Seriously, why doesn't Atlanta have 2 SX rounds

Edited Date/Time 2/21/2013 12:06pm
Atlanta is one of the most well attended stops on the circuit. It's located in a central area of the southeast where several major interestates converge. It is sold out year after year.

If Anaheim gets *3* races (and Cali... 5 in all?) why can't Atlanta get at least one of them?
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hey_man
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2/20/2013 9:41pm
Scheduling. The Georgia Dome is booked.
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2/20/2013 9:50pm
Good question. I'm sure they could find a place on the schedule for 70,000 ticket sales...
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I attended the ATL round last year and had a great time. Flew in from LAX, didn't need a car to get to the dome. I plan to go again in the future.

I assume it's a very successful event financially year after year, but can it support two races?
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Probably more fans than Jax and Orlando combined. Pretty sad they sell out for monster trucks down here and get barely a 1/3 full for SX.

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2/21/2013 5:06am
Could it support 2?? Hell yeh it could. I know ppl who would love to go twice. Gotta put atleast 3 weeks inbetween tho. But shit man we are hard to the core down here. And the pits set up is top notch indoors... Riders take an underground tunnel to Tue dome and nvr go outdoors... It's awesome. Well I think part of the tunnel has an open top but man I love that race. I always have a "mechanics" pass there cuz I know 2-3 locals trying to make the night show. But with all that said..... I won't be there this year due to getting a business started :/
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We're supposed to be getting a new stadium in the next couple of years. And they won't be tearing down the Georgia Dome, so it may be a possibility in the future to host multiple rounds here.
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nb11 wrote:
We're supposed to be getting a new stadium in the next couple of years. And they won't be tearing down the Georgia Dome, so it may...
We're supposed to be getting a new stadium in the next couple of years. And they won't be tearing down the Georgia Dome, so it may be a possibility in the future to host multiple rounds here.
Right. That would be awesome!
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2/21/2013 6:33am
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No offence, but then twice as much stuff would be stolen!

Seems like each year someone post ..... to be on the look out for bikes, trucks, vans, rigs etc., that got stolen during the ATL SX....

Take a buddy that will sleep with a shotgun and your stuff, just an idea....

Take your rain gear this year!

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Atlanta is one of the most well attended stops on the circuit. It's located in a central area of the southeast where several major interestates converge...
Atlanta is one of the most well attended stops on the circuit. It's located in a central area of the southeast where several major interestates converge. It is sold out year after year.

If Anaheim gets *3* races (and Cali... 5 in all?) why can't Atlanta get at least one of them?
Matthes, Weege, Ping, and JT$ have discussed this over and over on the PulpMx Radio Show, as well as the BTO Sports Race Recap show. Atlanta does sell out, the reason it can fill a 70,000 person stadium is because of the market it is capturing. Here's how they have explained it in their discussions.

Here's the Supercross scheduled, plotted on a map of the USA and some other race in that other country north of the US.


As you can see, there is a large area uncovered in the southeast except for Atlanta.


So, when the people in the southeast and eastern United States think about attending a Supercross, they have Atlanta. Because of the single race, people are much more willing to attend that race by traveling a greater distance, upwards of 9-12 hours of travel. People make a huge trip out of attending. This is expensive.

Yes, there are people that can afford that trip twice; however, a larger portion cannot. This means that stadium with a capacity of 70,000+ could potential cannibalize its own sales by having two races. The reason SoCal has so many is because the 4 races there are all within 100 miles. Everyone in that 100-120 mile radius can afford to travel to a race because they don't have a huge gas bill, or the cost of a hotel. Those folks are much more likely to attend multiple races.

I hope this helps. Oh now, I can see the flaming coming my way... oh no. It's going to hurt.
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good point.
I will give anyone that stays at the Days Inn downtown a warning right now.
If you leave your shit in your trucks/vans/trailers and it all gets stolen this Sat night, DO NOT post a "stolen bike from ATL" press release.
I still think the cops are in on it, becuse they never do anything about it.
Watch what happens.
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MX Culture wrote:
good point. I will give anyone that stays at the Days Inn downtown a warning right now. If you leave your shit in your trucks/vans/trailers and...
good point.
I will give anyone that stays at the Days Inn downtown a warning right now.
If you leave your shit in your trucks/vans/trailers and it all gets stolen this Sat night, DO NOT post a "stolen bike from ATL" press release.
I still think the cops are in on it, becuse they never do anything about it.
Watch what happens.
I have to ask, what would you like the cops to do about it? Too few officers trying to answer calls for service, and they're supposed to do what? If you're staying on private property, maybe the hotel should do something about it....
2/21/2013 10:22am
Atlanta is one of the most well attended stops on the circuit. It's located in a central area of the southeast where several major interestates converge...
Atlanta is one of the most well attended stops on the circuit. It's located in a central area of the southeast where several major interestates converge. It is sold out year after year.

If Anaheim gets *3* races (and Cali... 5 in all?) why can't Atlanta get at least one of them?
Even if the Georgia Dome was available for a 2nd round, they cant just simply pull a west coast round. They need 8 west and 8 east, and then or course LV.
2/21/2013 11:17am
Atlanta is one of the most well attended stops on the circuit. It's located in a central area of the southeast where several major interestates converge...
Atlanta is one of the most well attended stops on the circuit. It's located in a central area of the southeast where several major interestates converge. It is sold out year after year.

If Anaheim gets *3* races (and Cali... 5 in all?) why can't Atlanta get at least one of them?
TannerMxer wrote:
Matthes, Weege, Ping, and JT$ have discussed this over and over on the PulpMx Radio Show, as well as the BTO Sports Race Recap show. Atlanta...
Matthes, Weege, Ping, and JT$ have discussed this over and over on the PulpMx Radio Show, as well as the BTO Sports Race Recap show. Atlanta does sell out, the reason it can fill a 70,000 person stadium is because of the market it is capturing. Here's how they have explained it in their discussions.

Here's the Supercross scheduled, plotted on a map of the USA and some other race in that other country north of the US.


As you can see, there is a large area uncovered in the southeast except for Atlanta.


So, when the people in the southeast and eastern United States think about attending a Supercross, they have Atlanta. Because of the single race, people are much more willing to attend that race by traveling a greater distance, upwards of 9-12 hours of travel. People make a huge trip out of attending. This is expensive.

Yes, there are people that can afford that trip twice; however, a larger portion cannot. This means that stadium with a capacity of 70,000+ could potential cannibalize its own sales by having two races. The reason SoCal has so many is because the 4 races there are all within 100 miles. Everyone in that 100-120 mile radius can afford to travel to a race because they don't have a huge gas bill, or the cost of a hotel. Those folks are much more likely to attend multiple races.

I hope this helps. Oh now, I can see the flaming coming my way... oh no. It's going to hurt.
Huh? You're saying ATL can't support another race bc it pulls from such a large geographic region? Yet, SoCal can support multiple rounds bc the venues are so close together? Are you saying that the same person can go to 4 races per season without having to travel an insane amount? Maybe I'm missing something, but the fact that ATL is the only venue for such a large region is exactly why it could support another round.
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Every year we talk about this. It's cause Cali fills seats.
Hey look at a few other rounds that RARELY sell out. Take from one of them.
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Atlanta is one of the most well attended stops on the circuit. It's located in a central area of the southeast where several major interestates converge...
Atlanta is one of the most well attended stops on the circuit. It's located in a central area of the southeast where several major interestates converge. It is sold out year after year.

If Anaheim gets *3* races (and Cali... 5 in all?) why can't Atlanta get at least one of them?
TannerMxer wrote:
Matthes, Weege, Ping, and JT$ have discussed this over and over on the PulpMx Radio Show, as well as the BTO Sports Race Recap show. Atlanta...
Matthes, Weege, Ping, and JT$ have discussed this over and over on the PulpMx Radio Show, as well as the BTO Sports Race Recap show. Atlanta does sell out, the reason it can fill a 70,000 person stadium is because of the market it is capturing. Here's how they have explained it in their discussions.

Here's the Supercross scheduled, plotted on a map of the USA and some other race in that other country north of the US.


As you can see, there is a large area uncovered in the southeast except for Atlanta.


So, when the people in the southeast and eastern United States think about attending a Supercross, they have Atlanta. Because of the single race, people are much more willing to attend that race by traveling a greater distance, upwards of 9-12 hours of travel. People make a huge trip out of attending. This is expensive.

Yes, there are people that can afford that trip twice; however, a larger portion cannot. This means that stadium with a capacity of 70,000+ could potential cannibalize its own sales by having two races. The reason SoCal has so many is because the 4 races there are all within 100 miles. Everyone in that 100-120 mile radius can afford to travel to a race because they don't have a huge gas bill, or the cost of a hotel. Those folks are much more likely to attend multiple races.

I hope this helps. Oh now, I can see the flaming coming my way... oh no. It's going to hurt.
Huh? You're saying ATL can't support another race bc it pulls from such a large geographic region? Yet, SoCal can support multiple rounds bc the venues...
Huh? You're saying ATL can't support another race bc it pulls from such a large geographic region? Yet, SoCal can support multiple rounds bc the venues are so close together? Are you saying that the same person can go to 4 races per season without having to travel an insane amount? Maybe I'm missing something, but the fact that ATL is the only venue for such a large region is exactly why it could support another round.
Atlanta isn't supported completely by the greater Atlanta-area. The blue area in the maps I provided show the general area where people can travel from to go to Atlanta. Weege has spoke about this before; people traveling all the way from West Virginia or Virginia to get to Atlanta. We're talking about 300, 400, and sometimes 500 miles that people are traveling to get to that race. Those people aren't going to travel twice. That's like people saying they would drive from San Diego to Oakland twice within 2 months to go see a race. Yeah, people do it, but it is very unlikely.

IF Atlanta had a 2nd race added, there's a strong chance it would only sell 30-40k seats because those outliers are traveling a great distance again. Because of the size of the Georgia Dome, I bet it is a pretty penny to rent the place out. Selling 50-65% of the seats might not be worth it, financially, for Feld when they can have the race in Anaheim, knowing it will sell 85-90% of the tickets.

Look, I get it. The southeast wants another race. If that were the case, then why don't the Orlando, Jacksonville, or Tampa rounds of yesteryear sell out? It's because they aren't getting the mid-Atlantic fans driving down there. They can afford to travel for one race that is upwards of 500 miles. Florida may have motocross fans, but it is nowhere near the amount of motocross fans and casual fans that California has. Because of this, Southern California can nearly sell out 4 rounds.
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2/21/2013 12:01pm
As you can clearly see from the maps, the North East is the UNDERSERVED Market here. Huge metro populations that are in relatively close proximity, and not a race within 350 miles in the U.S.
Toronto, Canada round is closest and not in U.S.
Probably 30 million plus population for a low estimate in that region with no race on the SX schedule.
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2/21/2013 12:06pm
I know folks from NY, NJ, PA, DE, MD, VA, and NC that are driving or flying to the Atlanta race. Most are offroad woods racers and this is their only chance to see a SX race.... By the time Daytona rolls around our racing season has started.

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