Reed's F'ed local government strikes again.

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8/15/2013 7:13pm
He can come to Texas. Most places other than the 4 big urban areas are essentially live and let live (yeah, there are always exceptions -- but most). The heat is as brutal as Fla to train in and the airports get you anywhere in the country in 4 hours or less.
8/15/2013 7:18pm
Think about how loud a fourstroke dirtbike is on it's own. I imagine those go carts are louder being that there isn't much room for exhaust. (I don't know though).

Just so you four stroke guys know this is just ONE MORE track getting closed due to noiseLaughing

Maybe if he would have opted for the two stroke karts he would have been ok, them four strokes carry a loooooong way.
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8/15/2013 7:20pm
lostboy819 wrote:
Reed has fault in this also, he was OK with the MX track but when he built the paved kart track he was in violation.
The Rock wrote:
While I occasional employ the "it is easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission" tactic when it comes to dealing with "city hall" you...
While I occasional employ the "it is easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission" tactic when it comes to dealing with "city hall" you should normally get permission first. He PO'd them when he built the go kart track and now they're gunning for payback is my take.

I just hope he doesn't lose the ability to ride on his two replica indoor tracks when this is all said and done.
lostboy819 wrote:
I agree ,unfortunately it sounds like the county is going after his MX and SX track because of the Kart track. I say they are within...
I agree ,unfortunately it sounds like the county is going after his MX and SX track because of the Kart track. I say they are within reason to go after the Kart track but being vindictive by going after the other tracks.
When I 1st read about Chads drama I knew this will not end wellSad I have had a similar experience with the "County" and they do not forgive - they win! We have empowered our public officials to guarantee that the "County" wins.

Chad can spend all the money he wants and in the end they will not renew the original conditional use permit! As far as the other infractions - read the earlier post about a smililar drama in Florida.

Big Brother is big and out of control and it will not change in our lifetimesSad
8/15/2013 7:21pm
dboivin wrote:
if i was chad i would pack up and take my tax money somewhere else. Smile stupid county.
ding. id be outta there. tell them to fuck off, start over somewhere else and dont make the same mistakes

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8/15/2013 7:21pm
jndmx wrote:
If a landowner is granted a "conditional use" permit (as Reed was) and doesn't adhere to the use that they requested the change for than the...
If a landowner is granted a "conditional use" permit (as Reed was) and doesn't adhere to the use that they requested the change for than the county can and will revoke the permit.
That is why I said zoning.
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8/15/2013 7:38pm Edited Date/Time 8/15/2013 7:40pm
Say what you will, but the people in that freaky Florida county are stuck up crappy a--holes. It's sad that people like that are allowed to live in America. Ritzy small town politics. He got a bad deal. These people won't give up until he's ruined and run out of there. He's gonna have to leave unfortunately.
8/15/2013 8:58pm
burn1986 wrote:
Say what you will, but the people in that freaky Florida county are stuck up crappy a--holes. It's sad that people like that are allowed to...
Say what you will, but the people in that freaky Florida county are stuck up crappy a--holes. It's sad that people like that are allowed to live in America. Ritzy small town politics. He got a bad deal. These people won't give up until he's ruined and run out of there. He's gonna have to leave unfortunately.
Or..... he could have just followed the rules. The county did not have to grant him a conditional use permit for the MX tracks in the first place but they did and Reed screwed himself. Sounds like the the county did the right thing for Reed because he makes his living racing dirt bikes so they gave him a conditional use permit to have the tracks to train on and then he goes and screws them with a kart track, so who is the "stuck up crappy a--holes ? the county or Reed ?
8/15/2013 9:34pm
He knew or should have known the rules that would apply to him when purchasing the property.

Apparently he bent the rules and now has to deal with the repercussions and doesn't like it. Whether or not he likes it or feels it isn't fair doesn't make it legal.

At some point in time people have to learn to live by the rules or pay the penalty. He would have been better off going to his neighbors prior to making the changes and try to work a deal out with them where he could possibly get a change in the zoning or current restrictions and have them be agreeable so that he could use that when applying for the change.

All of you guys on here who blindly agree with anything Reed wants or does look just a silly as he does in this deal.
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8/15/2013 9:43pm
He can come to Texas. Most places other than the 4 big urban areas are essentially live and let live (yeah, there are always exceptions --...
He can come to Texas. Most places other than the 4 big urban areas are essentially live and let live (yeah, there are always exceptions -- but most). The heat is as brutal as Fla to train in and the airports get you anywhere in the country in 4 hours or less.
meh..the problem with this place (texas) is that it the heat here during the summer is pretty unbearable and i dont think its good for training. its not like florida where it stays in the 90s and is humid (which is whats good for cardio..humidity)

the dry scorching heat of texas isnt good for training IMO.
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8/15/2013 10:47pm
I'm guessing he carries on like normal.

Dude's got enough money to bank roll a team they'd have to fine him way outside precedence for another two years to be a worry...
8/15/2013 11:06pm
So sad. The guy is paying taxes on HIS property that he cant use how he wants to. I just dont get it.
8/15/2013 11:07pm
Crush wrote:
I'm guessing he carries on like normal. Dude's got enough money to bank roll a team they'd have to fine him way outside precedence for another...
I'm guessing he carries on like normal.

Dude's got enough money to bank roll a team they'd have to fine him way outside precedence for another two years to be a worry...
I hope thats the case for Reed (having enough money to not need to worry about it). And if that is the case, Id have my friends over every damn day to go karting and riding to make it worth it. Evil
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8/15/2013 11:21pm
Crush wrote:
I'm guessing he carries on like normal. Dude's got enough money to bank roll a team they'd have to fine him way outside precedence for another...
I'm guessing he carries on like normal.

Dude's got enough money to bank roll a team they'd have to fine him way outside precedence for another two years to be a worry...
Crush - reminds me of a rich f&ker in QLD had a huge house on the coast and cut a tree down to get better view on the ocean. Enviro and councils took him to court he was fined 10,000 buck for cutting the tree down. The next day he went out and cut 5 more down and got full views of beach and ocean. Said for that little money , when my house and land is worth millions is pennies.

I just raised the value of my house by about 200,000 for cutting 50,000 dollars worth of trees.

Hahaha Loved it!
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8/15/2013 11:39pm
haha... How Aussie is that.

Fuck ya mate!! Straya Cunts!

Oh dear...

Thing is for Reedy tho, for all this cuffuffle, his neighbours have gotta think that he's not gonna stop. When he begins rallying, or takes a stab at Nascar etc, he's only gonna hang out more... And I doubt he'll stop riding.

They shoulda approached him to buy out their 10 acres of whatever it is. He'd do it in a sec for them to stfu.
8/16/2013 12:04am
So sad. The guy is paying taxes on HIS property that he cant use how he wants to. I just dont get it.
When you grow up and figure the world doesn't revolve around you, then you may figure it out. There are zoning laws to protect the other people who pay taxes and live their life the right way. There are hundreds of things he can't do or build on his property that protect the other people around him and their property values and just because they are not a famous racer doesn't mean their quality of life is less important now does it.
8/16/2013 12:47am
lol he should move to germany :D
I cant even run my bike 2 min inside of my garage without having my neighbors knocking at my door and complaining.
They called the police when I bought a new bike and drove down the road (200meters) to try out the clutch
8/16/2013 1:18am
I feel for Chad, regardless of whether he's in the wrong or not but I loved this quote in the article:

“While an automobile race track is usually oval and the go-kart track is winding"

Seriously!

Have you heard of F1?
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8/16/2013 2:05am
Im moving close to RV tomorrow.
Ha! Still laughing.
Me too. Lol
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8/16/2013 5:20am
I have a small track and have dealt with the same shit for 10 years. Even had a guy shoot off 8 shots and yell "that's how real men play" while my 8 month old son was by me. Reading some of these replies makes me sick. It's no wonder this country is so fucked up.
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8/16/2013 6:22am
jndmx wrote:
If a landowner is granted a "conditional use" permit (as Reed was) and doesn't adhere to the use that they requested the change for than the...
If a landowner is granted a "conditional use" permit (as Reed was) and doesn't adhere to the use that they requested the change for than the county can and will revoke the permit.
Preston412 wrote:
That is why I said zoning.
Not sure what your point is.....the zoning here has nothing to do with it.

If it is zoned as agricultural and you get a conditional use permit to do something else then they aren't changing the zoning.

The property will still be zoned as agricultural but they can certainly revoke the conditional use permit......same end result.
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8/16/2013 7:36am
This is way past a noise problem for the neighbors. This is a personal war at this point.
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8/16/2013 8:00am Edited Date/Time 8/16/2013 8:04am
My last house I had a track professionally built. Didn't get permits, didn't ask permission, didn't give a flying fuck what the county had to say about it!

Now, I just built a new house on 46 acres that has been in the family since 1985 and the neighbor didn't want me to build because they were using my property for hunting. During the construction process, the environmental inspector showed up, and was expressing his concerns about a MX track being built, because the neighbor knew I raced and knew I had a track at the other house. I told the environmental inspector, without any hesitation, that if they were going to tell me I couldn't ride my motorcycles on my property, or that my sons couldn't ride on my property, then they better lawyer up right fucking now, because I will ride on my property, and there wasn't a damn thing they could do about it, legally or otherwise. He knew I was serious, and knew I understood my property rights. After that, I never heard another word about it from him or the asshole neighbor.

Time to stop all of these liberal types who believe they have a right to infringing upon property owners' rights! I own this land and will do with it as I damn we'll please, and if the gov't thinks they can dictate otherwise, they are in for a rude awakening. My attorney and I have already discussed the plan of action if anything comes up again.

Now, I am in the Tallahassee area, not Dade City, which has in the last 10 years or so become as bad South Florida. It sickens me what it's country has become!
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8/16/2013 8:03am
Why does everyone who has enough money to live anywhere they want always move to places like CA,FL and NY. If you lived in the western half of South Dakota, you could get permits for whatever you want and still have enough money left from leaving CA to buy a twin engine airplane for commuting.
8/16/2013 8:14am
ty159 wrote:
My last house I had a track professionally built. Didn't get permits, didn't ask permission, didn't give a flying fuck what the county had to say...
My last house I had a track professionally built. Didn't get permits, didn't ask permission, didn't give a flying fuck what the county had to say about it!

Now, I just built a new house on 46 acres that has been in the family since 1985 and the neighbor didn't want me to build because they were using my property for hunting. During the construction process, the environmental inspector showed up, and was expressing his concerns about a MX track being built, because the neighbor knew I raced and knew I had a track at the other house. I told the environmental inspector, without any hesitation, that if they were going to tell me I couldn't ride my motorcycles on my property, or that my sons couldn't ride on my property, then they better lawyer up right fucking now, because I will ride on my property, and there wasn't a damn thing they could do about it, legally or otherwise. He knew I was serious, and knew I understood my property rights. After that, I never heard another word about it from him or the asshole neighbor.

Time to stop all of these liberal types who believe they have a right to infringing upon property owners' rights! I own this land and will do with it as I damn we'll please, and if the gov't thinks they can dictate otherwise, they are in for a rude awakening. My attorney and I have already discussed the plan of action if anything comes up again.

Now, I am in the Tallahassee area, not Dade City, which has in the last 10 years or so become as bad South Florida. It sickens me what it's country has become!
AMEN!!!!!
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8/16/2013 8:47am Edited Date/Time 8/16/2013 8:48am
lostboy819 wrote:
Or..... he could have just followed the rules. The county did not have to grant him a conditional use permit for the MX tracks in the...
Or..... he could have just followed the rules. The county did not have to grant him a conditional use permit for the MX tracks in the first place but they did and Reed screwed himself. Sounds like the the county did the right thing for Reed because he makes his living racing dirt bikes so they gave him a conditional use permit to have the tracks to train on and then he goes and screws them with a kart track, so who is the "stuck up crappy a--holes ? the county or Reed ?
Okay, I guess Aurora, CO is definitely not a place that he should consider when he gets run off of his land in Florida.
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8/16/2013 8:55am
ty159 wrote:
My last house I had a track professionally built. Didn't get permits, didn't ask permission, didn't give a flying fuck what the county had to say...
My last house I had a track professionally built. Didn't get permits, didn't ask permission, didn't give a flying fuck what the county had to say about it!

Now, I just built a new house on 46 acres that has been in the family since 1985 and the neighbor didn't want me to build because they were using my property for hunting. During the construction process, the environmental inspector showed up, and was expressing his concerns about a MX track being built, because the neighbor knew I raced and knew I had a track at the other house. I told the environmental inspector, without any hesitation, that if they were going to tell me I couldn't ride my motorcycles on my property, or that my sons couldn't ride on my property, then they better lawyer up right fucking now, because I will ride on my property, and there wasn't a damn thing they could do about it, legally or otherwise. He knew I was serious, and knew I understood my property rights. After that, I never heard another word about it from him or the asshole neighbor.

Time to stop all of these liberal types who believe they have a right to infringing upon property owners' rights! I own this land and will do with it as I damn we'll please, and if the gov't thinks they can dictate otherwise, they are in for a rude awakening. My attorney and I have already discussed the plan of action if anything comes up again.

Now, I am in the Tallahassee area, not Dade City, which has in the last 10 years or so become as bad South Florida. It sickens me what it's country has become!
Right on brother! Did the same thing. Now one of my asshole neighbors house is up for tax auction.... Karma!
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8/16/2013 9:34am
He can come to Texas. Most places other than the 4 big urban areas are essentially live and let live (yeah, there are always exceptions --...
He can come to Texas. Most places other than the 4 big urban areas are essentially live and let live (yeah, there are always exceptions -- but most). The heat is as brutal as Fla to train in and the airports get you anywhere in the country in 4 hours or less.
DocMarten wrote:
meh..the problem with this place (texas) is that it the heat here during the summer is pretty unbearable and i dont think its good for training...
meh..the problem with this place (texas) is that it the heat here during the summer is pretty unbearable and i dont think its good for training. its not like florida where it stays in the 90s and is humid (which is whats good for cardio..humidity)

the dry scorching heat of texas isnt good for training IMO.
Have you ever been to Texas? Humidity is something we can't get away from. It is great for training.
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8/16/2013 9:36am
dedi684 wrote:
I have a small track and have dealt with the same shit for 10 years. Even had a guy shoot off 8 shots and yell "that's...
I have a small track and have dealt with the same shit for 10 years. Even had a guy shoot off 8 shots and yell "that's how real men play" while my 8 month old son was by me. Reading some of these replies makes me sick. It's no wonder this country is so fucked up.
Agreed
8/16/2013 9:44am
So sad. The guy is paying taxes on HIS property that he cant use how he wants to. I just dont get it.
lostboy819 wrote:
When you grow up and figure the world doesn't revolve around you, then you may figure it out. There are zoning laws to protect the other...
When you grow up and figure the world doesn't revolve around you, then you may figure it out. There are zoning laws to protect the other people who pay taxes and live their life the right way. There are hundreds of things he can't do or build on his property that protect the other people around him and their property values and just because they are not a famous racer doesn't mean their quality of life is less important now does it.
He isnt putting anyone in danger.
Its how he makes a living. And if they (the neighbors) dont like it, they should move. They (the neighbors again) make a living selling flowers or something like that I do believe. What if Chad doesn't like that? Maybe hes allergic to their flowers. Should they be shut down too? Tongue
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8/16/2013 9:46am
When i lived in Texas (West near Midland), I rode year round. Nothin but land. Of course, there is nothing out there, but illegal aliens and oil wells.

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