2014 10:07am
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you people spend more time on vital than you do on your bikes

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