I Feel Bad for Christophe Pourcel

Edited Date/Time 7/4/2014 9:19am
It's clear that Christophe is probably the fastest rider in the 250 class. . . for one lap. Almost every weekend he is able to click off a single fast time at the end of practice that puts him at the top of the qualifying leader board -- a time that usually blows the other riders out of the water.

The guy is brilliant on the bike; his style is absolutely effortless. I consider his technical skill to be the gold standard out of any pro rider.

But it's obvious that his injury is still holding him back.

His 2007 crash that left him paralyzed from the waste down has been well documented. Doctors told him that he had a 30% chance of being able to walk again, and he was unable to for two months.

CoolG mentioned in the broadcast last weekend that CP377 really isn't able to train like he should be able to due to the residual physical problems he is experiencing, and it doesn't end there.

Not only is he unable to adequately train during the week, but it has been mentioned that his body struggles to regulate its temperature, a lingering result of severe spinal trauma. We've seen the fan on his bars on the starting gate, it's an aid that he relies upon because his body no longer has the capacity to cool itself like it should.

He has admitted that his strategy is to get the lead and to hold off the pack for as long as he can; to block the rest of the guys during the first half of he race so that he has something left in the tank for the last few laps. He knows that due to his physical limitations he cannot ride at full speed the entire race and instead must resort to these tactics.

Can you imagine how tough it would be knowing that you're probably the fastest rider on the track, but due to an injury you're unable to ride to your full ability for a full moto? It would be like if Michael Phelps had a lung removed, or if Jimmie Johnson lost an eye. To see your full potential right in front of you and to know that it's just out of reach due to an obstacle that is impossible to overcome must be absolutely miserable.

I feel bad for Christophe.


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7/2/2014 9:08pm
Yep, he sure can turn a fast lap. Picked him to win on several occasions this year in fantasy picks thinking that day would be the day he put it all together.
7/2/2014 9:12pm
That would be a good excuse but.... he almost won the championship a few years ago with the same injury from 2007. He had the championship in the bag until he threw it away and hurt his shoulder so please try again.Tongue
7/2/2014 9:14pm
The only reason to feel bad for him is that this industry seems to think its cool to blackball him. I will feel bad for him next year if/when he can't get a good ride and we once again can't see him race 450 SX.

Other than that, he can train fine. I think he should get a trainer so he can efficiently get in race shape and stronger.

With him, you get too many pundits taking shots in the dark and making blanket statements about what he is or isn't doing or what he can or can't do. It's rare that this industry just talks to him and gets the deal first hand.
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7/2/2014 9:24pm
Dart Board wrote:
The only reason to feel bad for him is that this industry seems to think its cool to blackball him. I will feel bad for him...
The only reason to feel bad for him is that this industry seems to think its cool to blackball him. I will feel bad for him next year if/when he can't get a good ride and we once again can't see him race 450 SX.

Other than that, he can train fine. I think he should get a trainer so he can efficiently get in race shape and stronger.

With him, you get too many pundits taking shots in the dark and making blanket statements about what he is or isn't doing or what he can or can't do. It's rare that this industry just talks to him and gets the deal first hand.
People get black balled when they don't do what they are supposed to and Champions like Him with his results can get away with a lot of shit.

If He is Black Balled like you say maybe He earned it.

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7/2/2014 9:27pm
Yamaha and motoconcepts would be the ones with the biggest right to take issue with him. Both tried to hire him this year.

In general I feel that there is a negative vibe around his name in the industry but I don't think many have actually worked with him.
7/2/2014 9:36pm Edited Date/Time 7/2/2014 9:40pm
lostboy819 wrote:
That would be a good excuse but.... he almost won the championship a few years ago with the same injury from 2007. He had the championship...
That would be a good excuse but.... he almost won the championship a few years ago with the same injury from 2007. He had the championship in the bag until he threw it away and hurt his shoulder so please try again.Tongue
He was dealing with the same problems then too...

I think he was the first person I saw using the trashcan full of ice water to cool his body down.
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7/2/2014 9:37pm
Lots of people could be great if it wasn't for this or that. Pourcel is awesome no doubt, often times the fastest for one lap on a smooth track. But moto is so much more than that. I believe one of the reason the usa is not a dominant is because the tracks on a local level have become too easy. Too many jumps, which are too easy for a good novice or above, and not nearly enough roughness. Bob Hannah was awesome to watch on a super-rough supercross track, can't even imagine more than a couple bumps in supercross hardly anymore. California used to have most the fast guys, because they would ride the rough back in the day. Now, all the tracks are made for the weekend warrior and old man, nice and smooth like, bunch of easy azz jumps too. Yeah, I agree that it is fun, but it sure doesn't help our kids future moto skills. On race day, there are so many crashes because the track gets 'hammered', thats, how it should be, so they get used to true moto. Don't groom the track during the week I think.
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7/2/2014 9:44pm
He came pretty close to winning the championship a few times already and that was AFTER the injury.

I think the problem is the time he spent away from racing, the raising of the bar as it were (competition keeps getting faster), and a new bike.

I do feel bad for him a little. I think he is good for the sport, despite his idiosyncrasies. Hopefully he can take it up a notch here in the second half of the series. (I'd like to see Marvin step it up too).
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7/2/2014 9:50pm
I watched the recent video that explained his injury, the recovery and its complications.

He is so fortunate that he's able to race after that injury. To come back and run in the top five is a great accomplishment.
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I feel bad for anyone that has to deal with an injury, Christophe has had a very successful career. He's done very well for himself and continues to do well. So many riders with lingering Injuries going through the same, maybe not the same injury but something that holds them back from full potential.
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7/2/2014 10:13pm
There are a bunch of guys through the years that have been able to put together ONE single fast lap......that doesn't always mean you are going to be the fastest in the race.

I don't feel sorry for CP at all. He's living his dream. There are a few guys out there that actually made the jump to the 450's.....and they have broken bones in their backs. Trey Canard comes to mind.

I am however extremely happy for the dude being able to still race a bike. happy for us fans as well.....since we get to watch him.
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7/2/2014 10:15pm
Dart Board wrote:
The only reason to feel bad for him is that this industry seems to think its cool to blackball him. I will feel bad for him...
The only reason to feel bad for him is that this industry seems to think its cool to blackball him. I will feel bad for him next year if/when he can't get a good ride and we once again can't see him race 450 SX.

Other than that, he can train fine. I think he should get a trainer so he can efficiently get in race shape and stronger.

With him, you get too many pundits taking shots in the dark and making blanket statements about what he is or isn't doing or what he can or can't do. It's rare that this industry just talks to him and gets the deal first hand.
There are a few things wrong with what you just posted.

I know you're a huge fan of his.....but you aren't thinking clearly on this.
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7/2/2014 10:16pm
I think the problem is the time he spent away from racing, the raising of the bar as it were (competition keeps getting faster), and a new bike.

+1
Seems to me that he wasn't quite ready at the start of the season but he is racing himself into shape. He does a bit better each race.
With a bit of luck I think he can win a moto before the season is over.
7/2/2014 10:25pm Edited Date/Time 7/2/2014 10:27pm
lostboy819 wrote:
That would be a good excuse but.... he almost won the championship a few years ago with the same injury from 2007. He had the championship...
That would be a good excuse but.... he almost won the championship a few years ago with the same injury from 2007. He had the championship in the bag until he threw it away and hurt his shoulder so please try again.Tongue
TripleFive wrote:
He was dealing with the same problems then too... I think he was the first person I saw using the trashcan full of ice water to...
He was dealing with the same problems then too...

I think he was the first person I saw using the trashcan full of ice water to cool his body down.
No one is saying his body has not been affected by his crash in 2007 but its the same old injury he has dealt with even when he was winning, its not a new thing for him this year. I think its great he has done as well as he has after that crash but his less than stellar results are from sitting out not racing and the rest of the MX world passed him by.
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7/2/2014 10:28pm
I do not feel bad for him - he races dirt bikes for a living and makes pretty good money doing so.

He hasn't raced in 18 months? He is doing damm good with that break.
7/2/2014 10:29pm
bd wrote:
I do not feel bad for him - he races dirt bikes for a living and makes pretty good money doing so. He hasn't raced in...
I do not feel bad for him - he races dirt bikes for a living and makes pretty good money doing so.

He hasn't raced in 18 months? He is doing damm good with that break.
Yep.
7/2/2014 10:33pm
Dart Board wrote:
The only reason to feel bad for him is that this industry seems to think its cool to blackball him. I will feel bad for him...
The only reason to feel bad for him is that this industry seems to think its cool to blackball him. I will feel bad for him next year if/when he can't get a good ride and we once again can't see him race 450 SX.

Other than that, he can train fine. I think he should get a trainer so he can efficiently get in race shape and stronger.

With him, you get too many pundits taking shots in the dark and making blanket statements about what he is or isn't doing or what he can or can't do. It's rare that this industry just talks to him and gets the deal first hand.
jeffro503 wrote:
There are a few things wrong with what you just posted.

I know you're a huge fan of his.....but you aren't thinking clearly on this.
Explain to me how I'm wrong.
7/2/2014 11:03pm
Dart Board wrote:
The only reason to feel bad for him is that this industry seems to think its cool to blackball him. I will feel bad for him...
The only reason to feel bad for him is that this industry seems to think its cool to blackball him. I will feel bad for him next year if/when he can't get a good ride and we once again can't see him race 450 SX.

Other than that, he can train fine. I think he should get a trainer so he can efficiently get in race shape and stronger.

With him, you get too many pundits taking shots in the dark and making blanket statements about what he is or isn't doing or what he can or can't do. It's rare that this industry just talks to him and gets the deal first hand.
jeffro503 wrote:
There are a few things wrong with what you just posted.

I know you're a huge fan of his.....but you aren't thinking clearly on this.
Dart Board wrote:
Explain to me how I'm wrong.
I don't think he was ever blackballed, I think his asking price was too high at a time when everyone was cutting back and there were lots of riders not getting a ride. I don't know if he could have signed for less money but it sounds like he had his price and stuck to it.
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7/2/2014 11:50pm Edited Date/Time 7/2/2014 11:51pm
Christophe said recently that his stomach's problems are over which is a good news for him. I don't know about his fitness and his others health issues (temperature regulation and all).

From what I've seen, I think Christophe is still a bit scared of injuries (and I can't blame him). Everytime a rider comes too close from him and shows him the front wheel, he seems to tense. If the rider is clean (Baggett) he will fight a bit, if he's a litlle bit too wild (Anderson, Bogle), at the first contact, it's over.

I think this, plus the 18 month or so out of the business and the fact that he's matured and maybe thinks a little bit more are the main reasons of his failures.

And for the "black balled" thing, you only get what you deserve. He's in conflict with everyone he's worked with, there's must be a reason and it can't be always the others fault. Christophe needs to man up and assume his mistakes. Last week end he said his bike stopped on a jump. Seriously, knowing Christophe, if the bike had stopped by itself on a jump, Christophe would have quit cause it would have been to dangerous...
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7/3/2014 12:10am
Easy now, he's going to be a title contender in the 450 SX class next year. Stamp it!
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He will make sure to ride strong series and be there at the end. All riders will have bad motos and some sort of injuries. He did push pace last weekend little on difficult track and its getting stronger. He seems to enjoy living in US and having fun with bike.. i dont feel bad for him.. could be lot worse.
7/3/2014 12:30am Edited Date/Time 7/3/2014 1:16am
give him chance he's had 2 years off from professional racing and is still consistently top 5 and improving every week so far! he looked very good last week, just faded a bit at the end of the races. He's about due a win soon in my opinion- he is always very good at unadilla...

im just glad he's out there racing! love to watch this guy ride a bike- smoothest most effortless style of anyone out there!
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7/3/2014 12:43am
Don't feel bad for him, he wouldn't for you...
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i would like to see him back on a kawi again. If REED cant land the guys he wants I think Pourcel would be good plus he gets lots of attention so it could be good publicity not that Reed needs much more but it would be good for sponsors
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rangot wrote:
Don't feel bad for him, he wouldn't for you...
Laughing So true...
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7/3/2014 3:30am Edited Date/Time 7/3/2014 3:31am
TripleFive wrote:
It's clear that Christophe is probably the fastest rider in the 250 class. . . for one lap. Almost every weekend he is able to click...
It's clear that Christophe is probably the fastest rider in the 250 class. . . for one lap. Almost every weekend he is able to click off a single fast time at the end of practice that puts him at the top of the qualifying leader board -- a time that usually blows the other riders out of the water.

The guy is brilliant on the bike; his style is absolutely effortless. I consider his technical skill to be the gold standard out of any pro rider.

But it's obvious that his injury is still holding him back.

His 2007 crash that left him paralyzed from the waste down has been well documented. Doctors told him that he had a 30% chance of being able to walk again, and he was unable to for two months.

CoolG mentioned in the broadcast last weekend that CP377 really isn't able to train like he should be able to due to the residual physical problems he is experiencing, and it doesn't end there.

Not only is he unable to adequately train during the week, but it has been mentioned that his body struggles to regulate its temperature, a lingering result of severe spinal trauma. We've seen the fan on his bars on the starting gate, it's an aid that he relies upon because his body no longer has the capacity to cool itself like it should.

He has admitted that his strategy is to get the lead and to hold off the pack for as long as he can; to block the rest of the guys during the first half of he race so that he has something left in the tank for the last few laps. He knows that due to his physical limitations he cannot ride at full speed the entire race and instead must resort to these tactics.

Can you imagine how tough it would be knowing that you're probably the fastest rider on the track, but due to an injury you're unable to ride to your full ability for a full moto? It would be like if Michael Phelps had a lung removed, or if Jimmie Johnson lost an eye. To see your full potential right in front of you and to know that it's just out of reach due to an obstacle that is impossible to overcome must be absolutely miserable.

I feel bad for Christophe.


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You know you're a sucker when you feel worse for someone than they feel for themselves. Pretty common knowledge CP was liquidating his assets and decided to race again for some coin. I mean we're talking about a guy who put less than 10 hours on a practice bike ALL SUMMER and that's from his old mechanics mouth. He's making serious coin and healthy. It's not secret this guy doesn't train hard at all. I've heard that from people like DV who said he'd rather jet ski than put in motos during the week. Worry about more important things in life.
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How do you know that? I find that hard to believe when I know for a fact that he left money on the table. He turned down sponsors that were willing to pay decent money. I know this for a fact, because I spoke with him.

Also the practice bike rumour was back in the PC days as far as I know.
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loftyair wrote:
Lots of people could be great if it wasn't for this or that. Pourcel is awesome no doubt, often times the fastest for one lap on...
Lots of people could be great if it wasn't for this or that. Pourcel is awesome no doubt, often times the fastest for one lap on a smooth track. But moto is so much more than that. I believe one of the reason the usa is not a dominant is because the tracks on a local level have become too easy. Too many jumps, which are too easy for a good novice or above, and not nearly enough roughness. Bob Hannah was awesome to watch on a super-rough supercross track, can't even imagine more than a couple bumps in supercross hardly anymore. California used to have most the fast guys, because they would ride the rough back in the day. Now, all the tracks are made for the weekend warrior and old man, nice and smooth like, bunch of easy azz jumps too. Yeah, I agree that it is fun, but it sure doesn't help our kids future moto skills. On race day, there are so many crashes because the track gets 'hammered', thats, how it should be, so they get used to true moto. Don't groom the track during the week I think.
There were a few Supercross tracks where only a few guys could jump the rhythm sections consistently. Makes for boring racing. Supercross tracks are certainly not rough, but they are more than challenging. On most tracks there are jumps / sections that if you miss, you're taking a ride in an ambulance and will be missing the rest of the series. I'd prefer a safer track where all the riders had to race each other to win...rather than 5 guys out with injury and it turning into a freestyle event. As for local tracks, no need to make them any more dangerous either. I'd rather start on a groomed track, it will get rough enough on race day.
7/3/2014 5:15am
I don't feel bad for him at all. Some would say the fact that he can walk after his injury is nothing short of a miracle, and he's able to not only walk, but also race a dirtbike at the highest level of the sport. He is a blessed individual to say the least.

He's also a MX2 world champion, 2x lites SX Champion, MX1 GP winner, and has finished runner up in the lites nationals to two very good riders. He's had a far better career than most, and it still isn't over. He could be a lites national champion this year if he can string together some wins here before too long.

If I were you, I'd save the bad feelings for other folks who've really had it bad. Like maybe the guy here on the forum that just lost his son to a road bike accident. I'm sure that guy could use some condolences at this time.
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7/3/2014 5:28am Edited Date/Time 7/3/2014 5:29am
I do not feel bad for the guy. I hope he finds a way to be more aggressive because that would make the 250 championship even better (on top of making him a real contender). Unfortunately, as said above, I haven"t noticed a while that fighting spirit that he seems to lack to pretend to get the #1 plate (considering the level of his competitors).

Which is interesting cause in his interviews you can understand he is aiming for the #1 plate.

I hope he proves me wrong and get some wins, he is a good addition to the show. But what do you prefer : a guy that rides like pure poetry (CP) or a guy that gives no f$ck and aims for the win till the very end of each moto (BB4) ? You could say both...

Sometime I think I want him to win more than he "wants"(from my couch's view)...

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