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Journalist Code of Ethics (I direct this mostly at Jody)

1. Seek and report the truth. Professional journalists should be honest, fair and courteous in news gathering and reporting. The following things should be taken into consideration when gathering and reporting news: check the accuracy of all information and take necessary steps to avoid error, identify your sources when applicable and do not plagiarize are among the many things you should take into account.

2. Minimize harm and risk. Professional journalists should treat their sources and colleagues as humans and respect them. Lack of respect in any field, especially communications, can leave you jobless. A few things you should keep in mind when it comes to respect are: compassion, good taste, do not be arrogant, sensitivity and caution are among the things you should think about.

3. Be independent and accountable. One thing that stands out about journalist that may not be so obvious in other careers and those things are independence and accountability. Professional journalists should not feel obligated to interests other than that of your employer and the public's right to know. Also, journalists need to be accountable to their readers and colleagues. As a journalist, you should: avoid conflicts of interest, not accept gifts or anything of monetary value (other than your salary) in return for a story, admit your mistakes and correct them in a timely manner and always report in a clear, professional and timely manner.
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9/23/2012 1:07pm
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I never knew MX Journalism was such a cut throat industry Tongue
MX Journalism is a contradiction in terms like government intelligence.

BTW I wasn't sure if this thread could ever return to what the subject title states but lo and behold "thar she blows!". Now I just hope monkeys don't start flying out of my butt.
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watson wrote:
I never knew MX Journalism was such a cut throat industry Tongue
Bytor wrote:
It's not just journalism.
And what do you do for a living, so I can claim that what you're doing isn't valid? Wink
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Geoff

On Friday you sent me a bunch of acerbic emails criticising me for being 'negative', as you put it. I was not quite sure what had rattled your cage on this subject, as I haven't spoken to you or anyone else on this matter for a very long time, preferring instead to watch others debate. I do acknowledge though that after seeing your impending meltdown brewing on here I did initiate our email exchange by asking, in a humorous way (I hoped) whether you had 'sobered up yet'. Apologies if that touched a raw nerve. Nonetheless I was quite perplexed by your unprovoked hatchet job on me.

Your last email said "Go back to the forums Rob, you belong there more than I do." So, despite virtually never posting on forums any more (unlike you it appears) here I am, as requested. Hello.

Your last email also went on to state how much more money you make than I have ever done from motocross. I thought that was irrelevant, if not actually a little distasteful. But, hey, I say 'well done' to you. Super. Splendid. 'Living the Dream', as you put it.

As you go to very few races these days I presume that you were referring to the profits from your excellent e-magazine - you know, the one with Steve Cox's title. You've already admitted to the readers of this thread that your journalistic talents are limited. One can therefore only deduce that the success of this fine publication must be more down to the snappy title - Motocross Illustrated - than the content. I'm sure Steve will be thrilled to hear this.

Anyway, let's try to drag this thread back on topic shall we?

You have said, in your most positive way, that you believe that YS are doing a great job and that the GPs under Youthstream are blooming brilliant. And that your positive positive outlook is genuine, heartfelt, and in no way related to the fact that you're employed in doing journalistic work (despite claiming to not be a journalist) for said promoter.

Is that correct? Are you sure about that?

With best regards

Rob

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9/23/2012 1:48pm Edited Date/Time 9/23/2012 1:54pm
TeamGreen wrote:
When I read Jody's latest...& the 2010 era stuff...what I read is... "WTF? We AREN'T gettin' the Best Riders or The Best Tracks! We aren't even...
When I read Jody's latest...& the 2010 era stuff...what I read is...

"WTF? We AREN'T gettin' the Best Riders or The Best Tracks! We aren't even getting a full gate! I thought this guy was going go make it better? Where's the money? Where's the "Beef"?"

And, let us not forget that he has used & abused substantially MORE INK attacking the AMA, MX Sports and any OEM that pisses him off.

Btw, he puts plenty of Blame on Title Sponsors, OEMs & even some of the Elite riders for supporting all this madness thru their own ignorance.

Jeeeeeze!

You guys are making me sound like some kinda Jody fan. What's next...? Guess I'll start racin' REM every Saturday & wearing an Orange helmet!

Or not...

I'm jus' comprehendin'...
Yup, Jody seems to knock everyone outside his circle pretty equally.

I'm still waiting hear what I spun and what I diverted attention from.




I'm going to need a chart pretty soon to keep track of who's with whom.
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9/23/2012 1:50pm Edited Date/Time 9/23/2012 1:51pm
Yup, Jody seems to knock everyone outside his circle pretty equally. I'm still waiting hear what I spun and what I diverted attention from. I'm going...
Yup, Jody seems to knock everyone outside his circle pretty equally.

I'm still waiting hear what I spun and what I diverted attention from.




I'm going to need a chart pretty soon to keep track of who's with whom.
How much time have you got? You may be waiting a while. Smile
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Robgvx wrote:
Geoff On Friday you sent me a bunch of acerbic emails criticising me for being 'negative', as you put it. I was not quite sure what...
Geoff

On Friday you sent me a bunch of acerbic emails criticising me for being 'negative', as you put it. I was not quite sure what had rattled your cage on this subject, as I haven't spoken to you or anyone else on this matter for a very long time, preferring instead to watch others debate. I do acknowledge though that after seeing your impending meltdown brewing on here I did initiate our email exchange by asking, in a humorous way (I hoped) whether you had 'sobered up yet'. Apologies if that touched a raw nerve. Nonetheless I was quite perplexed by your unprovoked hatchet job on me.

Your last email said "Go back to the forums Rob, you belong there more than I do." So, despite virtually never posting on forums any more (unlike you it appears) here I am, as requested. Hello.

Your last email also went on to state how much more money you make than I have ever done from motocross. I thought that was irrelevant, if not actually a little distasteful. But, hey, I say 'well done' to you. Super. Splendid. 'Living the Dream', as you put it.

As you go to very few races these days I presume that you were referring to the profits from your excellent e-magazine - you know, the one with Steve Cox's title. You've already admitted to the readers of this thread that your journalistic talents are limited. One can therefore only deduce that the success of this fine publication must be more down to the snappy title - Motocross Illustrated - than the content. I'm sure Steve will be thrilled to hear this.

Anyway, let's try to drag this thread back on topic shall we?

You have said, in your most positive way, that you believe that YS are doing a great job and that the GPs under Youthstream are blooming brilliant. And that your positive positive outlook is genuine, heartfelt, and in no way related to the fact that you're employed in doing journalistic work (despite claiming to not be a journalist) for said promoter.

Is that correct? Are you sure about that?

With best regards

Rob
Fuck you are an asshole Rob, you forgot to mention you sent me that MXA article and asked which one I was, refering to the bit about european journalists. Piss off and stop being a negative prick.
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Yup, Jody seems to knock everyone outside his circle pretty equally. I'm still waiting hear what I spun and what I diverted attention from. I'm going...
Yup, Jody seems to knock everyone outside his circle pretty equally.

I'm still waiting hear what I spun and what I diverted attention from.




I'm going to need a chart pretty soon to keep track of who's with whom.
GuyB wrote:
How much time have you got? You may be waiting a while. Smile
Well, I'll die eventually, but I'm assuming someone had something specific in mind to make the accusation, like a fact that was wrong or the subject I supposedly tried to change or hide. So I'm all ears.
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watson wrote:
I never knew MX Journalism was such a cut throat industry Tongue
Bytor wrote:
It's not just journalism.
GuyB wrote:
And what do you do for a living, so I can claim that what you're doing isn't valid? Wink
My post was meant to say the whole Motocross industry was cutthroat. Sorry for the Confusion.
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Bytor wrote:
My post was meant to say the whole Motocross industry was cutthroat. Sorry for the Confusion.
Fair enough. Smile

People seem to think cutthroat is limited to one industry. I'd guess that people from just about any industry could give examples of the same in their corner of the world.
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First off, this is awesome. Second, Nerd says "Stop slandering me, ALL I said is you are a dick and you look like one" and in...
First off, this is awesome.

Second, Nerd says "Stop slandering me, ALL I said is you are a dick and you look like one" and in typical Nerd fashion, he's amazed Geoff is now upset.

Thirdly, when it comes to Jody it's an hilarious thing to hear his friends and people that know him always say "I know, I know, but seriously, he's a good dude" - past co-workers, industry people- no matter who it is, they always temper their comments about him being a good guy by referencing all the shitty things he's written about. What about just being a good guy and showing up to defend what you write?

You don't hear that stuff from people about GuyB or DC or whatever, you're a good guy or you're not and the fact that even his closest friends have to qualify their defense of him tells you all you need to know.
I told Jiff Maya that same thing when I saw him last year in France. It's not new to him. I said it to his face. Just FYI.
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Robgvx wrote:
Geoff On Friday you sent me a bunch of acerbic emails criticising me for being 'negative', as you put it. I was not quite sure what...
Geoff

On Friday you sent me a bunch of acerbic emails criticising me for being 'negative', as you put it. I was not quite sure what had rattled your cage on this subject, as I haven't spoken to you or anyone else on this matter for a very long time, preferring instead to watch others debate. I do acknowledge though that after seeing your impending meltdown brewing on here I did initiate our email exchange by asking, in a humorous way (I hoped) whether you had 'sobered up yet'. Apologies if that touched a raw nerve. Nonetheless I was quite perplexed by your unprovoked hatchet job on me.

Your last email said "Go back to the forums Rob, you belong there more than I do." So, despite virtually never posting on forums any more (unlike you it appears) here I am, as requested. Hello.

Your last email also went on to state how much more money you make than I have ever done from motocross. I thought that was irrelevant, if not actually a little distasteful. But, hey, I say 'well done' to you. Super. Splendid. 'Living the Dream', as you put it.

As you go to very few races these days I presume that you were referring to the profits from your excellent e-magazine - you know, the one with Steve Cox's title. You've already admitted to the readers of this thread that your journalistic talents are limited. One can therefore only deduce that the success of this fine publication must be more down to the snappy title - Motocross Illustrated - than the content. I'm sure Steve will be thrilled to hear this.

Anyway, let's try to drag this thread back on topic shall we?

You have said, in your most positive way, that you believe that YS are doing a great job and that the GPs under Youthstream are blooming brilliant. And that your positive positive outlook is genuine, heartfelt, and in no way related to the fact that you're employed in doing journalistic work (despite claiming to not be a journalist) for said promoter.

Is that correct? Are you sure about that?

With best regards

Rob
mxgeoff wrote:
Fuck you are an asshole Rob, you forgot to mention you sent me that MXA article and asked which one I was, refering to the bit...
Fuck you are an asshole Rob, you forgot to mention you sent me that MXA article and asked which one I was, refering to the bit about european journalists. Piss off and stop being a negative prick.
That last sentence is awesome, Jiff Maya.

I love irony.
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9/23/2012 2:08pm
Hell Bent for Leather*

That's the new Forum Category for this type of Thread.

* Copyright Judas Priest (Since we're dealing with those issues, too)
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DL wrote:
Journalist Code of Ethics (I direct this mostly at Jody) 1. Seek and report the truth. Professional journalists should be honest, fair and courteous in news...
Journalist Code of Ethics (I direct this mostly at Jody)

1. Seek and report the truth. Professional journalists should be honest, fair and courteous in news gathering and reporting. The following things should be taken into consideration when gathering and reporting news: check the accuracy of all information and take necessary steps to avoid error, identify your sources when applicable and do not plagiarize are among the many things you should take into account.

2. Minimize harm and risk. Professional journalists should treat their sources and colleagues as humans and respect them. Lack of respect in any field, especially communications, can leave you jobless. A few things you should keep in mind when it comes to respect are: compassion, good taste, do not be arrogant, sensitivity and caution are among the things you should think about.

3. Be independent and accountable. One thing that stands out about journalist that may not be so obvious in other careers and those things are independence and accountability. Professional journalists should not feel obligated to interests other than that of your employer and the public's right to know. Also, journalists need to be accountable to their readers and colleagues. As a journalist, you should: avoid conflicts of interest, not accept gifts or anything of monetary value (other than your salary) in return for a story, admit your mistakes and correct them in a timely manner and always report in a clear, professional and timely manner.
I think most of Jody's works are editorials, not journalistic pieces.
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Whats the record for pages in a thread ? C'mon guys you can do this.Smile
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DL wrote:
Journalist Code of Ethics (I direct this mostly at Jody) 1. Seek and report the truth. Professional journalists should be honest, fair and courteous in news...
Journalist Code of Ethics (I direct this mostly at Jody)

1. Seek and report the truth. Professional journalists should be honest, fair and courteous in news gathering and reporting. The following things should be taken into consideration when gathering and reporting news: check the accuracy of all information and take necessary steps to avoid error, identify your sources when applicable and do not plagiarize are among the many things you should take into account.

2. Minimize harm and risk. Professional journalists should treat their sources and colleagues as humans and respect them. Lack of respect in any field, especially communications, can leave you jobless. A few things you should keep in mind when it comes to respect are: compassion, good taste, do not be arrogant, sensitivity and caution are among the things you should think about.

3. Be independent and accountable. One thing that stands out about journalist that may not be so obvious in other careers and those things are independence and accountability. Professional journalists should not feel obligated to interests other than that of your employer and the public's right to know. Also, journalists need to be accountable to their readers and colleagues. As a journalist, you should: avoid conflicts of interest, not accept gifts or anything of monetary value (other than your salary) in return for a story, admit your mistakes and correct them in a timely manner and always report in a clear, professional and timely manner.
APLMAN99 wrote:
I think most of Jody's works are editorials, not journalistic pieces.
Dude,

Plese Edit this!

You're going to De-Rail the Crazy Train!

Geeeze
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We got winners
, We got losers,
Chain smokers and boozers,
We got yuppies,
We got bikers,
We got thirsty hitchhikers.
And the girls next door dress up like movie stars
. Mmmm, I love this bar.
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Bytor wrote:
My post was meant to say the whole Motocross industry was cutthroat. Sorry for the Confusion.
GuyB wrote:
Fair enough. :) People seem to think cutthroat is limited to one industry. I'd guess that people from just about any industry could give examples of...
Fair enough. Smile

People seem to think cutthroat is limited to one industry. I'd guess that people from just about any industry could give examples of the same in their corner of the world.
Exactly. All business is cutthroat and even more now in the economic position the world is in.
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9/23/2012 2:33pm Edited Date/Time 9/23/2012 2:33pm
Robgvx wrote:
Geoff On Friday you sent me a bunch of acerbic emails criticising me for being 'negative', as you put it. I was not quite sure what...
Geoff

On Friday you sent me a bunch of acerbic emails criticising me for being 'negative', as you put it. I was not quite sure what had rattled your cage on this subject, as I haven't spoken to you or anyone else on this matter for a very long time, preferring instead to watch others debate. I do acknowledge though that after seeing your impending meltdown brewing on here I did initiate our email exchange by asking, in a humorous way (I hoped) whether you had 'sobered up yet'. Apologies if that touched a raw nerve. Nonetheless I was quite perplexed by your unprovoked hatchet job on me.

Your last email said "Go back to the forums Rob, you belong there more than I do." So, despite virtually never posting on forums any more (unlike you it appears) here I am, as requested. Hello.

Your last email also went on to state how much more money you make than I have ever done from motocross. I thought that was irrelevant, if not actually a little distasteful. But, hey, I say 'well done' to you. Super. Splendid. 'Living the Dream', as you put it.

As you go to very few races these days I presume that you were referring to the profits from your excellent e-magazine - you know, the one with Steve Cox's title. You've already admitted to the readers of this thread that your journalistic talents are limited. One can therefore only deduce that the success of this fine publication must be more down to the snappy title - Motocross Illustrated - than the content. I'm sure Steve will be thrilled to hear this.

Anyway, let's try to drag this thread back on topic shall we?

You have said, in your most positive way, that you believe that YS are doing a great job and that the GPs under Youthstream are blooming brilliant. And that your positive positive outlook is genuine, heartfelt, and in no way related to the fact that you're employed in doing journalistic work (despite claiming to not be a journalist) for said promoter.

Is that correct? Are you sure about that?

With best regards

Rob
mxgeoff wrote:
Fuck you are an asshole Rob, you forgot to mention you sent me that MXA article and asked which one I was, refering to the bit...
Fuck you are an asshole Rob, you forgot to mention you sent me that MXA article and asked which one I was, refering to the bit about european journalists. Piss off and stop being a negative prick.
Epic thread so far.
It's always nice when Rob drops by with a little bit of roost & some epic bar-dragging. Smile

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If NutterButter chimes in, we definitely have a quorum ! Grinning
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If NutterButter chimes in, we definitely have a quorum ! Grinning
I'll take it one step farther....
Then Slavo could chime in and ask her for tit pics. Smile

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mxgeoff wrote:
Fuck you are an asshole Rob, you forgot to mention you sent me that MXA article and asked which one I was, refering to the bit...
Fuck you are an asshole Rob, you forgot to mention you sent me that MXA article and asked which one I was, refering to the bit about european journalists. Piss off and stop being a negative prick.
Now, that's not a very nice thing to say Geoff.

Anyway, at least I know the reason you're pissed at me. Yes, I did ask you which of the three types of journalist mentioned in the MXA article you are. Which, you will recall, was moments after you posted "what a wanker", out of the blue, on one of my Facebook photos. Which was also not a nice thing to do.

Anyway, perhaps, if you write me a nice apology, I'll refrain from showing Nerd what real irony is.

Choose wisely Geoff.
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9/23/2012 2:54pm Edited Date/Time 9/23/2012 2:54pm
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How much time have you got? You may be waiting a while. Smile
Two things:

1) You wrote the truth here.

2) Sometimes the only way to win is by not playing. I'm disengaging from this radio frequency. Over and out.
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9/23/2012 3:01pm Edited Date/Time 9/23/2012 3:01pm
The Rock wrote:
Two things: 1) You wrote the truth here. 2) Sometimes the only way to win is by not playing. I'm disengaging from this radio frequency. Over...
Two things:

1) You wrote the truth here.

2) Sometimes the only way to win is by not playing. I'm disengaging from this radio frequency. Over and out.
#2 is a quote which partially paraphrases dialogue in one of the final scenes in 'War Games'. Seems apt, with all that's been going down on this thread.
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9/23/2012 3:07pm Edited Date/Time 9/23/2012 3:08pm
GuyB wrote:
How much time have you got? You may be waiting a while. Smile
The Rock wrote:
Two things: 1) You wrote the truth here. 2) Sometimes the only way to win is by not playing. I'm disengaging from this radio frequency. Over...
Two things:

1) You wrote the truth here.

2) Sometimes the only way to win is by not playing. I'm disengaging from this radio frequency. Over and out.
Okay, I get it. You're going to accuse me of spinning some fact and diverting attention from some issue or event, but not explain that.

What is it that you were trying to get at that I was diverting attention from.

Love how you have disengaged from this frequency, but pinned a link to this thread at the top at MT. Epic moderating there. Am I more likely to get an answer at that frequency?
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Okay, I get it. You're going to accuse me of spinning some fact and diverting attention from some issue or event, but not explain that. What...
Okay, I get it. You're going to accuse me of spinning some fact and diverting attention from some issue or event, but not explain that.

What is it that you were trying to get at that I was diverting attention from.

Love how you have disengaged from this frequency, but pinned a link to this thread at the top at MT. Epic moderating there. Am I more likely to get an answer at that frequency?
Hey maybe pinning this thread there will get some traffic in that ghost town. Seriously though that's pretty pathetic.
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You guys like my new sig?
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Instead of buying Nerd's copyright to the name Motocross Illustrated, I think I'll just copyright the name Racer X Action and be original.
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Hey TFS, do you still have a ponytail? You and Rigdon rolling through Europe with your ponytails blowing in the wind inside your Fiat convertible sounds epic.
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Okay, I get it. You're going to accuse me of spinning some fact and diverting attention from some issue or event, but not explain that. What...
Okay, I get it. You're going to accuse me of spinning some fact and diverting attention from some issue or event, but not explain that.

What is it that you were trying to get at that I was diverting attention from.

Love how you have disengaged from this frequency, but pinned a link to this thread at the top at MT. Epic moderating there. Am I more likely to get an answer at that frequency?
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Hey maybe pinning this thread there will get some traffic in that ghost town. Seriously though that's pretty pathetic.
At least it's pinned with this bit of context from camp narcissism.

http://www.motonews.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=4&func=view&id=215589&catid=4

Poor Hutch.

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