Whipmeister puts up 50ik to prove RV is doping?

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7/25/2013 7:51am
thephoenix wrote:
I'll have to make a simple post on this one... txmxer...I am embarrassed that you are from Texas, now people might think that all Texans are...
I'll have to make a simple post on this one...


txmxer...I am embarrassed that you are from Texas, now people might think that all Texans are as much of a jackass as you are.

You're an idiot. First you improperly interpret someone else's post, then when it's pointed out that you were in error, you attack and flame people.
Racer92 wrote:
Actually I think its been established Im the Texas jackass. :whistle: But hey, I will piss in a cup for 50K ! Anyone want some PED...
Actually I think its been established Im the Texas jackass. Whistling

But hey, I will piss in a cup for 50K ! Anyone want some PED free Texakin piss?

Might be a lil Shiner residue in there, had to finish off my sampler pack last night.. Silly



Why do you not have any of that nasty Hefewiezen in your family reunion pack? You wouldn't be guilty of swapping it out for something better would you? Not saying I've ever done that.....Whistling

I've been trying to be a good boy lately and have only had one beer in the last three weeks. Made it five miles on the treadmill yesterday even. But if I don't start shucking some weight soon, I'm going back to my Shiner diet. No Hefe in the reunion packs might be twisting my arm.
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7/25/2013 8:08am
thephoenix wrote:
I'll have to make a simple post on this one... txmxer...I am embarrassed that you are from Texas, now people might think that all Texans are...
I'll have to make a simple post on this one...


txmxer...I am embarrassed that you are from Texas, now people might think that all Texans are as much of a jackass as you are.

You're an idiot. First you improperly interpret someone else's post, then when it's pointed out that you were in error, you attack and flame people.
lol

Welcome to the interweb. Whip has a history of being a jackass that one cannot have a logical discussion with. He's not going to front 100k for shit...I just thought he needed to be called out rather than waste my time arguing with a professional internet troll.

For the record, I think PEDs are part of MX. Is RV using? I have no idea. He says he's not and he's been tested. More power to him for being the best on two wheels.
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7/25/2013 8:18am
How many people chiming in on this and yakking up this $100k thing actually listened to the pulp show discussion with RV on doping where it...
How many people chiming in on this and yakking up this $100k thing actually listened to the pulp show discussion with RV on doping where it came up?
Obviously only a few of us FTE. They would just argue their POV than listen to it. Whistling
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7/25/2013 8:30am Edited Date/Time 7/25/2013 8:35am
kawasa84 wrote:
If you read blogs and message boards on alot of topics, everyone knows people from Texas are asshole and jackasses. When I travel out of state...
If you read blogs and message boards on alot of topics, everyone knows people from Texas are asshole and jackasses.
When I travel out of state, with my Texas plates I cut people off, and give em the "Hook em Horns" sign just to let them know I'm an asshole from Texas!
Racer92 wrote:
Actually, that sounds more like a New Yorker. Wink
Yes that definitely sounds East coast.. Texans are generally the ones you find stuck in the ditch in the winter months with a big set of plastic truck nuts hanging from their receiver (WTF???), then when you stop to drag them out they talk aimlessly about random shit no one wants to hear about, on and on and on..... Generally speaking of course Laughing

edit- not you guys of course- big fan of WhipMeisters work here... 8-)

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7/25/2013 8:39am
Hut wrote:
Yes that definitely sounds East coast.. Texans are generally the ones you find stuck in the ditch in the winter months with a big set of...
Yes that definitely sounds East coast.. Texans are generally the ones you find stuck in the ditch in the winter months with a big set of plastic truck nuts hanging from their receiver (WTF???), then when you stop to drag them out they talk aimlessly about random shit no one wants to hear about, on and on and on..... Generally speaking of course Laughing

edit- not you guys of course- big fan of WhipMeisters work here... 8-)
Now you are talkin' !
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7/25/2013 8:40am
bvm111 wrote:
Why do you guys care so much... This isn't the Olympics These guys get paid millions of dollars, if you guys got off your high horses...
Why do you guys care so much... This isn't the Olympics

These guys get paid millions of dollars, if you guys got off your high horses and onto a motorcycle to make a living you would do whatever it took to be successful. When did motocross get sucked into this crap ass argument about this stuff... Just blows my mind how you think doping or steroids or GH makes you faster?????

You guys are retarded
I, like others, care because it seems unfair when a top athlete gets accused.

But I also care because it's 100% unfair to be cheating, no matter what the sport is or how much they get paid. Doping will definitely up your week long training game, which will allow you to ride harder for longer. If that isn't the best advantage a racer could have (a laser pointer being a close second) then I don't know what is.

I don't think RV is cheating, but I don't think it's unfair to pose the question, given who his trainer is and what his background is.
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7/25/2013 8:49am
so i ask who's ped's early last week and terry soft ass pulls my post and all you panty wastes say i'm flogging a dead horse...now this.

i guarantee 7 of the top 10 guys are doing shit. "every" top sport is the same. don't be stupid.
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7/25/2013 8:58am
hammertime wrote:
so i ask who's ped's early last week and terry soft ass pulls my post and all you panty wastes say i'm flogging a dead horse...now...
so i ask who's ped's early last week and terry soft ass pulls my post and all you panty wastes say i'm flogging a dead horse...now this.

i guarantee 7 of the top 10 guys are doing shit. "every" top sport is the same. don't be stupid.
7 of the top ten?
I can't think of anymore than 2 guys that are consistently at the front, are the other 5 only taking them occasionally?
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7/25/2013 9:02am
Anyone who thinks that these guys will actually fail a test are dreaming. It's going to take the highest level testing AND the element of surprise - no advanced notice - to catch a good doper.
And if you think our sport doesn't have some good dopers, you've got your head in the sand.
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7/25/2013 9:04am
I think txmxer went full retard on this, he starts out saying RV is doping then says he doesn't think he is. Reads whipmeister's response wrong and states the exact opposite of what whip is trying to say, then calls him an internet troll when he tries to correct him.
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7/25/2013 9:15am
lrantan wrote:
I think txmxer went full retard on this, he starts out saying RV is doping then says he doesn't think he is. Reads whipmeister's response wrong...
I think txmxer went full retard on this, he starts out saying RV is doping then says he doesn't think he is. Reads whipmeister's response wrong and states the exact opposite of what whip is trying to say, then calls him an internet troll when he tries to correct him.
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7/25/2013 9:28am
FlaNard wrote:
Don't you get it by now? Since Lance denied using everyone else in the history of forever that is accused just HAS to be doing the...
Don't you get it by now? Since Lance denied using everyone else in the history of forever that is accused just HAS to be doing the exact same thing he did. (eye roll) From now on you are 100% guilty if accused in the minds of some people. Saying that you will take any test, anywhere, and at anytime just means you can beat the system and hide the doping (eye roll). That outlook ensures that nobody will ever be able to clear their name fully in the minds of retarded people.
TerryB wrote:
Unfortunately, this is exactly where we are at now. If you deny it and offer to take the test, it just means you are confident that...
Unfortunately, this is exactly where we are at now. If you deny it and offer to take the test, it just means you are confident that you can fool the tests, and confirms your guilt.

Full retard catch 22.

Winners win. Haters hate.
And as we all know, you NEVER go full retard. Wink
7/25/2013 10:22am
lrantan wrote:
I think txmxer went full retard on this, he starts out saying RV is doping then says he doesn't think he is. Reads whipmeister's response wrong...
I think txmxer went full retard on this, he starts out saying RV is doping then says he doesn't think he is. Reads whipmeister's response wrong and states the exact opposite of what whip is trying to say, then calls him an internet troll when he tries to correct him.
That's what I was trying to convey :-)
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7/25/2013 10:58am
hammertime wrote:
so i ask who's ped's early last week and terry soft ass pulls my post and all you panty wastes say i'm flogging a dead horse...now...
so i ask who's ped's early last week and terry soft ass pulls my post and all you panty wastes say i'm flogging a dead horse...now this.

i guarantee 7 of the top 10 guys are doing shit. "every" top sport is the same. don't be stupid.
So what do you do about it, Rick? Just piss about it?
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7/25/2013 11:01am Edited Date/Time 7/25/2013 11:03am
thephoenix wrote:
I'll have to make a simple post on this one... txmxer...I am embarrassed that you are from Texas, now people might think that all Texans are...
I'll have to make a simple post on this one...


txmxer...I am embarrassed that you are from Texas, now people might think that all Texans are as much of a jackass as you are.

You're an idiot. First you improperly interpret someone else's post, then when it's pointed out that you were in error, you attack and flame people.
kawasa84 wrote:
If you read blogs and message boards on alot of topics, everyone knows people from Texas are asshole and jackasses. When I travel out of state...
If you read blogs and message boards on alot of topics, everyone knows people from Texas are asshole and jackasses.
When I travel out of state, with my Texas plates I cut people off, and give em the "Hook em Horns" sign just to let them know I'm an asshole from Texas!
We can at least thank God that he made the world a better place by creating a crappy piece of real estate for the Texans and threw a little oil and a few steers there to keep them at home. Whistling Evil
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7/25/2013 11:19am
We can at least thank God that he made the world a better place by creating a crappy piece of real estate for the Texans and...
We can at least thank God that he made the world a better place by creating a crappy piece of real estate for the Texans and threw a little oil and a few steers there to keep them at home. Whistling Evil
And we're glad all the above keeps you Cali-Kooks the hell outta Gods Country.

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7/25/2013 11:36am Edited Date/Time 7/25/2013 11:38am
So RV is saying that if someone is going to try to prove that he is doping they have to be willing to lose 100k? Why...
So RV is saying that if someone is going to try to prove that he is doping they have to be willing to lose 100k? Why wouldn't he just do it for free to shut everyone up? He has a lot more money than the rest of us.
why doesnt he bring it down to 10,000 im sure then someone would take up the challenge.
7/25/2013 12:35pm
You don't need drugs to dope.

Blood transfusions can be used. Beef yourself up with excess amount of red blood cells. Puts yourself at major risk for a heart attack though. Cyclist do it. More red blood cells means more oxygen carrying. More oxygen to cells means better performance than the competitor who has natural amount of blood cells.

I doubt RV would do that. Too much work. He's a beast. Haters gonna hate.
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7/25/2013 1:04pm
bvm111 wrote:
Why do you guys care so much... This isn't the Olympics These guys get paid millions of dollars, if you guys got off your high horses...
Why do you guys care so much... This isn't the Olympics

These guys get paid millions of dollars, if you guys got off your high horses and onto a motorcycle to make a living you would do whatever it took to be successful. When did motocross get sucked into this crap ass argument about this stuff... Just blows my mind how you think doping or steroids or GH makes you faster?????

You guys are retarded
I care because I find it offensive when idiots recklessly spread lies and rumors about someone who is performing better than they, or their favorite, are...
I care because I find it offensive when idiots recklessly spread lies and rumors about someone who is performing better than they, or their favorite, are as a means to somehow explain why it is happening. They are accusing them of cheating, which discounts their achievement.

My opinion is that Villopoto and his team are just BETTER than everyone else right now. Not by a lot, but enough. Same way RC was BETTER. Same way McGrath was BETTER.

Does that mean the sport is 100% clean. Of course not. We have ample proof of that from this past weekend. But RV is kicking everyone's ass because he is BETTER right here, right now. And I don't think he should be attacked for it.
txmxer wrote:
you are FOS. You are the original internet troll of the moto world. That's what this thread means. Show me your money. I'm in the area...
you are FOS. You are the original internet troll of the moto world.

That's what this thread means.

Show me your money. I'm in the area. I'll come by your place to see your 50k to test RV. Let me know when and where.

troll.
txmxer......You friggin troll! YOU are the one who started this thread with the words "RV is doping!"....you're calling Whip a troll because you appearently took what he said out of context and didn't fully understand the point he was making (even after he clarified himself in this thread). My first thought is you don't belong here.....but then again, Vital is where trolls come to thrive....so....thrive on!
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7/25/2013 2:46pm
I don't know why txmxer suddenly got a hard on for me, but I'm not hard to find. At all.

Given his last insult, I think the last thing I'd show him if he comes by is a pile of money, though.
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He has one thing right Jess, you are the original moto dude on the interweb!

Where it all started:

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7/25/2013 3:02pm
I'm not sure what testing less than two months before the MXoN would prove anyway. The guys that are using clean their acts up before the MXoN.

If I was paying for someone to test I would do it at about the 3rd National.
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7/25/2013 3:10pm
newmann wrote:
Why do you not have any of that nasty Hefewiezen in your family reunion pack? You wouldn't be guilty of swapping it out for something better...
Why do you not have any of that nasty Hefewiezen in your family reunion pack? You wouldn't be guilty of swapping it out for something better would you? Not saying I've ever done that.....Whistling

I've been trying to be a good boy lately and have only had one beer in the last three weeks. Made it five miles on the treadmill yesterday even. But if I don't start shucking some weight soon, I'm going back to my Shiner diet. No Hefe in the reunion packs might be twisting my arm.
Sure fire way to lose weight:

1) Drink water...A LOT OF WATER. So much you're going to the bathroom pretty much all the time.

2) Do something to raise your metabolism to where you break a sweat once a day. Getting hot from high temps doesn't qualify.

3) Don't eat past 6 PM. Portion control helps as well. People who consume mass quantities of food get their stomachs stretched out to where they need a lot of food to feel full. Eat less and over time the stomach gets smaller to where you don't need as much to eat to feel full.

You do these three things and it is impossible not to lose weight barring unique conditions like what my friend TFS had until he got it diagnosed.

Good luck Joe!
7/25/2013 3:31pm
jmar wrote:
Fool me once..... you know how it goes.

It amazes me that otherwise intelligent fans still buy the hype. Even worse is when they are pissed off because they feel duped after the truth comes out.
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7/25/2013 4:07pm
After reading all the PEDs threads, I will say this: I do not care if pro athletes use PEDs. If they do and I get a better show, all the better. It is their bodies, if they want to pump it full of stuff that takes years off their life, it is none of my business.

Now to the question does PEDs make you faster. My answer is yes. My body almost quit producing testosterone. I became weaker, lost endurance, took longer to heal, and lost some guts at hitting bigger jumps and pushing the throttle to the stops. Once my Dr. and I figured out my free testosterone level was under 100 and started testosterone injections, I started to get faster again. My testosterone level is still under the bottom range figure for a 40 year old, so we are still upping my dosage gradually. As my testosterone level raises the faster I go around the track and for longer! So for me I do not care what the people in the industry say, PEDs are making me faster and if for no other reason than I am just getting my balls back to push the throttle further. According to my Dr. and my own research on the effects of testosterone I have learned this, the higher level of testosterone you have the more aggressive you become. Does aggressiveness make you faster on the MX track? In my opinion yes! If they make me faster at 40 what are they doing for people in their 20s?
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7/25/2013 5:35pm
Bigshow wrote:
After reading all the PEDs threads, I will say this: I do not care if pro athletes use PEDs. If they do and I get a...
After reading all the PEDs threads, I will say this: I do not care if pro athletes use PEDs. If they do and I get a better show, all the better. It is their bodies, if they want to pump it full of stuff that takes years off their life, it is none of my business.

Now to the question does PEDs make you faster. My answer is yes. My body almost quit producing testosterone. I became weaker, lost endurance, took longer to heal, and lost some guts at hitting bigger jumps and pushing the throttle to the stops. Once my Dr. and I figured out my free testosterone level was under 100 and started testosterone injections, I started to get faster again. My testosterone level is still under the bottom range figure for a 40 year old, so we are still upping my dosage gradually. As my testosterone level raises the faster I go around the track and for longer! So for me I do not care what the people in the industry say, PEDs are making me faster and if for no other reason than I am just getting my balls back to push the throttle further. According to my Dr. and my own research on the effects of testosterone I have learned this, the higher level of testosterone you have the more aggressive you become. Does aggressiveness make you faster on the MX track? In my opinion yes! If they make me faster at 40 what are they doing for people in their 20s?
Bigshow wrote: After reading all the PEDs threads, I will say this: I do not care if pro athletes use PEDs. If they do and I get a better show, all the better. It is their bodies, if they want to pump it full of stuff that takes years off their life, it is none of my business.

I completely agree. Grown men can do what they want.

But why does the federal government care so much? Is it cause of high stakes gambling? Taxes? A drug ring/cartel they are after? I don't get it.
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7/25/2013 5:48pm
Ok, so after reading all this i have some questions? I would like to know what the so called peds are called? And i will find out if it can be tested because my wife does actually work in a drug testing lab.
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7/26/2013 4:46am Edited Date/Time 7/26/2013 4:47am
If your wife does actually work in a drug testing lab, I'm sure she knows what type of ped's these guys are on this time of year. There are literally hundreds of compounds and masking agents that can be used, and if your wife is involved with blood testing of athletes, I'm sure she's in contact with PED's on a daily basis.

My mind is absolutely blown about the fact that some of you believe that the majority of top racers in our sport are not doping in one way or another.
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7/26/2013 5:07am
newmann wrote:
Why do you not have any of that nasty Hefewiezen in your family reunion pack? You wouldn't be guilty of swapping it out for something better...
Why do you not have any of that nasty Hefewiezen in your family reunion pack? You wouldn't be guilty of swapping it out for something better would you? Not saying I've ever done that.....Whistling

I've been trying to be a good boy lately and have only had one beer in the last three weeks. Made it five miles on the treadmill yesterday even. But if I don't start shucking some weight soon, I'm going back to my Shiner diet. No Hefe in the reunion packs might be twisting my arm.
The Rock wrote:
Sure fire way to lose weight: 1) Drink water...A LOT OF WATER. So much you're going to the bathroom pretty much all the time. 2) Do...
Sure fire way to lose weight:

1) Drink water...A LOT OF WATER. So much you're going to the bathroom pretty much all the time.

2) Do something to raise your metabolism to where you break a sweat once a day. Getting hot from high temps doesn't qualify.

3) Don't eat past 6 PM. Portion control helps as well. People who consume mass quantities of food get their stomachs stretched out to where they need a lot of food to feel full. Eat less and over time the stomach gets smaller to where you don't need as much to eat to feel full.

You do these three things and it is impossible not to lose weight barring unique conditions like what my friend TFS had until he got it diagnosed.

Good luck Joe!
from personal experience, just quit HFCS

7/26/2013 9:41am
Just a question , don't ama riders get random dope testing anyway? I'm pretty sure Gp riders get random testing, have heard Tommy Searle moaning about early morning random testing

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