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The entire sport will not stop talking about him.
I'am sure he has gained many new fans also.
Great stuff.
You can't expect us not to trash talk when you euros come on here and do just that. You started the trash talking and when we mention something about the Des Nations, or how all your fast guys come over here and get beat, you get upset when we verbally fight back?
How was my post not rational? And how was it neanderthal?
And yes, you are the guys shooting your mouths off... and yes, we will win the des nations going away.
Everyone made such a big deal about Marc coming over and he COULD NOT HANG WITH OUR RIDERS! HE COULDN'T EVEN RUN THE SECOND MOTO.
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- De Reuver: 10th OA in the GPs, 10 OA at Southwick
- Brown: 7th OA in 2007 World Championship, 7th OA at Glen Helen in 2007. Off the radar in the 2008 GPs, off the radar in the 2008 Nationals
- Hamblin: doing so-so in 2006 in the Lites class on Suzukis, did so so in the MX2 class on Suzukis
- Mills: raised white flag in Europe, fell off the radar in the US, too.
Let's see how Tommy Searle will do...
And will people quit saying he came from 25th. Good lord. I watched the race, he was at least in the top 15 going into the second turn, and the anouncer said top ten by a couple turns and I know for a fact because of the timing he wasn't less than 10th at the end of lap one. Almost right behing Ferry!!!
The guy is fast, we all get it. Not sure he really proved anything people didn't arleady know. And the Americans prove themselves every year in other countries at the MXDN. Which rarely comes to ours.
Why come here and worry yourself about that? Maybe facts are facts. They don't go because it's not worth it. Maybe you should ask why some of the best international talent has to come to the US maximize their income for the short career most guys have, especially if the US nationals are such a pissant series compared to the GPs.
Geoff
he mentioned the world mx has a pacing as the ama mx is fast once the gate drops.
mix that in with the different climate as well.
Geoff started this thread by saying 'I think he really showed how similar the speed is between AMA and FIM and that is always our argument.'
No one is shooting their mouths off. We simply say look at the facts, compare the riders that have competed both sides of the pond with the exception of Stewart & Villopoto (who everyone agrees are in different league) and you'll see a close comparison in results - you then reply with cheap insults and misguided statements which inturn causes some to retaliate back. Unfortunately that's the problem with free speech on an internet forum, one person throws out a crappy comment and everyone is tarred with the same brush.
You're post was deluded because you said your top 20 riders were all quicker than the GP riders even though de Reuver, who is currently down in 10th in GPs, posted a 3rd straight of the bat and bagged 10th overall from just one moto. Obviously it's only a one off race, but doesn't say anything to you other than that he couldn't handle the humidity over there? With some acclimatisation don't you think he might actually go quite well over a whole season? 'Go quite well' doesn't translate as 'beat all your riders' by the way
Could not hang with your riders?
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I'm NOT suggesting that the GP riders are slow, you getting 3rd in the first moto would contradict such a foolish thought. But overall the speed, intensity, and conditions are more severe in the US. Given what you've seen of the overall US domination at the MXDN for quite some time now, the speed and endurance needed to run at the top of US MX for 2 motos, would you be a faster, fitter rider after competing in the US MX series?
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...actually better not incase the sponsors are reading this!
that intensity and aggression may not work for a GP series either, the tracks and motos and everything are different. Lots of guys from the US have came over and not won a GP title too. What may work in a US national championship may not be the key to a GP title and vice versa although BAyle Albee, GL and Reed have won in the US from GPs.
All riders are at their best on their own countries tracks.
Which riders do you have in mind as "lots of guys" in the modern era? Say, after 1990.
And no, Marc couldn't hang. He spent himself riding over his head in the first moto. He couldn't ride the second moto. I would be disappointed with myself if I had to pull out due to being physically unfit. And he is a pro? Come on. Southwick wasn't even that hot from what everyone says. And you guys race all over Europe? No heat or humidity there?
It's just different, you can't compare these situations. Saying he should be dissapointed is a complete joke. He has nothing to prove in the States. He just had fun, showed GREAT speed and is now heading back for the next GP, where he will be on full speed again for another 2 races of 45 minutes.
If I was a pro and ran a race outside of my series to prove I was fast and I couldn't finish the second half of the race, I would be disappointed. All that money and time and effort and he pulls out of the second moto because he was tired? How can you defend this?
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