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I may be late on this...but has Stewart been cleared to ride this weekend at RedBud? In the Yoshimura video after Muddy Creek he kept saying he "hoped" he'd be racing next (this) weekend.
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He should be cleared as long as USADA/WADA says anything different, the june 30th is only FIM.
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davistld01 7/2/2014 1:06pm
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Olson wrote:
He should be cleared as long as USADA/WADA says anything different, the june 30th is only FIM.
That makes sense.
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Olson wrote:
He should be cleared as long as USADA/WADA says anything different, the june 30th is only FIM.
What about June 30th?
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Olson wrote:
He should be cleared as long as USADA/WADA says anything different, the june 30th is only FIM.
What is about June 30th you keep on talking about??

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Olson wrote:
He should be cleared as long as USADA/WADA says anything different, the june 30th is only FIM.
kongols wrote:
What is about June 30th you keep on talking about??
Calm down Huh
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Olson wrote:
He should be cleared as long as USADA/WADA says anything different, the june 30th is only FIM.
kongols wrote:
What about June 30th?
"Mr James Stewart is provisionally suspended with effect from 20 June until further notice." -FIM

It was later talked about the date being June 30th, which I can't confirm. What matters is as long as it's just a provisional suspension it won't affect competition outside of FIM.
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kongols 7/2/2014 1:17pm
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Olson wrote:
He should be cleared as long as USADA/WADA says anything different, the june 30th is only FIM.
kongols wrote:
What about June 30th?
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[i]"Mr James Stewart is provisionally suspended with effect from 20 June until further notice."[/i] -FIM It was later talked about the date being June 30th, which...
"Mr James Stewart is provisionally suspended with effect from 20 June until further notice." -FIM

It was later talked about the date being June 30th, which I can't confirm. What matters is as long as it's just a provisional suspension it won't affect competition outside of FIM.
Where it was talked about?
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IceMan446 7/2/2014 1:18pm
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Olson wrote:
[i]"Mr James Stewart is provisionally suspended with effect from 20 June until further notice."[/i] -FIM It was later talked about the date being June 30th, which...
"Mr James Stewart is provisionally suspended with effect from 20 June until further notice." -FIM

It was later talked about the date being June 30th, which I can't confirm. What matters is as long as it's just a provisional suspension it won't affect competition outside of FIM.
That suspension has no bearing on him racing the nationals. That was discussed on the show this weekend.

The deciding factor will be what happens at his provisional hearing, which I have not seen a date for as of yet.
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Olson 7/2/2014 1:19pm
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kongols wrote:
What is about June 30th you keep on talking about??
Really? I can't be away from this post for 5min without you freaking out?
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That suspension has no bearing on him racing the nationals. That was discussed on the show this weekend. The deciding factor will be what happens at...
That suspension has no bearing on him racing the nationals. That was discussed on the show this weekend.

The deciding factor will be what happens at his provisional hearing, which I have not seen a date for as of yet.
That's what I said? HE IS CLEARED TO RACE AS LONG AS AN AUTHORITY SAYS ANYTHING DIFFERENT!

If something where to be said, we would know.
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kongols wrote:
What is about June 30th you keep on talking about??
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Really? I can't be away from this post for 5min without you freaking out?
I wanted to edit my first post but instead wrote another. If it helps you I can delete one of them.
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I wanted to edit my first post but instead wrote another. If it helps you I can delete one of them.
It's cool. Cool
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That's what I said? [u][b]HE IS CLEARED TO RACE AS LONG AS AN AUTHORITY SAYS ANYTHING DIFFERENT! [/b][/u] If something where to be said, we would...
That's what I said? HE IS CLEARED TO RACE AS LONG AS AN AUTHORITY SAYS ANYTHING DIFFERENT!

If something where to be said, we would know.
Ok, so next time, leave the June 30th date out of your response, as it has zero effect on him racing.

Until the hearing is done, he will be there.
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rcm406 7/2/2014 1:46pm
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davistld01 wrote:
I may be late on this...but has Stewart been cleared to ride this weekend at RedBud? In the Yoshimura video after Muddy Creek he kept saying...
I may be late on this...but has Stewart been cleared to ride this weekend at RedBud? In the Yoshimura video after Muddy Creek he kept saying he "hoped" he'd be racing next (this) weekend.
Or unless the results come back from Thunder Valley and they're positive, then he has a whole new set of problems!
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davistld01 7/2/2014 3:10pm
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I said it made sense thinking I'd missed something away from the board & the 30th and the FIM had some connection. They don't.

The answer to my question seems to be that the FIM has no connection to the Outdoor Nationals, and unless the authorities decide to stop him & until the hearing is over, he's still good to go. No new news.

Wonder why James was questioning whether he'd be able to race?
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I said it made sense thinking I'd missed something away from the board & the 30th and the FIM had some connection. They don't. The answer...
I said it made sense thinking I'd missed something away from the board & the 30th and the FIM had some connection. They don't.

The answer to my question seems to be that the FIM has no connection to the Outdoor Nationals, and unless the authorities decide to stop him & until the hearing is over, he's still good to go. No new news.

Wonder why James was questioning whether he'd be able to race?
Good read.

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davistld01 wrote:
I said it made sense thinking I'd missed something away from the board & the 30th and the FIM had some connection. They don't. The answer...
I said it made sense thinking I'd missed something away from the board & the 30th and the FIM had some connection. They don't.

The answer to my question seems to be that the FIM has no connection to the Outdoor Nationals, and unless the authorities decide to stop him & until the hearing is over, he's still good to go. No new news.

Wonder why James was questioning whether he'd be able to race?
Maybe he knows the hearing is this week sometime?

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davistld01 wrote:
I said it made sense thinking I'd missed something away from the board & the 30th and the FIM had some connection. They don't. The answer...
I said it made sense thinking I'd missed something away from the board & the 30th and the FIM had some connection. They don't.

The answer to my question seems to be that the FIM has no connection to the Outdoor Nationals, and unless the authorities decide to stop him & until the hearing is over, he's still good to go. No new news.

Wonder why James was questioning whether he'd be able to race?
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Good read.

Rapid Reaxtion: Why Stewart Can Race

Gave me a headache...but yeah, good read.

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davistld01 wrote:
I said it made sense thinking I'd missed something away from the board & the 30th and the FIM had some connection. They don't. The answer...
I said it made sense thinking I'd missed something away from the board & the 30th and the FIM had some connection. They don't.

The answer to my question seems to be that the FIM has no connection to the Outdoor Nationals, and unless the authorities decide to stop him & until the hearing is over, he's still good to go. No new news.

Wonder why James was questioning whether he'd be able to race?
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Maybe he knows the hearing is this week sometime?

or knows the Thunder Valley results are about to be in.
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One of the AMA officials was interviewed before Muddy Creek. It was pretty clear what their position was:
#1: As long as the FIM suspension is provisional, AMA/MX Sports will take no action.
#2: The AMA has an association with FIM/WADA, but it is not a signatory member, etc.
#3: Only when a final sanction is made, and the suspension is no longer provisional, will they consider action. Even then, they have discretion in how they will respond.

Translated: We are not banning James unless we have to.
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StartedTooLate wrote:
One of the AMA officials was interviewed before Muddy Creek. It was pretty clear what their position was: #1: As long as the FIM suspension is...
One of the AMA officials was interviewed before Muddy Creek. It was pretty clear what their position was:
#1: As long as the FIM suspension is provisional, AMA/MX Sports will take no action.
#2: The AMA has an association with FIM/WADA, but it is not a signatory member, etc.
#3: Only when a final sanction is made, and the suspension is no longer provisional, will they consider action. Even then, they have discretion in how they will respond.

Translated: We are not banning James unless we have to.
That's what I got from the interview as well.
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StartedTooLate wrote:
One of the AMA officials was interviewed before Muddy Creek. It was pretty clear what their position was: #1: As long as the FIM suspension is...
One of the AMA officials was interviewed before Muddy Creek. It was pretty clear what their position was:
#1: As long as the FIM suspension is provisional, AMA/MX Sports will take no action.
#2: The AMA has an association with FIM/WADA, but it is not a signatory member, etc.
#3: Only when a final sanction is made, and the suspension is no longer provisional, will they consider action. Even then, they have discretion in how they will respond.

Translated: We are not banning James unless we have to.
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That's what I got from the interview as well.
" I think "....and I may be totally wrong on this.....BUT , what the FIM and WADA may do........is if James keeps racing , it's like sticking up the big middle finger to the both of them. And from what FTE said in one of his posts is......." They could make him wish he didn't ".

As in.......if he keeps racing the nationals....it may very well reflect on his future SX series. Like full penalty type stuff. Which is something like 2 friggin' years!

IF that happens.......I just don't see James switching to outdoors , US nationals only.
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MxKing809 7/2/2014 8:11pm
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StartedTooLate wrote:
One of the AMA officials was interviewed before Muddy Creek. It was pretty clear what their position was: #1: As long as the FIM suspension is...
One of the AMA officials was interviewed before Muddy Creek. It was pretty clear what their position was:
#1: As long as the FIM suspension is provisional, AMA/MX Sports will take no action.
#2: The AMA has an association with FIM/WADA, but it is not a signatory member, etc.
#3: Only when a final sanction is made, and the suspension is no longer provisional, will they consider action. Even then, they have discretion in how they will respond.

Translated: We are not banning James unless we have to.
slipdog wrote:
That's what I got from the interview as well.
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" I think "....and I may be totally wrong on this.....BUT , what the FIM and WADA may do........is if James keeps racing , it's like...
" I think "....and I may be totally wrong on this.....BUT , what the FIM and WADA may do........is if James keeps racing , it's like sticking up the big middle finger to the both of them. And from what FTE said in one of his posts is......." They could make him wish he didn't ".

As in.......if he keeps racing the nationals....it may very well reflect on his future SX series. Like full penalty type stuff. Which is something like 2 friggin' years!

IF that happens.......I just don't see James switching to outdoors , US nationals only.
Hey Jeffro, I'm under the impression that he can race he nationals now because there hasn't been a suspension levied yet, once the FIM and WADA make a judgement however I think it applies to ALL Motocross and Supercross races. So that would keep him from doing the outdoors as well.
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I would say if he gets a lengthy ban, he may just retire. I'd hate to see that happen. He's always a threat to win and the racing is so much better with him in the mix.
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slipdog wrote:
That's what I got from the interview as well.
jeffro503 wrote:
" I think "....and I may be totally wrong on this.....BUT , what the FIM and WADA may do........is if James keeps racing , it's like...
" I think "....and I may be totally wrong on this.....BUT , what the FIM and WADA may do........is if James keeps racing , it's like sticking up the big middle finger to the both of them. And from what FTE said in one of his posts is......." They could make him wish he didn't ".

As in.......if he keeps racing the nationals....it may very well reflect on his future SX series. Like full penalty type stuff. Which is something like 2 friggin' years!

IF that happens.......I just don't see James switching to outdoors , US nationals only.
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Hey Jeffro, I'm under the impression that he can race he nationals now because there hasn't been a suspension levied yet, once the FIM and WADA...
Hey Jeffro, I'm under the impression that he can race he nationals now because there hasn't been a suspension levied yet, once the FIM and WADA make a judgement however I think it applies to ALL Motocross and Supercross races. So that would keep him from doing the outdoors as well.
Well.....that is a tricky situation though. DC said that ( in so many words ) that the FIM and WADA would really have to put their foot down before MX sports caved in and gave him a suspension. At least that is what I got out of it. But " If they did "....he made it sound like MX sports would bow down and follow the FIM and WADA ruling.

Who knows? I'm hoping for the best for James. But God damn it! Who the hell was it that dropped the ball on getting a TUE filed before the SX season?

THAT.....right there could be the straw that breaks the camels back! If FIM and WADA think that James is " Giving them the middle finger " in all this......they may come down on him like a ton of bricks......which WILL affect his National series!

We'll have to see how this plays out.
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jeffro503 wrote:
" I think "....and I may be totally wrong on this.....BUT , what the FIM and WADA may do........is if James keeps racing , it's like...
" I think "....and I may be totally wrong on this.....BUT , what the FIM and WADA may do........is if James keeps racing , it's like sticking up the big middle finger to the both of them. And from what FTE said in one of his posts is......." They could make him wish he didn't ".

As in.......if he keeps racing the nationals....it may very well reflect on his future SX series. Like full penalty type stuff. Which is something like 2 friggin' years!

IF that happens.......I just don't see James switching to outdoors , US nationals only.
MxKing809 wrote:
Hey Jeffro, I'm under the impression that he can race he nationals now because there hasn't been a suspension levied yet, once the FIM and WADA...
Hey Jeffro, I'm under the impression that he can race he nationals now because there hasn't been a suspension levied yet, once the FIM and WADA make a judgement however I think it applies to ALL Motocross and Supercross races. So that would keep him from doing the outdoors as well.
jeffro503 wrote:
Well.....that is a tricky situation though. DC said that ( in so many words ) that the FIM and WADA would really have to put their...
Well.....that is a tricky situation though. DC said that ( in so many words ) that the FIM and WADA would really have to put their foot down before MX sports caved in and gave him a suspension. At least that is what I got out of it. But " If they did "....he made it sound like MX sports would bow down and follow the FIM and WADA ruling.

Who knows? I'm hoping for the best for James. But God damn it! Who the hell was it that dropped the ball on getting a TUE filed before the SX season?

THAT.....right there could be the straw that breaks the camels back! If FIM and WADA think that James is " Giving them the middle finger " in all this......they may come down on him like a ton of bricks......which WILL affect his National series!

We'll have to see how this plays out.
I think this is a bunch of crap! Let the man be and race or dont!

Which I hope they just clear him already and he can move on and start killing it again!
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I don't see them "making him wish he didn't race the outdoors" just for amphetamines.
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Or unless the results come back from Thunder Valley and they're positive, then he has a whole new set of problems!
And if they're negative he's going to need a whole new explanation for how his supercross fail was down to prescription drugs to treat a long term medical condition.
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jeffro503 wrote:
" I think "....and I may be totally wrong on this.....BUT , what the FIM and WADA may do........is if James keeps racing , it's like...
" I think "....and I may be totally wrong on this.....BUT , what the FIM and WADA may do........is if James keeps racing , it's like sticking up the big middle finger to the both of them. And from what FTE said in one of his posts is......." They could make him wish he didn't ".

As in.......if he keeps racing the nationals....it may very well reflect on his future SX series. Like full penalty type stuff. Which is something like 2 friggin' years!

IF that happens.......I just don't see James switching to outdoors , US nationals only.
Nope, that is not how it works. If they did'nt want a rider to race they would not call it provisional suspension. The rules are super clear. And I honestly dont think FIM gives a shit if a riders races in another series they got nothing to do with. It's out of their jurisdiction.

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