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IWreckALot 8/8/2012 4:45am
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FIREfish148 wrote:
I'm not gonna lie, but I sure missed seeing the kid ride at washougal this year. I don't get where people get off by getting all...
I'm not gonna lie, but I sure missed seeing the kid ride at washougal this year. I don't get where people get off by getting all super mad that hes not racing southwick. There's still 2 gates full of really fast riders to watch. Chill out with that lame shit.
Southwick is when Stewart originally said he aimed to be back by so I think that's where the expectation of wick is coming from.

That and Southwick is the only track of it's kind on the circuit. I was hoping JS7 would be back by then just to get to see how he rides it. He has a unique style and combine that with a unique track, it would have been fun to watch and see who is more effective on that track. Dungey or Stewart. Dungey rode like a mad man last year from a lap down.

For giggles, I think he should try to go a lap down again this year and see how many people he can catch again. I'd say he would catch back up to 4th. Dowd will be in 4th showing him the fast lines. Ha.
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IWreckALot 8/8/2012 4:49am
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Not a shocker. I've been telling you guys this for a week. They want to come back for the final three races. In the meantime, it'd...
Not a shocker. I've been telling you guys this for a week.

They want to come back for the final three races. In the meantime, it'd be helpful if the Team Yoshimura Suzuki Racing semi was on the east coast, rather than at their race shop in California. It's a team decision.
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Yep, come back while Dungey is in protective mode(actually, isn't he always in protective mode??) or when Dungey has already wrapped the C/ship up and won't...
Yep, come back while Dungey is in protective mode(actually, isn't he always in protective mode??) or when Dungey has already wrapped the C/ship up and won't be willing to risk it mixing it up with James. He'll be able to run up front and get that confidence back. A well healed Stewart with a little confidence on a good handling bike in SX 2013? Could make for an EPIC A1. Of course that "perfect storm" at A1 has missed the mark the last several years. There's always next year !!
I get the impression that Dungey is eager to beat Stewart in a head to head battle. Where James doesn't go down and just beat him with pure speed. I don't think he'll ever get the same aggression as Stewart but I believe that Dungey thinks he can progress to a speed that he can beat Stewart and everyone else for that matter based on speed without aggression.
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bobby397 8/8/2012 6:22am
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I figured he said f-it after not getting the call about MXDN
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newmann 8/8/2012 6:48am
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Or repetitive Alessi stuff. Or repetitve Dungey stuff. Or two-stroke vs. four-stroke. I was experimenting with drafting a post earlier today that said, "Jeez, who are...
Or repetitive Alessi stuff. Or repetitve Dungey stuff. Or two-stroke vs. four-stroke. I was experimenting with drafting a post earlier today that said, "Jeez, who are you people, and when did the sport get so divided?"
When did the sport get so divided?

You can thank the AMA and the OEM's for that. Lot of brain dead action required in the killing off of the 125 class and the near extinction of a much needed bike. Kids going from a 143 lb. 85 to a 231 lb. 250f sounds to me like The Great Divide.

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sharkey 8/8/2012 7:01am
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FIREfish148 wrote:
I'm not gonna lie, but I sure missed seeing the kid ride at washougal this year. I don't get where people get off by getting all...
I'm not gonna lie, but I sure missed seeing the kid ride at washougal this year. I don't get where people get off by getting all super mad that hes not racing southwick. There's still 2 gates full of really fast riders to watch. Chill out with that lame shit.
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Same here. He'd have made the show better for sure. But Alessi and Dungey put on a pretty good show of their own...and the 250s have...
Same here. He'd have made the show better for sure. But Alessi and Dungey put on a pretty good show of their own...and the 250s have been stellar all season.
that was the best race of the year barring the first two where stewart was at. im just glad i got to see it in person
keeptwostrokesalive 8/8/2012 7:13am
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I think hes making the right choice. The outdoor title has already left his grasp so why rush his return when he needs to stay healthy for supercross.
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LoudLove 8/8/2012 7:21am
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Interesting. It's been a month since Stewart's last race, with a 3rd overall at Red Bud. The bike is fine (as evidenced by the year's first races), and it's unlikely that JS has concerns about matching Dungey's pace. That only leaves the wrist, and James' tweet indicates he's not making the call about Southwick.

From the Stewart Camp's perspective, racing Southwick (or the rest of the nationals for that matter) could offer more risk than reward. The final three events will provide "race" experience and perhaps a spike in TV ratings, but a repeat of his crash in Colorado could expedite the end of his racing career. If it has not already.
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tns 8/8/2012 7:42am
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All races offer more risk than reward.He should get out there and do it for the fans.He sure as hell doesn't need the money anymore.
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IceMan446 8/8/2012 7:54am
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I just don't understand how he's not ready to race, i would have thought something would be wrong in order for him to not be at...
I just don't understand how he's not ready to race, i would have thought something would be wrong in order for him to not be at the gate.
Think about it for a second.

Didnt Suzuki just have a new bike come out? And didn't James JUST join the team a few months back.

And didnt he say his MAIN focus was 2013?

So who would be testing the '13 bike for SX? Because Metty is hurt. And James more then likely hasnt had much time on that bike for SX, If any at all.

So I am guessing that they want a little testing in before the end of the Nats and then he can ride the last few, test some more and be ready to go by A1.

GuyB said it was a TEAM decision and that would mean whats best for the Team in 2013. Has nothing to do with him not being ready to go.
Lawrence929 8/8/2012 8:34am
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Or repetitive Alessi stuff. Or repetitve Dungey stuff. Or two-stroke vs. four-stroke. I was experimenting with drafting a post earlier today that said, "Jeez, who are...
Or repetitive Alessi stuff. Or repetitve Dungey stuff. Or two-stroke vs. four-stroke. I was experimenting with drafting a post earlier today that said, "Jeez, who are you people, and when did the sport get so divided?"
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When did the sport get so divided? You can thank the AMA and the OEM's for that. Lot of brain dead action required in the killing...
When did the sport get so divided?

You can thank the AMA and the OEM's for that. Lot of brain dead action required in the killing off of the 125 class and the near extinction of a much needed bike. Kids going from a 143 lb. 85 to a 231 lb. 250f sounds to me like The Great Divide.
While I agree with you fully, I think Guy is saying we need to collude a touch and GET ALONG about the topics. Divided means 4T guys are on one side and 2T guys are on another. I for one have a leg on both sides... so I see the issues to both. But we should just talk appropriately about it and not get so fired up. I am in no way singling you out on that or directing that towards you, Newmann. And no matter what each of us rides... the big question everyone is forgetting...

Did you have fun riding today?

If yes, proceed as scheduled.

If no, make changes.

Am I wrong?
panic revver 8/8/2012 8:37am
8/8/2012 8:37am
tns wrote:
All races offer more risk than reward.He should get out there and do it for the fans.He sure as hell doesn't need the money anymore.
Maybe he is looking further down the road than a race for "the fans". He does plenty of shit for the fans if you look for positives instead of negatives.
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jeffro503 8/8/2012 8:38am
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Well hopefully we'll see him at the last three rounds and that wrist is feeling pretty good. I don't want to see him rush it and mess it up again. And hopefully if it does hold up and he does well.......maybe Roger will look into taking James to the MXon's? I don't see why not if he is healthy and is still riding a good pace.

I would think the main goal is to just have him there at A1.....focused , healthy and ready to race.
panic revver 8/8/2012 8:49am
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Well hopefully we'll see him at the last three rounds and that wrist is feeling pretty good. I don't want to see him rush it and...
Well hopefully we'll see him at the last three rounds and that wrist is feeling pretty good. I don't want to see him rush it and mess it up again. And hopefully if it does hold up and he does well.......maybe Roger will look into taking James to the MXon's? I don't see why not if he is healthy and is still riding a good pace.

I would think the main goal is to just have him there at A1.....focused , healthy and ready to race.
I doubt JS and the MXdN is even an option for Roger or JS, but who knows.
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karnivool 8/8/2012 9:22am
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NateDawg122 wrote:
Well that gets rid of about 95% of people on this forum. It's obvious kjs and perry have their opinion on the subject, so let them...
Well that gets rid of about 95% of people on this forum. It's obvious kjs and perry have their opinion on the subject, so let them have their opinion. I think people are just getting frustrated with this same old story with Stewart, whether it's true or not.
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You know, I'd actually prefer that a lot of people who think they know what's up (or just like trying to stir stuff up for no...
You know, I'd actually prefer that a lot of people who think they know what's up (or just like trying to stir stuff up for no reason) being replaced with people who really do know what's up. It'd make for much more interesting reading.
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I definitely get where you're coming from. Like I said I think people are just getting ticked about the repetitive Stewart stuff regardless of truth. Leads...
I definitely get where you're coming from. Like I said I think people are just getting ticked about the repetitive Stewart stuff regardless of truth. Leads to a lot of speculation without facts. Honestly, the only person that truly knows is James himself. The rest of us just speculate. Add this to the fact that there has been no motocross action in two weeks and you get rash comments from bored and anxious keyboard racers.
you see NateDawg122 this is the BS that i can't stand. Show me a press release where 7 said he was IN for Southwick and then you can be disappointed when he doesn't show...i never saw a thing about when he was coming back...he may have said 'i hope to be back by...' but that doesn't mean go buy tickets...duh...if you believe twitter to be 'official' then maybe you should stop following and starting reading news publications instead...

why is no one mad that 41, 22, 2, and others aren't riding when they have all been cleared to get back on the bike...7 doesn't seem to get the same courtesy...he was whooping, he crashed, he came back and tried again...wasn't ready, now he is getting ready...seems like the natural part of the process to me...but haters will hate...
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chrisbuehler 8/8/2012 9:38am
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you see NateDawg122 this is the BS that i can't stand. Show me a press release where 7 said he was IN for Southwick and then...
you see NateDawg122 this is the BS that i can't stand. Show me a press release where 7 said he was IN for Southwick and then you can be disappointed when he doesn't show...i never saw a thing about when he was coming back...he may have said 'i hope to be back by...' but that doesn't mean go buy tickets...duh...if you believe twitter to be 'official' then maybe you should stop following and starting reading news publications instead...

why is no one mad that 41, 22, 2, and others aren't riding when they have all been cleared to get back on the bike...7 doesn't seem to get the same courtesy...he was whooping, he crashed, he came back and tried again...wasn't ready, now he is getting ready...seems like the natural part of the process to me...but haters will hate...
Nice post. I'm bummed I dont get to see him at Southwick especially because I will be there. But it doesnt mean I'm gonna shit all over the guy because he's not ready. The hate for this guy makes me want to cheer for him more. From what I have seen of him on the Zook, he meshes well with it. He's far from done so pile on while you can
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tvo314 8/8/2012 9:40am
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That's too bad, I'd love to see him out there, but I don't see why we don't just give him the benefit of the doubt. He obviously hurt his wrist, so if he and the team decide to wait for it to heal a bit more good for them. Why does that bother some people? So what, he goes really fast and sometimes crashes really hard. This means sometimes (ok maybe a lot) we have to be a little bit patient. I'm sure he would love to be out there racing with RD5, but I believe them if they think that's not the best idea right now.
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peelout 8/8/2012 9:44am
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shitty, was hoping to see him blast some 'Wick-ed sand berms
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YZach 8/8/2012 9:46am
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If he still wants to race a national, I believe he should just wait until Elsinore to make his return; it won't get rough and he's familiar with the layout.

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TDeath21 8/8/2012 9:47am
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tvo314 wrote:
That's too bad, I'd love to see him out there, but I don't see why we don't just give him the benefit of the doubt. He...
That's too bad, I'd love to see him out there, but I don't see why we don't just give him the benefit of the doubt. He obviously hurt his wrist, so if he and the team decide to wait for it to heal a bit more good for them. Why does that bother some people? So what, he goes really fast and sometimes crashes really hard. This means sometimes (ok maybe a lot) we have to be a little bit patient. I'm sure he would love to be out there racing with RD5, but I believe them if they think that's not the best idea right now.
Everyone here knows it was Stewart's decision. It just sounds better to people I guess if he says it was a team decision. If Stewart wanted to ride, the team wouldn't keep him from it. Trust me. That being said, if I were him I would not risk anything in the MX series and get ready for SX and come out strong at the MEC or A1.
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BobTheBuilder 8/8/2012 9:57am
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I thought it was interesting James was in California and not practicing at home in the sand. Speculation here....I bet the decision has already been made on the MXoN, once Roger shut that down there is nothing to race for and Suzuki decided the time was better spent testing in California.

James had stated before the outdoors it was just for fun and to prepare for 2013. For whatever reason, I'd like to know why, he never planned on making a title run. The way I see it he is taking a casual attitude toward a season he never intended to take nothing more than casually. No harm no foul. I bet the MXoN exclusion stings though.....
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robkinuk 8/8/2012 10:02am
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Maybe they make em tougher in Europe? Wink Check out the other thread on Jeff Herlings car crash pictures! Shocked Tough dutch kid was back racing within 2 weeks after fracturing a bone in his forehead, cracked ribs etc! He even dominated both MX2 moto's at Locket MXGP after chewing down pain killers and racing. He seem's to have matured a lot since his early season meltdown at Agueda GP.Smile
I supose when your 17 years old well on the way to winning your first world championship, I guess you have more motivation?
Perhaps there is more to James absense than meet's the eye?Unsure
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Predator 8/8/2012 10:02am
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karnivool wrote:
you see NateDawg122 this is the BS that i can't stand. Show me a press release where 7 said he was IN for Southwick and then...
you see NateDawg122 this is the BS that i can't stand. Show me a press release where 7 said he was IN for Southwick and then you can be disappointed when he doesn't show...i never saw a thing about when he was coming back...he may have said 'i hope to be back by...' but that doesn't mean go buy tickets...duh...if you believe twitter to be 'official' then maybe you should stop following and starting reading news publications instead...

why is no one mad that 41, 22, 2, and others aren't riding when they have all been cleared to get back on the bike...7 doesn't seem to get the same courtesy...he was whooping, he crashed, he came back and tried again...wasn't ready, now he is getting ready...seems like the natural part of the process to me...but haters will hate...
NateDawg122 8/8/2012 10:10am
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GuyB wrote:
You know, I'd actually prefer that a lot of people who think they know what's up (or just like trying to stir stuff up for no...
You know, I'd actually prefer that a lot of people who think they know what's up (or just like trying to stir stuff up for no reason) being replaced with people who really do know what's up. It'd make for much more interesting reading.
NateDawg122 wrote:
I definitely get where you're coming from. Like I said I think people are just getting ticked about the repetitive Stewart stuff regardless of truth. Leads...
I definitely get where you're coming from. Like I said I think people are just getting ticked about the repetitive Stewart stuff regardless of truth. Leads to a lot of speculation without facts. Honestly, the only person that truly knows is James himself. The rest of us just speculate. Add this to the fact that there has been no motocross action in two weeks and you get rash comments from bored and anxious keyboard racers.
karnivool wrote:
you see NateDawg122 this is the BS that i can't stand. Show me a press release where 7 said he was IN for Southwick and then...
you see NateDawg122 this is the BS that i can't stand. Show me a press release where 7 said he was IN for Southwick and then you can be disappointed when he doesn't show...i never saw a thing about when he was coming back...he may have said 'i hope to be back by...' but that doesn't mean go buy tickets...duh...if you believe twitter to be 'official' then maybe you should stop following and starting reading news publications instead...

why is no one mad that 41, 22, 2, and others aren't riding when they have all been cleared to get back on the bike...7 doesn't seem to get the same courtesy...he was whooping, he crashed, he came back and tried again...wasn't ready, now he is getting ready...seems like the natural part of the process to me...but haters will hate...
What has your panties in a wad dude?! I said people are getting ticked about the repetitive Stewart stuff REGARDLESS OF TRUTH! I was referring to the constant wrist problems and not returning when planned. I meant that we are all anxious to see him race again and it gets frustrating when that return gets delayed for whatever reason. I wasn't attacking Stewart and I wasn't calling him a liar about his wrist injuries. Do you know why? Because I don't know the extent of his injuries, none of us do. So why don't you just chill before calling me out again? Read more carefully next time.
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beamer 8/8/2012 10:32am
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Sucks for sure........

I was just looking forward to him bustin some berms and pulling some sweet wheelies thru the sand whips
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karnivool 8/8/2012 11:16am
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NateDawg122 wrote:
I definitely get where you're coming from. Like I said I think people are just getting ticked about the repetitive Stewart stuff regardless of truth. Leads...
I definitely get where you're coming from. Like I said I think people are just getting ticked about the repetitive Stewart stuff regardless of truth. Leads to a lot of speculation without facts. Honestly, the only person that truly knows is James himself. The rest of us just speculate. Add this to the fact that there has been no motocross action in two weeks and you get rash comments from bored and anxious keyboard racers.
karnivool wrote:
you see NateDawg122 this is the BS that i can't stand. Show me a press release where 7 said he was IN for Southwick and then...
you see NateDawg122 this is the BS that i can't stand. Show me a press release where 7 said he was IN for Southwick and then you can be disappointed when he doesn't show...i never saw a thing about when he was coming back...he may have said 'i hope to be back by...' but that doesn't mean go buy tickets...duh...if you believe twitter to be 'official' then maybe you should stop following and starting reading news publications instead...

why is no one mad that 41, 22, 2, and others aren't riding when they have all been cleared to get back on the bike...7 doesn't seem to get the same courtesy...he was whooping, he crashed, he came back and tried again...wasn't ready, now he is getting ready...seems like the natural part of the process to me...but haters will hate...
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What has your panties in a wad dude?! I said people are getting ticked about the repetitive Stewart stuff REGARDLESS OF TRUTH! I was referring to...
What has your panties in a wad dude?! I said people are getting ticked about the repetitive Stewart stuff REGARDLESS OF TRUTH! I was referring to the constant wrist problems and not returning when planned. I meant that we are all anxious to see him race again and it gets frustrating when that return gets delayed for whatever reason. I wasn't attacking Stewart and I wasn't calling him a liar about his wrist injuries. Do you know why? Because I don't know the extent of his injuries, none of us do. So why don't you just chill before calling me out again? Read more carefully next time.
and again to you i say, when was Southwick the 'planned' return as you say...
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GuyB 8/8/2012 11:45am
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newmann wrote:
When did the sport get so divided? You can thank the AMA and the OEM's for that. Lot of brain dead action required in the killing...
When did the sport get so divided?

You can thank the AMA and the OEM's for that. Lot of brain dead action required in the killing off of the 125 class and the near extinction of a much needed bike. Kids going from a 143 lb. 85 to a 231 lb. 250f sounds to me like The Great Divide.
Gotcha. So it's a problem for them. But this affects YOU how? Smile
NateDawg122 8/8/2012 12:01pm
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and again to you i say, when was Southwick the 'planned' return as you say...
Up until about a day ago.... Now do you want to get back on topic?
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BobbyM 8/8/2012 12:14pm
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lmao...sperm bearded pecker pilots ripping on an injured rider from the comforts of the always comfortable vital mx couch.


get a grip on yer douchbaggery will ya?
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GuyB 8/8/2012 12:21pm
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Up until about a day ago.... Now do you want to get back on topic?
According to who?

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