Moto XXX "banned" already!

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12/3/2013 12:45am
Jesus Christ there are some real Debbie downers in this thread.
12/3/2013 1:15am
jeffro503 wrote:
Jesus Christ there are some real Debbie downers in this thread.
Wasn't trying to be a debbie downer just pointing out the irony of team thats supposed to buck the system and be politically incorrect come out and post some mushy bleeding heart liberal lets please everybody crap.

I thought it was funny. They already sold out to the man...
12/3/2013 2:27am Edited Date/Time 12/3/2013 2:32am
The subject matter of the ad doesn't bother me in the least.

I am glad that MotoXXX existed. They were what the sport needed, and they personified a genre that previously had received zero exposure.

But I agree that it seems as though there is some "trying too hard" going on. I realize that Jordan is punk through and through and not some black sock wearing poser, and I like all of the bands he has been in over the years, but there is nothing punk about the tactics and direction of the relaunch. PBR motoxxx shirts? I say this with all earned respect but you guys are better than that! Your list of riders is so very impressive, and you did do so much more for our sport than 99% of the teams that have ever existed. What you need to do is embrace the heritage that motoXXX has, not just make some buster ass tshirts that lame kids would wear.

I respect what MotoXXX was the first trip around, now it just seems like a tshirt outlet for 909 flatbillers.

For what it's worth, I am 31, former pro, aviation professional who loves punk and bucking the trends.
(Off topic, Jordan check out "A Band Called Death"... you'll like it.
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12/3/2013 2:42am
I miss Moto XXX. I also miss Planet Honda, Plano Honda, and Honda of Troy. Moto XXX always seemed to be the most laid back in the pits. Like they were there just to give a pathway for the racers to race. Almost like they had high expectations for their riders, but at the same time put fun above everything no matter what.

It sucks that teams leave sometimes. I'm sure that 98% of us would be super stoked to have a Moto XXX Semi back in the pits. I'm down for buying a T-shirt cause I get as nostalgic as anyone, but how many t-shirts are you gonna need to get a team together man? Don't get me wrong It's rad you're making this stuff available to the public. I was just wondering if there was a plan or a dollar goal you're trying to meet?

Like for instance a group I like (Grouch and Eligh) are having a kickstarter for their upcoming album and they're goal is 50k. Is there a goal for Moto XXX? Not trying to get all in your business jus wonderin.

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12/3/2013 2:45am
There is no such thing as bad publicity but I don't think most of the people here are your target.
Some nostalgia yes, but we are not kids anymore.
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12/3/2013 3:27am
The add was banned because of the term "Merry X-Mas" , pisses off the Obama types... Just sayin... Blink
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12/3/2013 4:17am
I always liked the motoxxx graphics of the early 00's. I had some on a 99 kx125 and 01 yz250f.

Not my bike
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12/3/2013 5:15am
In my opinion MotoXXX should get back to their roots.

MAKE FILMS.

PUT OUT NEW CONTENT.

Obviously that can't be funded by DVD sales anymore, but in my head, Moto XXX was a kick ass video series. So bring that spirit to the internet. Make it relevant. Make something new!

Imagine how many views a MotoXXX film or 'edit' (I hate that term) of Jlaw riding in the hills would get? Not to mention the message board melt downs.

What about some fresher blood? Is there an aspiring 18 year old Seth Enslow out there? Build a crew again.

In my head, it was the videos that sold Moto XXX to me and 15 years later with video content the currency of the internet, the only MotoXXX video I've seen was a retrospective edit. Which is fine, but as an old fan, I want to see some fresh goods. Nostalgia will only go so far.
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12/3/2013 5:46am Edited Date/Time 12/3/2013 5:50am
Serious questions here. Why did the brand fall off the map in the last 10 or so years and what is different about this relaunch from where the company was when it faded away?

Certainly you will capture some of the nostalgic crowd but that won't sustain you. You need to reinvent, not just re-package and re-stock. Most of your core audience from the 90's wouldn't wear that stuff anymore and I'm not sure the new generation "gets it" like we did 15 plus years ago so who are you targeting? It's not that no one appreciates what you did for the industry or is disrespecting you, it's because we're all grown up with kids and careers of our own. Back when you were at your peak I had MC earrings, bleached hair, six pack abs and an attitude. Fast forward to today and I have no earrings, no hair, no abs, a wife, 2 kids and a business. "Punk Rock" was the cool thing back then because it was new, hardcore and "unique just like everyone else". I'm not sure it's the same today.

I'm sure there is a way to reintroduce your brand to the market but your current approach might need some tweaking.

That's my .02 but I could be totally wrong so take it with a grain of salt. Good luck either way.
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12/3/2013 6:07am
If people are bitching and complaining...then you are obviously doing something right. Keep up the great work and make the comeback even more punk rock than before, if that's even possible.
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12/3/2013 6:08am
The funny this is..is that you even remember "Were fucking back bitches" Obviously proved to be more memorable then "Hi everyone, its Moto XXX and golly...
The funny this is..is that you even remember "Were fucking back bitches" Obviously proved to be more memorable then "Hi everyone, its Moto XXX and golly gee, we are back" As for J-Law...haha. As for Hi Torque...i grew up reading MXA, it was my favorite magazine as a kid. Jimmy Mac rules!!!
I take it the "any press is good press" moto is what you're after? For me, it confirmed what I already thought, MotoXXX is as flat-blling bro-tarded as I remembered.

I think your ad is retarded and so is your whole company's MO. I'm sure the 13 year olds think your shit is super, but anyone who has any money to spend won't be buying your T-Shirts? or whatever it is that you're selling.
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12/3/2013 6:12am
It's the wussifucation of liberal America that's been forced upon us. Everyone's a bully, everyone's entitled, every gets a trophy & everyone's a winner!! People aren't tough these days. Shit, I'm only 34 & it's completely different now than it was when I was younger. Dizzy
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12/3/2013 6:14am
You guys are probably the same people that find Family Guy offensive.
12/3/2013 6:27am
Cancerman wrote:
I don't think the word "Bastards" is the concern by the media. It's most likely the violence aspect. In this age of bullying and school shootings...
I don't think the word "Bastards" is the concern by the media. It's most likely the violence aspect. In this age of bullying and school shootings, etc, they don't want to be seen as promoting that kind of behavior. I know it's just in jest, but the media gets beat up all the time about the sport being "Family oriented" and all. JMHO Whistling
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this from someone NOT an Obama loving yuppie!
When I see someone try to come off all "hard" and rebellious or "against the grain" or however you want to term it....all I see is a person with a Nepolian complex trying to get respect through fear.
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12/3/2013 7:13am
If I was a magazine editor, I'd pass on that ad too.
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12/3/2013 7:50am
Please don't tell us you are getting business management advice from LocDawg!
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12/3/2013 8:33am Edited Date/Time 12/3/2013 8:40am
i liked it and i still like the Moto XXX ideas (maybe not for every mag). fuck the PR induced state of motocross and all the dorks that get pissed when RV says he'll trade a shitty Tundra for a Raptor. why the fuck does everyone have to conform?

Right on Jordan! do your thing!

and fuck yeah, JLaw!
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12/3/2013 8:36am
Hey, it'll probably reach the people you're trying to reach, especially with it being "banned" ( Huh a bit of a stretch ), and you don't care about the people you're not trying to reach. So, there you go.
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12/3/2013 8:49am Edited Date/Time 12/3/2013 8:50am
It's my opinion that companies like Metal Mulisha and Moto XXX make our sport look like a side show circus more than a professional racing event when they make ads like this. (Remember the POACHED ads from Metal Mulisha? Cringe.) The DGAF attitudes bro lifestyle is truly the skid mark on the underpants of the motocross industry. We want our sport to be taken seriously like Moto GP, Formula 1, or even similar to NASCAR, but this crap right here contributes to the circus act that a lot of the world sees it as. Bash my opinion if you'd like, I really don't care. I don't think it's as distasteful as it is immature and stupid.
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12/3/2013 8:52am Edited Date/Time 12/3/2013 8:55am
Huevos wrote:
It's my opinion that companies like Metal Mulisha and Moto XXX make our sport look like a side show circus more than a professional racing event...
It's my opinion that companies like Metal Mulisha and Moto XXX make our sport look like a side show circus more than a professional racing event when they make ads like this. (Remember the POACHED ads from Metal Mulisha? Cringe.) The DGAF attitudes bro lifestyle is truly the skid mark on the underpants of the motocross industry. We want our sport to be taken seriously like Moto GP, Formula 1, or even similar to NASCAR, but this crap right here contributes to the circus act that a lot of the world sees it as. Bash my opinion if you'd like, I really don't care. I don't think it's as distasteful as it is immature and stupid.
Feld does an even better job at making it look like a circus...
Not surprising though.

We need companies like motoxxx in this sport to try and grab some of the younger kids who think they're "hardcore". I think the mire people in the sport the better.
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12/3/2013 8:56am
Huevos wrote:
It's my opinion that companies like Metal Mulisha and Moto XXX make our sport look like a side show circus more than a professional racing event...
It's my opinion that companies like Metal Mulisha and Moto XXX make our sport look like a side show circus more than a professional racing event when they make ads like this. (Remember the POACHED ads from Metal Mulisha? Cringe.) The DGAF attitudes bro lifestyle is truly the skid mark on the underpants of the motocross industry. We want our sport to be taken seriously like Moto GP, Formula 1, or even similar to NASCAR, but this crap right here contributes to the circus act that a lot of the world sees it as. Bash my opinion if you'd like, I really don't care. I don't think it's as distasteful as it is immature and stupid.
I the think the vast majority of people who don't know moto don't make any connection at all or pay attention long enough to make a judgment about the sport based on being offended by something like this. It's that far off the radar.

It's not my cup of tea (same with the Mulisha), but meh? Not something to get diaper rash over, even if the OP's banned/rebel vibe is a little hysterical.
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12/3/2013 9:10am
Here is what was set to be our first ad campaign in the major moto mags in over 10 years for the holiday issues. Unfortunately, no...
Here is what was set to be our first ad campaign in the major moto mags in over 10 years for the holiday issues. Unfortunately, no one had the balls to to run it as we were told "its to distasteful to print" and it was denied everywhere. What, like there is something wrong with beating the crap out of Santa so you make sure you get what you want for the holidays? I mean, no "real" Santa's were harmed in the making of this ad just to ease everyone's mind. I think the ad came out awesome. Pay a visit to www.motoxxx.com to pick up some cool shiat. Wishing everyone a Happy Holiday season with whatever you happen to celebrate.... Enjoy!
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Dude come on now...you guys were awesome back in the day. But lately it come across as trying to hard. "were fucking back bitches" ??? Before...w...
Dude come on now...you guys were awesome back in the day. But lately it come across as trying to hard. "were fucking back bitches" ???
Before...w Deegan and all that it fit...fell into place and it wasn't cause you guys pushed but because it was the right time.
I never remember dumb shit like this in the past...just you guys doing your own thing...didn't care what people though and had a great thing come from it.
This is just plain stupid...sorry but it is what it is.
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so, being true to who they are and the way they were is now jumping the shark and trying too hard? This ad is funny. It...
so, being true to who they are and the way they were is now jumping the shark and trying too hard? This ad is funny.

It wasn't the "right time" with Deegan. There was more push back than you could ever imagine from the AMA, Factories and even some fans. They made it the right time. They are still doing (as you said) their own thing and don't care what people think and are having a great time with it. Your post s very contradicting. Now that they are back, should they not be who they were and just be another vanilla company? NO WAY.

People like you will just make it more successful. Just like the haters in the past created more fans. It's punk rock. Lots of people aren't supposed to like it. F the establishment.
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12/3/2013 9:13am
Trying to push moto to be like nascar? That will be great! We can all just drink beer in the stands and wish we could be part of the racing. I just don't get it. I wanna hit jumps and rail berms, then drink beer afterwards. It's the moto lifestyle that is cool, not the nascar lifestyle. I'm pumped to see somebody doing different stuff again, and not just all flat billed tattoo shit. I race moto and I support moto xxx. Ha ha braaapppppp!
12/3/2013 9:18am
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If I was a magazine editor, I'd pass on that ad too.
Agreed, it looks pretty bad. Also did you guys really not realise that no major MX magazine is going to run that shit? Kids read those mags... so I think it's less about them not having the balls to run it and more about them having common sense, which you obviously don't have.

Regis - "They are being different from everyone else and shocking the people that can't handle something edgy."

I don't think anyone would find this "shocking," just unprofessional. And I agree with Huevos 100%.
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12/3/2013 9:19am
CamP wrote:
If I was a magazine editor, I'd pass on that ad too.
Agreed, it looks pretty bad. Also did you guys really not realise that no major MX magazine is going to run that shit? Kids read those...
Agreed, it looks pretty bad. Also did you guys really not realise that no major MX magazine is going to run that shit? Kids read those mags... so I think it's less about them not having the balls to run it and more about them having common sense, which you obviously don't have.

Regis - "They are being different from everyone else and shocking the people that can't handle something edgy."

I don't think anyone would find this "shocking," just unprofessional. And I agree with Huevos 100%.
Yeah, they'll need to do something way worse if they want to "shock" anyone in this day.
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12/3/2013 9:26am
i remember racer x getting flack for putting the o'neal bikini girl pics on the magazine. upset parents etc.

there is no fucking way they're going to run a santa with his beard askew and his teeth bloodied.

it's your prerogative to run whatever ad campaign you want, and it's a magazine's to publish whatever they see fit as well.

what is the issue here?
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12/3/2013 9:52am
ob wrote:
Trying to push moto to be like nascar? That will be great! We can all just drink beer in the stands and wish we could be...
Trying to push moto to be like nascar? That will be great! We can all just drink beer in the stands and wish we could be part of the racing. I just don't get it. I wanna hit jumps and rail berms, then drink beer afterwards. It's the moto lifestyle that is cool, not the nascar lifestyle. I'm pumped to see somebody doing different stuff again, and not just all flat billed tattoo shit. I race moto and I support moto xxx. Ha ha braaapppppp!
What are they doing different? Making PBR ripoff shirts? Fuck hipsters and their shitty PBR.

Make another video (without any of the lame Cali bro scene) and maybe you will earn back the respect Moto XXX used to have. As it looks to me you bros are just a t-shirt company that's trying to ride on respect you had ten years ago. You gotta bring something new to the table, or us "haters" will continue to hate. I've been into punk my whole life, I just don't see what is going on from a business standpoint...nor do I see what is so punk about Moto XXX as a brand right now.

Take some pointers from Little Devil Bmx...they had the team, and probably the coolest t-shirts ever to be in bmx, and the had "666 Genuine Evil" and they couldn't keep them in stock....Oh and their videos weren't bad either (Think criminal mischief)
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12/3/2013 9:54am
ob wrote:
Trying to push moto to be like nascar? That will be great! We can all just drink beer in the stands and wish we could be...
Trying to push moto to be like nascar? That will be great! We can all just drink beer in the stands and wish we could be part of the racing. I just don't get it. I wanna hit jumps and rail berms, then drink beer afterwards. It's the moto lifestyle that is cool, not the nascar lifestyle. I'm pumped to see somebody doing different stuff again, and not just all flat billed tattoo shit. I race moto and I support moto xxx. Ha ha braaapppppp!
Good god. I said similar to NASCAR, in the way that the sport is organized, promoted, and ran. "We can all just drink beer in the stands and wish we could be part of the racing."? Really? Have you EVER been to a supercross or national? I can't remember the last time I went to a supercross with out some bros smokin weed starting a fight and throwing up from drinking too much. You bash NASCAR fans for getting drunk in the stands, but that's about 70% of what most people do at a national race. Either way, you missed the point I was trying to make entirely.
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12/3/2013 9:57am
I vote video. A good video and "we're back" and open minded kind of attitude would be convincing enough; but who am I? I don't really know much about advertising..
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12/3/2013 10:10am
I'd also like to add:

Sometimes less is more.

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