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Motodave15 7/1/2013 4:30pm
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Would you be upset is someone made up a bunch of stuff about you and posted it publicly, and your job was on the line, your...
Would you be upset is someone made up a bunch of stuff about you and posted it publicly, and your job was on the line, your income jeopardized, companies behind you dropping you and losing respect for you based on hearsay? MXA are a bunch of toolbags IMO. They attempt to be edgy, but really they just are lost in their own asses.
Motodave15 wrote:
No i wouldn't one, Because from a marketing stand point they are talking about you... which in corporate eyes is good... rather its good or bad...
No i wouldn't one, Because from a marketing stand point they are talking about you... which in corporate eyes is good... rather its good or bad info... and two. Their are two sides to every story... and if a company feels like there going to take the side of a publication that can be clearly biased ... Then obviously you don't mean much to them or they dont believe anything you say or do.
doubleupnv wrote:
Your marketing point is one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Go ask Tiger Woods how bad press works in the corporate eye. Or...
Your marketing point is one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Go ask Tiger Woods how bad press works in the corporate eye. Or matter of fact ask Jlaw how bad press worked for him and the companies that sponsored him since he is in this subject. Bad press for an athlete is bad for everyone.
you cant compare, mx to tiger woods.. at fucking all... get a clue man.

and that's different to have your wife chase you out of a house, and crash a car into a fire hydrant and then a bunch of random mistress saying yea you got down with them... come on that's just dumb. (and tiger had the wholesome family image which makes things way worse in every aspect)

Jlaws bad press in flipping cars and going to jail is bad....on the flip side .getting into a little scuffle that nobody saw and nobody can get a accurate account of....Is good press.... its called being bad under the radar.... so people think you still have a edge etc.

For instance, Josh hansen has had some bad press...but now hes sponsored by fsas (famous stars and stripes) and a bunch of other company's that revel in his bad body image... hence "Twitch" Jeremy stenberg etc and i could go on and on.
doubleupnv 7/1/2013 4:45pm
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Motodave15 wrote:
No i wouldn't one, Because from a marketing stand point they are talking about you... which in corporate eyes is good... rather its good or bad...
No i wouldn't one, Because from a marketing stand point they are talking about you... which in corporate eyes is good... rather its good or bad info... and two. Their are two sides to every story... and if a company feels like there going to take the side of a publication that can be clearly biased ... Then obviously you don't mean much to them or they dont believe anything you say or do.
doubleupnv wrote:
Your marketing point is one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Go ask Tiger Woods how bad press works in the corporate eye. Or...
Your marketing point is one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Go ask Tiger Woods how bad press works in the corporate eye. Or matter of fact ask Jlaw how bad press worked for him and the companies that sponsored him since he is in this subject. Bad press for an athlete is bad for everyone.
Motodave15 wrote:
you cant compare, mx to tiger woods.. at fucking all... get a clue man. and that's different to have your wife chase you out of a...
you cant compare, mx to tiger woods.. at fucking all... get a clue man.

and that's different to have your wife chase you out of a house, and crash a car into a fire hydrant and then a bunch of random mistress saying yea you got down with them... come on that's just dumb. (and tiger had the wholesome family image which makes things way worse in every aspect)

Jlaws bad press in flipping cars and going to jail is bad....on the flip side .getting into a little scuffle that nobody saw and nobody can get a accurate account of....Is good press.... its called being bad under the radar.... so people think you still have a edge etc.

For instance, Josh hansen has had some bad press...but now hes sponsored by fsas (famous stars and stripes) and a bunch of other company's that revel in his bad body image... hence "Twitch" Jeremy stenberg etc and i could go on and on.
You are using Hanson as an example? Where is he riding now? How many teams gave up on him? Yeah his image really worked out well for him. Being sponsored by a company I have never heard of.

Name one rider who has had consistent bad press that is sponsored well in motocross or supercross? None. Not one.

Because the teams, clothing sponsors, helmets, goggles...all want that rider with a rider who is bad under the radar and has an edge.
project racer 7/1/2013 4:48pm
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When I read race results, and see a rider competing in an expert class, as well as a novice class on the same day, I always wonder how that comes to happen. 60 + expert and vet novice ? Is it an age exception or something to be able to drop to novice for the vet class ?
TripleFive 7/1/2013 4:50pm
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So J Law was supposed to be at Hangtown this year, and race the whole series. Never happened. Then we were told he would be at...
So J Law was supposed to be at Hangtown this year, and race the whole series. Never happened. Then we were told he would be at Budds Creek. Didn't happen. Let me know when he actually lines up for a national.
When did JLaw ever say he would be at Hangtown?

When did he say he would be a Budds?

Perhaps you should stop blaming JLaw for the dumb shit you read on here.

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You are using Hanson as an example? Where is he riding now? How many teams gave up on him? Yeah his image really worked out well...
You are using Hanson as an example? Where is he riding now? How many teams gave up on him? Yeah his image really worked out well for him. Being sponsored by a company I have never heard of.

Name one rider who has had consistent bad press that is sponsored well in motocross or supercross? None. Not one.

Because the teams, clothing sponsors, helmets, goggles...all want that rider with a rider who is bad under the radar and has an edge.
Hes doing xgames and making more money doing that, than finishing 15th in a main event... thats for damn sure. (and he can be seen with a beer)

And bad press depends on the eye of the beholder.
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Motodave15 7/1/2013 4:53pm
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flyinb501 wrote:
So J Law was supposed to be at Hangtown this year, and race the whole series. Never happened. Then we were told he would be at...
So J Law was supposed to be at Hangtown this year, and race the whole series. Never happened. Then we were told he would be at Budds Creek. Didn't happen. Let me know when he actually lines up for a national.
TripleFive wrote:
When did JLaw ever say he would be at Hangtown? When did he say he would be a Budds? Perhaps you should stop blaming JLaw for...
When did JLaw ever say he would be at Hangtown?

When did he say he would be a Budds?

Perhaps you should stop blaming JLaw for the dumb shit you read on here.
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Say what you will, but Jason has had numerous chances and has wasted alot of peoples time and money.
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Say what you will, but Jason has had numerous chances and has wasted alot of peoples time and money.
I'm about Jason's age, at this point in my life I feel like I've also wasted a lot of people's time and money.
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flyinb501 wrote:
So J Law was supposed to be at Hangtown this year, and race the whole series. Never happened. Then we were told he would be at...
So J Law was supposed to be at Hangtown this year, and race the whole series. Never happened. Then we were told he would be at Budds Creek. Didn't happen. Let me know when he actually lines up for a national.
Oh it will be well known if he does.
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Seamorbutts wrote:
Should we care?
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If you don't care about news or drama dealing with mx racers then maybe you shouldn't be on a website thats soul purpose is mx news,drama,rumors...
If you don't care about news or drama dealing with mx racers then maybe you shouldn't be on a website thats soul purpose is mx news,drama,rumors etc. thanks for taking the time to say you don't care.your are so cool
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No, I don't give a shit what's happening to Jason. The other Racers that work hard and give to charity and such like Dungey deserves the...
No, I don't give a shit what's happening to Jason. The other Racers that work hard and give to charity and such like Dungey deserves the adulation, not Jason.
Simple solution, don't click on threads titled J Law.
Click the RD 5 ones.
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chuckie108 7/1/2013 5:46pm
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The ironic thing is, I raced REM a month ago, and the guy who took the photos (Dan Almangos) passed me twice using a cheater line in the back section. Nothing more frustrating than eating roost for a lap, making a pass, and then the guy cuts the track to get back ahead. So you eat roost for another half lap, make the pass, and then dude cuts the course again!! I passed him for the 3rd time and never saw him again thank goodness. And then to top it off, the next Monday they run a photo calling out Justin Hoeft (it is Justin right?) for using the same line. hahahaha!

That being said- that was my first race in 10+ years and I had an awesome time and I think REM run great events. The track was good fun, motos were long enough, and everyone seemed like good peeps in general. It was a blast and I can't wait to go back.
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steve_97060 7/1/2013 5:48pm
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if people who say they don't give a shit what Jason is doing really didn't give a shit, they wouldn't click on JLAW threads or comment in them.
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captmoto 7/1/2013 5:50pm
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Bytor wrote:
Jason has given lots to charities and was at the Lima Linda children's deal this year again I believe for Bauers deal. Try not to be...
Jason has given lots to charities and was at the Lima Linda children's deal this year again I believe for Bauers deal. Try not to be such a schmuck from now on.
I didn't see him there and my wife took pics of the rider and sponsor intros. He might have been at Lima Linda but he wasn't at Loma Linda. Nice try.
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anniebertzak 7/1/2013 6:09pm
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chuckie108 wrote:
The ironic thing is, I raced REM a month ago, and the guy who took the photos (Dan Almangos) passed me twice using a cheater line...
The ironic thing is, I raced REM a month ago, and the guy who took the photos (Dan Almangos) passed me twice using a cheater line in the back section. Nothing more frustrating than eating roost for a lap, making a pass, and then the guy cuts the track to get back ahead. So you eat roost for another half lap, make the pass, and then dude cuts the course again!! I passed him for the 3rd time and never saw him again thank goodness. And then to top it off, the next Monday they run a photo calling out Justin Hoeft (it is Justin right?) for using the same line. hahahaha!

That being said- that was my first race in 10+ years and I had an awesome time and I think REM run great events. The track was good fun, motos were long enough, and everyone seemed like good peeps in general. It was a blast and I can't wait to go back.
Don't think Dan took that photo - Frank wanted to get everybody out early due to the 100+ temps so he did a hurry up schedule. Dan could not of taken that photo,.. he was on the 2nd gate with the Int riders, Pro's were 1st gate last week, 1st race of a 5 race schedule.
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Seamorbutts wrote:
Say what you will, but Jason has had numerous chances and has wasted alot of peoples time and money.
TripleFive wrote:
I'm about Jason's age, at this point in my life I feel like I've also wasted a lot of people's time and money.
I'm older and have wasted a lot of time and a shitload of others and my own money

I had fun

Was it worth it?
Maybe, maybe not.
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All I meant was, when people blow things out of proportion (as MXA does in my opinion) it irritates me, and I no longer respect the offenders opinion and don't believe a word they say. EVERYONE who read that immediately though to themselves, "Same old Jason Lawrence, what a tard, what a waste, what a loser, etc" when he may (but probably not lol) be actually trying to stay out of trouble, and I'm sure potential sponsors thought the same thing. It also overshadowed his results, which J-Law definitely needs right now with where he is at, to show some solid results in racing (yes winning REM and battling with Leib is solid based on where Jlaw has been and how long he has been away). Same with Leib, he has been in a few fiascos, and honestly, EVERY pro has cut a course at one time in their career, is it bullshit, yes, do they deserve to be put on blast by the media for doing it one lap and being singled out when a lot of guys were doing the same thing in that very moto? In my opinion MXA is tabloid shit, and it hurts the sport, but everyone can think what they want. I'll personally stick to real MX news.
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Seamorbutts 7/1/2013 10:29pm
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Bytor wrote:
Jason has given lots to charities and was at the Lima Linda children's deal this year again I believe for Bauers deal. Try not to be...
Jason has given lots to charities and was at the Lima Linda children's deal this year again I believe for Bauers deal. Try not to be such a schmuck from now on.
captmoto wrote:
I didn't see him there and my wife took pics of the rider and sponsor intros. He might have been at Lima Linda but he wasn't...
I didn't see him there and my wife took pics of the rider and sponsor intros. He might have been at Lima Linda but he wasn't at Loma Linda. Nice try.
And there it is....Thanks for setting that one right good sir.
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project racer wrote:
When I read race results, and see a rider competing in an expert class, as well as a novice class on the same day, I always...
When I read race results, and see a rider competing in an expert class, as well as a novice class on the same day, I always wonder how that comes to happen. 60 + expert and vet novice ? Is it an age exception or something to be able to drop to novice for the vet class ?
I know at Pala someone can drop an age class and and also drop from novice to beginner, intermediate to novice, etc...

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doubleupnv wrote:
Your marketing point is one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Go ask Tiger Woods how bad press works in the corporate eye. Or...
Your marketing point is one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Go ask Tiger Woods how bad press works in the corporate eye. Or matter of fact ask Jlaw how bad press worked for him and the companies that sponsored him since he is in this subject. Bad press for an athlete is bad for everyone.
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you cant compare, mx to tiger woods.. at fucking all... get a clue man. and that's different to have your wife chase you out of a...
you cant compare, mx to tiger woods.. at fucking all... get a clue man.

and that's different to have your wife chase you out of a house, and crash a car into a fire hydrant and then a bunch of random mistress saying yea you got down with them... come on that's just dumb. (and tiger had the wholesome family image which makes things way worse in every aspect)

Jlaws bad press in flipping cars and going to jail is bad....on the flip side .getting into a little scuffle that nobody saw and nobody can get a accurate account of....Is good press.... its called being bad under the radar.... so people think you still have a edge etc.

For instance, Josh hansen has had some bad press...but now hes sponsored by fsas (famous stars and stripes) and a bunch of other company's that revel in his bad body image... hence "Twitch" Jeremy stenberg etc and i could go on and on.
doubleupnv wrote:
You are using Hanson as an example? Where is he riding now? How many teams gave up on him? Yeah his image really worked out well...
You are using Hanson as an example? Where is he riding now? How many teams gave up on him? Yeah his image really worked out well for him. Being sponsored by a company I have never heard of.

Name one rider who has had consistent bad press that is sponsored well in motocross or supercross? None. Not one.

Because the teams, clothing sponsors, helmets, goggles...all want that rider with a rider who is bad under the radar and has an edge.
think that ghost ride worked out well for deegan
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Bytor 7/2/2013 9:05am
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captmoto wrote:
I didn't see him there and my wife took pics of the rider and sponsor intros. He might have been at Lima Linda but he wasn't...
I didn't see him there and my wife took pics of the rider and sponsor intros. He might have been at Lima Linda but he wasn't at Loma Linda. Nice try.
Well if he missed this year I admit I was wrong on that one point. Fact is he's done lots of stuff for charities and if that's why someone is using it as a hating point they are wrong. Hate him for crashing cars or doing drugs but at least something that's true.
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project racer wrote:
When I read race results, and see a rider competing in an expert class, as well as a novice class on the same day, I always...
When I read race results, and see a rider competing in an expert class, as well as a novice class on the same day, I always wonder how that comes to happen. 60 + expert and vet novice ? Is it an age exception or something to be able to drop to novice for the vet class ?
a 60 expert would prob end up last in the regular novice class. I used to race Vet Int and 450 novice and it was pretty even speed wise.
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peelout 7/2/2013 9:52am
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JLaw does something that we all as fans love doing, racing a motorcycle, and you guys still shovel the shit on him for it?

what a fucking joke.

some of you clowns are just full of hate, pull your fuckin' heads out. pathetic.
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peelout wrote:
JLaw does something that we all as fans love doing, racing a motorcycle, and you guys still shovel the shit on him for it? what a...
JLaw does something that we all as fans love doing, racing a motorcycle, and you guys still shovel the shit on him for it?

what a fucking joke.

some of you clowns are just full of hate, pull your fuckin' heads out. pathetic.
True enough, I'll stop...
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peelout wrote:
JLaw does something that we all as fans love doing, racing a motorcycle, and you guys still shovel the shit on him for it? what a...
JLaw does something that we all as fans love doing, racing a motorcycle, and you guys still shovel the shit on him for it?

what a fucking joke.

some of you clowns are just full of hate, pull your fuckin' heads out. pathetic.
Your doing some hating yourself lol...you sound worked up buddy. I do agree w you but your wasting your finger mussles.
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Bauer 7/2/2013 1:38pm
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Bytor wrote:
Jason has given lots to charities and was at the Lima Linda children's deal this year again I believe for Bauers deal. Try not to be...
Jason has given lots to charities and was at the Lima Linda children's deal this year again I believe for Bauers deal. Try not to be such a schmuck from now on.
captmoto wrote:
I didn't see him there and my wife took pics of the rider and sponsor intros. He might have been at Lima Linda but he wasn't...
I didn't see him there and my wife took pics of the rider and sponsor intros. He might have been at Lima Linda but he wasn't at Loma Linda. Nice try.
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And there it is....Thanks for setting that one right good sir.
I only invite a half dozen Supercross riders to my Big Air Kid's Fair each year because that's all we have room for. Between Jeff Tilton's FMX guys who do the demo show, a few special guests, such as Ricky James, Andy Bell, Sarah Price, etc, and some industry friends who are major supporters, that's all I have room for. After the jump demo, we split into two groups and visit every kid in the hospital, handing out swag...it takes the entire afternoon and the hospital prefers I keep the group sizes reasonably small. It's rewarding, but it's also emotionally and even physically draining. Some guys have a really hard time with it and I understand that.

I try to invite new guys each year, but some folks, like Ronnie Renner, Andrew Short, Travis Baker, PJ Larsen, Ricky James, Jeremy McGrath and Sarah Price are just so awesome and personable with the kids that I pretty much give them a standing invitation...they're welcome any time.

For the record, I invited Jason Lawrence one year and he came, brought a bunch of shirts and hats, stayed the entire day and was great with the kids. I'd be happy to have him come again. From my experience he's a nice guy with a good heart. He also contributed $5,000 to the Magoo van fund, as someone mentioned. Pretty cool for a guy who was unemployed at the time.

I've also invited Ryan Dungey each of the past four years and haven't received a response that I can recall. The only thing worse than that is guys that flake out at the last minute.
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nytsmaC 7/2/2013 2:21pm
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doubleupnv wrote:
You are using Hanson as an example? Where is he riding now? How many teams gave up on him? Yeah his image really worked out well...
You are using Hanson as an example? Where is he riding now? How many teams gave up on him? Yeah his image really worked out well for him. Being sponsored by a company I have never heard of.

Name one rider who has had consistent bad press that is sponsored well in motocross or supercross? None. Not one.

Because the teams, clothing sponsors, helmets, goggles...all want that rider with a rider who is bad under the radar and has an edge.
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Hes doing xgames and making more money doing that, than finishing 15th in a main event... thats for damn sure. (and he can be seen with...
Hes doing xgames and making more money doing that, than finishing 15th in a main event... thats for damn sure. (and he can be seen with a beer)

And bad press depends on the eye of the beholder.
Are you seriously trying to say that bad publicity is good for these riders, because everyone wants to be the next Hansen?

Get a grip dude. I'm sure 99% of the racers this applies to want to win races and championships, not be a sideshow circus act.

I don't think Hansen wanted to be where he is now either, I assume he'd rather be in someone like Chad Reed's shoes. Not everyone can be a champion but to say that riders like Leib, etc should appreciate MXA trashing them for no good reason is fucking stupid.
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Bauer hit it right on the nail with this one. Everybody loves to blame somebody like J Law for every little detail. But it's things like this that nobody talks about. He made mistakes and did things wrong but he also has done alot of things right. And like said above also he is out riding when it's 100 degrees outside at a local race. I honestly wish he would try and make it all the way back because he's refreshing. But it's cool that he is still riding and racing when he feels like it.

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