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Basically the fact is 2 stroke bikes are more fun, can take more abuse and actually have resale value. No is going to buy a blown up 4 stroke bike, it is throwing money down a rat hole. 2 stroke bikes too the sport to the level and the 4 stroke bikes have pushed it out of reach of the...

No it is about stating the facts, why would a new person starting out want a bike that is going to cost them 3 times as much money??? It is not old when you ONLY have a choice between a YZ or a KTM, that is BS and sitting back saying that a 4 stroke behemoth is so wonderful is...

Fact the 450f is a big slow pig and the 250f is a slow heavy terd as well. I could careless if someone likes the big imposter bikes, KTM & Yamaha sell all of the 2 strokes due to demand. The fragile 4 stroke bikes sit on showroom floors, At the end of the day if Suzuki does not import...

I do not see the 2 stroke bikes coming back, I could be wrong but they are 'pipe' dreams. Too many brainwashed people who like spending $8000+ on a piece of junk 4 joke bike. To begin to make the power of a 250 2 stroke they had to almost double the displacement to a 450, then they forget to...

It is funny, clean 2 strokes bikes sell quick. The 4t bikes will be brand new sitting on show room floors for a few years if not more. I have seen brand new 2008 models for sale. NO thanks they can keep the top-heavy, slow tanks.

2 stroke advantage: No flame out or compression levers (plus the hot start bs) No shared motor oil with the clutch/transmission - breaking the oil down... expensive oil filters, and o-rings No cam-chain & tensioner (if the tensioner fails get ready for KABOOM No cam shafts (nice and expensive) No valves, seals, having to replace them and lapping valves... No...

The upper frame rail can be lowered down, it looks like it has a lift kit on it since the expensive nascar motor has to have it so high. This screws up the center of gravity, I cannot stand the 4t bikes tall, off-balance, heavy, LOUD, and EXPENSIVE. I have seen 4t bikes with blowed up engines selling for $300-$400...

The video of the RM125 AFS get rid of the horrid music, what year is the 125 motor from? I would prefer a chrome-moly steel frame myself, anything but the lame 4t bikes geesh. I wonder if you can import from the UK?

Not a war just the facts, they do not sale good, plus the used ones are like bad omens and they sit low in the back, high center of gravity and they are HEAVY. It is basically a single cylinder sport bike motor, just like them they do not last long. Anyways, the only real choice in a 2 stroke...

The way I understand it Honda does NOT want any 2 stroke bikes period. Until this changes and/or people stop buying expensive nascar 4 stroke bikes it will never change. I have 2 RM's a 125 & 250, I will never buy a 4 stroke bike they are tall, top heavy, expensive and OBNOXIOUS LOUD raspy sound, plus they run...