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The whole 2-stroke argument is so stupid. If you would rather own a 2-stroke, buy a Yamaha or KTM (or Suzuki over here) and ride it! There is no need to try and be a hero posting crap on vital.
It is not old when you ONLY have a choice between a YZ or a KTM, that is BS and sitting back saying that a 4 stroke behemoth is so wonderful is crap to me.
No is going to buy a blown up 4 stroke bike, it is throwing money down a rat hole.
2 stroke bikes too the sport to the level and the 4 stroke bikes have pushed it out of reach of the entry level rider. It is really a sham and people act like spending $1000+ on LOUD obnoxious exhaust is so amazing.
Plus, the fact you have to DOUBLE the displacement of a 4 stroke to even get close to the power of a 2 stroke that has not had any R & D money put in them...
No sir, that is the fact and the truth is not easy for people to stomach after they bought the big heavy terds.
4 strokes are a better bike, but the price of running one is killing the sport.
Joe schmoe blows up a 2 stroke and he fixes it to ride another day. Joe Schmoe blows up a 4 stroke and he fixes it to sell it and move on to a cheaper sport. The local races are dieing a slow death as a bad economy and high 4 stroke bills take its toll.
Here's a tip. Ride whatever you want.
First of all, "the movement" you have referred to is merely a vocal minority of nostalgic old riders somehow bitter that the technology of MX bikes has advanced and evolved from the level it was at during their youth. "The movement" isn't actually a thing.
I think it would be cool if all of the manufacturers had continued to produce and develop their two strokes, but the fact is it wasn't feasible for them to do so. They are each running a business - not a public service - and if two strokes were as in demand as you claim, I can assure you they all would supply them still. As I said, new 2 strokes are available from some manufacturers. If you don't want to buy a 4-stroke, no one is forcing you to - it ain't Russia.
You stated that it is a fact that "two strokes are more fun." I would like to remind you that this is only your opinion, not a universally accepted fact. The irony of your last statement in the above post is quite comical, when you are the one who dragged up an old thread and started bashing 4-strokes.
The noise thing is an issue, but that is about the only valid point you have made. I can explain why your other points are flawed if you would like, but that shouldn't be necessary.
Personally, I enjoy riding both two strokes and four strokes, and accept that they each have their own advantages and disadvantages. I have been riding for 12 years, and only switched from an RM250 to an RMZ450 18 months ago. I swapped because I wanted something different and also more bottom end power - not because anyone forced me to or because I felt it was required to be competitive.
About this post.. it's the worst kind of porn. Staring drooling at somebody you'll only ever meet in your little fantasy world.
At least people like AJ are making something of it. I'd love one of the newer AF two strokes but will never be able to buy one unless I start playing lotto and win. I make do with what I have. Bikes are going to get more and more expensive in time, even the used ones. Availability has a way with pricing in the market. Fewer bikes sold today means higher used prices tomorrow.
Doubt the RMs are coming back here, and certainly not like what is in the previous pictures/videos.
Pit Row
"oh, wouldn't it be cool if so and so rode one in the nats?'"
"oh, they're so much more fun"
uhhh, no. get over it. fun is measured by the person actually having the fun.
a 250 in the nats is a fucking joke.
it doesn't make you a bad person, you're just delusional.
i love 2strokes and i love 4strokes and i've owned plenty of both... so go fuck yourself in advance. i prolly won't read your lame response for a few days until that something inside of me forces me to come back to this site.
i'm seriously embarrassed for the sport of motocross after reading these 4vs2 arguments.
@davidpingree
Suzuki not planning to bring two-strokes back in near future. It was discussed recently but Japan shot it down. #bummer #backtoebay
Ill let these clowns argue the double displacement crap until their ears bleed.
But the fact is, Suzuki isnt making a two stroke for the states. Any time soon.
But there are a few other brands that do. Go buy one of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYjSyCq6QsI
2 and 3 riders per class is quite normal now, tracks have to run a ton classes just to try and make some money. It won't be long and the majority of the local tracks will close up because they can't afford the bills and insurance due to a low turnout of riders on race day or practice day. Its going to get to a point where owners will say its just not worth the hassle. Tracks will close and MX will go the way of BMX, so continue by all means to chime in about how wonderful the 4 strokes are while the sport dies a slow painful death.
Enjoy your 4 stoke while you can because a day is coming where you will have to drive for hours to get to a place where you can ride it. Many of you already do.
So if some 2 stroke competition among the manufactures brings back some affordable bikes to race and maintain then I am all for it. If reasonable prices don't come back, the sport on the local level will be on the endangered species list.
So when things are tight what goes first, that extremely expensive hobby because the normal everyday bills will continue to come in no matter what.
So I say again if some 2 stroke competition between manufacturers can help keep prices lower (purchase and up keep) for budget minded person I am all for it. I can have just as much fun on a 2 stroke or a 4 stroke, Im not trying to qualify for a national. Most people are doing it on the weekends for fun and they don't want to spend the kind of cash that is required or possibly required (blow up) by a 4 stroke.
2 or 4 just make it more affordable or the decline will continue.
Not to mention that you spend 9 k on a new bike and in a few years its extremely hard to sell and worth half what you paid for it. Then if it blows then your really in the hole, and most people these days understand its good financial move to spend that kind of money for a weekend hobby.
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