Anstie v Herlings Thailand this weekend

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Edited Date/Time 3/8/2014 7:49am
They have talked the talk, who will walk the walk?

Will the former rivals renew their rivalry in 2014 now that Max is on perhaps the fastest bike in the class?

We looked at it here:Anstie v Herlings 2014
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KG171 3/7/2014 8:40am
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mccread wrote:
They have talked the talk, who will walk the walk? Will the former rivals renew their rivalry in 2014 now that Max is on perhaps the...
They have talked the talk, who will walk the walk?

Will the former rivals renew their rivalry in 2014 now that Max is on perhaps the fastest bike in the class?

We looked at it here:Anstie v Herlings 2014
Herlings will win easily
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seth505 3/7/2014 8:51am
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Usually in the interviews if people are joking around they insert a (haha) after the persons statement so I assume Ansties interview from last week was all serious. If that is the case I think it would be funny if Herlings just gets a bad start and blows by him. Also cool would be if they do a little Bradshaw/Chicken action.
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Xsenter 3/7/2014 8:52am
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I think this is a little too hyped up, just because of that Anstie interview. Anstie rode great last weekend and have a great bike, but he never been consistent so why would it be any different this season !?
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IceMan446 3/7/2014 8:54am
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Have they went to the Amsterdam round yet? Because Anstie is smoking if he thinks he will beat Herlings straight up.

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I'm basing this off of Anstie's USA performance (which wasn't all that great) and Herlings MXdN performances (which have been amazing)...but I think this rivalry is much ado about nothing...Herlings is going to own Max. Herlings seems like the type that would read Max's interview and then do everything in his power to absolutely crush and demoralize him. Herlings is a bad dude...so I feel bad for Max.
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KG171 3/7/2014 8:58am
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mccread wrote:
They have talked the talk, who will walk the walk? Will the former rivals renew their rivalry in 2014 now that Max is on perhaps the...
They have talked the talk, who will walk the walk?

Will the former rivals renew their rivalry in 2014 now that Max is on perhaps the fastest bike in the class?

We looked at it here:Anstie v Herlings 2014
"Anstie would travel to Holland at a young age to learn to ride the sand and it was there he met his rival Herlings, one and a half years younger, but already very fast. Anstie would beat the young Dutchman more often than not then but headed to America to learn supercross when he was in his early teens."

This part is not really true either.
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Robgvx 3/7/2014 9:07am
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Maybe Giuseppe bunged Max a few quid to stir up some interest in the Herlings class.
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Regis 3/7/2014 9:08am
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It's funny this is even being discussed. All because of ones words in an interview. I guess that interview was good for something.

The only thing i can see possibly happening is Herlings, in a quest to beating everyone so bad, beating himself and wrecking.
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1488 3/7/2014 9:12am
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When is Herlings going to move up and take down Cairioli?
benchracermx 3/7/2014 9:47am
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IceMan446 wrote:
Have they went to the Amsterdam round yet? Because Anstie is smoking if he thinks he will beat Herlings straight up.
Was he not beating him straight up last weekend before bike problems?
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IceMan446 3/7/2014 10:01am
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benchracermx wrote:
Was he not beating him straight up last weekend before bike problems?
Did he finish ahead of him? No. Bike problems or not.

Therefore, what makes him think he can? Herlings just barely started riding before Qatar. And will only get better.

When has Anstie EVER beat him?????
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jamma10 3/7/2014 10:10am
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benchracermx wrote:
Was he not beating him straight up last weekend before bike problems?
IceMan446 wrote:
Did he finish ahead of him? No. Bike problems or not. Therefore, what makes him think he can? Herlings just barely started riding before Qatar. And...
Did he finish ahead of him? No. Bike problems or not.

Therefore, what makes him think he can? Herlings just barely started riding before Qatar. And will only get better.

When has Anstie EVER beat him?????
I think all that talk about not being 100% was nonsense because Herlings was amazing at Hawkstone the week before, and thats a much more technical and challenging track than Qatar.

I think he just underestimated his competition and made two poor starts which made it difficult for him. The track was pretty fast and everyone was riding a similar pace.
benchracermx 3/7/2014 10:13am
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benchracermx wrote:
Was he not beating him straight up last weekend before bike problems?
IceMan446 wrote:
Did he finish ahead of him? No. Bike problems or not. Therefore, what makes him think he can? Herlings just barely started riding before Qatar. And...
Did he finish ahead of him? No. Bike problems or not.

Therefore, what makes him think he can? Herlings just barely started riding before Qatar. And will only get better.

When has Anstie EVER beat him?????
Point taken, but he certainly showed he has the speed to challenge! Whether or not he can do it consistently we will have to wait and see.
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TCOV will kick both their asses
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IceMan446 3/7/2014 10:29am
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benchracermx wrote:
Point taken, but he certainly showed he has the speed to challenge! Whether or not he can do it consistently we will have to wait and...
Point taken, but he certainly showed he has the speed to challenge! Whether or not he can do it consistently we will have to wait and see.
I do think when he gets the new Yamaha Anstie will be even better. And wont have a problem finishing the motos. Like you said, doing it consistently will be very difficult. He had some time on Herlings before the bike problems and could have won that thing but we wont ever know now.

Herlings may take a few rounds to get back to 100% but in that time, Anstie could get a lot of confidence running with him and that maybe what he needs to challenge him the rest of the season. I would love to see some competition in that class especially after last years domination.
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seth505 wrote:
Usually in the interviews if people are joking around they insert a (haha) after the persons statement so I assume Ansties interview from last week was...
Usually in the interviews if people are joking around they insert a (haha) after the persons statement so I assume Ansties interview from last week was all serious. If that is the case I think it would be funny if Herlings just gets a bad start and blows by him. Also cool would be if they do a little Bradshaw/Chicken action.
Why are you belittling a racer with confidence? And if herlings is planning on kicking his ass, Max is already in his head
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DonM 3/7/2014 10:54am
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IceMan446 wrote:
I do think when he gets the new Yamaha Anstie will be even better. And wont have a problem finishing the motos. Like you said, doing...
I do think when he gets the new Yamaha Anstie will be even better. And wont have a problem finishing the motos. Like you said, doing it consistently will be very difficult. He had some time on Herlings before the bike problems and could have won that thing but we wont ever know now.

Herlings may take a few rounds to get back to 100% but in that time, Anstie could get a lot of confidence running with him and that maybe what he needs to challenge him the rest of the season. I would love to see some competition in that class especially after last years domination.
They have the new bike, they chose to ride the 13
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IceMan446 3/7/2014 10:58am
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DonM wrote:
They have the new bike, they chose to ride the 13
Did they?

I thought they didn't have enough testing done on it before Qatar, but would be riding the '14 for Thailand?

Well hopefully the '13 holds up if that's what he is riding.

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THE mx addict 3/7/2014 11:03am
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Sorry, but it seems that somebody forgot to count guys like Febvre, Ferrandis, Tixier or Charlier...

There's a life outside Herlings and Anstie...

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DonM 3/7/2014 11:05am
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DonM wrote:
They have the new bike, they chose to ride the 13
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Did they? I thought they didn't have enough testing done on it before Qatar, but would be riding the '14 for Thailand? Well hopefully the '13...
Did they?

I thought they didn't have enough testing done on it before Qatar, but would be riding the '14 for Thailand?

Well hopefully the '13 holds up if that's what he is riding.
The 13 is what they put on the plane. I was surprised when I saw what Dixson said about the testing...How do you not have enough time to test a new model at that level? The guys in the US have had them since the fall and have been racing them with no issues since A1. Something's not right in that statement.
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Lamecake 3/7/2014 11:08am
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The Tailand track layout and soil will make this a very easy win for Herlings. Even if he isn't feeling 100% and/or if he has 2 bad starts. But anyways, there will be some good racing! Smile
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48dirtbikekid 3/7/2014 11:11am
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Xsenter wrote:
I think this is a little too hyped up, just because of that Anstie interview. Anstie rode great last weekend and have a great bike, but...
I think this is a little too hyped up, just because of that Anstie interview. Anstie rode great last weekend and have a great bike, but he never been consistent so why would it be any different this season !?
Same exact thing I thought, Anstie is a bad dude on a bike no doubt but he beat Herlings in the 85cc class in the early 2000's. Hasn't really been near him since, that'd be like Mike Alessi saying Daytona is his style track and he's going to dust RV. He'd get laughed at!
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Forecast is 90 F (32c) with 58 percent humidity. in other words, a cool summer day in Alabama.
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Xsenter 3/7/2014 12:15pm
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The rest of the team is riding with 2014 bikes. Max also has a 2014 bike with him...at least a -14 with his number.

But I guess the -14 motor isn't quite up to par with that amazing 13 cosworth motor yet.

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Xsenter 3/7/2014 12:22pm
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Team owner Steve Dixons own words:

“Yes it was the 2013 bike - Why? because we have a good set up for these races and did not want to rush the 2014 till it is fully tested, but the potential is higher with the 2014, the standard Yam 2014 is fantastic and such a high base that a lot has to be done to get it considerably better. We have it ready but just need more time on the mapping and data side.
We only decided on the Sunday of Hawkstone to miss it and go test the 2013, then he loved the engine power and we did two days testing on suspension and the took the bike on the plane!
Read more at http://moto.mpora.com/news/steve-dixon-explains-why-max-raced-2013-yama…
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confidence is half the battle
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PressPassP 3/7/2014 1:18pm
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Herlings isn't anywhere near 100% yet and the Qatar track didn't do him any great favours either,if Max was going to beat him I think he's pretty much had his best chance

Fair play to Max,he was out there leading and arguably had both Motos in the bag,that track suited him,his US experience helped him no doubt,as he was the only one who hucked that massive Quad FFS!
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jamma10 3/8/2014 2:02am
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Ferrandis just beat Herlings again in the Qualifying race.
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jamma10 3/8/2014 2:06am
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Oh Covington must have crashed or had an issue as he was running with Charlier around 18th last time I checked.

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pmcc 3/8/2014 2:12am
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Oh Covington must have crashed or had an issue as he was running with Charlier around 18th last time I checked. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/03/08/47711/s1200_Results.jpg[/img]
Oh Covington must have crashed or had an issue as he was running with Charlier around 18th last time I checked.

The talent in the top 20 is ridiculous Woohoo if any of those guys start at the front they can run the pace

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