Jumping

peelout wrote:

you just gotta rev that sucker, you gotta rev that sucker right over that triple jump

thank ya very much

StartedTooLate wrote:

The correct standing jumping position is not forward. It is not back. It is not central. It is IN BALANCE. It changes constantly. To learn to...

The correct standing jumping position is not forward. It is not back. It is not central. It is IN BALANCE. It changes constantly. To learn to jump safely you have to first learn to ride in balance...so that your arms are relaxed, no push or pull on the bars. Can you ride around a fast turn track, standing all the way, holding on the grips so lightly..as if they were eggshells? If you can not ride like this, you should not be jumping. If you can ride like this, you would not be asking this question.

Once you understand basic body position balancing, it is easiest to learn basic jumps with moderate throttle, and your body forward such that your forward lean perfectly balances the acceleration due to your moderate throttle...ie IN BALANCE....which at this point, should be automatic to you.

Seated jumps are harder because your body position options are less. This means your throttle control is very critical. To much...you loop out. Too little...you go over the bars. The secret to seated jumps is your right hand.

If you ever have to ask about how to whip or scrub, you should not be thinking about whipping or scrubbing. If your goal is to look cool for your Bros... then please ignore this advice.

jndmx wrote:

You should never stand up when jumping.....why do you think they put the seat on that thing?

SEE ARE125 wrote:

Get your ass as far back as you can get it with your head almost directly over the bars. This will vary with your height. Elbows...

Get your ass as far back as you can get it with your head almost directly over the bars. This will vary with your height. Elbows down. Then just twist your right hand and give 'er a gallon. Whilst in the air, flail one foot around and violently jerk your head as if to look over your shoulder in the same direction as the flailing foot. Congratulations, you just threw a fat whip, bro.





Below is a photo of proper jumping technique.

SEE ARE125 wrote:

Get your ass as far back as you can get it with your head almost directly over the bars. This will vary with your height. Elbows...

Get your ass as far back as you can get it with your head almost directly over the bars. This will vary with your height. Elbows down. Then just twist your right hand and give 'er a gallon. Whilst in the air, flail one foot around and violently jerk your head as if to look over your shoulder in the same direction as the flailing foot. Congratulations, you just threw a fat whip, bro.





Below is a photo of proper jumping technique.

lostboy819 wrote:

StartedTooLate wrote:

The correct standing jumping position is not forward. It is not back. It is not central. It is IN BALANCE. It changes constantly. To learn to...

The correct standing jumping position is not forward. It is not back. It is not central. It is IN BALANCE. It changes constantly. To learn to jump safely you have to first learn to ride in balance...so that your arms are relaxed, no push or pull on the bars. Can you ride around a fast turn track, standing all the way, holding on the grips so lightly..as if they were eggshells? If you can not ride like this, you should not be jumping. If you can ride like this, you would not be asking this question.

Once you understand basic body position balancing, it is easiest to learn basic jumps with moderate throttle, and your body forward such that your forward lean perfectly balances the acceleration due to your moderate throttle...ie IN BALANCE....which at this point, should be automatic to you.

Seated jumps are harder because your body position options are less. This means your throttle control is very critical. To much...you loop out. Too little...you go over the bars. The secret to seated jumps is your right hand.

If you ever have to ask about how to whip or scrub, you should not be thinking about whipping or scrubbing. If your goal is to look cool for your Bros... then please ignore this advice.

mx836 wrote:

Eggshells? I didn't know anybody could ride without even holding onto the bars.

StartedTooLate wrote:

The correct standing jumping position is not forward. It is not back. It is not central. It is IN BALANCE. It changes constantly. To learn to...

The correct standing jumping position is not forward. It is not back. It is not central. It is IN BALANCE. It changes constantly. To learn to jump safely you have to first learn to ride in balance...so that your arms are relaxed, no push or pull on the bars. Can you ride around a fast turn track, standing all the way, holding on the grips so lightly..as if they were eggshells? If you can not ride like this, you should not be jumping. If you can ride like this, you would not be asking this question.

Once you understand basic body position balancing, it is easiest to learn basic jumps with moderate throttle, and your body forward such that your forward lean perfectly balances the acceleration due to your moderate throttle...ie IN BALANCE....which at this point, should be automatic to you.

Seated jumps are harder because your body position options are less. This means your throttle control is very critical. To much...you loop out. Too little...you go over the bars. The secret to seated jumps is your right hand.

If you ever have to ask about how to whip or scrub, you should not be thinking about whipping or scrubbing. If your goal is to look cool for your Bros... then please ignore this advice.

mx836 wrote:

Eggshells? I didn't know anybody could ride without even holding onto the bars.

StartedTooLate wrote:

I did not say take your hands off the bars...I said try to ride with a super light grip. If you are accelerating and having to...

I did not say take your hands off the bars...I said try to ride with a super light grip. If you are accelerating and having to hold onto the bars by gripping and using your arms...you are out of position. If you are decelerating, and pushing on the bars, you are out of position. Your hands provide a great feedback device. If you load into a jump face in a balanced state, the bike will track very true. This holds true whether you are pinned (you have to be very forward to be in balance), neutral (middle position) or braking (rearward position). If you hand and arms are very relaxed as you load into the jump face...90% of the battle is won as fire as jumping in control.

Go out to a local track...and you will find the A riders go fast enough to clear everything. They are all trying to jump less/lower so they can go faste and not OJ. They may be absorbing, or scrubbing. In either case, they will often let off the throttle about 5' before the front tire loads into a face. If you watch carefully, they will also shift their position on the bike back as they let off. This is because they have automatically ingrained this dynamic balance. If they were to stay forward..in the position the were when they were really on it...they would go dangerously nose low...

This approach works...

peelout wrote:

you just gotta rev that sucker, you gotta rev that sucker right over that triple jump

thank ya very much

Moens_Andy wrote:

there is a huge difference in seat bouncing and sitting down on a face of a jump. The picture you showed from Stewart is actually not...

there is a huge difference in seat bouncing and sitting down on a face of a jump.
The picture you showed from Stewart is actually not a sit down take off he was standing up in the face of the jump and shifting weight forward and closer to the seat as he approached the lip of the jump, this is to stay lower and not to go sky-high out on steep jumps.
off course you have to consider they will also push down with there upper body.

if your starting with this kind of technic start of SLOW and SMALL no steep jumps and never ever sit on your gastank to jump
BALANCE is the key

once you get the feel for it on regular jumps find a double jump or a table top just behind a corner that you have a hard time jumping over and start seat bouncing

in stead of standing up stay on you r seat and get your ass somewhere 3/4 backwards on your seat and lean backwards as hard as you can remember that you will have to pull slightly with your arms also.
KEY to this is that you will need to stand up as your suspension is coming out of the stroke. Do not stay on your seat as it will flip you over the bars in a second.

SLOW = SMOOTH
SMOOTH = FAST

hope this gets you a step forward

GeorgiePorgie wrote:

Just keep riding man. Start small, get bigger. Don't rush it. Before you know it, your gut will be telling you if you're going to make...

Just keep riding man. Start small, get bigger. Don't rush it. Before you know it, your gut will be telling you if you're going to make a blind jump before you even leave the face.

Gary Semics has some awesome videos, you should check those out for basic riding techniques. Gary's the man.


Why does everyone immediately have to be a dick to people asking legit questions.....? I can see trying to be funny/smartassed sometimes or when it's warranted by a moronic post, but every thread is riddled with assholes! Give the guy a break.....

IWreckALot wrote:

Well to be fair, it does seem rather trollish what the guys asked. He went from saying that he doesn't ride much to asking how to...

Well to be fair, it does seem rather trollish what the guys asked. He went from saying that he doesn't ride much to asking how to jump like pros. Maybe he poorly worded his post.

It's funny. I started riding in December of 2007 on an 08 TTR230. I went across the street to build a "jump" which was a little shin buster. I remember thinking I was getting about 8' of air until my roommate at the time recorded me. Then I realized I looked like a little bitch. Then you see these guys hucking 80-100' jumps in the nationals and you just wonder what the hell they're doing differently.

I know speed is made in the corners but you have the most fun when you're in the air.

suzuki173 wrote:

So you're saying people who don't get to ride often ON THE TRACK should just figure it out on their own instead of asking for advice...

So you're saying people who don't get to ride often ON THE TRACK should just figure it out on their own instead of asking for advice? I'm sure it would be better to continue jumping however you feel instead of trying to figure out the multiple correct techniques pros use...