Rememeber those Butler-Bros/BTO/KTM's for sale?

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Edited Date/Time 12/20/2013 10:49pm
Well, I rode mine today...

It's set-up sooooo nicely. The Ergos , the Mapping (Beeeeeautiful Bottom-end TORQUE) & all the Orange stuff.

Like I'd commented previously: It's put together by some of the best pro-mechanics in the Biz. My bike was built by JR Boyd. His position is a lot like that of a "Crew-Chief" in NASCAR: He's responsible for managing the "Day to Day" bike testing, maintenance and building for the whole team. The testing shows in these bikes. The Throttle-Response is a-helluva-lot "snappier" than the '14 I rode at the Debut-Demo. It's currently running on VP's MRX02 and it LIKES it. A friend that's a very accomplished Enduro-X rider rode it and thought it had A LOT of bottom-end...I never told him I'm running the SPARK ARRESTOR (Loud is STUPID when you're trying to keep a "Secret Riding Area" ...well...SECRET!).

My bike has a "Burner" National Motor in it (Michael Byrne) that has a few motos on it and sounds like it's pretty damn happy. The Clutch? It's got the "good-spring" in it. Cam-wise & all that: It's a KTM Service Motor. Uh, yeah...about that...Seems to me KTM is Ubber-Focused on USABLE POWER. Well, they've nailed it. The gear box on the SXF seems A LOT like the 4-speed in the '06 KXF's ...except with a nice long 5th; so, I guess I'm saying it's a 4 speed + Over-Drive type of feeling.

Power-Defined: Take a 13-14 KX450F. Bump the compression UP. Cam it for even MORE Torque. Change it to the Black-Plug (Mellower "hit") and be sure to run race-fuel. That's what this KTM runs like...and as Hard or Calmly as you twist the right grip. This thing rips AND it's Super-USABLE. It really is sooooo much "snappier" than a stocker.

It runs an FMF pipe w/ RCT4.1 Carbon-Cap silencer and Mega-Bomb header. The silencer is freshly-rebuilt & is the same as what you'd get if you bought one off the shelf; but, it's got a used muffler that's well taken care of.

The Frame is Freshly Powder-Coated in that Factory-Orange that all you Katoomers love soooo much; and, YES! It looks nice. The Sub-Frame has no wear-n-tear showing. The Swing-Arm looks brand-new. Plastic is fresh w/ Team Graphics (Burner 26) & New Team seat-cover. All applied like it's going to be raced at A-1. Bars are black ODI as are the grips (fresh-white): Both get high-marks. I like the bend and I love the grips. Levers are fresh stockers. Cable routing and lines are routed like someone cares how things work. Raptor Ti pegs work really well in the clay-mud, I know...we had plenty of snotty mud to ride in today (Along with some AWESOME sand!).

I -REALLY- like the Attention to Detail on this Scooter! I think that's obvious.

Suspension consists of Fresh-Stock components ('14 on this bike) as are the wheels and tires. All of which looks like you just bought a Brand New bike. Btw, MX51s on Excels w/ stock polished hubs and black spokes. This "sock-stuff" to work just fine. Chain (RK Gold) and Sprockets (Orange-Talon-rear) are Fresh , too. Looks like it's got a new battery, too.

About the Brand-New bike, look. This thing is BETTER LOOKING than a new stock KTM. Period. It runs like it's mad at RV and it wants you catch his ass! It's put together with the benefit of Andrew, Matt & Michael's input. It's assembled by guys that are paid to do a really good job for those afore-mentioned riders; and, it shows in these bikes.

I -REALLY- like the Attention to Detail on this Scooter! I think that's obvious.

What's "missing"? O.K., let's got that route...the Orange Talon-hubs and Black Rims (Dubya). The WP Big forks and Mega-Clicker shock. The Titanium bolts and Nuts that're all over the race bikes. That's pretty much all that's NOT there.

The team sells these bikes for $8500. Getting a freshened-up Pro-Built bike with a KTM Service Motor for $8500? I'm thinking that a smart up-n-coming Pro is actually who should be buying these bikes!

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12/19/2013 10:23pm


Bike semi-cleaned after a day of rain riding



The 1st one of these bikes I saw that got me realizing how nice the "parts list" is.
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12/19/2013 10:38pm
So jealous!!!! Have fun riding that!!! Looks so good.
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12/19/2013 10:46pm
I'm jealous! I love the look of the newer Ktm plastics, just wish they would get rid of the butt crack fender!
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12/20/2013 1:18am
Sweet ride....there's something to be said for buying bikes from teams at the end of the year. Yeah, some guys are going to complain and say crap about it like....who would want one of those, they're all clapped out and have been trashed? But what those people do not realize is despite how hard those have been ridden, they're like brand new before almost every race, and the parts you get with are sometimes unobtainable, or REALLY damn cool. Congrats brotha....that thing is friggin SWEET!!!!!.

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12/20/2013 3:07am
Drool.. Nice bike Manny! If I were looking for a new. 450 I would have snagged one of these too.
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12/20/2013 3:44am
Love it . Nicely written .
How about some riding pics!
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12/20/2013 4:38am
how much was it?
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12/20/2013 6:11am
ITs not a bad deal at all for that bike. BTW if you ever tear down your wheels, you will be blown away how light those stock KTM hubs are. You can save a lot of money by having what you got anodized. I have my 13' excels and KTM hubs coming in the mail anodized to my liking for the amount of $148.00 by Colors Inc.

Sweet bike!
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12/20/2013 6:28am
I think someone just auditioned for the product tester gig with this post.

Mine will be incoming tomorrow Smile
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12/20/2013 7:27am
Dang...reading your review made me WANT ONE like nobody's business! I'm not fast enough...by a long shot, anymore (if I ever was) to justify or make good use of all that goodness...but I'd sure love a chance to ride a bike that was set-up right.

Congrats.
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12/20/2013 7:39am
Bad ass man! I really want to ride a new Ktm 450.....I am a tried and true Kawi man but when I get my next 450 I will be looking really hard at the Dungey Replica (or BTO) bike as well as a Kawi.
12/20/2013 7:56am
Very nice team green! Is that fuel much diffrent from the u4.4? Price compared to the u4.4? Congrats! Very nice!
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12/20/2013 8:25am
Q&A? Nice!

Price: $8500

Fuel: This Fuel, MRX02, was developed for Hi-Perf 2 & 4 strokes w/ input from a certain engine-builder (Mitch: I call it Mitch's gas!). HOWEVER, as far as "Bang for the Buck"? T4 and U4.4 are amazing. I'd say this fuel may make more power than U4.4; but, throttle response should be IDENTICAL. MRX02 has to cost more; but, I'd check at your local shop to be sure.

Ano'd Stock Hubs: I'm going to do that & add DID STX's; Also, gonna take a stab at our own Carbon/Al/ hubs w/ the help of RAD in Utah...I think...

Trying out for Product Tester? Good point. I probably should have taken MUCH BETTER pictures!
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12/20/2013 9:03am Edited Date/Time 12/20/2013 9:06am
Excellent post. I love these type of real world reviews. Now is this a one time deal? I'm close to a new bike and was thinking of a slightly pro built bike for what may be my final bike.
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12/20/2013 9:09am
TeamGreen wrote:
Q&A? Nice! Price: $8500 Fuel: This Fuel, MRX02, was developed for Hi-Perf 2 & 4 strokes w/ input from a certain engine-builder (Mitch: I call it...
Q&A? Nice!

Price: $8500

Fuel: This Fuel, MRX02, was developed for Hi-Perf 2 & 4 strokes w/ input from a certain engine-builder (Mitch: I call it Mitch's gas!). HOWEVER, as far as "Bang for the Buck"? T4 and U4.4 are amazing. I'd say this fuel may make more power than U4.4; but, throttle response should be IDENTICAL. MRX02 has to cost more; but, I'd check at your local shop to be sure.

Ano'd Stock Hubs: I'm going to do that & add DID STX's; Also, gonna take a stab at our own Carbon/Al/ hubs w/ the help of RAD in Utah...I think...

Trying out for Product Tester? Good point. I probably should have taken MUCH BETTER pictures!
its been a few months since ive cruised Vital, but didn't you (maybe and your son) have a Kawasaki thing going on? I remember seeing lots of Kawi's in your set up. Permanent change up?
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12/20/2013 9:19am
TeamGreen wrote:
Q&A? Nice! Price: $8500 Fuel: This Fuel, MRX02, was developed for Hi-Perf 2 & 4 strokes w/ input from a certain engine-builder (Mitch: I call it...
Q&A? Nice!

Price: $8500

Fuel: This Fuel, MRX02, was developed for Hi-Perf 2 & 4 strokes w/ input from a certain engine-builder (Mitch: I call it Mitch's gas!). HOWEVER, as far as "Bang for the Buck"? T4 and U4.4 are amazing. I'd say this fuel may make more power than U4.4; but, throttle response should be IDENTICAL. MRX02 has to cost more; but, I'd check at your local shop to be sure.

Ano'd Stock Hubs: I'm going to do that & add DID STX's; Also, gonna take a stab at our own Carbon/Al/ hubs w/ the help of RAD in Utah...I think...

Trying out for Product Tester? Good point. I probably should have taken MUCH BETTER pictures!
pitbike502 wrote:
its been a few months since ive cruised Vital, but didn't you (maybe and your son) have a Kawasaki thing going on? I remember seeing lots...
its been a few months since ive cruised Vital, but didn't you (maybe and your son) have a Kawasaki thing going on? I remember seeing lots of Kawi's in your set up. Permanent change up?
I ride all of it. Honda X's I the Dez. KX450F these last few months.

I went and got this bike because I'm around them, a lot, and I'm impressed with who seems to really like the bike (Andrew) & the obvious value of the bike as BTO equips & sells it.

No son. Just a very cute 6 year old Daughter!

I'll be working YZ250Fs and CRF450Rs really soon, too!
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FLmxer wrote:
Excellent post. I love these type of real world reviews. Now is this a one time deal? I'm close to a new bike and was thinking...
Excellent post. I love these type of real world reviews. Now is this a one time deal? I'm close to a new bike and was thinking of a slightly pro built bike for what may be my final bike.
I'll ask. I'm thinking they'll have a few 14's towards the end of SX...maybe? (speculation)
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12/20/2013 9:44am
SOMEBODY'S trying to get a leg up on the product tester gig........

Edit: A little late it looks like. Someone beat me to it.
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12/20/2013 11:16am Edited Date/Time 9/1/2026 6:11pm
Nice review, thanks for that.
12/20/2013 12:33pm
really digging the orange matrix stand Cool
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12/20/2013 1:41pm
TeamGreen wrote:
Q&A? Nice! Price: $8500 Fuel: This Fuel, MRX02, was developed for Hi-Perf 2 & 4 strokes w/ input from a certain engine-builder (Mitch: I call it...
Q&A? Nice!

Price: $8500

Fuel: This Fuel, MRX02, was developed for Hi-Perf 2 & 4 strokes w/ input from a certain engine-builder (Mitch: I call it Mitch's gas!). HOWEVER, as far as "Bang for the Buck"? T4 and U4.4 are amazing. I'd say this fuel may make more power than U4.4; but, throttle response should be IDENTICAL. MRX02 has to cost more; but, I'd check at your local shop to be sure.

Ano'd Stock Hubs: I'm going to do that & add DID STX's; Also, gonna take a stab at our own Carbon/Al/ hubs w/ the help of RAD in Utah...I think...

Trying out for Product Tester? Good point. I probably should have taken MUCH BETTER pictures!
pitbike502 wrote:
its been a few months since ive cruised Vital, but didn't you (maybe and your son) have a Kawasaki thing going on? I remember seeing lots...
its been a few months since ive cruised Vital, but didn't you (maybe and your son) have a Kawasaki thing going on? I remember seeing lots of Kawi's in your set up. Permanent change up?
TeamGreen wrote:
I ride all of it. Honda X's I the Dez. KX450F these last few months. I went and got this bike because I'm around them, a...
I ride all of it. Honda X's I the Dez. KX450F these last few months.

I went and got this bike because I'm around them, a lot, and I'm impressed with who seems to really like the bike (Andrew) & the obvious value of the bike as BTO equips & sells it.

No son. Just a very cute 6 year old Daughter!

I'll be working YZ250Fs and CRF450Rs really soon, too!
So if you're not a die hard Kawi guy, what's the TeamGreen name represent?
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12/20/2013 1:44pm
Way cool bike and a bargain at that price.
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12/20/2013 10:49pm
pitbike502 wrote:
its been a few months since ive cruised Vital, but didn't you (maybe and your son) have a Kawasaki thing going on? I remember seeing lots...
its been a few months since ive cruised Vital, but didn't you (maybe and your son) have a Kawasaki thing going on? I remember seeing lots of Kawi's in your set up. Permanent change up?
TeamGreen wrote:
I ride all of it. Honda X's I the Dez. KX450F these last few months. I went and got this bike because I'm around them, a...
I ride all of it. Honda X's I the Dez. KX450F these last few months.

I went and got this bike because I'm around them, a lot, and I'm impressed with who seems to really like the bike (Andrew) & the obvious value of the bike as BTO equips & sells it.

No son. Just a very cute 6 year old Daughter!

I'll be working YZ250Fs and CRF450Rs really soon, too!
So if you're not a die hard Kawi guy, what's the TeamGreen name represent?
I was a Team Green rider waaaaaay back (The year that the Am's went to Loretta's for the 1st time...ever. A guy named "Big Dave" drove the tractor & made the track: Good Times!) and even revisited some Team Green off-road racing in the '90s. Did a stint in the "CR Support Program" and even rode some REALLY nice Honda "kit" from late '82-'86; but, since then...seems every-time I get back on a Moto-Scoot, it's green. Got on-board a KX450 when they came out. Built really nice '06-'08's. Sponsored/Managed a Pro-Racer thru SX in 2008: Kawasaki. Send riders to the X-Games? Usually Kawasaki.

Then I got dragged down to Baja in 2009. Took a Kawi...only that 1st year. I learned from Johnny Campbell that you need a Honda down there...if ya want any "Real" support. Now I've got a shop full of Honda "X's". Then, in 2010 I rode a KTM test bike @ Mammoth that Tortelli had sorted out: LOVED IT! But, still, I was on some really nice Kawasakis. Then I took a break from riding Moto in 2010 and focused on Baja/Off-Road (All Hondas).

Over the last few years of involvement with Supercross and Motocross, the KTM's have really impressed me. Notably, Mookie and Musquins 250s at Washougal in 2011. Not to mention the Warp-speed development of their 450! So...over the last few years...I've been riding EVERYTHING and putting in plenty of laps on KTMs. I've watched KTM develop an amazing race support program and truly dig the way they support SO MANY TEAMS with top-shelf parts and...again...real "Factory-level-Support".

Compounding all of this is the fact that some (read: A LOT) of my favorite people in this sport have switched over to Orange and are truly happy with the bikes.

So, it was time. Time to try the Orange-Brigade; and, I am REALLY impressed.

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