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3/30/2014 9:34pm
Grieby54 wrote:
Barcia's pass on Peick was just fine. Peick looks like a baby by the way he complains about it. Did he see the pass for the...
Barcia's pass on Peick was just fine. Peick looks like a baby by the way he complains about it. Did he see the pass for the lead? There was more contact there.
IceMan446 wrote:
James pass was a lot cleaner than Justins. Matter of fact I dont think James even touched RV. Go back and watch the pass Barcia put...
James pass was a lot cleaner than Justins. Matter of fact I dont think James even touched RV.

Go back and watch the pass Barcia put on Weston again.
Correct.
If Barcia had just taken Peick high in the turn but not aimed for his front wheel, I don't think there would have been any issues.

That said, it was still just an aggressive pass.
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3/30/2014 10:02pm
Barcia is awesome! Personally I think he possesses the ability to make a clean pass on a guy like Peick or Malcolm and just check out. No disrespect intended. I just feel like Barcia would be doing himself a favor to clean it up a bit and work on speed.
3/30/2014 11:03pm Edited Date/Time 3/30/2014 11:03pm
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JW381 wrote:
I agree with Barcia wondering what racing is coming to. I'm not a Barcia nut hugger or anything by any means, he just rides aggressive and...
I agree with Barcia wondering what racing is coming to. I'm not a Barcia nut hugger or anything by any means, he just rides aggressive and everyone complains every single time he throws a block pass. Sometimes he goes too hard, but most of the time they're just aggressive passes, like the one on Peick.
Name another rider who makes every single pass a front wheel dive bomb block pass....? That is the point. Block passes are risky for both riders Over the course of season, if that is the only way you pass...you are going to pay the price. You are going to end up on the dirt a few times. You can not be a realistic title contender like that. Barcia is too much of a knuckle head to do the math. Unless he develops some more, lower risk passing skills, last years 4th in the points may be his career best. Championship? That is a laugh.
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3/30/2014 11:11pm
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JW381 wrote:
I agree with Barcia wondering what racing is coming to. I'm not a Barcia nut hugger or anything by any means, he just rides aggressive and...
I agree with Barcia wondering what racing is coming to. I'm not a Barcia nut hugger or anything by any means, he just rides aggressive and everyone complains every single time he throws a block pass. Sometimes he goes too hard, but most of the time they're just aggressive passes, like the one on Peick.
Name another rider who makes every single pass a front wheel dive bomb block pass....? That is the point. Block passes are risky for both riders...
Name another rider who makes every single pass a front wheel dive bomb block pass....? That is the point. Block passes are risky for both riders Over the course of season, if that is the only way you pass...you are going to pay the price. You are going to end up on the dirt a few times. You can not be a realistic title contender like that. Barcia is too much of a knuckle head to do the math. Unless he develops some more, lower risk passing skills, last years 4th in the points may be his career best. Championship? That is a laugh.
I never said anything about him being a title contender though? All I said was he's aggressive and I like it and Peick was being a little baby back bitch. You're right, it is risky and he won't be a contender riding that way, but he's got a helluva better shot than Privateer Peick. I applaud Weston's effort, but I don't get why some of you (not saying you necessarily) ride his jock so hard.

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3/30/2014 11:52pm
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Peick wouldn't get out of the way...I was happy when Barcia pushed him high. Weston comes across like punk and its no wonder he dosnt have...
Peick wouldn't get out of the way...I was happy when Barcia pushed him high. Weston comes across like punk and its no wonder he dosnt have a real ride. The fake punch to the flagger last year was so lame. My buddy got in his way at GH a while back...He said sorry to Weston but he said Weston and his buddy were huge assholes even though he said sorry. Another weird thing about the Peicks...they posted a pic of there bike a couple weeks before the milestone SX. Then right before the race they said all the parts didn't show up and the bike wasn't ready. I posted and said..."the bike looks ready to race...why wasn't it raced" No reply. Very shaddy actions if you ask me.
Just to clarify, Weston should have got out Barcias way in the middle of a race, doesn't have a real ride because he is a punk, acted like an asshole to you and your buddy and his dad didn't reply to you on a message board. You have some serious issues mate!

Re the not getting a "real" ride, Barcia has done plenty of punk stuff and rides for one of the biggest terms there is.
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3/31/2014 1:10am Edited Date/Time 3/31/2014 1:12am
Hard nose racing means sometimes there are gonna be hard feelings.
3/31/2014 2:51am
No one seems to remember just last week in Detroit, Barcia passed Roczen for the lead in the main event, without block passing or making contact.
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How did that work out for him in Daytona? Imagine what his finish would have been if he didn't take Mookie high? The more he passes...
How did that work out for him in Daytona? Imagine what his finish would have been if he didn't take Mookie high? The more he passes like that the more stuff like Daytona is going to happen. Now don't get me wrong I'm all for aggressive riding and the sport needs someone like Barcia, but it's at his own expense and because of it he will have a hard time ever winning a championship.
BobPA wrote:
Actually in his defense the Daytona crash was cause by him turning into a Spode and losing the front end...not an intentional takeout
But was caused by him taking Mookie high in the corner....like I said I like aggressiveness, he just feels like he needs to do it every time...almost like he feels he has to because of the reputation.
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3/31/2014 4:46am
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You dicks praise Hannah And hate on Barcia for being aggressive and block passing people. Who the fuck cares if he does it every time? There...
You dicks praise Hannah

And hate on Barcia for being aggressive and block passing people. Who the fuck cares if he does it every time? There is no right or wrong way to pass
It appears it's really helping his championship chances. . . Not.

Barcia will never win a championship with his riding style. Too many guys will get the "that guy in particular isn't going to take this championship" mentality. I absolutely belive guys will start retaliating or riding beyond their means just to make sure Barcia won't win a championship.

Sure his passes are legal but when you take a shot at the front wheel on 95% of your passes. . . you're making the road to a championship much more difficult.
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3/31/2014 4:59am
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Just to clarify, Weston should have got out Barcias way in the middle of a race, doesn't have a real ride because he is a punk...
Just to clarify, Weston should have got out Barcias way in the middle of a race, doesn't have a real ride because he is a punk, acted like an asshole to you and your buddy and his dad didn't reply to you on a message board. You have some serious issues mate!

Re the not getting a "real" ride, Barcia has done plenty of punk stuff and rides for one of the biggest terms there is.
Big difference why JB has a good ride and will continue to get one, he has podium speed and a win here and there, something WP is not really close to right now. It's not that hard to figure out
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3/31/2014 6:07am
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Well I had 2 comments when I asked why Weston didn't race the Milestone SX...one from you and one from GuyB. What You and GuyB didn't...
Well I had 2 comments when I asked why Weston didn't race the Milestone SX...one from you and one from GuyB.
What You and GuyB didn't understand is, I wasn't expecting that Peick was going to race the chicken dipshit local race or whatever you called it...it was that Weston was ENTERED in that race.
Then when someone said Peick wasn't going to race there was a response from his Father saying the bike wasn't ready...something about people didn't deliver parts on time. So...I said wait...the bike looks like it was ready weeks ago...whats the problem. No response at all. That's weird! And I don't care who you are...if you act like Weston keeps acting no one will ever hire him.
Well said. WP is only hurting his chances at getting a top level ride with his kicking over his bike last year in Toronto IIRC and this punk move after the heat with JB51. Team managers are looking for riders that can do the following:

1. Deliver the goods week in and week out (WP has been fast at times but has to many poor finishes to go long with them)

2. Professional on and off the track (Drop kicking his bike at Toronto 13 and the elbow to JB51 is not professional)
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3/31/2014 6:28am
hillbilly wrote:
So,what happened over the triple?

Anyone see it?
this...... what happened over the triple and how has not a single person replied to this as many times as it has been mentioned?
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3/31/2014 6:28am
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So what the heck happened he made it in why didn't he ride. We were sitting where we had a good view of the Barcia/Peick deal...
So what the heck happened he made it in why didn't he ride. We were sitting where we had a good view of the Barcia/Peick deal. It was the usual Barcia crap he had the pass made but decided he needed to slam into him and try and take him out instead.
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Did you watch the race? or do you have blinders on?
Oh I was watching. I think it was the usual Barcia crap like I said. I've got no problem with some bumping and pushing but the way Barcia does it when he already has the pass made is just stupid.
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It appears it's really helping his championship chances. . . Not. Barcia will never win a championship with his riding style. Too many guys will get...
It appears it's really helping his championship chances. . . Not.

Barcia will never win a championship with his riding style. Too many guys will get the "that guy in particular isn't going to take this championship" mentality. I absolutely belive guys will start retaliating or riding beyond their means just to make sure Barcia won't win a championship.

Sure his passes are legal but when you take a shot at the front wheel on 95% of your passes. . . you're making the road to a championship much more difficult.
You were saying?



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DonM wrote:
How did that work out for him in Daytona? Imagine what his finish would have been if he didn't take Mookie high? The more he passes...
How did that work out for him in Daytona? Imagine what his finish would have been if he didn't take Mookie high? The more he passes like that the more stuff like Daytona is going to happen. Now don't get me wrong I'm all for aggressive riding and the sport needs someone like Barcia, but it's at his own expense and because of it he will have a hard time ever winning a championship.
BobPA wrote:
Actually in his defense the Daytona crash was cause by him turning into a Spode and losing the front end...not an intentional takeout
DonM wrote:
But was caused by him taking Mookie high in the corner....like I said I like aggressiveness, he just feels like he needs to do it every...
But was caused by him taking Mookie high in the corner....like I said I like aggressiveness, he just feels like he needs to do it every time...almost like he feels he has to because of the reputation.
Go back and watch it again. Barcia actually tucked the front all by his lonesome and fell in front of Malcom. It wasn't the takeout you remember.
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It appears it's really helping his championship chances. . . Not. Barcia will never win a championship with his riding style. Too many guys will get...
It appears it's really helping his championship chances. . . Not.

Barcia will never win a championship with his riding style. Too many guys will get the "that guy in particular isn't going to take this championship" mentality. I absolutely belive guys will start retaliating or riding beyond their means just to make sure Barcia won't win a championship.

Sure his passes are legal but when you take a shot at the front wheel on 95% of your passes. . . you're making the road to a championship much more difficult.
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You were saying? [URL=http://s817.photobucket.com/user/btf454/media/0E45B2E0-CEC1-4538-ACB5-6154A7D19E9B_zpsmoaxb3ik.jpg.html][IMG]http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz99/btf454/0E45B2E0-CEC1-4538-ACB5-6154A7D19E9B_zpsmoaxb3ik.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s817.photobucket.com/user/btf454/media/2E8D74A3-78BB-4BCA-9922-2AE8DF7C3FBB_zpsirkfazzj.jpg.html][IMG]http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz99/btf454/2E8D74A3-78BB-4BCA-9922-2AE8DF7C3FBB_zpsirkfazzj.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
You were saying?



You can get by with that riding style in the 250 class. Not in the 450. Sorry I didn't specify a 450 SX championship.
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3/31/2014 7:41am Edited Date/Time 3/31/2014 7:41am
^ haha, it is fine for people not to like Barcia or how he rides but to say he doesn't ride a 450 correctly is insane. He knows how to ride a 450 really well period
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I just rewatched the heat race with Barcia's pass on Peick. I think it was aggressive but it seemed clean enough. Baricia may have taken him a little to high but that's racing. I think the Peick elbow after the race was due to Barcia running his mouth. It looks like Peick said something to him, Barcia is half hanging off his bike and says something to Peick. I know damn well if some smart mouthed punk at the track said something to me after taking me high in a corner, I would want to retaliate too. I don't understand where you guys get off saying it's unprofessional. Look at all sports, there is always unsportsmanlike conduct going on. When there is competition your emotions get the better of you. I've gotten in fights in my adult hockey beer league. Why? It's stupid, I know, none of us are going to the NHL but it happens. You shake hands later and laugh at it over a beer.
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3/31/2014 9:34am Edited Date/Time 3/31/2014 9:42am
motorush wrote:
Kinda agree with Barcia.

Please tell me SX/MX isn't turning into nascar........ bunch of rich crybabies.
he seriously seems like a good moto dude. his pass was clean and he seems like he genuinely likes to race hard.

my dad always told me to take guys deep in corners, make them lose their momentum (not clean them out or t-bone them) so they can't get back by you down the next straight. i see nothing wrong with what Barcia did to Peick.
3/31/2014 9:38am
hillbilly wrote:
Yo,any of you douches,vitards,partially vitards,dicks,haters,praisers,slim shadys, see what happened on the triple??
I'm with you hillbilly. WTF happened on the triple? Hopefully the mention of the triple is not post heat race, when they are rolling around tough talking each other.
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3/31/2014 9:49am
hillbilly wrote:
So,what happened over the triple?

Anyone see it?
droopy wrote:
this...... what happened over the triple and how has not a single person replied to this as many times as it has been mentioned?
Is there supposed to be a link here?

I no comprends,

If 51 does whip it over a triple and take someone out doing that look at this shit,

Or anyone else does it,a major beating should result,

A pass is one thing but over a jump aint cool.
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3/31/2014 11:28am
I compare Barcia to Josh Hansen. Both of them seem to prefer running people high and even initiating contact quite a bit more than they should. The difference between the two, Barcia is WAY faster and keeps his nose clean.
3/31/2014 11:37am
danman wrote:
I compare Barcia to Josh Hansen. Both of them seem to prefer running people high and even initiating contact quite a bit more than they should...
I compare Barcia to Josh Hansen. Both of them seem to prefer running people high and even initiating contact quite a bit more than they should. The difference between the two, Barcia is WAY faster and keeps his nose clean.
I don't see the comparison. Hansen was a 250f sx racer. Barcia was/is a 250f and 450f sx and mx racer.
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JeepnMike wrote:
I am glad he doesn't put up with Barcia's $hit, but man, I wish he could find some better consistency.. It is hard to take him...
I am glad he doesn't put up with Barcia's $hit, but man, I wish he could find some better consistency.. It is hard to take him serious for a better ride next year with how inconsistent he is.
Grieby54 wrote:
Barcia's pass on Peick was just fine. Peick looks like a baby by the way he complains about it. Did he see the pass for the...
Barcia's pass on Peick was just fine. Peick looks like a baby by the way he complains about it. Did he see the pass for the lead? There was more contact there.
It's not about the contact....it's about how much room you leave the guy. With that said, JS7 left RV2 TWO outside ruts/lines to take other then the inside line JS7 was already in. TWO other lines to take! the only reason there was contact was because RV2 was to cutting to the inside line BEFORE he looked to see JS7 already there. If he anticipated JS7's move there wouldn't have been ANY contact. On the flip side of that, Barcia didn't leave Weston any room at all. Weston had to kiss a tuff block. I'm sure Weston will tuck that in the back of his mind for the future.
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Most of the time, I like Barcia's aggressive riding style. The downfall of riding aggressively though is that sometimes your moves are perceived as dirty. There is a fine line between the two.

I don't necessarily think his pass on Peick was dirty, but it was kind of stupid considering they were battling for 2nd in a heat race and a matter of a few inches could have taken them both out, and lining up for the semi. As a racer, you need to be smart and know when to pick your battles.

As far as the jawing after the heat, I don't see anything wrong with it. All riders should stand up for themselves and let others know they aren't going to take any shit. Most of us would have probably said something if we were in that situation. No harm, no foul.

Keep in mind that Peick isn't on a salary like Barcia. He only gets paid based on making the mains and battling for positions. It adds a whole other level of urgency where each spot has an impact on your bank account.
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Peick wouldn't get out of the way...I was happy when Barcia pushed him high. Weston comes across like punk and its no wonder he dosnt have...
Peick wouldn't get out of the way...I was happy when Barcia pushed him high. Weston comes across like punk and its no wonder he dosnt have a real ride. The fake punch to the flagger last year was so lame. My buddy got in his way at GH a while back...He said sorry to Weston but he said Weston and his buddy were huge assholes even though he said sorry. Another weird thing about the Peicks...they posted a pic of there bike a couple weeks before the milestone SX. Then right before the race they said all the parts didn't show up and the bike wasn't ready. I posted and said..."the bike looks ready to race...why wasn't it raced" No reply. Very shaddy actions if you ask me.
CASH476 wrote:
Just to clarify, Weston should have got out Barcias way in the middle of a race, doesn't have a real ride because he is a punk...
Just to clarify, Weston should have got out Barcias way in the middle of a race, doesn't have a real ride because he is a punk, acted like an asshole to you and your buddy and his dad didn't reply to you on a message board. You have some serious issues mate!

Re the not getting a "real" ride, Barcia has done plenty of punk stuff and rides for one of the biggest terms there is.
Weston was in the way. I never said he should have got out of the way...just his blocking and holding up Barcia was asking to get a lil slam. That was an awesome pass. What Weston did after that slamming Dungey and chest bumping Barcia was EXACTLY the kind of things that will keep any factory team manager away from that guy. If you add the flagger issue last year, the kicking his bike off the stand, punking the local guys (not myself) etc you understand why no one is going to give that guy a real shot. Yes...that is unacceptable punk like behavior if your a team manager.
Regarding the no response about why the bike wasn't ready...Louie came on here and made a statement that the bike wasn't ready and it was like he was insinuating he wasn't happy w someone. It was almost like he was taking a jab. So I asked (and others did to) well the bike was posted ready 2 weeks ago. Then all of a sudden there was no more talk about it. It was probably something like the suspension wasn't ready or something...I just thought that was strange that whan I pointed out the bike sure looked ready weeks ago all of a sudden that thread went away. I have always been a fan of Peicks but lately...not so much.
But your right...I do have lots of issues.
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3/31/2014 1:32pm
JeepnMike wrote:
I am glad he doesn't put up with Barcia's $hit, but man, I wish he could find some better consistency.. It is hard to take him...
I am glad he doesn't put up with Barcia's $hit, but man, I wish he could find some better consistency.. It is hard to take him serious for a better ride next year with how inconsistent he is.
Grieby54 wrote:
Barcia's pass on Peick was just fine. Peick looks like a baby by the way he complains about it. Did he see the pass for the...
Barcia's pass on Peick was just fine. Peick looks like a baby by the way he complains about it. Did he see the pass for the lead? There was more contact there.
Motoxdoc wrote:
It's not about the contact....it's about how much room you leave the guy. With that said, JS7 left RV2 TWO outside ruts/lines to take other then...
It's not about the contact....it's about how much room you leave the guy. With that said, JS7 left RV2 TWO outside ruts/lines to take other then the inside line JS7 was already in. TWO other lines to take! the only reason there was contact was because RV2 was to cutting to the inside line BEFORE he looked to see JS7 already there. If he anticipated JS7's move there wouldn't have been ANY contact. On the flip side of that, Barcia didn't leave Weston any room at all. Weston had to kiss a tuff block. I'm sure Weston will tuck that in the back of his mind for the future.
How did Weston ride it out of Barcia didn't leave him room? Barcia had him by the throat and could have put him on the ground, yet he didn't. Weston needs to nut up.
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3/31/2014 1:37pm
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I like Peick and am a fan of all racers. But all the factory talk doesn't add up to me. I mean I wish everyone could...
I like Peick and am a fan of all racers. But all the factory talk doesn't add up to me. I mean I wish everyone could get factory support but til then I think he's right about where he belongs.
You have obviously overlooked his top five finishes and the fact he's on the lead lap now instead of being lapped. Weston has definitely stepped up his game over the last year or so.

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