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Fast forward ten years and we now have to flip through different TV channels, TV guides, and the internet to watch 1 round of MX? There is something wrong with that picture.
If core fans are getting frustrated and are having trouble following the action, then what f*cking hope in hell have we got of attracting new fans???
LIVE racing on TV isn't critical to the future of MX. Like somebody else already mentioned delay it and show it on one channel. Isn't Speed channel dedicated to motor sports? Let Fuel show all their UFC crap.
I appreciate what DC has done with the sport, I really do. But having 1 round of MX on 3 different channels/internet is just ridiculous on every level.
If I were DC, I'd hire Kenny Watson! Love him or hate him, the guy is so switched on with current marketing trends.
lol
On a side note, you say you will not spend the extra 5 minutes to find a good download, but you have the time to sit for 5 hours watching live moto. Interesting
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that all you can come up with is dumbass? Like you really have any fuking
clue about how smart or dumb i am?! What makes me laugh is that you do
really think you are some kind of keyboard badass, and that you really know
sooo much about everything on the interweb. And i havent spent but 5 hours
total watching mx this year, bwtween the shotty coverage and working, i dont
have time to worry about having to search for a race that could easily be on
mainstream television, but instead is spread out all over the fuking place.
not to mention u want to call me out for watching 5 hours of moto, but
you spend way more time than that here everyday of your so called superior life
and most of that is putting people down or being a total assclown. Have a Happy
Fathers Day Mr internet Rambone/Nick Burns.
Motocross will continue whether the people in this post complaining watch it or not.
If motocross was really in demand then people would all get direct TV and have the channels, But they don't, they would rather complain. If there was some real effort to having to watch motocross then I could see how people might "give up" but there is no effort, go buy direct tv. If someone is too cheap to do that, then motocross is not in demand. If enough people "give up" then .
Maybe my (joking) assessment of you wasn't as far off as I originally thought. Take it easy, it's only a moto forum.
PS: I own 2 businesses, have 4 kids and 1 grandson, do countless hours of volunteer work in my community. I spend on average about 1/2 hour a day on here. No time for more.
But the dumb stuff Emig says and the addition of Bestwick... wow just watched the majority of the moto with it muted... Bestwick wants it to be a demo derby and Emig thinks that stock suspension is as good as the PC stuff Tickel has.... with that logic why ever send your suspenders to Pro Circuit....???? WOW !!!!
Keep the motos live just change the guys in the booth
you also got to remember channels buy content to attract viewers to their channels. The channels (usually) are commissioned by the service provider. Not sure who that is in the States, but in the UK, Sky TV prop up most channels with multi million, multi year deals. Most channels don't survive on advertising $$ alone like we assume. And Sky (for example) are in the business of selling subscriptions using their attractive portfolios of channels as bait, if you can watch the content you want to see online, no ones going to buy subs. I'm guessing thats the crux of the problem. Also why you can't easily, or legally watch shows like Game of Thrones on the web.
Also think the pirate feed bootleg dudes are being stingy this year! Last year I think we were spoilt with 2-3 bootlegged feeds. There always seemed to be a quality one on Justin.tv.... I'm guessing who ever set those up is too busy for it this year otherwise we'd have 2 x live motos with minimal hassle. Its funny, last year, some of the Justin.tv feeds were higher res and better quality than the official Fuel feeds.
If NBC Sports or Fuel TV had some form of internet broadcast I could easily use a vpn to spoof a US IP address and watch it there, but there is nothing provided to watch the second motos online. Not through hulu, netflicks, alli, nothing.
The most frustrating part is that we get such good coverage of the first motos. Then it's a major clusterfuck and you walk away with a foul taste in your mouth from the experience.
With more and more people dropping extra channels from their cable service (or dropping their cable services altogether) with the growing popularity of services like netflicks. It amazes me that MXSports has chosen to go with an obscure pair of channels that require not only cable or dish services, but extra channel packages on top of that. Outside the US? Good luck Chuck.
TV is going the way of the dinosaurs. Their delivery network is antiquated and it's quickly being replaced by the content owners using web based delivery networks. MXsports and their sponsors own the content and many of the people who they count as their fans are frustrated by the current delivery method, except for the online first half of the races. Seriously, I have hardly heard one complaint about the web broadcast other than it's only half the show. It's the obvious future of broadcasting.
A five dollar per race fee to watch it live provided through netflicks, iTunes, Hulu, Alli, or whatever would be a dream come true. Netflicks can push streaming content for about $.09 per HD movie (plus licensing costs). For a four hour live broadcast in HD you'd be looking at a cost per viewer of less than a quarter through netflicks. The show is already put together, the cameras are already in place. It's just a matter of getting it onto the damn screen. Quit letting the existing dinosaurs dictate the terms and look outside the box for a different way to deliver YOUR content. The demand seems to be there, what's lacking is the easy way for your viewers to watch the show. If Apple could turn a product that people were taking for FREE into the largest retail outlet of music in the world simply because people were willing to pay a small fee for an easier to use service that provided a consistant level of quality, then this years choice of broadcasting partners has proven to be a dismal failure. They've done nothing to provide easier access to the programming and are alienating all your non-US based viewers. Add to that the number of US based viewers who have dropped their cable or dish services and it starts to add up to a lot of frustrated fans.
Here's the thing. You can possibly fix the problem by getting it onto a better TV network with better worldwide coverage for next year. I can't say for sure whether or not I'll still have cable next year. I know for a fact if I do it will be a basic cable only package because the choices I have through other services is a better spend for my money than bucking up to watch advertising saturated television. I already watch 85% of my TV through some form of commercial free internet delivery already. That's a trend that is not going to reverse and I'm certainly not unique in that decision.
I wish I was in MXsport's shoes with a demand for my product that was being unfulfilled. Even if they went to a pay per view online broadcast for non-us viewers I'm sure they would see a fairly significant number of americans who would choose a reasonably priced easy to digest single outlet format over the current fragmented broadcast of today. To be able to do both and possibly gain more control over the broadcasting of their own content is an opportunity they've never had in the past. The time is ripe for content owners to wrestle the control back from the networks of their content. it's not the old days where getting onto a basic cable channel guaranteed a 10+ share of viewers because there was hardly any choice. Theres tons of choices out there and frankly I think that MXSports has made a poor one this year.
Seriously.....you people actually drive cars and hold down jobs but you cant read and use a tv remote? wtf?
Although none of them will ever admit it to you, the problem is that interest in the sport is deflating. The people in charge have done everything possible to make the sport more and more boring over the years and it's losing much of it's audience.
That's why you now have to try to catch the Mowercross races in the middle of the night between re-runs of shows like "Elmer Foglesdorfer and this week's Spinning Reel" and "Do it yourself Worm Farm"... On channels that almost no one's ever heard of...
The days of the sport attracting larger and larger crowds and commanding time on networks like Speed ended pretty quickly after the ruling class idiots decided to make Supercoss and Motocross into a marketing campeighn dedicated completely to selling less capable machinery. When the manufacturer's insisted that all their team riders compete on 4 Strokes the sport got quite a bit more boring from a spectator standpoint.
TBlazier's races are where it's at...
If the evil Youthstream boss can sort it for the gp's. I'm sure DC can do it.
A online PPV Stream like the GPs have is the only way to reach and satisfy all the fans around the globe!
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here is a situation where a person perspective overrides reality. While a persons perspective IS reality to them, its not for the rest of the population of the planet. To you YZ mx is the BOMB. nothing is better, more exciting, there is NO other sport...... 750 million peple in this country, the highest rating I have heard has been 800,000 or so viewers. Now you are saying to yourself, see see, 800,000 people LOVE IT and the rest have yet to discover it! Problem is, do the math. 750,000,000 usa people, 1% is 7,500,000, and thats a good rating, at least at 7.5 share a network wont charge for the air time, will pay for the content (show) and/or will profit share ad revenue. SX, the highest rating, 800,000. thats a .8 share, barely .1% ... a tenth of a percent, barely. NOONE is going to pay any money to have the rights to broadcast SX or MX.
Now, hold on to that while I explain how TV works. A show is made. if its good, it has good ratings. TV PAYS to have that show. Why? because tv makes their money off of advertising! nothing else. Why will NBC pay the cast of Friends 18 million an episode? Because 20 million people are tuning in to watch Friends, and the higher the rating, the more the network can charge per second of advertising time!
So if a decent show rating is a 5 ~ 7 share, 5 million to 7 million tuning in, wtf is NBC, CBS, Speed, Joe's cable access supposed to do with a .8 share?!
And ALL of this is JUST talking about the network, you havent even began to talk about how much it costs to even get the damn race covered! you think its 5 guys with cameras and Weege and Fro? I bet there are at least 20 people, 2 semis of equipement, just to get the show MADE. Here, this is the easy one, get 20 people to each race. No room, no food, just get them there! Get it done on the cheap, 300 a head.... thats 6,000 a week in travel. Now, house them, there is another 3 grand, oh wait, they have bills and do this for a living, so they have to get a pay check..... 100,000, per week, to just cover the race. bet im close. So you are 100 grand in, and you havent even began to get it on a network.
Earlier, you heard me mention a 1 share. At a 1 share, you have reached a number where networks say, ok, our marketing department can do something with it barely. We wont change you 100k a show to air it, or 150k, but we will yada yada.
pay per view stream is the way forward tbh, i took out sky tv which had motors tv, the channel mxgp is on. got netflix in mainly for the kids. got a season pass to mxlife so i can still watch mxgp.
now this isn't a slam on anyone here, but there's alot of people that would say the ama nationals is the no1 mx series in the world right? well if thats the case why can i, a motocross fan for 40 years, watch the best mx races in the world live? when i can watch a second rate series like mxgp online on demand.
i dont want to have to try and watch the second races on some fucking spyware ridden portuguese streaming channel, i'd rather pay to get good coverage.
now before anyone says the rest of the world doesn't matter, it clearly does when it's creating revenue for our beloved sport.
business alliance has brought to the table ? An additional mouth to feed ?
It's pretty damn ridonkulous when they have to issue instructions on " HOW" to watch upcoming broadcasts.
Only assistance I can offer, is, if you live in the United States oF Motocross - buy every channel available, even if you
think you might not watch it - because mx might be on that channel next (Ie - Cartoon Network, Brazilian Travel Channel,
British Isles Sheepherding Network, etc...) Also, buy a DVR and go to more Nationals in person.
Drinking more is not a solution, but it seems fun at the time. Speed-Channel or ESPN, please ?
The streaming for overseas, I can understand that issue but for here, I am thinking this is the best that this niche sport can get. This isn't the NFL or NBA.
the institutional shunning of the smoke-makers. Be off with your logic.
I don't know how you can expect to reach new audiences by switching the motos between channels. Like someone earlier said, it gets confusing if you turn on the TV and like the race you are viewing only to find out it's half of the actual race and you need to flip to another channel (that you may not even have) for an hour to catch the rest of what you are watching.
How can we expect to attract new people to our sport like that?
I'm thankful for how far we've brought new markets into our sport but we can do better than this IMO.
DC is short for 'Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap'. He's sold the sport to a bunch of posey-sniffing environmentalists who are trying to drive us all out so they can take over the land fills and reservation property where we normally ride so they can plant dandelions or something. Those jackholes Emig and Bestwick are nothing more than corporate fuzz bunnies sent here to screw up our english. The broadcast sucked and a number of the faithful were so drunk they forgot to switch channels and now they don't have all the motos recorded on their VHS's. And, none of this would have ever happened if we were still riding 2 strokes.
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